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dj TAKA (remixed by Yokota Shokai) - Colors -Y Co. Eurobeat

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Samah
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, 12 October 2011 at 11:40:50 PM

Artist: dj TAKA (remixed by Yokota Shokai)
Title: Colors -Y&Co. Eurobeat Remix-
Source: beatmania IIDX
Tags: iidx8 konami bemani ddr
BPM: 155
Filesize: 3627kb
Play Time: 02:02
Difficulties Available:
  1. Another (5 stars, 395 notes)
  2. Beginner (3 stars, 140 notes)
  3. Hyper (4.54 stars, 224 notes)
  4. Normal (4.02 stars, 191 notes)
Download: dj TAKA (remixed by Yokota Shokai) - Colors -Y&Co. Eurobeat Remix-
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Let's go for number four! :)
Thanks Ayeen for the hitcircles, and XepherX3 for storyboard.

Last full submit: 11/10/04
11/10/12: osuplayer111's mod.
11/10/05: Lybydose's timing.
11/10/04: lolcubes's mod, full submit.
11/09/29: RJ's mod.
11/09/28: AcceleratorRUS's mod.
11/08/27: Fixed ampersand in title, full submit.
11/08/22: Aleks719's mod.
11/06/26: Ayeen's mod.
11/06/25: KuraiPettan's mod, full submit.
11/05/25: Zelos's mod.
11/04/27: Mystica's mod.
11/04/23: eldnl's and nicktoons's mods.
11/04/16: Fight69's mod.
11/04/14: akrolsmir's mod.
11/04/13: MDuh's mod, changed SB.
11/04/11: YGOkid8's mod.
11/04/09: Jarby's mod.
11/04/07: Ekaru's mod.
11/04/02: DJPop's mod.
11/04/02: Ayeen's mod.
11/04/01: Fully mapped all difficulties and added storyboard.
11/03/29: Removed ampersand from title.
11/03/28: JauiPlaY's mod (full submit).
Ayeen_old
Star....
And I've said in irc already: change the mp3 bitrate lower ;)
JauiPlaY
hihi~
now let's see...

[General]
nice song~
and i think you should mapping till the end, very very seriously.

[Beginner]
nicely playable but is it really a beginner diff? imo it's too hard for beginners XD
00:18:461(3) - new combo.
00:47:880(1) - the spinner is too short, try some other things here.
01:29:686(5) - new combo.
01:35:300(1) - remove new combo.
01:35:880(1) - i think this spinner do not needs any vocal. try to reduce the sound volume?

[Normal]
00:17:106(x) - add a note.
00:33:945(6) - new combo.
00:40:138(1) - remove new combo.
01:31:041(1) - the spinner does not fits the lyric...

[Hyper]
00:18:267(3) - try to overlay the next note?
00:22:138(4) - ^
00:27:751(4,5) - don't like this jumpoh well...
00:32:977(2) - try to overlay the next note?
00:34:526(5) - ^

[Another]
00:19:622(2) - add clap
00:19:816(x) - add a note with clap
01:04:912(1) - quite noisy...
01:20:396 - 01:23:299 - maybe use some jump here? also you can make the hitsound very light at first, but more and more heavy with the combo.

great song and great map.
so
star~
Topic Starter
Samah

JauiPlaY wrote:

hihi~
now let's see...
SPOILER
[General]
nice song~
and i think you should mapping till the end, very very seriously.
I dunno, I think it ends at a good spot. If I change my mind later I'll fill it in, but argh effort! >_<

[Beginner]
nicely playable but is it really a beginner diff? imo it's too hard for beginners XD
I think it's fine for beginners.
00:18:461(3) - new combo.
I'm trying to keep the combos mostly with the music.
00:47:880(1) - the spinner is too short, try some other things here.
Yeah this was rather annoying. It's probably too short for Beginner, but I couldn't really move it or lengthen it without it messing up the flow. I've just removed it.
01:29:686(5) - new combo.
Done.
01:35:300(1) - remove new combo.
Yeah that was an accident, thanks.
01:35:880(1) - i think this spinner do not needs any vocal. try to reduce the sound volume?
I've lowered the hitsound for that a bit.

[Normal]
00:17:106(x) - add a note.
I dun wanna... :(
00:33:945(6) - new combo.
Done.
00:40:138(1) - remove new combo.
Done.
01:31:041(1) - the spinner does not fits the lyric...
I've extended the spinner a bit and lowered the hitsound.

[Hyper]
00:18:267(3) - try to overlay the next note?
00:22:138(4) - ^
Uhh... I don't get you :/
00:27:751(4,5) - don't like this jumpoh well...
I do...
00:32:977(2) - try to overlay the next note?
00:34:526(5) - ^
Still don't get you.

