Mega NRG Man - Back on the Rocks [Taiko|Osu]

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Haganenno
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 12:17:29 AM

Artist: Mega NRG Man
Title: Back on the Rocks
Source: Initial D
Tags: super eurobeat anime english xChorse squirrelpascals Monarch j1nx1337 xtrem3x Shinsekai-
BPM: 156
Filesize: 9745kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. 3x's Oni (3.45 stars, 404 notes)
  2. Extra Rocks! (5.41 stars, 397 notes)
  3. Jinx's Insane Rocks! (4.43 stars, 334 notes)
  4. Monarch's Easy Rocks! (1.39 stars, 84 notes)
  5. Sekai's Muzukashii (2.71 stars, 286 notes)
  6. squirrelp's Normal Rocks! (2.15 stars, 134 notes)
  7. xChorse's Hard Rocks! (3.46 stars, 261 notes)


Download: Mega NRG Man - Back on the Rocks
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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SPEEDING TICKET INTENSIFIES
Spork Lover
Sup guys, mod from discord lol :^)

Color coding:
Unrankable if unchanged
Normal Suggestion/Comment
Strong Suggestion

General


Add the metadata confirmation in the description during the modding process please so experienced modders don't go like "ermahgerd le tittle n' artest be wrong lelølllel" (This especially applies to the source)

For hitsounds, there are a lot of options, I'll send you my entire hitsounds folder and you can choose from there (we'll talk about it there xd)
Also, please remove the hitsounds from the song folder since you're not using them atm.

The spinner can increase in volume as you go (From like 40% to 80%)

Monarch's Easy


Firstly, the NC'ing is insanely excessive. This will make the HP react super weird, and for a newbie, they will have a way harder time than they should with reading the map as a whole. Please NC every 4th measure instead of every measure lol (I'm throwing this into unrankable, 'cause BN's will not let you get away with this lmfao)

Secondly, when you do low SV/high DS like this, it becomes really cramped. I know that low SV is good and all that sometimes, but keep in mind that 1,3x spacing means that the distance is 1,3 times faster than the SV. The reason why most easy diffs are 0,9-1,1 is because newbies don't know how to do jumps or "high" spacing properly, making it misleading for them. It also makes overlaps like (as an example, there are a lot more) 00:58:373 (2,1,2,1) , 01:02:219 (1,2,1) and 01:16:065 (1,1) - happen because of this. You limit your possibilities basically. You need the map to be as friendly as possible to the player. Therefore, I'd highly advice to reduce the DS and increase the SV, or rework every part that does overlaps like these. (Something like 0,9 SV and 1x DS or 0,8 SV and 1,1 DS would work pretty well for this song)

^ Because I mentioned these things, I'm not going to go more in-depth, since it would basically mean reworking the whole map. A tip would be to avoid those overlaps, but yeah.. xd I hope I'm making sense of this.

Other things:
00:17:701 - The green inherited point is unnecessary, might as well remove it xd

squirrelp's Normal


00:27:219 (2,3) - audibility wise, this is inconsistent with 00:20:681 (1,2) - (Remove the sliderstart on 00:27:219 (2) - basically and add a note instead xd)
01:22:988 (2,3,1) - Wouldn't your mapping style benefit more from making it somewhat straight like earlier? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052551
01:30:681 (2,3,4) - I think a single tap + a slider feels better here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052571
01:33:565 (2) - Tbh this slider doesn't really fit what the song follows (especially applies to the reverse arrow xd)

xChorse's Hard


The first kiai seems quite inconsistent. As an example, in the first half of the kiai, you add a triple on the 1st, 2nd and 4th measure beginning, but in the second part of the kiai, you add one on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd. It's honestly a little hard to predict what audible beats come next, which shouldn't honestly be the case for a hard difficulty. So basically, I'd advice you to make similar sections audibly consistent (A triple can be a kickslider and note obviously etc, but ignoring them is a bad idea) If this was hard to understand (I worded myself badly I feel like lol), just tell me xd

Consistency thingy applies to 00:54:142 (5,1) - and 00:50:681 (3,4) - as well. (Just removing 1 in 54:142 would help a lot)

01:22:027 - to 01:22:219 - should contain a triple because of 01:15:873 (5,6) -

01:27:988 (7) - and 01:24:911 (7) - are inconsistent, since you made 01:23:373 (7) - and 01:26:450 (7) - the same

^ I hope you're seeing where I'm going with this xd There should generally be more consistency in your difficulty, especially in the low SV sections to make stuff a lot easier to read/predict. As reference, the new Epiphany (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/223303) has been DQ'd twice for the same reason which was a lack of consistency in the rhythm.

