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Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Monstrata
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on July 1, 2017 at 12:28:45 AM

Artist: xi
Title: Glorious Crown
Source: maimai PiNK
Tags: freedom dive rsi haruto logic agent hobbes2 atsuro snownino_ haruto_aizawa
BPM: 225.5
Filesize: 6108kb
Play Time: 01:57
Difficulties Available:
  1. Atsuro's Extra (5.75 stars, 645 notes)
  2. Easy (1.83 stars, 166 notes)
  3. FOUR DIMENSIONS (7.66 stars, 1157 notes)
  4. Haruto's Normal (2.32 stars, 178 notes)
  5. Hobbes2's Insane (4.69 stars, 444 notes)
  6. Logic's Hard (3.46 stars, 317 notes)
  7. NiNo's Extra (6.91 stars, 1004 notes)
Download: xi - Glorious Crown
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
New mp3 January 21.

Hitsounds: Kalibe
Easy: Monstrata
Normal: Haruto
Hard: Logic Agent
Insane: Hobbes2
Extra (5.5 star): Atsuro
Extra2 (6.5 star): SnowNino_
FOUR DIMENSIONS: Monstrata
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Venix
Global Moderator
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Venix
first
Chalwa
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Chalwa
second
SnowNiNo_
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
2,108 posts
Joined April 2013
SnowNiNo_
fk lemme do the extra thx
_Meep_
1,707 posts
Joined April 2014
_Meep_
can I do a hard/hyper? ;o have an almost re-qualified hard gd

edit: cant cuz it went to 3.7 alr >_>
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Mun
469 posts
Joined July 2015
Mun
oh wow you finally decided to upload your first map! #sobrave
Wh1teh
237 posts
Joined May 2013
Wh1teh
Why are all the trills on ring fingers man. You shouldn't start out with the hardest diff if you aren't familiar with the game...
Anyway, if you're interested in a 4K gd I have one http://osump.net/mapsets/578d5f85536740 ... 5979c2be89
But please dude reconsider the way you approach mania, there's no way you'll make a good 7* diff without any experience.