[Another]
00:19:622(2) - add clap
I prefer the whistle.
00:19:816(x) - add a note with clap
Don't wanna... >_>
01:04:912(1) - quite noisy...
I removed some claps.
01:20:396 - 01:23:299 - maybe use some jump here? also you can make the hitsound very light at first, but more and more heavy with the combo.
Nice idea, but I think I like it as it is.
great song and great map.
so
star~
Thanks. :)
rrtyui
good><
star :D
XepherX3
very very niice...maybe map hyper and another full lenght

special kiai effect storyboard if u like

Download: Kiai effect.zip
Topic Starter
Samah

XepherX3 wrote:

very very niice...maybe map hyper and another full lenght

special kiai effect storyboard if u like

[attachment=0:24e8a]Kiai effect.zip[/attachment:24e8a]
Wow, thanks for kudosu star. :)
That's two suggestions for an extended map, so I'll do that tonight.
Also the storyboard you supplied is just a blank one... >_>
rrtyui
It forgot to put it.
XepherX3
hmm

oh well place this in the .osb

osb code
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Ayeen_old
Ok as per request in IRC:

Here is some Ayeen's mod:

Beginner:
All seem good except silence on 02:03:654

Normal:
AR+2
00:38:396 Delete (7)
02:03:654 Make it silence here
Funny thing is i think your normal is much harder than hyper, maybe that because of much circles here compared to your hyper.

Hyper:
AR+2
01:02:396 (1,2,3,4,5) make it more curvy (Nazi nazi mod :) )
01:03:945 (1,2,3,4,5) ^
01:54:461 (1,2,3,4) Hitsound on blue tick is odd/ not rythmic with song. Either make the blue tick silence or make circles on white and red ticks. For me, 8 circles with finish on every red ticks here is sound better. just suggestion here.
02:03:654 make it silence here.

Another:
Hitsound suggestion from me
00:13:816 (1) Delete clap
00:14:009 (2,3,4,5,6,7) add finish on (3,4,6,7)
00:15:751 (1) add finish
00:15:945 (2,3,4,5,6,7) add finish on (2,4,5,7)
00:17:299 (3) remove clap, add finish
00:17:686 (6) ^
00:20:396 (3) ^
00:20:783 (6) ^
02:03:654 make it silence here
The rest should just leave it.

Mostly suggestion :)

Good luck in ranking the 3rd map :)
Topic Starter
Samah

Ayeen wrote:

Ok as per request in IRC:

Here is some Ayeen's mod:
SPOILER
Beginner:
All seem good except silence on 02:03:654
kk

Normal:
AR+2
+1
00:38:396 Delete (7)
No :(
02:03:654 Make it silence here
Yep
Funny thing is i think your normal is much harder than hyper, maybe that because of much circles here compared to your hyper.
Hyper has more jumps.

Hyper:
AR+2
Yep
01:02:396 (1,2,3,4,5) make it more curvy (Nazi nazi mod :) )
01:03:945 (1,2,3,4,5) ^
Done
01:54:461 (1,2,3,4) Hitsound on blue tick is odd/ not rythmic with song. Either make the blue tick silence or make circles on white and red ticks. For me, 8 circles with finish on every red ticks here is sound better. just suggestion here.
I made the bounce and end on each slider quieter.
02:03:654 make it silence here.
Yep

Another:
Hitsound suggestion from me
00:13:816 (1) Delete clap
Hmm... ok.
00:14:009 (2,3,4,5,6,7) add finish on (3,4,6,7)
00:15:751 (1) add finish
00:15:945 (2,3,4,5,6,7) add finish on (2,4,5,7)
I don't want that many finishes.
00:17:299 (3) remove clap, add finish
Ok
00:17:686 (6) ^
00:20:396 (3) ^
00:20:783 (6) ^
I'll leave these ones I think.
02:03:654 make it silence here
Yep
The rest should just leave it.
Mostly suggestion :)

Good luck in ranking the 3rd map :)
Thanks! :D
DJPop
3.08 star is too high for the easiest diff :o

~Beginner~
00:47:880 - add note (?)

~Normal~
Fine.

~Hyper~
00:27:751 (4) OR (5) - new combo
00:36:848 (3) - ^
01:40:332 (5) - ^

~Another~
Volume levels are different from other diffs.
01:12:654 (7) - new combo
01:12:848 (1) - remove new combo


+Star
Topic Starter
Samah

DJPop wrote:

3.08 star is too high for the easiest diff :o
I was hoping no-one would notice... ;) Fixed.

~Beginner~
00:47:880 - add note (?)
Added note and slider.

~Normal~
Fine.

~Hyper~
00:27:751 (4) OR (5) - new combo
Done.
00:36:848 (3) - ^
Done.
01:40:332 (5) - ^
Done, and I also changed the first chorus's version of it.