Shiguma's Insane


To start with, I'm gonna refer to the suggestions I gave to xChorse. There's a few rhythmic inconsistencies here too (not as many as in his diff tho)

00:17:701 - Ru unrankableru timingu pointu (desu) 。゜(`Д´)゜。
00:20:681 (1,2,3) - Gonna throw out that this is nice (as a "normal" pattern, this is aesthetically pleasing)
00:22:219 (1,2,3) - I'd make this consistent with 00:28:373 (1,2,3) - instead, since the 1/4 sliders are a little excessive spacing-wise and will make the flow a lot better tbh xd
00:29:142 (4,5) - The first slider could have lower SV than the second so there's a cooler transition (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052871)
00:40:296 (1,2,1,2) - The stream being linear makes this transition a lot harder to aim consistently than the others.
00:43:565 (1) - Doing it like this makes it easier to read: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052945
00:44:911 (3,4,1) - Aesthetics m8 :^) (2,3 transition will also be a lot better) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052950
00:45:681 (2) - A triple-ish sound doesn't really work here imo xd
00:46:642 (1,2,3) - Another part that makes a lot of sense with the music, I salute you dear sir ^^ (If you wanna make it even more fitting you could do a tiny descend in SV, but it's not necessary)
00:47:988 (2,3) - spacing's a little awkward compared to 1,2 before it. xd also, switch NC on 00:47:796 (1,3) -.
00:52:219 (3,4) - Another triple that doesn't really fit the music too well (If you added a flow related triple like this, you'd have to make it consistent, so remove it to make it a little more simple for starters ^^ (Just do 2 single taps here)
00:54:527 (1,2,3) - Spacing is a little excessive imo xd
00:55:681 (1,3) - VERY important NC switch, this NC switch would mean not choking the entire next pattern lol. Also 00:56:065 (3) this should be a single tap: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053001 <--- This is the entire pattern (I reworked some spacing a bit and also removed the nc on 00:56:257 (2) -
00:57:604 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Your idea is cool, but the song's emphasis is 4-note based (aka squares)
00:59:142 (1,2,3,4) - This has good flow :)
01:07:604 (5,6) - I'd do two slider here, the start of the reverse slider isn't that strong imo.
01:08:373 (1,2) - Random idea you can use if you want: osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053037 The flow is a little better this way.
01:17:604 (4,1) - Switch NC
01:17:988 (1,2,3) - Look at the spacing difference, and now listen to the intensity difference. (Make the big spacing a bit lower, and make the 2,3 spacing a fair bit higher.
01:20:488 - The vocals are strong here, so you could start the slider here.
01:21:450 (1,2) - Moving 2 a bit down and left flows a lot better: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053078
01:24:431 (6,7,1,2) - Make the spacing a bit more consistent and healthy: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053096
01:33:373 (3) - Move this note to this spot to make the 1,2 sliders later a bit easier (because they have odd timing): osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053099
01:34:142 (1,2) - This should be single taps tbh :)

Extra


Keep in mind that the diff is quite overdone for what the music offers (the spacing's too large in the jump parts), so you'll probably end up reducing the star rating to like 5.1* ish (The earlier you do this the better) I'll mention some things in the suggestions about it.
Also, Shiguma told me that you were striving for a more "old style" approach. As it is now, some patterns follow that idea, but others just seem randomly off, so I'll suggest some things regarding those.