Also feels like you approach mania mapping the same way as std works. You shouldn't leave out notes arbitrarily, like here 00:17:972 - . If there's a logic behind it, then it might be fine, but I don't see many of these sections follow any sensible layering pattern.
Venix
Global Moderator
1,937 posts
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Venix
I think I can make 6,5* :3
yetii
175 posts
Joined August 2015
yetii
boop
just some iirc stufs
01:05 Monstrata: sure xD
01:05 Yetified: thats actually pretty easy
01:05 Monstrata: oh huh
01:06 Yetified: those are jumptrills
01:06 Monstrata: then idk why the map went from 7 stars to 8.95 tbh lol
01:06 Yetified: yea thats what i said before xD
01:06 Yetified: pp pattern
01:06 Monstrata: those jump trills looked nice so i did them. xD
01:06 Monstrata: ah
01:06 Monstrata: lol
01:07 Yetified: but it doesnt really fit the beat tbh
01:09 Yetified: the first one atleast
01:09 Monstrata: ah
01:09 Monstrata: okay i can understand the first one tbh
01:10 Monstrata: 01:47:972 (107972|1,107972|0,107972|2) - is the same as the ones on the right
01:10 Monstrata: so the drums that land on white/red ticks don't get any special emphasis
01:10 Monstrata: in comparison to blue tick
01:10 Monstrata: i was thinking of doing ladders or something for the left hand
01:10 Monstrata: for 01:47:906 -
01:10 Monstrata: that measure
01:11 Yetified: yea
01:11 Monstrata: so theres some difference in playing between left/right, with the chords emphasizing the drums
01:11 Monstrata: would that work?
01:12 Yetified: it might work if done properly
01:12 Yetified: u could also do a chordstreasm maybe but that doesnt really fit too well into the rest of the song
01:12 Yetified: chordstream*
01:12 Monstrata: hmm
01:13 Monstrata: yea ive been spamming ladders and stuff tbh lol maybe i shojld try other patterns too haha
01:15 Yetified: u could do somthing like the ending of this map
01:15 *Yetified is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/948777 xi - Ascension to Heaven [Elysium]]
01:15 Yetified: it sounds really similair
01:16 Yetified: u can take a llok on how he patterns streams aswell
01:16 Monstrata: hmm ill check it out
01:16 Yetified: i think the way he maps is basicly what you try to do but perfected already
01:18 Monstrata: ic ic xD yea ill ask jinjin later when i see him around haha
01:18 Yetified: yea he's the king of 7k mapping :P
01:19 Yetified: ill stick to getting more obvious stuff out of the way ^^
01:19 Yetified: like this jack 01:10:301 (70301|4,70301|2,70301|0,70389|3,70389|6,70389|0) -
01:20 Yetified: wot
01:20 Yetified: how did it copy that again
01:20 Yetified: 00:57:019 (57019|1) - THIS
01:21 Yetified: 01:43:316 (103316|6,103383|6) - whew
01:23 Monstrata: ah
01:23 Monstrata: lol
01:23 Monstrata: deleted
01:24 Yetified: also 01:43:316 (103316|6,103383|6) - here you here like two drup beats but they are not emphasized at all
01:24 Yetified: drum*
01:24 Yetified: might be tricky to fit them in tho
01:25 Yetified: because
01:25 Yetified: 01:43:316 (103316|6,103383|6) -
01:25 Yetified: here 00:24:358 (24358|0,24757|4,24757|5,24757|2,24890|0,24890|4,24890|6) -
01:25 Yetified: fuck my copy paaste is so shit
01:25 Yetified: attempt 2:
01:26 Yetified: 00:22:629 (22629|6,22695|1,22695|5,22762|0,22762|4) - here you didnt put any emphasis on the drums to keep the stair going
01:26 Monstrata: yea
01:26 Yetified: 00:24:358 (24358|0,24757|2,24757|4,24757|5,24890|4,24890|6,24890|0) - but here you did
01:26 Monstrata: ah ic
01:26 Yetified: i guess thats kinda for transition reasoning
01:27 Yetified: but those thing are better to be the same
01:27 Monstrata: yeai see wha tyou mea
01:27 Monstrata: added a chord there
01:28 Yetified: also before 00:20:101 (20101|0,20633|2,20633|6,20633|1) - you hear like a bursty sound, but no notes
01:29 Yetified: not sure what the best way is to map it, but there should be somthingthere im pretty sure
01:30 Yetified: 00:29:680 (29680|3,29746|1,29813|0,29813|4,29879|1,29879|5,29946|6,29946|2,30012|5,30012|0,30079|4,30079|1,30145|2,30145|5,30212|1,30212|0,30212|4,30212|6) - i dont really understand why you did this :s
01:33 Yetified: [https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7078485 somthing like this might sound better but patterns are just an example]
01:34 Monstrata: yea idk
01:34 Monstrata: i think that parts unnecessarily dense tbh
01:34 Monstrata: xD
01:34 Yetified: yea those stairs dont really have a reason to be there
01:36 Monstrata: oh
01:36 Monstrata: i like those 1/8
01:36 Yetified: u can use em quite a bit troughout this map
01:36 Yetified: plenty of 'burst' sounds
01:37 Yetified: but dont overdo it xD
01:37 Monstrata: hmm
01:37 Monstrata: but i should use them as stairs right?
01:37 Yetified: yea
01:37 Monstrata: okay xD
01:37 Yetified: unless u want to break some fingers
01:38 Yetified: well there might be other ways to do em but i don't really know specifically
01:38 Yetified: mr jinjin might
01:38 Monstrata: ye
01:38 Monstrata: xD
01:41 Yetified: btw
01:41 Yetified: about the brackets stuff
01:41 Yetified: i think its okay to have [13] first and 2 after
01:41 Yetified: but avoid
01:41 Yetified: 2 first and [13] second
01:41 Yetified: thats really nasty stuff
01:44 Monstrata: ah
01:44 Monstrata: ok ok
01:44 Monstrata: ty for the help btw :D
01:44 Monstrata: uh post this log in thread for kds if you want lol
01:44 Monstrata: i gotta run and do something now, but thx agin xD
01:45 Yetified: um sure :), no prob btw, i had an exam today and thisputs my mind at ease kinda xD
01:45 Yetified: so im glad to be of some help
dionzz99
677 posts
Joined April 2013
dionzz99
rip i was gonna ask for applying my already made 4k mania diff for this song (which is 5,76 star)
and rip i don't have any ranked beatmaps....
rip.
Atsuro
1,290 posts
Joined January 2013
Atsuro
Can i make an extra?
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Topic Starter
Monstrata
@Atsuro - you fine with 5.5 star? i'll get nino to do 6.5 star extra

