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Mega NRG Man - Back on the Rocks [Taiko|Osu]

posted 2016-08-06T13:09:55+00:00

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Haganenno

247 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Haganenno 2016-09-10T15:21:06+00:00

Spork Lover wrote:
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Keep in mind that the diff is quite overdone for what the music offers (the spacing's too large in the jump parts), so you'll probably end up reducing the star rating to like 5.1* ish (The earlier you do this the better) I'll mention some things in the suggestions about it.
Also, Shiguma told me that you were striving for a more "old style" approach. As it is now, some patterns follow that idea, but others just seem randomly off, so I'll suggest some things regarding those. idk I didn' tell Shiguma anything about that, I just kind of mapped and didn't look for it to be oldschool or newschool.

Consistency wise there are some issues similar to xChorse's diff. As an example, 00:28:566 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is the same in the song as 00:22:027 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - , but your map is saying that it's something else. You need to make similar sections similar rhythmically too in your map! I won't go too in detail here, but I hope I make some sense with this (If you have questions about it, ask me in-game!) (This also applies to the 2nd riff btw)
disagree, there is definitely no beat on 00:28:757 - but there is a silent beat on 00:22:604 -
00:17:701 (1,1) - Start the spinner on the 1/4's tick, it will play super cramped on the 1/16 tick lol xd (I would also end the spinner on 00:20:297 - ) - I think 1/4 on the spinner is too slow, but I did move the spinner to 1/8. That said, I think the ending slider placement is better the way it is
00:22:989 (7,1) - The part plays better like this (and looks better imo, but that's up for you to decide lol xd) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053295 ok np
00:24:527 (6,7,8,9) - I relocated the jumps so it's aesthetically pleasing instead (Keep in mind that 9 is like a "6th note" of the stream aesthetically): https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053336 fixed
00:29:624 (7,8) - Remove 7 and move 8 to a spot where a jump would be allowed (something like this?: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053413 It's very unpolished but you get the point lol xd) putting a bookmark here and will fix once my head will stop hurting lmao
00:32:123 and 00:32:796 - silence the slider ends plz <3 fixed
00:33:566 (6,7,8,9) - Why do you do doubles here when you don't at 00:35:104 (1,2,3,4,5) - ? This is the consistency thing I'm talking about. Please make it consistent ^^ because 00:35:296 - these is a beat and 00:33:757 - there is not
00:39:143 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I'm not a fan of the spacing nor the angle of this part (This is where the "it's overdone" part comes in) bookmarking and will fix
00:41:258 (1,2,1,2) - intensity wise, why is the spacing different on those two doubles? Is there any specific reason for this? (This also applies to the similar doubles in the other kiai!) I want the second double easy as a reset before the upcoming parts, I feel like a stop is needed and it's also pretty fun to play. I feel like the dynamic is fun here.
00:44:912 (1,2) - Doing a ctrl+H makes this flow like 10x better. (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053439) fixed
00:50:874 (3,4) - eh spacing is too high for this jump, you REALLY have to force your cursor lmfao
00:51:258 (6,1) - This is as intense as 3,4 in the music, but there's no jump whatsoever xd Please give this a good bunch[/color] bookmarking for later to see if it actually fits well to have a jump there
01:00:681 (1,2,3) - This is inconsistent with 00:57:604 (1,2,3) - not sure where you're getting there. I understand it's the third measure, but the parts are very different
01:13:565 (3,4,5) - This is anti-flow, which you don't use in your map beforehand. (the 3,4 jump is way too large for how your cursor moves) this is a result of a ctrl+g, I did it because the normal placement was stale and not dynamic enough to play. I will change it if more people mention this and/or provide a way on how to fix it while maintaining the fun
01:16:643 (4) - the slider should start here, the vocals are very strong xd (And make 01:10:104 (2,3) - consistent with this part please ;_;) agree for the first one and "we'll see" for the second one
01:28:374 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,1,2) - It's very obvious that this is just an invert of the first one lol - At least make the patterns different lol xd (This applies to the entirety of the 2nd riff) but its fuuuuuun ;w;

Generally, if you do small flow breaks (like long sliders), make sure you do it in similar sections in the same spot as well! This is basically what I'm trying to get at. There's a lot more inconsistencies, but I mentioned the most important ones here. Also, some of the jumps seem very excessive for what the song offers like I said before, so nerfing a few of the jumps, so it's not a pure jump training map would help as well xd.

Thanks for the mod

Sorry for the shitty colours, I just picked random colour tones for the colours, highlight the words to see em. I have a lil bit of a headache rn so not worried about the goddamn colours. Once again, thanks for the mod

Spork Lover

722 posts

Joined October 2013

Spork Lover 2016-09-10T18:01:26+00:00

Just use orange for the "considering/changed in a different way" color xD instead of the yellow one haha ^^

lazygirl

506 posts

Joined February 2016

lazygirl 2016-09-11T21:26:22+00:00

Hey from Lazyboy's and Phyloukz' queue for M4M!

Monarch's Easy:

00:45:296 (1,2) - please make these parallel or more angled, this is too close to parallel, and yet it isn't parallel :p

And that's all. Well wait a sec, why does this one not rock? D:

squirrelp's Normal Rocks!:

Hm i don't like the slider design too much but that's about it.

xChorse's Hard Rocks!:

00:22:219 (1,2,3,4) - should be like 00:20:681 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -

that's all :3

Shiguma's Insane Rocks!:

01:08:373 (1,2) - blanket

I find the spacing on the streams a little high, but that's it ^^

Extra Rocks!:

00:17:701 (1) - feels weird when off-center
00:28:566 (1,2,3,4,5) - don't understand why you change rhythm here, either make all doubles or all streams
00:51:258 (6) - rotate to align with 4 and 5

Your streams have weird shapes and your slider design is awkward :p

I like the set though

good luck ranking and don't forget to drop by fro M4M!

xChorse

765 posts

Joined December 2012

xChorse 2016-09-12T10:32:57+00:00

lazyboy007 wrote:
Hey from Lazyboy's and Phyloukz' queue for M4M!

xChorse's Hard Rocks!:

00:22:219 (1,2,3,4) - should be like 00:20:681 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -

that's all :3

ya done

naujausioji velnio kodu laida

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Haganenno

247 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Haganenno 2016-09-12T16:08:06+00:00

lazyboy007 wrote:
Extra Rocks!:

00:17:701 (1) - feels weird when off-center I think it doesn't matter, but I will change simply because it doesn't matter
00:28:566 (1,2,3,4,5) - don't understand why you change rhythm here, either make all doubles or all streams because the beat is different
00:51:258 (6) - rotate to align with 4 and 5 not sure if I got you correctly, but I did that

Your streams have weird shapes and your slider design is awkward :p will try to make sliders more aesthethical, sorry you didnt like teh strimms ;w;

I like the set though good luck ranking and don't forget to drop by fro M4M!

Thanks for the mod

Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2016-09-14T14:32:45+00:00

Spork Lover wrote:
Sup guys, mod from discord lol :^)

Color coding:
Color coding
Unrankable if unchanged
Normal Suggestion/Comment
Strong Suggestion

Shiguma's Insane
To start with, I'm gonna refer to the suggestions I gave to xChorse. There's a few rhythmic inconsistencies here too (not as many as in his diff tho)

00:17:701 - Ru unrankableru timingu pointu (desu) ｡゜(｀Д´)゜｡ whoops, fixed
00:20:681 (1,2,3) - Gonna throw out that this is nice (as a "normal" pattern, this is aesthetically pleasing) denied hehehe
00:22:219 (1,2,3) - I'd make this consistent with 00:28:373 (1,2,3) - instead, since the 1/4 sliders are a little excessive spacing-wise and will make the flow a lot better tbh xd okay
00:29:142 (4,5) - The first slider could have lower SV than the second so there's a cooler transition (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052871) nice idea
00:40:296 (1,2,1,2) - The stream being linear makes this transition a lot harder to aim consistently than the others. fixed
00:43:565 (1) - Doing it like this makes it easier to read: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052945 I'll try it cuz 1/8th is annoying but i dont wanna ignore the sound. hopefully this makes it less likely for players to break
00:44:911 (3,4,1) - Aesthetics m8 :^) (2,3 transition will also be a lot better) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6052950 I forget if i fixed this lul but uh yeah
00:45:681 (2) - A triple-ish sound doesn't really work here imo xd i think it's fine it plays like a 1/2 anyway, and the sound is there
00:46:642 (1,2,3) - Another part that makes a lot of sense with the music, I salute you dear sir ^^ (If you wanna make it even more fitting you could do a tiny descend in SV, but it's not necessary) thanks i dont think the sv change is necessary though xd
00:47:988 (2,3) - spacing's a little awkward compared to 1,2 before it. xd also, switch NC on 00:47:796 (1,3) -. fixed or something
00:52:219 (3,4) - Another triple that doesn't really fit the music too well (If you added a flow related triple like this, you'd have to make it consistent, so remove it to make it a little more simple for starters ^^ (Just do 2 single taps here) changed to a reverse
00:54:527 (1,2,3) - Spacing is a little excessive imo xd meh i didnt think it was that bad but nerfed
00:55:681 (1,3) - VERY important NC switch, this NC switch would mean not choking the entire next pattern lol. Also 00:56:065 (3) this should be a single tap: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053001 <--- This is the entire pattern (I reworked some spacing a bit and also removed the nc on 00:56:257 (2) - changed it up
00:57:604 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Your idea is cool, but the song's emphasis is 4-note based (aka squares) yeah probably, but i like the pattern and it doesn't play bad imo so for now, im keeping it
00:59:142 (1,2,3,4) - This has good flow nope :^)
01:07:604 (5,6) - I'd do two slider here, the start of the reverse slider isn't that strong imo. you're right
01:08:373 (1,2) - Random idea you can use if you want: osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053037 The flow is a little better this way. your idea me no like, so me do different idea
01:17:604 (4,1) - Switch NC okay
01:17:988 (1,2,3) - Look at the spacing difference, and now listen to the intensity difference. (Make the big spacing a bit lower, and make the 2,3 spacing a fair bit higher. erm... i was confused here because it was like that (although subtle) but changed(?) i think
01:20:488 - The vocals are strong here, so you could start the slider here. it's fine as is, the vocals are pretty consistent throughout that part and i only emphasized the vocal where i thought i was appropriate in the diff.
01:21:450 (1,2) - Moving 2 a bit down and left flows a lot better: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053078 agreed
01:24:431 (6,7,1,2) - Make the spacing a bit more consistent and healthy: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053096 i tried x.x
01:33:373 (3) - Move this note to this spot to make the 1,2 sliders later a bit easier (because they have odd timing): osu.ppy.sh/ss/6053099 i guess? i changed it or something
01:34:142 (1,2) - This should be single taps tbh it's the end of the map so i want it to play a little strongly so that's why its kicksliders. don't think its a big deal hehe