Consistency wise there are some issues similar to xChorse's diff. As an example, 00:28:566 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is the same in the song as 00:22:027 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , but your map is saying that it's something else. You need to make similar sections similar rhythmically too in your map! I won't go too in detail here, but I hope I make some sense with this (If you have questions about it, ask me in-game!) :) (This also applies to the 2nd riff btw)

00:17:701 (1,1) - Start the spinner on the 1/4's tick, it will play super cramped on the 1/16 tick lol xd (I would also end the spinner on 00:20:297 - )
00:22:989 (7,1) - The part plays better like this (and looks better imo, but that's up for you to decide lol xd) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053295
00:24:527 (6,7,8,9) - I relocated the jumps so it's aesthetically pleasing instead (Keep in mind that 9 is like a "6th note" of the stream aesthetically): https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053336
00:29:624 (7,8) - Remove 7 and move 8 to a spot where a jump would be allowed (something like this?: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053413 It's very unpolished but you get the point lol xd)
00:32:123 and 00:32:796 - silence the slider ends plz <3
00:33:566 (6,7,8,9) - Why do you do doubles here when you don't at 00:35:104 (1,2,3,4,5) - ? This is the consistency thing I'm talking about. Please make it consistent ^^
00:39:143 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I'm not a fan of the spacing nor the angle of this part (This is where the "it's overdone" part comes in)
00:41:258 (1,2,1,2) - intensity wise, why is the spacing different on those two doubles? Is there any specific reason for this? (This also applies to the similar doubles in the other kiai!)
00:44:912 (1,2) - Doing a ctrl+H makes this flow like 10x better. (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053439)
00:50:874 (3,4) - eh spacing is too high for this jump, you REALLY have to force your cursor lmfao
00:51:258 (6,1) - This is as intense as 3,4 in the music, but there's no jump whatsoever xd Please give this a good bunch

01:00:681 (1,2,3) - This is inconsistent with 00:57:604 (1,2,3) -
01:13:565 (3,4,5) - This is anti-flow, which you don't use in your map beforehand. (the 3,4 jump is way too large for how your cursor moves)
01:16:643 (4) - the slider should start here, the vocals are very strong xd (And make 01:10:104 (2,3) - consistent with this part please ;_;)
01:28:374 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,1,2) - It's very obvious that this is just an invert of the first one lol - At least make the patterns different lol xd (This applies to the entirety of the 2nd riff)

Generally, if you do small flow breaks (like long sliders), make sure you do it in similar sections in the same spot as well! This is basically what I'm trying to get at. There's a lot more inconsistencies, but I mentioned the most important ones here. Also, some of the jumps seem very excessive for what the song offers like I said before, so nerfing a few of the jumps, so it's not a pure jump training map would help as well xd.

Anyway, I wish you guys luck - If you have any questions, just message me in-game or something and we'll sort some stuff out xd
xChorse

Spork Lover wrote:

Sup guys, mod from discord lol :^)

xChorse's Hard


The first kiai seems quite inconsistent. As an example, in the first half of the kiai, you add a triple on the 1st, 2nd and 4th measure beginning, but in the second part of the kiai, you add one on the 1st, 2nd and 3rd. It's honestly a little hard to predict what audible beats come next, which shouldn't honestly be the case for a hard difficulty. So basically, I'd advice you to make similar sections audibly consistent (A triple can be a kickslider and note obviously etc, but ignoring them is a bad idea) If this was hard to understand (I worded myself badly I feel like lol), just tell me xd

Consistency thingy applies to 00:54:142 (5,1) - and 00:50:681 (3,4) - as well. (Just removing 1 in 54:142 would help a lot) Nah they're fine since they are audibly similar

01:22:027 - to 01:22:219 - should contain a triple because of 01:15:873 (5,6) - There's no sound on 01:22:123 - so I just removed the triple on 01:15:969 - for consistency

01:27:988 (7) - and 01:24:911 (7) - are inconsistent, since you made 01:23:373 (7) - and 01:26:450 (7) - the same I'm following the synths and this is the only synth sound that's on a 1/4 here 01:25:007 -

^ I hope you're seeing where I'm going with this xd There should generally be more consistency in your difficulty, especially in the low SV sections to make stuff a lot easier to read/predict. As reference, the new Epiphany (https://osu.ppy.sh/s/223303) has been DQ'd twice for the same reason which was a lack of consistency in the rhythm.
thank bro

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Title:Back on the Rocks
TitleUnicode:Back on the Rocks
Artist:Mega NRG Man
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Creator:Haganenno
Version:xChorse's Hard Rocks!
Source:イニシャル・ディー
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squirrelpascals