~Another~
Volume levels are different from other diffs.
I might leave this, because it sounds like a mess if I match the volumes with the other diffs.
01:12:654 (7) - new combo
Done.
01:12:848 (1) - remove new combo
Done.

+Star
Ania chan_old
I ilke :)
jnkinsu
star- :)
wcx19911123
HI
Here is my m4m of http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27700
All suggestions

[Beginner]
Ah..I think it's an Easy but not Beginner
00:40:138 (2,3,4,5) - noisy
00:56:977 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - things on red line is too hard for a beginner I think
01:09:364 (4,5,1,2) - ^
01:46:525 (4,5,1,2,3) - ^
01:50:977 (1,2,3) - change to slider
02:02:203 (1) - end at 02:05:299 ?

[Normal]
00:47:880 (1) - short
02:02:203 (1) - end at 02:05:299 ?

[Hyper]
AR+1
02:02:203 (1) - end at 02:05:299 ?

[Another]
AR+1
02:02:396 (1) - end at 02:05:299 ?

Good map~
Star~
Topic Starter
Samah

wcx19911123 wrote:

HI
Here is my m4m of http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27700
All suggestions
SPOILER
[Beginner]
Ah..I think it's an Easy but not Beginner
For my maps, generally Beginner = Easy, Normal = Normal, Hyper = Hard, Another = Insane.
00:40:138 (2,3,4,5) - noisy
I think it fits.
00:56:977 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - things on red line is too hard for a beginner I think
No. :(
01:09:364 (4,5,1,2) - ^
^
01:46:525 (4,5,1,2,3) - ^
^
01:50:977 (1,2,3) - change to slider
^
02:02:203 (1) - end at 02:05:299 ?
I want it to end on the bar.

To be honest the reason I said no to the Beginner changes is because when I simplified things the star rating went UP (over 3). I have no idea how osu! calculates that, but it's fail. :/

[Normal]
00:47:880 (1) - short
It's fine for normal.
02:02:203 (1) - end at 02:05:299 ?
See above.

[Hyper]
AR+1
02:02:203 (1) - end at 02:05:299 ?
See above.

[Another]
AR+1
02:02:396 (1) - end at 02:05:299 ?
See above.
Good map~
Star~
Thanks anyway, kudosu for putting in a decent effort. ;)
Ekaru
Not doing Another because it's such a high level of difficulty that I feel I can't mod it properly. Anyways...

All of these suggestions I recommend you try out, and then just revert back if you don't like how it plays. Pretty much all of these are "feel" things, really.

Hyper:

The main problem here is having too many sliders that disrupt the map's flow. The input of a "click" is different from that of a "hold and release", if that makes sense. Do remember that when I'm referring to splitting up a slider, I mean to place hit circles timeline-wise where the sliders start and end; you'll often have to make new patterns.

00:13:816 (1,2,3) - Try making this a combo of five hit circles. The sliders feel weird. Place them at the sliders' start and end points.
00:17:299 (1) - Try making this two hit circles, where the sliders start and end.
00:20:396 (1) - This would also feel better as two hit circles instead of a slider.
00:23:880 (2,3,4,5) - I would just get rid of the sliders here period, and make these hit circles. Wherever there's currently a slider start, end, or repeat, put a hit circle there (with a different pattern of course).
00:36:267 (2) - Try splitting this slider up, also. It feels better to me.
00:39:557 (4,5) - I would move these away from (2,3). I feel movement between 3 and 4, and no movement just feels weird.
00:45:945 (3) - Again, try making it into 2 hit circles.
01:08:396 (1,2) - As usual, try splitting these sliders up into hit circles where these sliders start and end.
01:13:429 (3,4,5,6) - I would add another hit circle on the red tick between 3 and 4 and make this a stream. Just me, though.
01:20:396 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This feels cramped to me. That's just me, though.
01:45:171 (1,2,3,4,5) - I feel that these should all be hit circles.
01:47:687 (1) - Feels weird, probably just me, though.

Good map overall, though. I just think it would play better.

Normal:

I would space the 1/2s out so they're not overlapping like that. Just me, though. Only thing I can find is a few 1/2s that just play too fast for this difficulty.

00:14:783 (3) - Consider deleting that. Feels too fast here IMO.
00:16:138 (5,6,7,8) - Consider deleting this and putting a 1-beat-long repeat slider 1/2 before the (5).
00:25:428 (5,6) - Consider making this a stack of just 3 1/2 notes.
00:38:590 (1) - This slider looks funny. :P
01:27:557 (3) - Feels too fast IMO, try deleting it.
01:29:106 (3) - ^

Pretty good map. Flowed better than Hard IMO.