Anyway, I wish you guys luck - If you have any questions, just message me in-game or something and we'll sort some stuff out xd big help, arigatou
Thanks for the mod, it helped a lot!

lazyboy007 wrote:
Hey from Lazyboy's and Phyloukz' queue for M4M!

Shiguma's Insane Rocks!:

01:08:373 (1,2) - blanket this pattern was changed in the previous mod so yeah...

I find the spacing on the streams a little high, but that's it ^^ nope, the distance is fine on them. the angles may have to use a little work, but we'll see.

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Lilyanna

1,918 posts

Joined March 2016

Lilyanna 2016-09-14T16:36:59+00:00

Hi m4m from my queue

monach's Easy :

00:29:142 (3,4,2,3) - i think it should be better if u map it same as here 00:22:988 (3,2,3,4) - for rythm consistency and less confusing for new players
00:31:065 (2,3) - aslo stacked notes are bette ravoided in easy

pic

00:40:681 (1) - remove nc you nc on evey 2 downbeats
00:58:373 (4,2) - these overlap also these 00:59:142 (1,2) - doesnt have consistent ds its from 0.80 to 1.30 Consistent spacing is required
maybe try rotate this 00:59:911 (2) - 99 degree and map that flow

pic

01:07:988 (3,3) - the overlap here is visual also wierd flow u already been mapping that area why not go back on top ctrl-j this 01:09:911 (2) - and map that direction will be better ( sorry im bad at explaining)

squirrelp's Normal Rocks! :

00:25:296 (1) - this repeat slider end on the downbeat where a new patter should begin doesnt sound right maybe remove the repeat so u can start new pattern here 00:26:834 - like you did here 00:23:757 (1) - it should flow better
00:31:450 (1) - ^
00:37:604 (1,2,3) - the music is getting intens and u started to place less objects is little confusing feels like some notes could be added

xChorse's Hard Rocks!:

00:17:701 - you had spinner on normal why not on hard too xd
00:50:296 (2) - move to x218 y252
01:16:642 (3) - u could ctrl-h and then move to x50 y231 for better flow

Shiguma's Insane Rocks! :

00:22:988 (4,5) - can blanket better
00:26:065 (2) - u could make the symmetry of the previous slider will flow better imo they both sound same so giving one a sharp angle is confusing
00:29:142 (4,5) - add nc whe u change sv in sudden
00:47:027 (2) - can ctrl-g for better flow
00:57:027 (6) - nc sv changed
01:11:738 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - the steams sounds overmapped i dont hear any 1/4 snaps or maybe just me i mean u didnt map streams here 01:18:373 (3,4) - and they sound same
01:34:527 - can add a note here

sorry can't mod neither pass extra ;w; i hope i helped Good luck!

xChorse

765 posts

Joined December 2012

xChorse 2016-09-14T18:08:08+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
Hi m4m from my queue

xChorse's Hard Rocks!:

00:17:701 - you had spinner on normal why not on hard too xd Done
00:50:296 (2) - move to x218 y252 Nah it's a copy pasted pattern so the spacing is the same and it looks more aesthetically pleasing
01:16:642 (3) - u could ctrl-h and then move to x50 y231 for better flow Current one looks better to me

tfw never even looked at other diffs

horso pelke

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Chirony

390 posts

Joined June 2012

Chirony 2016-09-16T14:33:47+00:00

Hi~
Thanks M4M

[General]

Source: イニシャル・ディー → 頭文字D
You don't use a hit sound?

[Extra Rocks!]

00:22:027 (1) - Delete slider, I recommend same as 00:28:181 (9)
00:30:104 (2,3,4,5,6) - Please try this pattern, it will match the music more.
00:31:258 (4) - Don't you think to use kick slider?
00:39:912 (8) - Move to 00:40:007
00:43:565 (1) - I heard as a drum sound is 1/8.
00:57:893 (2) -Delete circle. It is very difficult to play due to not exist sound.
01:03:374 (5,1) - You should follow drum sound in here.
01:09:912 (1) - Move to x:120 y:256.
01:29:143 (8) - Move to 01:29:238

[Shiguma's Insane Rocks!]

00:30:392 (3) - How about using reverse sliber?
00:33:661 (6,7) - hmm.. I feel this pattern is not match to the music. Music seems follow this pattern.
00:41:354 (6,7) - ^

[xChorse's Hard Rocks!]

00:43:565 (1,2,3,4) - not exist object in here. so would feel very difficult rhythm after that. Try this pattern.
00:54:142 (5,1) - Not match the music. Especially 00:54:527 (1) Try this pattern.

good luck,

xChorse

765 posts

Joined December 2012

xChorse 2016-09-16T15:21:22+00:00

Chirony wrote:
Hi~
Thanks M4M
[xChorse's Hard Rocks!]
00:43:565 (1,2,3,4) - not exist object in here. so would feel very difficult rhythm after that. Try this pattern. Only blue ticks are the short sliders and on triples, this would add more diversity in rhythm (which is good, but this is just a hard diff so I'm going with few more simple and rhythm choices :/)
00:54:142 (5,1) - Not match the music. Especially 00:54:527 (1) Try this pattern. It's consistent with 00:50:681 (3,4) - and I want the drums to be clickable in the kiais

no changes, sorry

Haganenno

247 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Haganenno 2016-09-16T16:00:07+00:00

Chirony wrote:
Hi~
Thanks M4M

[General]
You don't use a hit sound? someday

[Extra Rocks!]
00:22:027 (1) - Delete slider, I recommend same as 00:28:181 (9) ok
00:30:104 (2,3,4,5,6) - Please try this pattern, it will match the music more. it matches the rhythm better, but I want to keep it simple because the beat is very weak in this part. Want to keep it very easy.
00:31:258 (4) - Don't you think to use kick slider? ok
00:39:912 (8) - Move to 00:40:007 there is a beat on (8) and doubles would require less spacing and less dynamic between the parts I 've mapped. I don't like that.
00:43:565 (1) - I heard as a drum sound is 1/8. it was supposed to be 1/8 idk how it became 1/6 lol
00:57:893 (2) -Delete circle. It is very difficult to play due to not exist sound. fixed
01:03:374 (5,1) - You should follow drum sound in here. no no no, the drums are barely audible
01:09:912 (1) - Move to x:120 y:256. ...why not
01:29:143 (8) - Move to 01:29:238 ^

Thanks for the mod!

Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2016-09-16T19:22:46+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
Hi m4m from my queue

Shiguma's Insane Rocks! :

00:22:988 (4,5) - can blanket better Okay
00:26:065 (2) - u could make the symmetry of the previous slider will flow better imo they both sound same so giving one a sharp angle is confusing Did some moving around
00:29:142 (4,5) - add nc whe u change sv in sudden Not that sudden where I feel I need to indicate it
00:47:027 (2) - can ctrl-g for better flow That would change the idea I'm going for
00:57:027 (6) - nc sv changed This one is pretty drastic so I'll change it
01:11:738 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - the steams sounds overmapped i dont hear any 1/4 snaps or maybe just me i mean u didnt map streams here 01:18:373 (3,4) - and they sound same They don't sound the same, one has audible sounds on each 1/4th, the other is just smooth, hence how I mapped it
01:34:527 - can add a note here ok

sorry can't mod neither pass extra ;w; i hope i helped Good luck! Thank you

Chirony wrote:
Hi~
Thanks M4M

[Shiguma's Insane Rocks!]
00:30:392 (3) - How about using reverse sliber? I've done what I've done consistently so I don't see the need to do it here
00:33:661 (6,7) - hmm.. I feel this pattern is not match to the music. Music seems follow this pattern. I don't agree
00:41:354 (6,7) - ^ ^
good luck, thanks

update

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squirrelpascals

982 posts

Joined March 2015

squirrelpascals 2016-09-18T16:41:14+00:00

Lilyanna wrote:
squirrelp's Normal Rocks! :