Spork Lover wrote:

Sup guys, mod from discord lol :^)

squirrelp's Normal


00:27:219 (2,3) - audibility wise, this is inconsistent with 00:20:681 (1,2) - (Remove the sliderstart on 00:27:219 (2) - basically and add a note instead xd) That's because of the sliderend at 00:25:296 (1) - but this rhythm is no problem to play
01:22:988 (2,3,1) - Wouldn't your mapping style benefit more from making it somewhat straight like earlier? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052551 Style doesn't matter for this :p
01:30:681 (2,3,4) - I think a single tap + a slider feels better here: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052571 Didn't use your suggestion, but I changed the rhythm here regardless (to slider -> slider)
01:33:565 (2) - Tbh this slider doesn't really fit what the song follows (especially applies to the reverse arrow xd) I think it does, because the strongest beats in this rhythm of the song are put at the sliderhead, arrow, and tail on purpose. I'm open to change if more people agree to this though
Thanks sporky :)

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Topic Starter
Haganenno

Spork Lover wrote:

Extra


Keep in mind that the diff is quite overdone for what the music offers (the spacing's too large in the jump parts), so you'll probably end up reducing the star rating to like 5.1* ish (The earlier you do this the better) I'll mention some things in the suggestions about it.
Also, Shiguma told me that you were striving for a more "old style" approach. As it is now, some patterns follow that idea, but others just seem randomly off, so I'll suggest some things regarding those. idk I didn' tell Shiguma anything about that, I just kind of mapped and didn't look for it to be oldschool or newschool.

Consistency wise there are some issues similar to xChorse's diff. As an example, 00:28:566 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is the same in the song as 00:22:027 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , but your map is saying that it's something else. You need to make similar sections similar rhythmically too in your map! I won't go too in detail here, but I hope I make some sense with this (If you have questions about it, ask me in-game!) :) (This also applies to the 2nd riff btw)
disagree, there is definitely no beat on 00:28:757 - but there is a silent beat on 00:22:604 -
00:17:701 (1,1) - Start the spinner on the 1/4's tick, it will play super cramped on the 1/16 tick lol xd (I would also end the spinner on 00:20:297 - ) - I think 1/4 on the spinner is too slow, but I did move the spinner to 1/8. That said, I think the ending slider placement is better the way it is
00:22:989 (7,1) - The part plays better like this (and looks better imo, but that's up for you to decide lol xd) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053295 ok np
00:24:527 (6,7,8,9) - I relocated the jumps so it's aesthetically pleasing instead (Keep in mind that 9 is like a "6th note" of the stream aesthetically): https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053336 fixed
00:29:624 (7,8) - Remove 7 and move 8 to a spot where a jump would be allowed (something like this?: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053413 It's very unpolished but you get the point lol xd) putting a bookmark here and will fix once my head will stop hurting lmao
00:32:123 and 00:32:796 - silence the slider ends plz <3 fixed
00:33:566 (6,7,8,9) - Why do you do doubles here when you don't at 00:35:104 (1,2,3,4,5) - ? This is the consistency thing I'm talking about. Please make it consistent ^^ because 00:35:296 - these is a beat and 00:33:757 - there is not
00:39:143 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I'm not a fan of the spacing nor the angle of this part (This is where the "it's overdone" part comes in) bookmarking and will fix
00:41:258 (1,2,1,2) - intensity wise, why is the spacing different on those two doubles? Is there any specific reason for this? (This also applies to the similar doubles in the other kiai!) I want the second double easy as a reset before the upcoming parts, I feel like a stop is needed and it's also pretty fun to play. I feel like the dynamic is fun here.
00:44:912 (1,2) - Doing a ctrl+H makes this flow like 10x better. (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053439) fixed
00:50:874 (3,4) - eh spacing is too high for this jump, you REALLY have to force your cursor lmfao
00:51:258 (6,1) - This is as intense as 3,4 in the music, but there's no jump whatsoever xd Please give this a good bunch[/color]
bookmarking for later to see if it actually fits well to have a jump there
01:00:681 (1,2,3) - This is inconsistent with 00:57:604 (1,2,3) - not sure where you're getting there. I understand it's the third measure, but the parts are very different
01:13:565 (3,4,5) - This is anti-flow, which you don't use in your map beforehand. (the 3,4 jump is way too large for how your cursor moves) this is a result of a ctrl+g, I did it because the normal placement was stale and not dynamic enough to play. I will change it if more people mention this and/or provide a way on how to fix it while maintaining the fun
01:16:643 (4) - the slider should start here, the vocals are very strong xd (And make 01:10:104 (2,3) - consistent with this part please ;_;) agree for the first one and "we'll see" for the second one
01:28:374 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,1,2) - It's very obvious that this is just an invert of the first one lol - At least make the patterns different lol xd (This applies to the entirety of the 2nd riff) but its fuuuuuun ;w;

