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Discussion 36: What sort of medals would you like to see?

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Ephemeral
With the recent release of a new set of Hush-Hush achievements, we noted a pretty varied response in how people approached achievements/medals in general.

Hush-Hush medals are designed to be a mixture of a riddle and actual gameplay. Sometimes figuring out the map/difficulty the medal mentions is enough, sometimes you will need to figure out more than just that, and other times you may not even be able to find out how to get the medal until someone else stumbles upon it accidentally. We understand that these medals don't interest everyone, and that there is some concern about some medals being too difficult to be attainable by most people.

Progression medals are far simpler, and currently exist in most modes up to 8 stars. We don't see many players feasibly being able to play at or above an 8 star level in most modes for the near future, so we've not got any plans to expand them any further than that for now.

Gimmick medals often fall in the Hush-Hush category (most of the earlier ones fall under this moniker) and involve achieving outrageous or not-commonly attained statistics in a given game, like finishing a map with 13x 100s, and 37x 300s.

Going forward, what would you like to see more of? How would you like to see these medals revealed?

Please note that currently, medals can only be awarded based on scores only. This means that things like cursor-dancing, key-combinations and other in-client stuff cannot be used to award users medals.
PakaChan
x SS medals, x ranked score medals would be nice. D rank FC for ctb?
Bara-
Maybe some mapping/modding related ones? Though those are mostly web-based, and only accessible to a select few
Endaris
Can I get a shitposting medal?
Or "provoking forum user"?
*runs*

Personally I don't deem Hush-Hush as that interesting since you're now free to share the accurate way of obtaining them - the riddlepart is basically rip.
I also think that the userpage is more or less satiated with different kind of medals already.
There are 84 different medals for standard mode if I didn't fail counting. Almost half of them has very low requirements in terms of skill which means that new players probably drown in achievements when starting off. They're almost guaranteed to gain one on their first play that is not the tutorial for example.

One thing I'd also like to note is that you won't get any meaningful reward nor will you get recognised for collecting medals. It is not very attractive to actually go and catch'em all at this point. A medalcount-ranking might make it more interesting. There have to be more creative ways to make this happening but eh...i'm not that creative.

One annual medal I'd consider interesting is a mappack-medal for the OWC Finals mappack (and respectively TWC/CWC/MWC) where you have to pass all maps from it with the intended mods except for two of them (pretending you have two bans lol) with some title that tells that you're going to become a world champ soon(tm) or something in that direction.
Lacrimosa
An interesting idea would be to have to pass specific maps (including specific difficulties) with a specific order to unlock a medal. They will have to guess which maps they will have to pass, judging by the title of the medal. For example, "Big brother's tragic death". In this case, they will have to pass any difficulty of this map and then pass the "Tragic Death Extra" difficulty of this map. Note that they will have to pass the second map directly after passing the first one, meaning that they should not submit any other scores on other maps in between. Not the greatest example, but you get the drift. :P
Bara-
^^
We already had one for 'Don't let the bunny distract you', so having it for more maps it nice
Topic Starter
Ephemeral

Nikosbks wrote:

An interesting idea would be to have to pass specific maps (including specific difficulties) with a specific order to unlock a medal. They will have to guess which maps they will have to pass, judging by the title of the medal. For example, "Big brother's tragic death". In this case, they will have to pass any difficulty of this map and then pass the "Tragic Death Extra" difficulty of this map. Note that they will have to pass the second map directly after passing the first one, meaning that they should not submit any other scores on other maps in between. Not the greatest example, but you get the drift. :P
Having "order" based achievements is on the cards, but not currently possible due to how our backend is set up. It is something we're looking into, though.
Zozimoto
Medals Based On PP, For Example: Reach 450 PP. Reach 1000 PP. Or Get 20 PP+ From A Map. Get 50+ PP From A Map.
DeletedUser_6709840
I like Bara- 's idea of the mapping and modding achievements the most because that in itself takes a lot of effort and also shows your devotion to the community.

If you can get medals for the amount of PP your score or just for doing things to get the score you have, why not for the number of kudosu you earn as well? Or the number of ranked maps you have?
Zozimoto

RoseusJaeger wrote:

If you can get medals for the amount of PP your score or just for doing things to get the score you have, why not for the number of kudosu you earn as well? Or the number of ranked maps you have?
I Want Something Like That Too.
Capuccino
I think we need a special medal for whoever can FC NOMA - Brain Power
Bunnrei
how about a medal for getting a skill-related medal (those pass a 1*, 2*, etc ones) for all modes (all-mode players are cool!)
Zain Sugieres
Medals for achieving pp scores (100, 200, 300, 400) or something.
CookieBite
srs agree with Bara-'s idea.

maybe kudosu earning medal stuff or ranked mapset amount? this will be cool
Seijiro
I have a feeling that such medals will just worsen the overall quality of mods since people will rush their work to get more kudosu instead of actually helping the mapper.
I'm personally against them just for that reason.

Same goes for ranked maps.