00:25:296 (1) - this repeat slider end on the downbeat where a new patter should begin doesnt sound right maybe remove the repeat so u can start new pattern here 00:26:834 - like you did here 00:23:757 (1) - it should flow better I see what you're saying, but I'm going to keep this one since the beat on teh sliderend is not strong. I'll probably change if other people bring this up tho
00:31:450 (1) - ^ I agree with this one tho. Changed
00:37:604 (1,2,3) - the music is getting intens and u started to place less objects is little confusing feels like some notes could be added I changed this part and others similar so object placement made more sense (and rhythm too)

Thank you!

back on theu pdates

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J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

J1NX1337 2016-09-19T00:12:29+00:00

Why would you cut this? ;_;

Haganenno

247 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Haganenno 2016-09-19T17:46:43+00:00

J1NX1337 wrote:
Why would you cut this? ;_;

Because the rest of the song is the same. The first 1:20 has every fragment in the song that would exist in a 4 minute version, also because I get bored mapping the same beat quickly so the rest of the map would be even more half assed than the original

Thank you for a favourite though, really means a lot to me (and/or other mappers if you liked their difficulties)

J1NX1337

248 posts

Joined February 2014

J1NX1337 2016-09-21T19:12:35+00:00

Haganenno wrote:
J1NX1337 wrote:
Why would you cut this? ;_;

Because the rest of the song is the same. The first 1:20 has every fragment in the song that would exist in a 4 minute version, also because I get bored mapping the same beat quickly so the rest of the map would be even more half assed than the original

Thank you for a favourite though, really means a lot to me (and/or other mappers if you liked their difficulties)

The second verse would've been nice to hear (even though it's pretty similar), as I like the lyrics of this song even though eurobeat lyrics tend to be pretty meaningless most of the time. lol
If I were to cut it, I would've personally ended it after the third riff section which would've made it about 2:30 long.

Nevertheless, good luck with the mapset! Maybe I'll drop in some feedback at some point.

Haganenno

247 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Haganenno 2016-09-22T18:38:03+00:00

J1NX1337 wrote:
Nevertheless, good luck with the mapset! Maybe I'll drop in some feedback at some point.

Thanks!

xtrem3x

1,781 posts

Joined July 2009

xtrem3x 2016-09-24T04:27:27+00:00

Summoning Bakari or some BN/QAT who like eurobeat (specially Initial D) (?)

2 stars ...

Takumi Fujiwara (Akina SpeedStars -> Project D) vs Takeshi Nakazato (Night Kids) and Keisuke Takahashi (RedSuns -> Project D) vs Kozo Hoshino (Purple Shadows)

Haganenno

247 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Haganenno 2016-09-24T18:45:05+00:00

xtrem3x wrote:
Summoning Bakari or some BN/QAT who like eurobeat (specially Initial D) (?)

2 stars ...

Takumi Fujiwara (Akina SpeedStars -> Project D) vs Takeshi Nakazato (Night Kids) and Keisuke Takahashi (RedSuns -> Project D) vs Kozo Hoshino (Purple Shadows)

Thank you for the stars! Not gonna lie, I don't know what you just said, as I have never seen Initial D, but I do like the beat of Eurobeat and I thought it has potential to be mapped in a dynamic way, so that's how I cam accross this song

Louis Cyphre

2,684 posts

Joined October 2009

Louis Cyphre 2016-09-27T17:59:22+00:00

[General]
- First part of the intro takes 16.6% of entire track, last part of music starting from last note of the map at 88.5% till the end takes 11.5% of entire track. Rules say that if you don't use more than 20% of the song you must cut it in order to get it ranked. 16.6 + 11.5 = 28.1%
[Extra Rocks!]

00:31:257 (4) - why did you use such shape? :/
00:31:451 (5,6) - Maybe you should at least use them identical?
00:36:066 (5) - new combo since spacing is changing
00:36:643 (1,2,3,4,5) - the spacing between notes are a little bit inconsistent. I suggest to disable grid snap and to adjust them manually so spacing will be without any inconsistence (tho +/- 0,01x is good too).
01:25:873 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
00:38:181 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 2007
01:27:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
00:40:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - the spacing is inconsistent
00:41:258 (1,2,1,2) - any reasons to use such spacing?
00:43:854 (2,3,4,5) - use ctrl+shift+d to make perfect square, pentagons and etc
00:49:720 (7) - adjust the slider shape
00:50:874 (3) - 6.27x jump, are you serious?
00:55:681 (5) - remove sliderslide hitsound from slider
01:23:181 (10) - please adjust the spacing...
01:25:297 (5) - new combo

[Shiguma's Insane Rocks!]
00:17:701 (1) - avoid overlapping of slider start and end so it makes more nice)
00:29:527 (5) - tale about overlaps
00:51:065 (5) - newcombo due to spacing change
01:06:834 (1,2,3,4,5) - for perfect pentagon creation use ctrl+shift+d

[xChorse's Hard Rocks!]
00:17:701 (1) - reduce the volume of spinner end to 5% with soft hitsound set
00:50:681 (3,4) - well, i don't know why mappers use to make such shapes, but seriously, they are short, any attempt to make a non-linear shape gets weird

[squirrelp's Normal Rocks!]
AR+1
00:52:219 (2,3,1,2) - 2007
00:56:642 (2) - please no ._. make just a simple wave instead
01:05:104 (3) - em...?

[Monarch's Easy]
00:27:987 (2) - it's better to start this slider at 00:28:373 and add a note instead at 00:27:987 so the rhythm will go correct

Nothing esle, sorry delays

xChorse

765 posts

Joined December 2012

xChorse 2016-09-27T18:46:37+00:00

Louis Cyphre wrote:
[xChorse's Hard Rocks!]
00:17:701 (1) - reduce the volume of spinner end to 5% with soft hitsound set Only diff to do this but ok
00:50:681 (3,4) - well, i don't know why mappers use to make such shapes, but seriously, they are short, any attempt to make a non-linear shape gets weird Basically having such slight curves doesn't make it look any worse and having them curved like this is more aesthetically pleasing when they gradually rotate. Whereas these kind of patterns would look pretty bad with linear flow, they look good with circular flow (which I used in that part of the map) as shown in the picture below. These short non-linear sliders are OK as long as they aren't too curved, which is when they often show up as unpolished and messy.

Also removed some unnecessary inherited points and rounded them up

hag take the wheel

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Haganenno

247 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Haganenno 2016-09-27T19:29:50+00:00

Louis Cyphre wrote:
[General]
- First part of the intro takes 16.6% of entire track, last part of music starting from last note of the map at 88.5% till the end takes 11.5% of entire track. Rules say that if you don't use more than 20% of the song you must cut it in order to get it ranked. 16.6 + 11.5 = 28.1% - will fix
[Extra Rocks!]

00:31:257 (4) - why did you use such shape? :/ changed, even though I don't see the need for it
00:31:451 (5,6) - Maybe you should at least use them identical? I like the blanket I created with the second slider
00:36:066 (5) - new combo since spacing is changing sure
00:36:643 (1,2,3,4,5) - the spacing between notes are a little bit inconsistent. I suggest to disable grid snap and to adjust them manually so spacing will be without any inconsistence (tho +/- 0,01x is good too). fixed
01:25:873 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ fixed
00:38:181 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 2007 I love it this way
01:27:412 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
00:40:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - the spacing is inconsistent intended, different note on 00:40:681 -
00:41:258 (1,2,1,2) - any reasons to use such spacing? playability. A movement pause feels very nice during all this mayehm going on in the section and it also shows the contrast between the double section and the upcoming finale
00:43:854 (2,3,4,5) - use ctrl+shift+d to make perfect square, pentagons and etc The reason it looks so ass is because I didn't want a perfect circle, I decided it would be too harsh on the player and too toxic for the map
00:49:720 (7) - adjust the slider shape will do someday ;w;
00:50:874 (3) - 6.27x jump, are you serious? it's a kickslider lol
00:55:681 (5) - remove sliderslide hitsound from slider fixed
01:23:181 (10) - please adjust the spacing... hope it is better now
01:25:297 (5) - new combo why not

A pretty good mod tbh, thank you!

Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2016-09-27T19:54:59+00:00

Louis Cyphre wrote:
[Shiguma's Insane Rocks!]
00:17:701 (1) - avoid overlapping of slider start and end so it makes more nice) ok
00:29:527 (5) - tale about overlaps tale about intentional
00:51:065 (5) - newcombo due to spacing change okey
01:06:834 (1,2,3,4,5) - for perfect pentagon creation use ctrl+shift+d sure, might as well

Nothing esle, sorry delays thanks for mod

yay
osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
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Countdown: 0
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[Editor]
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Title:Back on the Rocks
TitleUnicode:Back on the Rocks
Artist:Mega NRG Man
ArtistUnicode:Mega NRG Man
Creator:Haganenno
Version:Shiguma's Insane Rocks!
Source:頭文字D
Tags:initial d eurobeat anime english xChorse Shiguma squirrelpascals Monarch rocks!
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with new audio file + pls add the hitsounds i picked out

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Version:Shiguma's Insane Rocks!
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ItashaS13

678 posts

Joined January 2014

ItashaS13 2016-10-04T15:15:36+00:00

Extra Rocks!