Beginner:

I'd tap that. ~

Good map set overall. Star. I feel Hyper could flow better, but that's about all I could really find. Mod4Mod this was, BTW. *posts in your Mod Queue now*
Topic Starter
Samah

Ekaru wrote:

SPOILER
Not doing Another because it's such a high level of difficulty that I feel I can't mod it properly. Anyways...
Awwww cmon it's not that hard... D:

All of these suggestions I recommend you try out, and then just revert back if you don't like how it plays. Pretty much all of these are "feel" things, really.

Hyper:

The main problem here is having too many sliders that disrupt the map's flow. The input of a "click" is different from that of a "hold and release", if that makes sense. Do remember that when I'm referring to splitting up a slider, I mean to place hit circles timeline-wise where the sliders start and end; you'll often have to make new patterns.
I like sliders. :(

00:13:816 (1,2,3) - Try making this a combo of five hit circles. The sliders feel weird. Place them at the sliders' start and end points.
Nope.
00:17:299 (1) - Try making this two hit circles, where the sliders start and end.
^
00:20:396 (1) - This would also feel better as two hit circles instead of a slider.
^
00:23:880 (2,3,4,5) - I would just get rid of the sliders here period, and make these hit circles. Wherever there's currently a slider start, end, or repeat, put a hit circle there (with a different pattern of course).
^
00:36:267 (2) - Try splitting this slider up, also. It feels better to me.
^
00:39:557 (4,5) - I would move these away from (2,3). I feel movement between 3 and 4, and no movement just feels weird.
^
00:45:945 (3) - Again, try making it into 2 hit circles.
^
01:08:396 (1,2) - As usual, try splitting these sliders up into hit circles where these sliders start and end.
^
01:13:429 (3,4,5,6) - I would add another hit circle on the red tick between 3 and 4 and make this a stream. Just me, though.
Added that circle and rearranged a bit, but not as a stream.
01:20:396 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This feels cramped to me. That's just me, though.
That's because it's 0.75x.
01:45:171 (1,2,3,4,5) - I feel that these should all be hit circles.
You just hate sliders! D:
01:47:687 (1) - Feels weird, probably just me, though.
Maybe, but it matches the vocals.

Good map overall, though. I just think it would play better.

Normal:

I would space the 1/2s out so they're not overlapping like that. Just me, though. Only thing I can find is a few 1/2s that just play too fast for this difficulty.

00:14:783 (3) - Consider deleting that. Feels too fast here IMO.
I think it's fine.
00:16:138 (5,6,7,8) - Consider deleting this and putting a 1-beat-long repeat slider 1/2 before the (5).
Nah.
00:25:428 (5,6) - Consider making this a stack of just 3 1/2 notes.
Hmm... I tried it but it messes up the spacing with the next combo and I don't want to move that.
00:38:590 (1) - This slider looks funny. :P
If by funny you mean AWESOME. I can't really think of anything more symmetric to do with it, so it'll be ok I think.
01:27:557 (3) - Feels too fast IMO, try deleting it.
I like it.
01:29:106 (3) - ^
^

Pretty good map. Flowed better than Hard IMO.

Beginner:

I'd tap that. ~

Good map set overall. Star. I feel Hyper could flow better, but that's about all I could really find. Mod4Mod this was, BTW. *posts in your Mod Queue now*
I'm a stickler for symmetry (in certain areas), so if a change would mess it up, I'll skip it.
Thanks. :D
Jarby
01:14:203 - Logically, kiai time should end here instead of at 01:05:299. Seems to do this on difficulties but Another anyway. As for the second point, it should restart at 01:51:364 and end at 02:03:751; the storyboard should also continue until that point and not fade out until then.

Normal:

Very similar to Hyper in terms of object density and difficulty. In fact, it only has 8 less objects than Hyper. I highly recommend you tone this down a bit by removing some stuff. That will give the set as a whole more variety and appeal to a wider audience.

Hyper:

00:15:170 (3) - Move one space to the right on grid level 3 to make the spacing more consistent and less unnecessarily overlappy.
00:25:622 (5) - Move one space down on grid level for more correct symmetry.
00:27:751 (1,2) - I think this jump is too cruel for this difficulty. I'd switch the start and end points around on 2 to combat this.
00:36:267 (2,1) - Same jump problem. Actually, it's more like a recurring theme. I'd still make these styles of jumps weaker though.

Another:

Hitsounds on this difficulty are a lot quieter than the others. I think they're more suitable like this, so change the others to match. This includes the final spinner, don't make it quiet!

01:04:912 (1) - I suggest changing this to a 1/4 kick slider instead because I don't think it makes much sense for this to be 1/8.
01:12:848 (2) - Increase the spacing (moving down three spaces on grid level 3 is adequate) to avoid confusion with this.
01:26:590 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I think it would be a good idea to add whistles to the ends of all of these sliders to complement the changed percussion. This would also make sense at 01:01:816 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) actually.
01:56:783 (3,4) - AAAA UNSYMMETRICAL. So move 4 one space to the right on grid level 3.
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