If ever, set a medal for your first ranked map (since that's usually a big deal) but not for a certain amount of maps.
Jukkii
id like medals for achieving something in a specific map. for instance, passing dopamine (highest diff ofc) could give a medal. this could lead to some interesting riddles with song names and difficulty names. and maybe something like "FC all ranked maps of x artist" or something.
and i think an achievement for first ranked map sounds good.
Yuudachi-kun
More "dedication" medals from playcount/hitcount in every mode
B1rd
Well I was gonna say an achievement for 200k...
Stefan


cough


Generally more pack-related medals. Might mix with Hush-Hush, so they won't be as obvious as the current one.
abraker
Off the top of my head:

Medals for how many players watched your replays,
Medal for coming back after being inactive for a long time
Medals for how many kudos earned
Medals for number of maps ranked
Medal for speed ranking
Medals for number of players played a maper's ranked map
Medals for reaching a certain number of views on an osu! livestream

Basically, extend out not to only cover medals involving playing the game, but being a part of the community too
Endaris

abraker wrote:

Basically, extend out not to only cover medals involving playing the game, but being a part of the community too
Tbh, I don't want mindless achievementfarmers flooding the community with nothing in mind but getting medals instead of meaningfully contributing. It's already bad enough to have people like me around here.
abraker

Endaris wrote:

abraker wrote:

Basically, extend out not to only cover medals involving playing the game, but being a part of the community too
Tbh, I don't want mindless achievementfarmers flooding the community with nothing in mind but getting medals instead of meaningfully contributing. It's already bad enough to have people like me around here.
Well I suggested some that deal with meaningful contribution. As for the others, I fail to see how that is an issue.
Bara-
Do you really think people will spam everything/everyone just to get the achievements?
Maybe a few people will, but I'm sure lost of the achievement hunters won't bother about these
Endaris
That's not how things will be perceived though.
None knows how many people actually read the stickies in Beatmap Projects but the beatmap request threads popping up there almost every other day are a nuisance regardless of how many people actually do it right.
I can already see people coming to Gameplay & Rankings and asking people if they could watch their fullmod 1* diff replay so they can get the medal. Maybe not as frequently as the "how2stream" and "how2gitgud" threads but often enough.
Soon enough we will have replay4replay trades and then I have to ask what the point is.
Stefan

Endaris wrote:

Tbh, I don't want mindless achievementfarmers flooding the community with nothing in mind but getting medals instead of meaningfully contributing. It's already bad enough to have people like me around here.
I think that differs medals from badges:



To contribute in a game and in a community are two different things. Yes, the community is part of the game but it can exclude things such as the ranking and gameplay-related aspects. If you contribute in a game, it means you spend the time to achieve something or reach a level which is exceptionally. While contributing in the community will be most likely gifted with badges and/or titles.

related to abraker: I get the idea of yours but some of these things (and other you haven't named) are very likely impossible for some users. While being fame for example isn't necessarily a thing you have to work for, skill-related things such as beating a 6* beatmap requires more effort and time to reach your goal. Medals (achievements, whatever) should be a confirmation you did it, means you beat <insert map>, you reached <insert playcout/rank>, you played <insert requirement>, etc. and that's more worth to honor.
_DT3
Ok, Bara-'s idea sounds great (not only because I am a mapper myself)
This might be something to motivate people to map (although it won't be a big difference) and that would be great for the game
ZenPie
Choke Medal
Topic Starter
Ephemeral

ZenPie wrote:

Choke Medal
This exists already!
Stefan

Ephemeral wrote:

ZenPie wrote:

Choke Medal
This exists already!
wow

such spoiler


much leak
Mafumafu
MAPPING
MODDING
Sieg
for silence count and something like veteran criminal for people who survived restricted mode 😅
Caput Mortuum
SS count, first place count, SH/SSH count, Last place in a map, silence count, post count, 666 combo, total hours, miss count, beatmap count, ranked beatmap count, dq'd beatmap medal, etc
Lacrimosa
I would also like to see medals rewarded to organizers of well hosted a.k.a. officially supported events/tournaments by the osu! staff. I know this is not related to Hush-Hush medals, but I though this could be a chance to bring up this subject, since the organizers of such events put a lot of work and effort into it, and they get nothing in return. A medal/achievement would be more than enough, simply to give a little recognition for their effort. In addition, I think this would also encourage people to organize more events, which is something really positive for our community.


Sieg wrote:

for silence count and something like veteran criminal for people who survived restricted mode 😅
This would actually encourage people to get silenced, which is not good. But I assume you are joking. :P
Ender Lain
Maybe:
- 10, 25, 50 times of Retry/Failed in a maps
- got D rank and not FC @ Taiko and CTB mode
- 100, 400, 500, 1000 times appear on top 50 global ranking maps

. . . . i think that's all
Johnny Gotti
1 for top 1,000, top 500, 100, 50, 10 each. If they lose their rank, let them keep the achievement.
DeletedUser_6709840

Sieg wrote:

for silence count and something like veteran criminal for people who survived restricted mode 😅
I laughed.
Seijiro
Well... we have mod introduction medals, which is cool, but what about mod master medals?
What I had in mind was something like... <n> top scores with HD gives you the HD master medal and such. Obviously, it would need an actual skill so just doing a bunch of 1* won't be enough.
Possible option would be to get an FC on each star rating as the current skill medals (mod + skill medals, basically), but it may be impossible to get some of them, even for the osu!gods.