00:21:167 (7) - avoid overlap with stream
00:21:936 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - for this I suggest something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6244629 it looks better and 00:21:936 (1,2) - its the first time you use this double, so a shorter distance with the next stream would not be bad
00:23:954 - this sound here is very notieceable, why not make a kickslider at the end of the stream? <so it makes consistency with 00:24:627 (4) - >
00:24:627 (4,5) - make them a line straight like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6244660so it looks a bit less messy (also stack 00:24:244 (2) - with 00:25:588 (6) - head)?
00:27:032 (7,4) - stack them properly
00:32:416 - missed this sound of here, kickslider :p?
00:33:377 - also missed this one, they're noticeable and it sounds like it needs a circle on them, don't change if you want but idk at least use a kickslider
00:33:282 (8,3) - avoid overlap
00:34:628 (1,2,1,2) - why both has different ds?
00:36:455 (3,4) - should stack the 3 with the 8 of the previous stream
00:37:801 (7,1) - stack these properly
00:44:244 (3,6) - both shapes should be equal, remove red anchor on the 2d one or add red anchor on the first one
00:45:590 (4,1) - stack heads?
00:56:743 (5,1) - too much spacing :T
01:07:705 (5,9) - stack?
01:04:821 (7,2) - ^
01:12:128 (6) - ok yes, this is following vocals but there's a strong beat at the end of it, it should be clickable, should end the slider on blue tick and add a circle on white
01:18:667 (5) - forgot the nc? like 00:29:435 -
01:17:704 - I smell a copy paste from here 01:22:897 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - at least change this :/
01:23:859 (1,2,1,2) - same of the beginning

GLGLGL, this game needs more Initial D

vipto

716 posts

Joined May 2011

vipto 2016-10-04T19:15:19+00:00

Hi

[Extra Rocks]

00:14:051 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - lots of spacing errors here and 00:14:821 (6,7,8,9) - dont really need jumps as the music doesnt provide anything that would justify such. i recommend just ds'ing this section
00:17:705 (5,6) - this jump is really unexpected and really large compared to the other jumps in this section.
00:18:090 (7) - very weird stack, i recommend putting it somewhere else. maybe stack 00:17:897 (6) - with 00:18:282 (8) - and move 00:18:090 (7) - off to the left
00:18:667 (1) - as it stands now this slider overlaps with 2 circles which is meh. if you decide to apply my aforementioned sugeestions and move it a little lower it'll be just fine.
00:21:167 (7) - overlap with 00:20:686 (4,5) - , easy fix
00:21:936 (1,2) - move those further away from 00:21:551 (9) - , it's a 1/1 gap after all
00:22:513 (6) - overlap with 00:21:936 (1,2) - , unsure of what to do here... if you move them lower you could have 00:22:513 (6) - blanket 00:21:936 (1) - and it'd work out
00:24:627 (4) - ctrl g
00:26:358 - i see what you are trying to achieve in this part with the increasing stream spacing, i however dislike the stream shapes a lot, they seem very crooked where straight lines or nice curves would fit a lot better imo
00:29:051 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:30:974 (1,2,3,4,5) - specifically, they are almost straight lines and i think it'd look better if they were such.
00:33:667 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - i dont understand why you chose to change the spacing here as well, ther is no change in intensity anymore. 00:34:051 (5,6,7,8,9) - adapt those to the first part of the stream
00:34:917 (1,2) - low spacing all of a sudden when 00:34:628 (1,2) - is the same sound? either have both close or both almost stacked.
00:35:397 (4) - ctrl g
00:37:224 (2,3,4,5) - either adapt those to the spacing of 00:37:705 (6,7,8,9) - or vice versa.
00:40:013 (1,2) - very very strange flow and radical jump distance out of nowhere. tone this down
00:44:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same as above, ridiculous spike in difficulty in a relatively tame part of the song, a normal stream should easily do here.
00:45:013 (2,3) - inconsistent spacing with 00:44:821 (1,2) -
00:52:513 (1,4) - overlap
00:52:513 (1,3) - and again
00:55:782 (2,4) - and again
00:56:743 (5,1) - again, huge spike in difficulty out of nowhere, this is really provoking misses.
01:01:359 (1,3,5) - bad overlap again
01:02:321 (5,1) - and again
01:03:281 - aside that i do not agree with the jump size and the forced difficulty here i have nothing to say other than fix those overlaps, they are everywhere.
01:15:589 - since this is copy paste apply the same things i mentioned before.
01:26:454 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - bad overlap switch 01:26:936 (6,7,8,9) - maybe.

[Shiguma]

00:29:051 (1,2) - and 00:33:666 (1,2) - are a little too far apart imo, space them the same as 00:35:589 (1,2) - , that's plenty enough
00:49:051 (4,5) - uncalled for kicksliders with an awkward angle as well, just make them circles.
01:27:512 (1,2) - circles here

i dont like this diff a lot either but i dont see anything fundamentally wrong with it except that you should look into using DS more
00:54:051 (1,2,3,4,1) - sections like this work a lot better with DS

[xChorse]

00:30:012 (4,5,6) - weird stack, avoid things like this in Hards.
00:33:666 (6,1) - inconsistent spacing with the previous sliders.
00:35:589 (1,2,3,4,5) - this section gets messed up by autostacking just stack 00:36:166 (5) - onto 00:35:397 (7) -
00:42:512 (4,5) - weird stacking again, this isnt really something fitting for a hard.
00:46:743 (2,3) - ^
00:50:397 (4) - ^
00:57:897 (3,4) - ^
01:00:204 (1,2) - sigh ^
01:01:743 (1) - ^^
01:06:358 (1,2,3) - jumps in a hard are highly controversial and you stacking them like this is even worse. You definitely will have to change something here.
01:06:935 (4) - from here on your 1/2 sliders are on redticks which makes the whole thing awkward to listen to and play. Especially in lower difficulties you should avoid rhythmically advanced concepts like redtick sliders and stick to consistent rhythm.

01:06:935 (4,5,6,1,2) - this applies to here as well.
01:16:166 (5) - weird stack that gets wrecked by autostacking
01:17:704 (5) - and again
01:22:897 (7,8,3) - weird stacking, again.
01:24:435 (5,1,2,3) - autostacking does not like you it seems

[squirrel]

00:31:551 (2) - redtick 1/2
00:34:627 (2) - again, i dont think i need to explain why this is bad.
00:37:704 (2) - ^
00:51:551 (3,4) - ^
01:03:858 (2) - ^
01:09:435 (1,2) - ^
01:19:243 (2) - ^
01:20:781 (2) - ^
01:22:320 (2) - ^

Well you could just leave them in if you like, this diff isnt a normal anyways and i am afraif this set will need another difficulty between Easy and "Normal"
I see that the BPM is fairly low but even then a Normal should not contain frequent 1/2 in sliders AND circles. Rename this to Advanced or something and make a proper Normal.

The easy is fine.

squirrelpascals

982 posts

Joined March 2015

squirrelpascals 2016-10-05T05:23:09+00:00

viptwo wrote:
Well you could just leave them in if you like, this diff isnt a normal anyways and i am afraif this set will need another difficulty between Easy and "Normal"
I see that the BPM is fairly low but even then a Normal should not contain frequent 1/2 in sliders AND circles. Rename this to Advanced or something and make a proper Normal.

Normals are composed of 1/1 and 1/2 rhythms in the first place. As for the diff itself, the spread is fine and plays nicely as a normal, so idk what your talking about. I'll catch up on mods later

Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2016-10-05T05:35:13+00:00

viptwo wrote:
[Shiguma]

00:29:051 (1,2) - and 00:33:666 (1,2) - are a little too far apart imo, space them the same as 00:35:589 (1,2) - , that's plenty enough did some stuff but not really to the extent you were telling me to
00:49:051 (4,5) - uncalled for kicksliders with an awkward angle as well, just make them circles. modified slightly, kept the kicksliders though. the beat is pretty intense right there so i made them kicksliders. they're not uncalled for imo
01:27:512 (1,2) - circles here no

i dont like this diff a lot either but i dont see anything fundamentally wrong with it except that you should look into using DS more
00:54:051 (1,2,3,4,1) - sections like this work a lot better with DS will take into account, i tried making that part more even btw

thx 4 mod

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xChorse

765 posts

Joined December 2012

xChorse 2016-10-05T11:37:16+00:00

viptwo wrote:
[xChorse]
Stacks are one of the most noticeable features of my maps, all of them are structured like this. I personally don't see any reason to change these. They don't hide any slider return arrows and don't overlap with anything so they are fine imo.
00:33:666 (6,1) - inconsistent spacing with the previous sliders. Fixed
00:35:589 (1,2,3,4,5) - this section gets messed up by autostacking just stack 00:36:166 (5) - onto 00:35:397 (7) - Bad flow like that, it's fine as it is
01:06:358 (1,2,3) - jumps in a hard are highly controversial and you stacking them like this is even worse. You definitely will have to change something here.
This has 1.62 ds where the kiai has 1.6 ds so I wouldn't classify it as a jump since there's no apparent change in the spacing. The reason for it being 1.62 instead of 1.6 is to stack the hitcircles under the sliderends
01:06:935 (4) - from here on your 1/2 sliders are on redticks which makes the whole thing awkward to listen to and play. Especially in lower difficulties you should avoid rhythmically advanced concepts like redtick sliders and stick to consistent rhythm. Following the vocals as they are the most obvious sound at the kiai parts
01:06:935 (4,5,6,1,2) - this applies to here as well. ^

Edit: Added some missing hitsounds

Sunkūs Akmenys

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Haganenno

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Haganenno 2016-10-05T14:43:50+00:00

viptwo wrote:
Hi

[Extra Rocks]