@ people complaining about mania, this is a wip lol
Logic Agent
483 posts
Joined April 2015
Logic Agent
y'know he definitely said it's a work in progress. how about instead of being so aggressive toward someone with inexperience, you take the time to explain your thoughts in a neutral way. just because he's a good mapper in standard doesn't mean he has nothing to learn or should immediately be a great mania mapper.

if anything you should be glad that someone like Monstrata is trying to branch out into something new, but instead you want to attack him because he's dipped his toes into something unfamiliar. it's not even remotely closed to being ready for rank yet (the spread, that is) so calm down.

or whatever
cyprianz5
249 posts
Joined February 2013
cyprianz5
i think in mania its better to put some single "long" sliders on less intensive part instead of making break there
Halogen-
Former osu!mania 4K Champion: 2015
574 posts
Joined September 2009
Halogen-

rozenryza wrote:

@Logic Agent, my point is this isn't like standard where a two start player can push out great beatmaps. 7k charting always requires years of experience playing. ALWAYS. monstrata will not be an exception, if he wants this ranked it'll turn into another fucked up collab ranked because of who he is and how inexperienced the osu community is with 7k charting.

this isn't hostility, it's trying to tell Monstrata he can't meme his way up the mania ranks unless he takes two years off osu to play o2jam or bms and learns how a chart should play. every revision this chart has feels like nothing more than a thin coat of paint on an already ruined wall.

edit: his "see you in the ranks" attitude makes me angry, too. he knows this will be ranked, and i do too. maniera got ranked, i'm pretty sure this will too. i am not lying when i say this is the worst map i have ever played. get ready to hear MJ and jakads sigh as they log into Ripple because crap like this gets ranked while great stuff goes unnoticed?

Ripple is popular among mania users because efforts are put into dumps like this while completed mapsets sit in queue till they rot in the graveyard or the creator abandons the game after two years of waiting.
i'd just like to come in here and say that i've been playing VSRGs for a very long time, and i know that my 7K experience is lacking for certain, but i also know that there are a lot of players that can legitimately come in and serve as consultants/mediums of assistance if i were to make a difficult 7k chart. saying that you need to "take two years off" to play the game is absolutely fucking ridiculous. you should be ashamed of making a comment that closed-minded.

with that being said: Monstrata - I do hope that you take the time to consult higher-end 7K players and listen to their opinions (and justifications for why things should be done a certain way). as someone who is drifting into making content in other modes as well, I definitely understand the desire to want to get a feel for something different. We ran into each other when you were piecing this map together, and exchanged a few words/terminologies - i feel like with some guidance, you could legitimately get somewhere with this. I'll also say: don't automatically assume you'll get to rank with the current state of your map as well: "see you in the ranked section" could certainly come across as pompous.

I do hope you have fun in this process of trying to make a mania map, though.
Wh1teh
237 posts
Joined May 2013
Wh1teh
Just want to say that even with help it was a questionable idea to start off at 7-9*. It's really easy to go from challenging to awkward to bullshit in mania.
Think about it this way: you have no experience in mania charting, you create a diff that will most likely have to be recharted. Because you don't have any experience in mania charting how can you judge mods? or guest diffs? Like honestly, if you started at 4* you would have way better chances at understanding what's actually going on.

Also this

Monstrata wrote:

Open for GD's while supplies last. Please have at least 3 ranked maps if you want to map something 4 stars+
seems super hypocritical. You have 0 ranked mania maps.

On top of that you're greatly limiting the amount of good and diverse GDs. Because as it turns out, there aren't that many ranked maps compared to std, mania is still quite new and the ranking criteria are really strict.
Good amount of charters come from different games where stuff like hitsounds or full spread of diffs don't really matter, so they just never bother going for ranked. This doesn't mean that their charts are bad or that they don't have experience.
Like, what you're basically saying is that even people like Blocko or Evening couldn't submit a GD because they only have 1 ranked mapset. That is just ridiculous.
Monstrata
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Monstrata
Yea, if you can't play this diff you're just too weak.

No actually though, stop looking at this difficulty like its a final product. I'm not looking for mods. This is a diff to practice and figure out how standard conventions translate to mania.