Another idea I had in mind was about specific users medals. Recently a medal for 11t got added so I thought that maybe some other worthy users can get a specific medal like that: few examples I can think of right now is "play all Andrea/osuplayer111's maps" medal (or in general any mapper with a quite big library of mapped sets, like DJPop and such) or let's just pick someone from the hall of fame and make riddles on them.


While writing this I also thought about something like "country" medals. Basically, it would require playing at least x maps of a certain nationality.
While they aren't much it can still work well for some countries.
If we put together more of these medals we can get an "All around the world" medal even. Idk if it is possible to detect such details from the beatmap id tho.
Grim Rapper
a medal for achieving such unbelievable performance with "astounding" accuracy will be nice (read: MingAcc)

and medal when you're doing certain things in multiplayer is nice too (like when you're doing this for example XD)

also, you can add some very complicated medal that the only way to achieve it, you must FC certain song (or difficulty) in order to unlock the medal (just like an easter egg)

more than that, you can add some silly medal that can only be achieved by change your name to certain names (presumably some video games character reference, not some famoos player :/)

Addition: progressive medal about Total Hits (from rohulk's video)
DeletedUser_7520443
ik there are medals for reaching certain ranks, but i would like if there were medals for individual modes because i'm easily getting the reach 50k one by just playing a few hours on ctb when i was hoping to reach it when playing std :c
TheLordKiwi
Why not adding medals about precision.Exemple:
-Having an unstable rate under 75
-FC a map with more 100s than 300s on a map ( hi MinG3012 :) )
Then, why not some about spinning.Exemple
-Having a max rpm above 400
-Winning 20000 score with spinners bonus
Medals about mapping like some says (first beatmap ranked,...)
Medals about pp like some says too (50pp+ play, 2000pp in total,...)
More medals about beatmaps packs like Stefan says
CornSoda
So as most of you know, lots of people make levels and they get rated, but theres no reward apart from seeing the rankings, so I was thinking, how about a achievement for reciveing a ranked/approved level? This is really just a suggestion, I know I wont get it but for those who put so much time into a level and got a ranking and bragging rights and that's it, they should have a achievement to show it. :lol:

This got took from the game support page, but I suppose most mods are gonna say "this is the same as ___'s post! delete!"
I just want to support the fact I want a achievement for 1 ranked and approved map, and no more.
Remyria

Grim Rapper wrote:

some silly medal that can only be achieved by change your name to certain names (presumably some video games character reference, not some famoos player :/)
That will never happen. A changename costs money, it's stupid to add achievements you have to pay for.
_DT3

CornSoda wrote:

So as most of you know, lots of people make levels and they get rated, but theres no reward apart from seeing the rankings, so I was thinking, how about a achievement for reciveing a ranked/approved level? This is really just a suggestion, I know I wont get it but for those who put so much time into a level and got a ranking and bragging rights and that's it, they should have a achievement to show it. :lol:

This got took from the game support page, but I suppose most mods are gonna say "this is the same as ___'s post! delete!"
I just want to support the fact I want a achievement for 1 ranked and approved map, and no more.
The problem with this though people then just strive to make ranked maps without actually wanting to contribute to the community
Also, there are things like 'Elite Mapper' titles for people who can map well (winning contests) so there isn't really a reason to do that (although I would like it ;) )
abraker
So what becomes of this thread?
t/107625/
Jellyblob
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Caput Mortuum

abraker wrote:

So what becomes of this thread?
t/107625/
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This one has ephemeral though so go here
Infinitstart

Capuccino wrote:

I think we need a special medal for whoever can FC NOMA - Brain Power
I absolutely agree with you! And called the `O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U-JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A-E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA`medal or the `nervous` medal :) :) :)
Edgar_Figaro
I would really love to see some of the existing achievements divided by mode. I think I already posted this in the general achievements request thread but as it seems like this has replaced that I’ll instead go and post it here.

Make top 50k, Top 10k, Top 5k, and Top 1k achievements separated by gamemode
Make achievement for getting top 1k in 2, 3, & 4 modes
Make combo achievements for Taiko, CTB, and Mania
Make 4th dedication achievement that actually takes a while for Taiko, CTB, & Mania (I actually got the final dedication for most of these modes prior to hitting 5k needed for jack of all trades, meanwhile Standard needs 10x of jack of all trades requirement to complete)
Pankaka
baras
Miterosan
* Start osu! with a speacial parameter, e.g. --hushhush
* Circumvent the chat filter by using leet e.g kappa -> k4pp4
* Play a map with a with the old slidertype
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