00:14:051 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - lots of spacing errors here and 00:14:821 (6,7,8,9) - dont really need jumps as the music doesnt provide anything that would justify such. i recommend just ds'ing this section I will instantly say that I won't take any stacking/overlap recommendations and spacing at the song's prologue. Overlap/stacking because it is seriously a huge meme by the mappers, when you play, you really don't get screwed by one hitcircle overlapping with GOD FORGIVE ONE HITCIRCLE TWO COMBOS AGO. Regarding spacing at the prologue, the BPM is piss low and I did need some unorthodox spacing to actually make something playable and fun.
00:17:705 (5,6) - this jump is really unexpected and really large compared to the other jumps in this section.
00:18:090 (7) - very weird stack, i recommend putting it somewhere else. maybe stack 00:17:897 (6) - with 00:18:282 (8) - and move 00:18:090 (7) - off to the left
00:18:667 (1) - as it stands now this slider overlaps with 2 circles which is meh. if you decide to apply my aforementioned sugeestions and move it a little lower it'll be just fine.
00:21:167 (7) - overlap with 00:20:686 (4,5) - , easy fix
00:21:936 (1,2) - move those further away from 00:21:551 (9) - , it's a 1/1 gap after all I blanketed the double afterwards, created a bit more space
00:22:513 (6) - overlap with 00:21:936 (1,2) - , unsure of what to do here... if you move them lower you could have 00:22:513 (6) - blanket 00:21:936 (1) - and it'd work out
00:24:627 (4) - ctrl g let us see how it works out
00:26:358 - i see what you are trying to achieve in this part with the increasing stream spacing, i however dislike the stream shapes a lot, they seem very crooked where straight lines or nice curves would fit a lot better imo many people are bringing this up, I will consider this
00:29:051 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - and 00:30:974 (1,2,3,4,5) - specifically, they are almost straight lines and i think it'd look better if they were such. same
00:33:667 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - i dont understand why you chose to change the spacing here as well, ther is no change in intensity anymore. 00:34:051 (5,6,7,8,9) - adapt those to the first part of the stream new note on (5)
00:34:917 (1,2) - low spacing all of a sudden when 00:34:628 (1,2) - is the same sound? either have both close or both almost stacked. we'll see, many people are bringing this up (even though I have it for playability)
00:35:397 (4) - ctrl g nah
00:37:224 (2,3,4,5) - either adapt those to the spacing of 00:37:705 (6,7,8,9) - or vice versa. literally no need, the only thing it actually does is making people with OCD more happy about playing the map
00:40:013 (1,2) - very very strange flow and radical jump distance out of nowhere. tone this down toned down a bit
00:44:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - same as above, ridiculous spike in difficulty in a relatively tame part of the song, a normal stream should easily do here. this pattern is piss easy
00:45:013 (2,3) - inconsistent spacing with 00:44:821 (1,2) - no reason for them to be consistent
00:52:513 (1,4) - overlap
00:52:513 (1,3) - and again
00:55:782 (2,4) - and again
00:56:743 (5,1) - again, huge spike in difficulty out of nowhere, this is really provoking misses. I will consider lowering this (maybe not even consider, will consider whether to consider it )
01:01:359 (1,3,5) - bad overlap again Like I understand my other overlap inconstitencies, but this? THE AMOUNT OF SPACE ON THE SCREEN IS LIMITED CMOOOON
01:02:321 (5,1) - and again this was moved to an exact spot where another modder asked me to move and I think it's quite fine
01:03:281 - aside that i do not agree with the jump size and the forced difficulty here i have nothing to say other than fix those overlaps, they are everywhere.
01:15:589 - since this is copy paste apply the same things i mentioned before.
01:26:454 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - bad overlap switch 01:26:936 (6,7,8,9) - maybe. I agree with the overlap sentiment and I will fix it by just moving the double a few pixels away, but did you just decide that switching a pattern upon which the entire section of doubles is based is better than having a little overlap? Cmon now

Thank you for your mod, but you seriously have to pay less attention to overlaps, they don't matter as much as you think they do, some I've mapped because I wanted them to be there. Otherwise, it's a great and a big mod and I thank you for your time spent on the entire set.

F D Flourite

811 posts

Joined March 2013

F D Flourite 2016-10-09T16:32:09+00:00

Hi, M4M

[General]

Unused hitsounds:
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normal-hitwhistle2.wav
White Effect02.png is unused. Please remove it.
Absense of hitsound is not rankable. It happens in Easy, Normal and Insane.

[Monarch's Easy]

Not sure why this diff name is inconsistent with others. Any available reason? Or it should be Monarch's Easy Rocks!
00:50:974 (3) - NC starting from here is totally off for 4/1 beats. Generally you make 8/1 beats a NC, but 00:47:897 (1,2,3,4) - takes 12/1 beats. You should rearrange all NC from here.
01:27:897 (3) - Do not set a circle when there is no sound.
01:01:743 (1) - Curve it more? It might look better.

[squirrelp's Normal Rocks!]

00:11:071 (1) - Soft sampleset is better. The spinner end shouldn't be that loud.
00:20:589 (2) - NC
00:24:820 (3) - ^
00:31:551 (2) - Your rhythm is lack of organization. The rhythm before this slider is in some regular pattern. But you just give up here and use another random rhythm pattern. However, 00:32:127 (3) - doesn't sound a very important sound to be. So your rhythm is kinda confusing. Move this slider to 00:31:743 - to keep your pause consistent.
00:35:204 (3,1,2) - ^ same as above. You used to make very long 1/2 patterns like 00:33:281 (2,3,1,2) - with 9/2 beats, however you also make quite short 1/2 patterns like what I've mentioned. Can you give any reason for such imbalance? It is not a good way to make rhythm in taiko at least, unless the music really support it.
01:15:589 - ^ same issue this kiai.
00:44:051 (1,2,3) - Adjust this whole pattern a bit to make the distance between 00:44:051 (1,2) - and 00:43:089 (4,2) - the same? This might benefit your aesthetic design.
00:47:320 - This sound is the only vocal one you missed in this whole diff. So I would suggest you split 00:47:127 (2) - into a 1/2 slider and a circle to keep following all vocal sounds.
00:50:012 (2) - kinda ugly for me because of the very short part after the second turn.
01:27:897 (3) - Do not set a circle when there is no sound.

[xChorse's Hard Rocks!]

00:30:012 (4,5,6,7) - This is fine tho. But I don't like 2 reverse stack because it can be unexpected and confusing. You can probably move 6 to another place so that there is only one reverse stack.
00:34:627 (4) - Why DS is inconsistent here? 1.71x with the previous one while 1.61x with the latter one.
01:25:397 (5,6) - It'd better be organized as you did on 00:36:166 (5,6) -. Because it feels better to me.
00:42:897 (6,1,2) - Even if you don't want to keep DS exactly consistent, I hope 00:43:666 (2) - can be moved leftward for several pixels to keep the distance between slider bodies more even.

[Shiguma's Insane Rocks!]

00:22:512 (4,5) - Any available reason to keep them overlap? You make most 3/4 sliders not overlap in this map but not this one. Or maybe you should just seperate them.
00:26:743 (5,6,7,8) - I'm not satisfied with this distance arrangement. I don't think players can easily recognize 00:27:127 (7) - to be 1-reverse slider or multiple-reverse slider. So 00:27:127 (7,8) - can be easily misregarded as 1/4 jump because of its equal sliderbody distance to 00:26:743 (5,6) - . So I think you should enlarge distance between 7 and 8.
00:34:435 (5,6,7,8) - 00:31:358 (5,6,7,8) - ^
00:37:704 (1,2) - I don't think this jump has to be that large. This is almost the largest 1/2 jump in this diff, while the music here isn't that tense imo.
00:47:897 (1,2,3) - Even the curves are following flow, I hope you can make them more aestheticly. For example, you may make 00:48:281 (2) - straight slider going downward.
01:00:781 (4,6) - They are badly overlapped. I hope you can rearrange the pattern of slider 6 to make them seperated.
01:03:281 (1,4) - ^ Slightly move 4 upward.
01:27:897 (1) - hitsound to soft sampleset

[Extra Rocks!]

I will instantly say that I won't take any stacking/overlap recommendations and spacing at the song's prologue. Overlap/stacking because it is seriously a huge meme by the mappers, when you play, you really don't get screwed by one hitcircle overlapping with GOD FORGIVE ONE HITCIRCLE TWO COMBOS AGO. Regarding spacing at the prologue, the BPM is piss low and I did need some unorthodox spacing to actually make something playable and fun.
Well actually it's hard to say overlap/stack is not important because mappers and modders are seeking for something more than playing. Otherwise why there is difference between modding and testplaying? Overlap/stack even don't affect a lot in general playing, but it provides modders with some basic standards to mod the aesthetic structure of a map: A tidy one, or an unpolished one. Besides, since you are an Easy player, you should know the difference overlaps and stacks may cause.
00:30:974 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The flow here is not good. The flow varies very quickly, and the space is extremely large. At least I hope you can make 00:31:840 (4,5,6,7) - this angle to an obtuse one. The current one is too difficult.
00:35:397 (4,5,6) - This sharp turn hurts me so much. The same advice as above, try to make this flow to obtuse one.
01:20:782 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:24:628 (4,5,6) - ^
00:34:917 (1) - No need to NC here, or you should NC 00:36:455 (3) - too. 00:35:397 (4,1) - The same. Unify the way you NC.
01:23:859 (1,2,1,2,4) - 01:25:397 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^ Same.
00:37:417 (4,5,6,7) - Flow is bad here. 4->5 is a fast downward flow, while 5->6 is a fast upward jump, and 6->7 fast downward flow again. Ctrl+G for 00:37:705 (6,7) - at least. If you do so, you may need to Ctrl+G for 00:37:994 (8,9) - as well.
00:41:936 (1,6) - This touch is so "accidently" and untidy. Seperate them more pls.
00:47:897 (9,1) - swap NC here.
The jumps in your Kiai are so random so I cannot judge them well. But I suggest not leave slider tail 01:12:128 (6) - on stanza because stanza (01:12:512 - the longer white line) generally should be clickable for its heavier beat.