Generally, if you do small flow breaks (like long sliders), make sure you do it in similar sections in the same spot as well! This is basically what I'm trying to get at. There's a lot more inconsistencies, but I mentioned the most important ones here. Also, some of the jumps seem very excessive for what the song offers like I said before, so nerfing a few of the jumps, so it's not a pure jump training map would help as well xd.
Thanks for the mod :)

Sorry for the shitty colours, I just picked random colour tones for the colours, highlight the words to see em. I have a lil bit of a headache rn so not worried about the goddamn colours. Once again, thanks for the mod :D
Spork Lover
Just use orange for the "considering/changed in a different way" color xD instead of the yellow one haha ^^
lazyboy007
Hey from Lazyboy's and Phyloukz' queue for M4M!

Monarch's Easy:

00:45:296 (1,2) - please make these parallel or more angled, this is too close to parallel, and yet it isn't parallel :p

And that's all. Well wait a sec, why does this one not rock? D:

squirrelp's Normal Rocks!:

Hm i don't like the slider design too much but that's about it.

xChorse's Hard Rocks!:

00:22:219 (1,2,3,4) - should be like 00:20:681 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -

that's all :3

Shiguma's Insane Rocks!:

01:08:373 (1,2) - blanket

I find the spacing on the streams a little high, but that's it ^^

Extra Rocks!:

00:17:701 (1) - feels weird when off-center
00:28:566 (1,2,3,4,5) - don't understand why you change rhythm here, either make all doubles or all streams
00:51:258 (6) - rotate to align with 4 and 5

Your streams have weird shapes and your slider design is awkward :p

I like the set though :) good luck ranking and don't forget to drop by fro M4M! :D
xChorse

lazyboy007 wrote:

Hey from Lazyboy's and Phyloukz' queue for M4M!

xChorse's Hard Rocks!:

00:22:219 (1,2,3,4) - should be like 00:20:681 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -

that's all :3
ya done

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Topic Starter
Haganenno

lazyboy007 wrote:

Extra Rocks!:

00:17:701 (1) - feels weird when off-center I think it doesn't matter, but I will change simply because it doesn't matter
00:28:566 (1,2,3,4,5) - don't understand why you change rhythm here, either make all doubles or all streams because the beat is different
00:51:258 (6) - rotate to align with 4 and 5 not sure if I got you correctly, but I did that

Your streams have weird shapes and your slider design is awkward :p will try to make sliders more aesthethical, sorry you didnt like teh strimms ;w;

I like the set though :) good luck ranking and don't forget to drop by fro M4M! :D
Thanks for the mod ;)
Shiguma

Spork Lover wrote:

Sup guys, mod from discord lol :^)

Color coding:
Unrankable if unchanged
Normal Suggestion/Comment
Strong Suggestion

Shiguma's Insane


To start with, I'm gonna refer to the suggestions I gave to xChorse. There's a few rhythmic inconsistencies here too (not as many as in his diff tho)