If you actually want to be helpful, tell me what's good about this diff so I have a better baseline for what concepts to keep.

See you in the ranked section, nonetheless :D.
Wh1teh
237 posts
Joined May 2013
Wh1teh
mind addressing my comment on this?

Monstrata wrote:

Open for GD's while supplies last. Please have at least 3 ranked maps if you want to map something 4 stars+
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Monstrata
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Monstrata
Fixed~
Izzywing
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2016
Izzywing
aw fuck i only have 4 ranked maps and 3 GDS ))::
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Monstrata
You can still dream in your dreams though! :D.

(No actually though, that was clearly something I wrote for standard, since I get a lot of gd requests when I submit sets)
Adiopulse
147 posts
Joined May 2014
Adiopulse
I may be the worst one here at rhythm games, but I know for a fact that this map ain't ganna fly, and the GD requirements aren't necessary at all. There are 1* and below that are better constructed than this.
Logic Agent
483 posts
Joined April 2015
Logic Agent

Adiopulse wrote:

I may be the worst one here at rhythm games, but I know for a fact that this map ain't ganna fly, and the GD requirements aren't necessary at all. There are 1* and below that are better constructed than this.
Well that should be fairly easy, to construct a 1* map better than a 7* map, if you think about it...
Chaos
osu! Alumni
244 posts
Joined May 2013
Chaos
I'm actually a little bewildered that I even have to post about this right now, but please keep your comments constructive. Remember to follow the Code of Conduct when addressing any issues instead of randomly bashing.
_Meep_
1,707 posts
Joined April 2014
_Meep_
y u people be looking at this map like its completed and for rank instantly lol,monstrata already said it was experimental XD does everything the big people do be so dramatic?
edit: chaos u literally wrote the msg like a few seconds before me LOL coincidence
Dea ex machina
535 posts
Joined January 2014
Dea ex machina
When will Monstrata map ctb
Jole
233 posts
Joined June 2013
Jole

Monstrata wrote:

see you in the ranked section :D
Friendly reminder that being in the ranked section of mania isn't something to be proud of.

Regardless, I do recommend not only taking positive feedback that compliments your map since it's mostly negative things that need attention. While some of the feedback can be seen as negative, it's still useful if you're willing to pay attention to the mentioned points. In other words, get off your throne and admit your mistakes instead of ignoring them. I'll also point out what Chaos said about being constructive applies to both sides. Your attitude doesn't seem to follow that mindset, although it seems as if that was triggered from replies, and right now you're making a very bad first impression for the new people you're reaching out to. I don't know who you are but you appear as feeling prestigious in your replies
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Monstrata
Positive feedback is what will improve a mapper the most. It may not improve the map, but that's secondary anyways. I started mapping standard in January 2015, and got my first mapset ranked in March, and that was back when I had no musical theory/knowledge, nor was I a part of the community/able to get advice and help easily. How do you improve as a mapper? Figure out what's good and whats not. Figuring out why your map is bad will do nothing to improve your mapping, it will just improve your map.

Figuring out what's wrong doesn't mean learning what's right. However, learning what's right allows you to figure out what's wrong.




That said, see you in ranked!
Jole
233 posts
Joined June 2013
Jole

Monstrata wrote:

Positive feedback is what will improve a mapper the most. It may not improve the map, but that's secondary anyways. I started mapping standard in January 2015, and got my first mapset ranked in March, and that was back when I had no musical theory/knowledge, nor was I a part of the community/able to get advice and help easily. How do you improve as a mapper? Figure out what's good and whats not. Figuring out why your map is bad will do nothing to improve your mapping, it will just improve your map.

Figuring out what's wrong doesn't mean learning what's right. However, learning what's right allows you to figure out what's wrong.
You're puncturing your own argument here by saying "How do you improve as a mapper? Figure out what's good and whats not."

Without a reason why a certain thing is good or bad, it's not much use for future mapping. Figuring out why a map is good or bad is, unlike what you say, a way to improve your mapping as a whole. What matters is how you absorb feedback and remember it. I, too, am experienced with mapping and I can tell you what has helped me the most was people pointing out patterns that were not intentionally harder than others and general inconsistency issues. Not the 'good' things you speak of.