Good Luck~

xChorse

765 posts

Joined December 2012

xChorse 2016-10-09T17:30:03+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
Hi, M4M

[xChorse's Hard Rocks!]
00:30:012 (4,5,6,7) - This is fine tho. But I don't like 2 reverse stack because it can be unexpected and confusing. You can probably move 6 to another place so that there is only one reverse stack. Using stacks as gimmicks, it's not unrankable and I'd like it if people stopped mentioning them unless they are unrankable :/
00:34:627 (4) - Why DS is inconsistent here? 1.71x with the previous one while 1.61x with the latter one. Fixed
01:25:397 (5,6) - It'd better be organized as you did on 00:36:166 (5,6) -. Because it feels better to me. Done
00:42:897 (6,1,2) - Even if you don't want to keep DS exactly consistent, I hope 00:43:666 (2) - can be moved leftward for several pixels to keep the distance between slider bodies more even. This part is done by focusing the distance between the sliderheads and not the sliderends
Good Luck~

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Haganenno

247 posts

Joined July 2014

Topic Starter

Haganenno 2016-10-09T17:48:42+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
[Extra Rocks!]
I will instantly say that I won't take any stacking/overlap recommendations and spacing at the song's prologue. Overlap/stacking because it is seriously a huge meme by the mappers, when you play, you really don't get screwed by one hitcircle overlapping with GOD FORGIVE ONE HITCIRCLE TWO COMBOS AGO. Regarding spacing at the prologue, the BPM is piss low and I did need some unorthodox spacing to actually make something playable and fun.
Well actually it's hard to say overlap/stack is not important because mappers and modders are seeking for something more than playing. Otherwise why there is difference between modding and testplaying? Overlap/stack even don't affect a lot in general playing, but it provides modders with some basic standards to mod the aesthetic structure of a map: A tidy one, or an unpolished one. Besides, since you are an Easy player, you should know the difference overlaps and stacks may cause. ye, I can FC this map sightread EZ though...
00:30:974 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The flow here is not good. The flow varies very quickly, and the space is extremely large. At least I hope you can make 00:31:840 (4,5,6,7) - this angle to an obtuse one. The current one is too difficult. I will try to catch you ingame sometime so you could explain this in detail, as I don't understand it fully/don't know how to change
00:35:397 (4,5,6) - This sharp turn hurts me so much. The same advice as above, try to make this flow to obtuse one. tbh I find this one of the better parts of my map, feels fun to play while lowering the difficulty for a while
01:20:782 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 01:24:628 (4,5,6) - ^
00:34:917 (1) - No need to NC here, or you should NC 00:36:455 (3) - too. 00:35:397 (4,1) - The same. Unify the way you NC. tried to structure my NCs around those parts, hope it's better now!
01:23:859 (1,2,1,2,4) - 01:25:397 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^ Same.
00:37:417 (4,5,6,7) - Flow is bad here. 4->5 is a fast downward flow, while 5->6 is a fast upward jump, and 6->7 fast downward flow again. Ctrl+G for 00:37:705 (6,7) - at least. If you do so, you may need to Ctrl+G for 00:37:994 (8,9) - as well. intended. It's extremely rewarding to read that IMO. BPM is low so I have to make hardest parts weird or they won't feel hard in contrast to, let's say, the chorus or something.
00:41:936 (1,6) - This touch is so "accidently" and untidy. Seperate them more pls. this simple pattern is a bane of my existance, I never get it right. Will try again!
00:47:897 (9,1) - swap NC here. ok
The jumps in your Kiai are so random so I cannot judge them well. But I suggest not leave slider tail 01:12:128 (6) - on stanza because stanza (01:12:512 - the longer white line) generally should be clickable for its heavier beat. I will explore the options and see what I can do regarding this, as you're the second modder who brings this up
Good Luck~

Thank you for your mod, it was a very good quality one, even if I don't agree with you on some specifics, I appreciate that you argument your opinion. I hope more modders will follow your example!

Regarding hitsounds etc, I might want to do a storyboard flash and the hitsounds are also for possible Easy, Normal and Insane hitsounding

Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2016-10-09T18:50:11+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
Hi, M4M Hi

[General]
Unused hitsounds:
normal-hitclap2.wav
normal-hitfinish2.wav
normal-hitwhistle2.wav
White Effect02.png is unused. Please remove it.
Absense of hitsound is not rankable. It happens in Easy, Normal and Insane. The 2nd set of hitsounds is actually for me, the abscense is cuz I was being slow to hitsound.
[Shiguma's Insane Rocks!]
00:22:512 (4,5) - Any available reason to keep them overlap? You make most 3/4 sliders not overlap in this map but not this one. Or maybe you should just seperate them. Good point, fixed.
00:26:743 (5,6,7,8) - I'm not satisfied with this distance arrangement. I don't think players can easily recognize 00:27:127 (7) - to be 1-reverse slider or multiple-reverse slider. So 00:27:127 (7,8) - can be easily misregarded as 1/4 jump because of its equal sliderbody distance to 00:26:743 (5,6) - . So I think you should enlarge distance between 7 and 8. Although I didn't agree particularly with your reasoning, I did increase the spacing
00:34:435 (5,6,7,8) - dont think so 00:31:358 (5,6,7,8) - ^ okay
00:37:704 (1,2) - I don't think this jump has to be that large. This is almost the largest 1/2 jump in this diff, while the music here isn't that tense imo. Nerfed
00:47:897 (1,2,3) - Even the curves are following flow, I hope you can make them more aestheticly. For example, you may make 00:48:281 (2) - straight slider going downward. qq
01:00:781 (4,6) - They are badly overlapped. I hope you can rearrange the pattern of slider 6 to make them seperated.or just change the slider path xd
01:03:281 (1,4) - ^ Slightly move 4 upward. yee
01:27:897 (1) - hitsound to soft sampleset indeed
Good Luck~ Thanks! good mod

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Akali

639 posts

Joined November 2012

Akali 2016-10-15T09:27:21+00:00

Deja vu, I've heard this song before

m4m

bunch of unused stuff, mentioned in other mod I guess

Monarch's Easy

01:03:281 (1) - probably shouldn't matter, but if you ctrl+g you can see sliderend is offgrid, just fix for safety

squirellpants normal

00:50:012 (2) - ugly, just make it regular like before

01:01:743 (1) - same, symmetrical better

01:27:897 (3) - delete, nothing here for a circle, it's just delay/chorus playing out

SV feels slightly too fast for a normal and some sliders are weird, but should be fine

Horse's Hard ock

00:44:051 (3,4) - I think you can safely put double arrow here, could somehow blanket 4 into 3 as well

00:56:935 (5,1) - could make a triple, very audible

shiguma's insane

would go ar 8,8 on this

00:17:416 (2,3) - imo either blanket well or don't at all, looks off this way, if you don't want blanket rotate 00:17:416 (2) - cw

00:20:397 (2,3) - kinda random to switch from using 1/2 sliders here and then using them again 00:21:743 (1,2,3) - maybe use 1/4s in the second instance as well 00:21:743 (1,2,3) - also has visibly lower spacing than previous combos even though the song builds up, kinda weird

00:24:051 (4) - weird direction/attack angle into this slider, could be circles like before anyway

00:36:935 (1,1) - not a big fan of this, but dunno how to change so you can keep 1/8, but consider removing. Doesn't appear anywhere else on the map, not worth imo

01:12:127 (4) - ctrl+G, kinda awkward, 01:12:512 (1,2) - rearrange if done so

01:26:358 (1,2,3,1,2) - don't like mixing different rhythms here using same sliders, playable but feels weird, maybe 01:26:358 (1,2,3) - just make a quint if you don't want doubles

Visuals and design aren't very appealing here. Stream curves into sliders like 00:26:358 (1,2,3,4,5) - or 00:37:127 (1,2,3,4,5) - doesn't look very neat, 00:32:897 (5) - crooked sliders like this, I feel like they look way better with red point exactly in the middle, inconsistent slider curves on sliders with similar function 00:47:897 (1,3) - etc etc, could work on it, has good enough playability though

Extra

00:14:244 (1,2,3,4,5) - kinda weird to map as normal stream considering the accents, + you skip 00:14:724 - sound anyway which has similar impact like others, would map as http://puu.sh/rJC5V.jpg

00:15:589 - wouldn't skip

00:15:782 (1,2,3,4,5) - like before

00:17:321 (1,2,3,4,5) - same

00:18:667 (1) - is fine, but would rather see 2 sliders with 1/2 gap on extra so more tapping for player

00:20:397 (1,2,3,4,5) - might keep the stream to imply a build up and more clicking going with that, but at least 00:20:782 (5) - 1/4 slider

00:21:743 - awkward skip

00:21:936 (1,2,3,4,5) - inconsistent with previous instances of this

00:22:513 (6) - map like 00:16:359 (6,1) - or 3/4 slider + note on 00:22:897 -

00:23:474 (2,3,4,5,6) - random fully vertical orientation, not very appealing, sort of fits incoming sliders but eh

OK this next whole section I think you messed up spacings a bit, map is short enough that you don't have to force variety with that and should just follow the chord progression of the song regarding spacing/intensity

00:26:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this has consistent spacing and it's good, goes well with the song, reducing it a bit on last 4 notes is a nice touch

00:26:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this however is the same sequence repeated and you use different spacings for it, should keep it consistent, pick one and stick to it

This also brought you trouble with next pitch increase, as you end up with this 00:32:512 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - very high spacing and you are forced to lower it (extremely) on 00:33:667 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - just so the difficulty doesn't blow out of proportions. If you keep consistent and lower ds for previous section, you can use a little bit smaller spacing for this as well and map longer streams using it.