00:17:701 - Ru unrankableru timingu pointu (desu) 。゜(`Д´)゜。 whoops, fixed :P
00:20:681 (1,2,3) - Gonna throw out that this is nice (as a "normal" pattern, this is aesthetically pleasing) denied hehehe
00:22:219 (1,2,3) - I'd make this consistent with 00:28:373 (1,2,3) - instead, since the 1/4 sliders are a little excessive spacing-wise and will make the flow a lot better tbh xd okay
00:29:142 (4,5) - The first slider could have lower SV than the second so there's a cooler transition (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052871) nice idea
00:40:296 (1,2,1,2) - The stream being linear makes this transition a lot harder to aim consistently than the others. fixed
00:43:565 (1) - Doing it like this makes it easier to read: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052945 I'll try it cuz 1/8th is annoying but i dont wanna ignore the sound. hopefully this makes it less likely for players to break :)
00:44:911 (3,4,1) - Aesthetics m8 :^) (2,3 transition will also be a lot better) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052950 I forget if i fixed this lul but uh yeah
00:45:681 (2) - A triple-ish sound doesn't really work here imo xd i think it's fine it plays like a 1/2 anyway, and the sound is there
00:46:642 (1,2,3) - Another part that makes a lot of sense with the music, I salute you dear sir ^^ (If you wanna make it even more fitting you could do a tiny descend in SV, but it's not necessary) thanks :D i dont think the sv change is necessary though xd
00:47:988 (2,3) - spacing's a little awkward compared to 1,2 before it. xd also, switch NC on 00:47:796 (1,3) -. fixed or something
00:52:219 (3,4) - Another triple that doesn't really fit the music too well (If you added a flow related triple like this, you'd have to make it consistent, so remove it to make it a little more simple for starters ^^ (Just do 2 single taps here) changed to a reverse
00:54:527 (1,2,3) - Spacing is a little excessive imo xd meh i didnt think it was that bad but nerfed
00:55:681 (1,3) - VERY important NC switch, this NC switch would mean not choking the entire next pattern lol. Also 00:56:065 (3) this should be a single tap: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053001 <--- This is the entire pattern (I reworked some spacing a bit and also removed the nc on 00:56:257 (2) - changed it up
00:57:604 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Your idea is cool, but the song's emphasis is 4-note based (aka squares) yeah probably, but i like the pattern and it doesn't play bad imo so for now, im keeping it
00:59:142 (1,2,3,4) - This has good flow :)nope :^)
01:07:604 (5,6) - I'd do two slider here, the start of the reverse slider isn't that strong imo. you're right
01:08:373 (1,2) - Random idea you can use if you want: osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053037 The flow is a little better this way. your idea me no like, so me do different idea
01:17:604 (4,1) - Switch NC okay
01:17:988 (1,2,3) - Look at the spacing difference, and now listen to the intensity difference. (Make the big spacing a bit lower, and make the 2,3 spacing a fair bit higher. erm... i was confused here because it was like that (although subtle) but changed(?) i think
01:20:488 - The vocals are strong here, so you could start the slider here. it's fine as is, the vocals are pretty consistent throughout that part and i only emphasized the vocal where i thought i was appropriate in the diff.
01:21:450 (1,2) - Moving 2 a bit down and left flows a lot better: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053078 agreed
01:24:431 (6,7,1,2) - Make the spacing a bit more consistent and healthy: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053096 i tried x.x
01:33:373 (3) - Move this note to this spot to make the 1,2 sliders later a bit easier (because they have odd timing): osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053099 i guess? i changed it or something
01:34:142 (1,2) - This should be single taps tbh :)it's the end of the map so i want it to play a little strongly so that's why its kicksliders. don't think its a big deal hehe

Anyway, I wish you guys luck - If you have any questions, just message me in-game or something and we'll sort some stuff out xd big help, arigatou :P
Thanks for the mod, it helped a lot! :D

lazyboy007 wrote:

Hey from Lazyboy's and Phyloukz' queue for M4M!

Shiguma's Insane Rocks!:

01:08:373 (1,2) - blanket this pattern was changed in the previous mod so yeah...

I find the spacing on the streams a little high, but that's it ^^ nope, the distance is fine on them. the angles may have to use a little work, but we'll see.
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Lilyanna
Hi m4m from my queue

monach's Easy :

00:29:142 (3,4,2,3) - i think it should be better if u map it same as here 00:22:988 (3,2,3,4) - for rythm consistency and less confusing for new players
00:31:065 (2,3) - aslo stacked notes are bette ravoided in easy


00:40:681 (1) - remove nc you nc on evey 2 downbeats
00:58:373 (4,2) - these overlap also these 00:59:142 (1,2) - doesnt have consistent ds its from 0.80 to 1.30 Consistent spacing is required
maybe try rotate this 00:59:911 (2) - 99 degree and map that flow