Most of the time, positive feedback is "This is fun" or "This is good". You're more likely to get detailed feedback when it's negative since people are more likely to point out bad patterns than good patterns (Although, depending on the individual, it can end up being insulting to a certain degree. One must learn how to separate personal attacks and constructive feedback - this thread is a testament to that).
Logic Agent
483 posts
Joined April 2015
Logic Agent
...you might need an advanced... or something

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also can we like please pause the drama until the sets complete, or at least until this is actually more than like 4 days old
Todestrieb
305 posts
Joined February 2014
Todestrieb
I won't post a detailled mod, but I hope you can look at these "suggestions" since they are kinda generale guidelines and they are recurring in your map

Symmetry/triangles
Avoid them, they are played badly and makes dumb anchors.
Anchors during long streams
The blue notes are called anchors and plays really badly during really long section, avoid them, It's more important to have fluid streams than repetitive and "good looking" patterns like zigzags.
Overmapping
You are putting heavy chords for only the kick, It's far too much overmapped compared to the previous section (also look at these anchors on the right holy shit).
Last edited by Todestrieb , edited 7 times in total.
Wh1teh
237 posts
Joined May 2013
Wh1teh
Monstrata, people have to actually play your map when you rank it, so you should care.
In mania there aren't a lot of ranked maps, so when you rank a hard map that means that everyone have to play it to stay on the leaderboards. There are no alternatives, you can't just pm tillerino or w/e. You play the hardest ranked maps which there are only handful of and that's it.
Monstrata
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
4,642 posts
Joined May 2013
Topic Starter
Monstrata
Thanks Todestrieb, finally some useful feedback :D. Yea, i'm remapping those end sections and focusing on simpler chords and avoiding anchors for the sake of multiple stairs lol.
iYiyo
1,107 posts
Joined January 2014
iYiyo

Monstrata wrote:

Open for GD's while supplies last. Please have at least 5 ranked maps and 3 GD"s if you want to dream of joining this amazing set.
Am I dreaming? @.@
Also it was weird to map an Easy with 225bpm. It's like a beginner diff but still < 1.5* xD

1.57 length 1.57 sr 8-)
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312,248,33405,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,112,33937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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232,80,38726,5,0,0:0:0:0:
360,144,39259,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,283,39791,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,347,40323,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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232,64,43516,1,0,0:0:0:0:
216,200,44048,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,136,44580,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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272,224,54691,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,96,55223,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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248,176,94602,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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Raediaufar
879 posts
Joined November 2014
Raediaufar
is this a meme?

I don't recommend for new mania mapper to make something like this. Mania is so different than std, Anchor like this 00:28:083 (28083|4,28261|4,28438|4,28615|4,28793|4,28970|4,29148|4,29325|4,29502|4,29680|4) - and 00:35:533 (35533|6,35666|6,35800|6,35933|6,36066|6,36199|6) - is not appropriate.

And also the way you map here is weird. You change from stream mapping to LN mapping which the way you doing it not make sense at all.

Thing you must know that mapping mania is mostly about consistency,. The usage of chord and LN here is weird. Example on chord is you put different chord on the same sound, so like you put three notes on kick in some part, but you put four notes on other part. And your LN is not consistent too here, if you decide to follow a certain long sound with LN, the you must follow the another same long sound with LN as well.

And also many things that broken here, like weird jacks, weird anchors, so much unbalanced patterns. But mostly your problem here is about consistency and the pattern is so uncomfortable.

Some parts that so bad that you must change in this map
00:35:533 (35533|6,35666|6,35800|6,35933|6,36066|6,36199|6) - this weird anchor

00:40:788 (40788|0,40855|1,41055|0,41121|1,41321|0,41387|1,41587|0,41653|1,41853|0,41919|0) - and 00:41:919 (41919|6,42119|5,42185|6,42385|5,42451|6,42651|5) - a very uncomortable pattern

00:51:498 (51498|0,51498|4,51498|6,51498|1,51498|5,51498|2,51564|4,51564|2) - this

00:53:627 (53627|0,53760|0,53893|0,54026|0,54159|0,54292|0,54425|0) - this anchor

00:55:689 (55689|4,55755|5,55755|4,55822|5) - avoid this weird jack

01:03:205 (63205|1,63205|4,63272|1,63272|4) - same as above

01:05:267 (65267|2,65334|2) - this jack

01:20:500 (80500|4,80633|4,80766|4,80899|4,81032|4,81165|4,81298|4,81431|4) - anchor