I suggest 1 for first section, 1,2 or 1,3 for second and 1,6 for the third one (could use 1/4 slider jumps more in here as well), then the pitch decreases so probably use DS accordingly

On top of that, not a big fan of curves and design, for example 00:30:013 (1,2,3,4,5) - either make it straight or have the curve be significant. also it goes through 00:30:974 (1,2,3,4,5) - rather randomly, keep previously used patterns in mind when chosing directions.

00:31:936 (5,6,7) - doesn't play that bad on this bpm but kinda weak choice musically, but imo you should remap this whole stanza anyway

00:34:628 (1,2,3,4) - different doubles why?

00:40:013 (1,2,3,4,5) - would focus on guitar and drums over echoing vocals, + some 1/4s going on here

00:44:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - tasty double-quad jumpstream could be better, if you don't want it change 00:44:436 (4,5,6) - random shape and ugly idk

00:44:821 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - could increase spacing in this section + 00:47:513 (5,6,7,8,1) - more spread

00:50:204 - weird note skip

00:50:397 (1,2,3) - feint ghostnote/bass?, 1/4 repeat slider if anything, too weak for a triple

00:56:167 (3,4) - meh angle, too wide + 00:55:782 (2,4) - overlap

00:56:743 (5) - don't like ignoring drums

01:07:705 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - could map 1/4s here for variety/fun especially 01:09:051 (11) -

01:15:590 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - same stuff like before

gl

xChorse

765 posts

Joined December 2012

xChorse 2016-10-15T14:35:03+00:00

Akali wrote:
Deja vu, I've heard this song before

Horse's Hard ock

00:44:051 (3,4) - I think you can safely put double arrow here, could somehow blanket 4 into 3 as well Want same spacing on 00:44:051 (3,4,1) - instead of that one, also for consistency as a mod before said

00:56:935 (5,1) - could make a triple, very audible Keeping for consistency same as ^

gl

no change thanks xd

Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2016-10-16T01:34:30+00:00

Akali wrote:
shiguma's insane

would go ar 8,8 on this I think ar9 is okay

00:17:416 (2,3) - imo either blanket well or don't at all, looks off this way, if you don't want blanket rotate 00:17:416 (2) - cw fixed

00:20:397 (2,3) - kinda random to switch from using 1/2 sliders here and then using them again 00:21:743 (1,2,3) - maybe use 1/4s in the second instance as well 00:21:743 (1,2,3) - also has visibly lower spacing than previous combos even though the song builds up, kinda weird all fixed

00:24:051 (4) - weird direction/attack angle into this slider, could be circles like before anyway fixed

00:36:935 (1,1) - not a big fan of this, but dunno how to change so you can keep 1/8, but consider removing. Doesn't appear anywhere else on the map, not worth imo added more buffer by removing one of the repeats

01:12:127 (4) - ctrl+G, kinda awkward, 01:12:512 (1,2) - rearrange if done so is okay i think

01:26:358 (1,2,3,1,2) - don't like mixing different rhythms here using same sliders, playable but feels weird, maybe 01:26:358 (1,2,3) - just make a quint if you don't want doubles did stuff

Visuals and design aren't very appealing here. Stream curves into sliders like 00:26:358 (1,2,3,4,5) - or 00:37:127 (1,2,3,4,5) - doesn't look very neat, 00:32:897 (5) - crooked sliders like this, I feel like they look way better with red point exactly in the middle, inconsistent slider curves on sliders with similar function 00:47:897 (1,3) - etc etc, could work on it, has good enough playability though if its playable then minor aesthetic issues like that aren't a big deal. if people point out specific ones i will be happy to fix them though

Thanks for mod!

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Haganenno

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Haganenno 2016-10-16T17:01:47+00:00

Akali wrote:
Deja vu, I've heard this song before

m4m

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00:14:244 (1,2,3,4,5) - kinda weird to map as normal stream considering the accents, + you skip 00:14:724 - sound anyway which has similar impact like others, would map as http://puu.sh/rJC5V.jpg I map 00:14:436 (3) - simply because it is the beginning of the map and I want to keep things simple and perhaps I am deaf, but I can't hear anything on 00:14:724 - I believe it's just echo and not an actual attack

00:15:589 - wouldn't skip I had quick round sliders to map these beats, but a few modders said that they don't fit, I will think about it

00:15:782 (1,2,3,4,5) - like before

00:17:321 (1,2,3,4,5) - same

00:18:667 (1) - is fine, but would rather see 2 sliders with 1/2 gap on extra so more tapping for player will STRONGLY consider this

00:20:397 (1,2,3,4,5) - might keep the stream to imply a build up and more clicking going with that, but at least 00:20:782 (5) - 1/4 slider it is extremely optional and I like my option better

00:21:743 - awkward skip ye as I said

00:21:936 (1,2,3,4,5) - inconsistent with previous instances of this other instances feel much more continuous to me for some reason, much more moving, this feels like a definite 1/4 pause

00:22:513 (6) - map like 00:16:359 (6,1) - or 3/4 slider + note on 00:22:897 - eeh it feels more fun this way IMO and this part is stronger than other instances so it needs something stronger

00:23:474 (2,3,4,5,6) - random fully vertical orientation, not very appealing, sort of fits incoming sliders but eh I find it fun tbh, with limited possibilities in the beginning of the song I tried to force, it turned out great IMO

OK this next whole section I think you messed up spacings a bit, map is short enough that you don't have to force variety with that and should just follow the chord progression of the song regarding spacing/intensity

00:26:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this has consistent spacing and it's good, goes well with the song, reducing it a bit on last 4 notes is a nice touch

00:26:359 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - this however is the same sequence repeated and you use different spacings for it, should keep it consistent, pick one and stick to it MESSED UP CTRL+C?

This also brought you trouble with next pitch increase, as you end up with this 00:32:512 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - very high spacing and you are forced to lower it (extremely) on 00:33:667 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - just so the difficulty doesn't blow out of proportions. If you keep consistent and lower ds for previous section, you can use a little bit smaller spacing for this as well and map longer streams using it. I agree and will lower the spacing of the first stream, won't change the second stream mentioned though

I suggest 1 for first section, 1,2 or 1,3 for second and 1,6 for the third one (could use 1/4 slider jumps more in here as well), then the pitch decreases so probably use DS accordingly will message you regarding this because you messed up the ctrl+v I think

On top of that, not a big fan of curves and design, for example 00:30:013 (1,2,3,4,5) - either make it straight or have the curve be significant. also it goes through 00:30:974 (1,2,3,4,5) - rather randomly, keep previously used patterns in mind when chosing directions. I will fix it tomorrow

00:31:936 (5,6,7) - doesn't play that bad on this bpm but kinda weak choice musically, but imo you should remap this whole stanza anyway I find it a good finisher for this part

00:34:628 (1,2,3,4) - different doubles why? playability, feels overall good IMO

00:40:013 (1,2,3,4,5) - would focus on guitar and drums over echoing vocals, + some 1/4s going on here honestly, I cannot even hear em properly, they are inaudible, even when listening with 0% effect volume. And if it is unaudible and you have to strain your ear to hear it, it's better not to map it

00:44:051 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - tasty double-quad jumpstream could be better I dislike jumpstreams and it doesn't fit the song design IMO, this doesn't either, but at least this is easily played, if you don't want it change 00:44:436 (4,5,6) - random shape and ugly idk will ask you in PM about what you think how I can change it for the better

00:44:821 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - could increase spacing in this section + 00:47:513 (5,6,7,8,1) - more spread spacing used to be huge and I hated it.

00:50:204 - weird note skip fixed

00:50:397 (1,2,3) - feint ghostnote/bass?, 1/4 repeat slider if anything, too weak for a triple I would've changed it, but since I will map 00:50:204 - this, the triple will be easy and ordinary

00:56:167 (3,4) - meh angle, too wide + 00:55:782 (2,4) - overlap fixed

00:56:743 (5) - don't like ignoring drumsvocals > barely audible weird drum section

01:07:705 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - could map 1/4s here for variety/fun especially 01:09:051 (11) - eeh maybe for two parts, will ask you about it.

01:15:590 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2) - same stuff like before

gl thanks!