01:07:988 (3,3) - the overlap here is visual also wierd flow u already been mapping that area why not go back on top ctrl-j this 01:09:911 (2) - and map that direction will be better ( sorry im bad at explaining)

squirrelp's Normal Rocks! :

00:25:296 (1) - this repeat slider end on the downbeat where a new patter should begin doesnt sound right maybe remove the repeat so u can start new pattern here 00:26:834 - like you did here 00:23:757 (1) - it should flow better
00:31:450 (1) - ^
00:37:604 (1,2,3) - the music is getting intens and u started to place less objects is little confusing feels like some notes could be added

xChorse's Hard Rocks!:

00:17:701 - you had spinner on normal why not on hard too xd
00:50:296 (2) - move to x218 y252
01:16:642 (3) - u could ctrl-h and then move to x50 y231 for better flow

Shiguma's Insane Rocks! :

00:22:988 (4,5) - can blanket better
00:26:065 (2) - u could make the symmetry of the previous slider will flow better imo they both sound same so giving one a sharp angle is confusing
00:29:142 (4,5) - add nc whe u change sv in sudden
00:47:027 (2) - can ctrl-g for better flow
00:57:027 (6) - nc sv changed
01:11:738 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - the steams sounds overmapped i dont hear any 1/4 snaps or maybe just me i mean u didnt map streams here 01:18:373 (3,4) - and they sound same
01:34:527 - can add a note here

sorry can't mod neither pass extra ;w; i hope i helped Good luck!
xChorse

Lilyanna wrote:

Hi m4m from my queue

xChorse's Hard Rocks!:

00:17:701 - you had spinner on normal why not on hard too xd Done
00:50:296 (2) - move to x218 y252 Nah it's a copy pasted pattern so the spacing is the same and it looks more aesthetically pleasing
01:16:642 (3) - u could ctrl-h and then move to x50 y231 for better flow Current one looks better to me
tfw never even looked at other diffs

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Chirony
Hi~
Thanks M4M

[General]
  1. Source: イニシャル・ディー → 頭文字D
  2. You don't use a hit sound?


[Extra Rocks!]
  1. 00:22:027 (1) - Delete slider, I recommend same as 00:28:181 (9)
  2. 00:30:104 (2,3,4,5,6) - Please try this pattern, it will match the music more.
  3. 00:31:258 (4) - Don't you think to use kick slider?
  4. 00:39:912 (8) - Move to 00:40:007
  5. 00:43:565 (1) - I heard as a drum sound is 1/8.
  6. 00:57:893 (2) -Delete circle. It is very difficult to play due to not exist sound.
  7. 01:03:374 (5,1) - You should follow drum sound in here.
  8. 01:09:912 (1) - Move to x:120 y:256.
  9. 01:29:143 (8) - Move to 01:29:238


[Shiguma's Insane Rocks!]
  1. 00:30:392 (3) - How about using reverse sliber?
  2. 00:33:661 (6,7) - hmm.. I feel this pattern is not match to the music. Music seems follow this pattern.
  3. 00:41:354 (6,7) - ^


[xChorse's Hard Rocks!]
  1. 00:43:565 (1,2,3,4) - not exist object in here. so would feel very difficult rhythm after that. Try this pattern.
  2. 00:54:142 (5,1) - Not match the music. Especially 00:54:527 (1) Try this pattern.


good luck,
xChorse

Chirony wrote:

Hi~
Thanks M4M
[xChorse's Hard Rocks!]
  1. 00:43:565 (1,2,3,4) - not exist object in here. so would feel very difficult rhythm after that. Try this pattern. Only blue ticks are the short sliders and on triples, this would add more diversity in rhythm (which is good, but this is just a hard diff so I'm going with few more simple and rhythm choices :/)
  2. 00:54:142 (5,1) - Not match the music. Especially 00:54:527 (1) Try this pattern. It's consistent with 00:50:681 (3,4) - and I want the drums to be clickable in the kiais
no changes, sorry :o
Topic Starter
Haganenno

Chirony wrote:

Hi~
Thanks M4M

[General]
  1. You don't use a hit sound? someday


[Extra Rocks!]
  1. 00:22:027 (1) - Delete slider, I recommend same as 00:28:181 (9) ok
  2. 00:30:104 (2,3,4,5,6) - Please try this pattern, it will match the music more. it matches the rhythm better, but I want to keep it simple because the beat is very weak in this part. Want to keep it very easy.
  3. 00:31:258 (4) - Don't you think to use kick slider? ok
  4. 00:39:912 (8) - Move to 00:40:007 there is a beat on (8) and doubles would require less spacing and less dynamic between the parts I 've mapped. I don't like that.
  5. 00:43:565 (1) - I heard as a drum sound is 1/8. it was supposed to be 1/8 idk how it became 1/6 lol
  6. 00:57:893 (2) -Delete circle. It is very difficult to play due to not exist sound. fixed
  7. 01:03:374 (5,1) - You should follow drum sound in here. no no no, the drums are barely audible
  8. 01:09:912 (1) - Move to x:120 y:256. ...why not
  9. 01:29:143 (8) - Move to 01:29:238 ^
Thanks for the mod!
Shiguma

Lilyanna wrote:

Hi m4m from my queue

Shiguma's Insane Rocks! :

00:22:988 (4,5) - can blanket better Okay
00:26:065 (2) - u could make the symmetry of the previous slider will flow better imo they both sound same so giving one a sharp angle is confusing Did some moving around
00:29:142 (4,5) - add nc whe u change sv in sudden Not that sudden where I feel I need to indicate it
00:47:027 (2) - can ctrl-g for better flow That would change the idea I'm going for
00:57:027 (6) - nc sv changed This one is pretty drastic so I'll change it
01:11:738 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - the steams sounds overmapped i dont hear any 1/4 snaps or maybe just me i mean u didnt map streams here 01:18:373 (3,4) - and they sound same They don't sound the same, one has audible sounds on each 1/4th, the other is just smooth, hence how I mapped it
01:34:527 - can add a note here ok

sorry can't mod neither pass extra ;w; i hope i helped Good luck! Thank you

Chirony wrote:

Hi~
Thanks M4M

[Shiguma's Insane Rocks!]
  1. 00:30:392 (3) - How about using reverse sliber? I've done what I've done consistently so I don't see the need to do it here
  2. 00:33:661 (6,7) - hmm.. I feel this pattern is not match to the music. Music seems follow this pattern. I don't agree
  3. 00:41:354 (6,7) - ^ ^


good luck, thanks
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squirrelpascals

Lilyanna wrote:

squirrelp's Normal Rocks! :

00:25:296 (1) - this repeat slider end on the downbeat where a new patter should begin doesnt sound right maybe remove the repeat so u can start new pattern here 00:26:834 - like you did here 00:23:757 (1) - it should flow better I see what you're saying, but I'm going to keep this one since the beat on teh sliderend is not strong. I'll probably change if other people bring this up tho
00:31:450 (1) - ^ I agree with this one tho. Changed
00:37:604 (1,2,3) - the music is getting intens and u started to place less objects is little confusing feels like some notes could be added I changed this part and others similar so object placement made more sense (and rhythm too)
Thank you! :)

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J1NX1337
Why would you cut this? ;_;
Topic Starter
Haganenno

J1NX1337 wrote:

Why would you cut this? ;_;
Because the rest of the song is the same. The first 1:20 has every fragment in the song that would exist in a 4 minute version, also because I get bored mapping the same beat quickly so the rest of the map would be even more half assed than the original :D

Thank you for a favourite though, really means a lot to me (and/or other mappers if you liked their difficulties) :)
J1NX1337

Haganenno wrote:

J1NX1337 wrote:

Why would you cut this? ;_;
Because the rest of the song is the same. The first 1:20 has every fragment in the song that would exist in a 4 minute version, also because I get bored mapping the same beat quickly so the rest of the map would be even more half assed than the original :D

Thank you for a favourite though, really means a lot to me (and/or other mappers if you liked their difficulties) :)
The second verse would've been nice to hear (even though it's pretty similar), as I like the lyrics of this song even though eurobeat lyrics tend to be pretty meaningless most of the time. lol
If I were to cut it, I would've personally ended it after the third riff section which would've made it about 2:30 long. :D

Nevertheless, good luck with the mapset! Maybe I'll drop in some feedback at some point. :)
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