01:39:525 (99525|2,99658|2,99791|2,99924|2,100057|2,100190|2,100323|2,100456|2,100589|2,100722|2,100855|2,100988|2,101121|2,101254|2,101387|2,101520|2,101653|2) - wow this is a very long anchor

01:45:777 (105777|4,105844|5,105910|4,105977|5,106043|4,106110|5,106176|4,106243|5,106310|4,106376|5,106443|4,106509|5,106576|4,106642|5,106709|4,106775|5,106842|4,106908|5) - this very long, nonsense trills

01:46:908 (106908|1,106975|2,107041|1,107108|2,107174|1,107241|2,107307|1,107374|2,107440|1,107507|2,107573|1,107640|2,107706|1,107773|2,107839|1) - this trills too

01:47:906 - you can see those weird three notes 01:47:906 (107906|6,107906|5,107906|4) - and it's jacking

01:48:970 - in this one, is the three notes jack and also weird trills

01:50:035 - same as above

01:52:163 - no comment for this lol. This part shouldn't be this hard. Too much overmapping :/ Especially this jack 01:53:161 (113161|2,113161|0,113161|1,113227|2,113227|1,113227|0) - it hurts

01:57:418 (117418|2,117418|5,117485|2,117485|5) - jacks

how to change it? idk because the map is already broken at start :/ you need to remap it again

and make sure to check this
Hinsvar
osu! Alumni
3,804 posts
Joined December 2011
Hinsvar
still can't figure out if Monstrata's being sarcastic

good luck anyway
[Emiria]
1,010 posts
Joined November 2012
[Emiria]
for mania practice makes perfect
good luck ~
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
6,842 posts
Joined March 2010
OnosakiHito
At a certain point I stop reading. You guys should all chill for a moment since it looks like you direct your posts towards future responses from the project leader which didn't even happen yet. Previous cases may indicate a rather defensive response by project leader, but that doesn't mean to make such a big fuss over a beatmap which is still in the WIP state. In a certain way one may understand people's concern considering past events, but that doesn't give you the right to go with such a brachial violence against a mapper. Instead, try to wait till the project reached the pending state (or give some hints during WIP state) and then give feedback about the beatmap. It's the first approach of the mapper. It is very likely that a remap may be needed. But then say so when modding it.

For anything else, I direct everyone to the Code of Conduct, which can be also seen as warning. See it as such. Please stay Civil. Taiko best modoooo.
Aleppie
61 posts
Joined March 2011
Aleppie
I was pretty interested when you said that you were going to map in mania. But I feel like you picked the wrong song to start with. This song is too hard for a starter to map. You should try to make something easier first. Take ZZHBOY as an example. He started mapping mania with some easy songs and a lot of people including me likes his maps. So don't stop mapping in mania but instead start at the bottom first. I'm sure you can be a great mania mapper in the future. Cheers!
Myxo
osu! Alumni
3,103 posts
Joined December 2012
Myxo
Is it just me or is the mp3 atrocious?
Anyway, good luck and lol @ those people who caused drama for no reason xD
riktoi
711 posts
Joined September 2014
riktoi

Desperate-kun wrote:

Is it just me or is the mp3 atrocious?
Anyway, good luck and lol @ those people who caused drama for no reason xD
I'm pretty sure this is the "mastered" version on the Evolved Chronicles xi album. It sounds barely better than the hand recorded one from a maimai cab which is sad
Akasha-
Nomination Assessment Team
4,418 posts
Joined April 2013
Akasha-

riktoi wrote:

Desperate-kun wrote:

Is it just me or is the mp3 atrocious?
Anyway, good luck and lol @ those people who caused drama for no reason xD
I'm pretty sure this is the "mastered" version on the Evolved Chronicles xi album. It sounds barely better than the hand recorded one from a maimai cab which is sad
hmm, Glorious Crown was a rearrange version of FREEDOM DiVE↓
It was only a short ver and used by maimai PiNK (SEGA)
After then, xi made a full ver of Glorious Crown and it's for sale in his newest album, Evolved Chronicles

However, there is no good quality mp3 for this short version yet, but coming with real high quality full ver is still worth enough to get satisfied
And yes, our current mp3s are just really in poor quality, can't help, it's from youtube convert :P
Halogen-
Former osu!mania 4K Champion: 2015
574 posts
Joined September 2009
Halogen-
would just like to say that this is bordering on caustic now:


like, i get that you don't want to hear this kind of stuff, but it kinda irritates me that staff is telling users to stop and monstrata's still kinda reciprocating it; i'll also remind people that i was one of the people condoning him trying to experiment and get a feel for it, but i don't think this kind of thing is acceptable, just saying.
Todestrieb
305 posts
Joined February 2014
Todestrieb
High-quality mp3 of the long version, maybe try to edit it?
AncuL
1,114 posts
Joined March 2013
AncuL
anyways i think i'm interested into joining this project. i'll take the insane mania diff if you don't care about the amount of my ranked maps and gds
Anxient
1,573 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

hmm, Glorious Crown was a rearrange version of FREEDOM DiVE↓
It was only a short ver and used by maimai PiNK (SEGA)
After then, xi made a full ver of Glorious Crown and it's for sale in his newest album, Evolved Chronicles

However, there is no good quality mp3 for this short version yet, but coming with real high quality full ver is still worth enough to get satisfied
And yes, our current mp3s are just really in poor quality, can't help, it's from youtube convert :P
does maimai ever release the music that shows up in their games?
Akasha-
Nomination Assessment Team
4,418 posts
Joined April 2013
Akasha-

Anxient wrote:

does maimai ever release the music that shows up in their games?
I got no clues, not a fan of washing machine games and it's from SEGA so I'm clueless
But I think they do

P.s: what's wrong with this thread? Everytime I post something It came up to error page, after refresh it back to editing board again (but the post still uploaded, people mistaken it haven't posted yet and came up with double, triple, quad posts
Anxient
1,573 posts
Joined June 2014
Anxient

Kuo Kyoka wrote:

Anxient wrote:

does maimai ever release the music that shows up in their games?
I got no clues, not a fan of washing machine games and it's from SEGA so I'm clueless
But I think they do

P.s: what's wrong with this thread? Everytime I post something It came up to error page, after refresh it back to editing board again (but the post still uploaded, people mistaken it haven't posted yet and came up with double, triple, quad posts
#dramahotspot

anyway, i really hope sega releases the HQ version of Glorious Crown, or else kroytz wont ever forgive me
Akasha-
Nomination Assessment Team
4,418 posts
Joined April 2013
Akasha-
Hmm, they do release OST after all. But still I don't know the store page or some kind of leeching page to it, rip
juankristal
osu! Alumni
1,408 posts
Joined August 2010
juankristal
As it was mentioned multiple times, you guys HAVE to follow the Code of Conduct and despite the warnings from the staff I saw you arent. So I hope you guys understand what you are doing and not do it again.

This is just another (and the last) reminder for you to follow it, right now I will just clean this thread a little bit and do whatever is needed.


Will reopen the thread as soon as I am done with that.

Edit: Alright, I am done with this.

This also goes for you Monstrata, I understand you can feel in whatever way about all the "hate" that you are reciving but you have to admit that you are looking for it. First of all, I would ask you to delete your 9K difficulty or at least change it in a way that doesnt tilt all this people in an instant. If you are looking for fights and problems (is it against the mania community in general or just against this particular people) then you are doing it super wrong and its a clear violation of the Code of Conduct previously mentioned.

With that being said to you, I want to also mention this to all the people who is in a deliberated hate train against Monstrata. Even tho I also think the map is bad (and I will call that it is bad intentionally but memes and triangles aside) the WIP/Pending category is there to help the mapper to improve the map not to destroy both map and motivation. So if you are just going to post useless things such as "omg, this is so bad please go back to STD" you are also doing it wrong. Detailed mods if you want to help or just dont post if you just want to cause problems. If the maps hits ranked at this state or hits qualified then I would understand people complaining about it (as it is, part of the ranking process to survive 1 week in the qualified section) but for now it isnt. It can very well just be a test.

And to close this up, as I see this map is actually going for ranked, I suggest you BNs who will check this map to talk with multiple experienced people from the other gamemode (is it STD or mania) because, as you can see, it looks to be quite difficult to know whats going on if you arent experienced in both gamemodes.

Good luck I guess, and feel free to call me if this becomes a mess once again or if you ever feel like I can help giving you some tips to improve yourself as a mania mapper, as you asked.
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