Will M4M tomorrow

thank you for the mod

Shiguma

476 posts

Joined May 2014

Shiguma 2016-10-22T20:08:14+00:00

Monarch's Easy

00:19:435 (4,1) - Over here it's stacked, but over here you give it distance 00:24:820 (3,4,1). I think that 00:19:435 (4,1) - should be rearranged so the 1 is not stacked on (4)
00:32:512 (1,2) - Copy paste for (2)?
00:38:666 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I don't get it, why these 2/1 squares that repeat? I feel like sliders would be better
00:57:127 (1,3) - ew
01:20:204 (2,1) - ^
01:24:820 (1,2) - These aren't parallel

Nice Beginner diff, I think you should remove the "Easy" part from the diffname though because it's too long as-is

squirrelp's Normal (modded now)

~~To be coming~~

00:17:127 (1,2) - could be blanketed better
00:18:666 (1,1) - The rhythm here sounds odd to me. Maybe remove the reverse on 00:18:666 (1) - and put a clickable object where the slidertail is? or something like this perhaps https://puu.sh/rT3iA/bede409b17.png idk really but as is it sounds weird
00:37:897 (2) - Wanna hear a funny story? 00:37:801 (2) - https://puu.sh/rT46e/d6135c6ef8.png :OOOOO
00:51:551 (3,4) - 00:51:551 (3) - Feel like this should be a reverse and then a circle at 00:52:127 - instead
01:13:858 (1,2) - Seems out of place in rhythm compared to what you were doing before
01:26:935 (2) - Needs to be more hype a reverse slider like this makes me want to stop dancing :^)

xChorse's Hard

These hitsounds...

The triples into the 1/2 slider during the kiai sound wrong imo, really odd rhythm choice, I'd go as far as to say remap those two kiais

00:33:281 (5) - ctrl + h for better aesthetic
00:42:897 (6,1,2) - Make symmetrical?
01:24:435 (5,1,2,3) - Stack 01:24:435 (5) - with 01:24:820 (1) - because you have it stacked with (3) right now and I think it looks bad
00:27:512 (6,1,2,3) - Same here ^
00:35:589 (1,2,3,4,5) - Aesthetically this one looks good tho
01:27:704 (7) - this looks weird in the 01:26:935 (4,5,6,7) - pattern

00:38:666 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - Why only fucking finishes, and why are finishes being overused in the entire diff anyway (sorry for cursing but yeah the finishes seem waaaay overdone to me)

Extra

00:16:359 (6,1) - You fucked up the silence you wanted to put on the slidertail, also move 00:16:744 (1) - one pixel down and one pixel to the right
00:17:897 (6,7,8,9) - These jumps could be done better, the 00:18:474 (9) - especially seems random
00:18:667 (1) - I think it would be better if the sliderhead was stacked on one of those jumps right before it
00:20:686 (4,5,7) - Ahh why are these touching
00:22:513 (6) - slidertail should be clickable imo, maybe like this: https://puu.sh/rRUoe/8437acfcd6.png
00:23:858 (6) - Remove this curve.
00:26:936 (6,7,3,4,5,6,7) - Stack these properly
00:30:396 (5,3) - ^ Same, idk why you didn't put them on top of each other
00:30:782 (7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - If this is some aesthetic choice, I highly recommend not doing it because you don't perfectly stack those, but then you do for things like 00:31:647 (2,8) - so make up your mind
00:33:089 (6,7,8,9) - Reangle these so 00:32:512 (1,6) - these aren't so close, and so that 00:32:704 (3,8) - stack on each other in some way
00:33:667 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This could be more aesthetically pleasing
00:34:917 (3,4) - I think this was an accident, none of the other doubles seem to be like this
00:37:224 (2,3,4,5) - Not a perfect square
00:37:801 (2,1) - Stack
00:38:474 (2,2) - This looks quite nice actually
00:40:012 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why is 00:40:012 (1) - the only one that is not curved
00:44:821 (1,2,3) - This spacing doesn't make sense to me, since the 00:45:205 (3) - is the strong one, yet (2) is getting the emphasis in spacing and the jump to (3) is smaller
00:45:590 (4,5,6,1) - Poorly implemented circular flow imo
00:47:128 (4) - Should be ctrl + g and moved accordingly (subsequent notes too)
00:49:436 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think a star would be better than what you did here
00:50:494 (6) - Could be deleted I think
~~Because of 00:50:974 (1,2) - I expect to go to the right for 00:51:744 (3,4) - not down like you have it. An idea is to 00:51:936 (4,6) - ctrl +g these and fixing the rest, but idk~~ I guess it's fine but I would line up 00:51:359 (2,3,4) -
00:54:821 (5,6) - WHAT why so low spacing
00:56:167 (3,4,5) - Bad flow from 3 to 4 I think, 00:56:743 (5) - why is this ending on the blue tick when sound ends on red?
00:59:051 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1) - .... No reason to go to soft hitsounds out of nowhere fam
01:02:321 (5,1) - Fam it's right there waiting for you why do you not use this: https://puu.sh/rRZJU/0fe7c0fa28.png hoyl shite
01:03:858 (4,5,6) - This could work so much better if you design it around 5 being in the center
01:05:205 (1,2,3) - It doesn't make sense to go back and with less spacing for this, and then this 01:05:589 (3,4) - massive jump, the emphasis is done wrong I would just redo 01:05:205 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this part entirely
01:06:935 (3) - whistle on the whole slider, bad
01:07:513 (4,5) - 5 should be higher than 4 not lower, 01:07:897 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - these jumps are bad imo as well
01:16:167 (6,7,8,9,10) - 01:16:455 (9,10) - xd
Nice copy paste, now I don't have the mod the final kiai
01:26:935 (1,2,3,4) - Repeating myself but these should be same distance

Diff feels like you made it random on purpose to avoid having to use proper structure

Last edited by Shiguma 2016-10-23T20:32:02+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Monarch

213 posts

Joined July 2014

Monarch 2016-10-22T20:59:02+00:00

Shiguma wrote:
Monarch's Easy
00:19:435 (4,1) - Over here it's stacked, but over here you give it distance 00:24:820 (3,4,1). I think that 00:19:435 (4,1) - should be rearranged so the 1 is not stacked on (4) different intensities so they aren't comparable
00:32:512 (1,2) - Copy paste for (2)? done
00:38:666 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I don't get it, why these 2/1 squares that repeat? I feel like sliders would be better I dont feel as though it would amke a difference, these are easier to play
00:57:127 (1,3) - ew they're not touching so its not gay
01:20:204 (2,1) - ^
01:24:820 (1,2) - These aren't parallel fixed

Nice Beginner diff, I think you should remove the "Easy" part from the diffname though because it's too long as-is changed diffname

squirrelpascals

982 posts

Joined March 2015

squirrelpascals 2016-10-23T06:35:07+00:00

TAKES DEEP BREATH

Louis Cyphre wrote:
[squirrelp's Normal Rocks!]
AR+1 +.5
00:52:219 (2,3,1,2) - 2007 I think there was an error in this hl or smth, just random note placement
00:56:642 (2) - please no ._. make just a simple wave instead This is a circle on my screen
01:05:104 (3) - em...? Nothing wrong with this, its just an angled slider?

viptwo wrote:
Hi

[squirrel]

00:31:551 (2) - redtick 1/2 No, fits music fine
00:34:627 (2) - again, i dont think i need to explain why this is bad. This isn't bad?
00:37:704 (2) - ^
00:51:551 (3,4) - ^
01:03:858 (2) - ^
01:09:435 (1,2) - ^
01:19:243 (2) - ^
01:20:781 (2) - ^
01:22:320 (2) - ^ Sorry

Well you could just leave them in if you like, this diff isnt a normal anyways and i am afraif this set will need another difficulty between Easy and "Normal"
I see that the BPM is fairly low but even then a Normal should not contain frequent 1/2 in sliders AND circles. Rename this to Advanced or something and make a proper Normal.

Normals can have 1/2. A general snapping rule for difficulty spreads that you should notice: Easy = 1/1, Normal = 1/2, Hard = Occasional 1/4 sometimes 1/3, Insane = 1/4 + 1/3, Extra+ = all of the above. It can change for more rhythmically complex songs / higher bpm but this low bpm makes this sort of rhythm okay for a normal.

F D Flourite wrote:
Hi, M4M

[squirrelp's Normal Rocks!]
00:11:071 (1) - Soft sampleset is better. The spinner end shouldn't be that loud. I agree, silenced that spinner end
00:20:589 (2) - NC Agree also
00:24:820 (3) - ^ Okay
00:31:551 (2) - Your rhythm is lack of organization. The rhythm before this slider is in some regular pattern. But you just give up here and use another random rhythm pattern. However, 00:32:127 (3) - doesn't sound a very important sound to be. So your rhythm is kinda confusing. Move this slider to 00:31:743 - to keep your pause consistent.As for the rhythm, rhythmically complex =/= random. If you haven't noticed, i use a consistent pattern of repeats vs. singular sliders and consistent breaks as well And yeah I changed the pauses. I had them conistent before, but I changed to try and confiscate for rhythm. I agree that consistency is more important in Normal.
00:35:204 (3,1,2) - ^ same as above. You used to make very long 1/2 patterns like 00:33:281 (2,3,1,2) - with 9/2 beats, however you also make quite short 1/2 patterns like what I've mentioned. Can you give any reason for such imbalance? It is not a good way to make rhythm in taiko at least, unless the music really support it. Why do you mention an entirley different gamemode? You act like I randomly use 1/2 sliders and repeats to my liking, see my comment above
01:15:589 - ^ same issue this kiai. Sorry
00:44:051 (1,2,3) - Adjust this whole pattern a bit to make the distance between 00:44:051 (1,2) - and 00:43:089 (4,2) - the same? This might benefit your aesthetic design. Sure
00:47:320 - This sound is the only vocal one you missed in this whole diff. So I would suggest you split 00:47:127 (2) - into a 1/2 slider and a circle to keep following all vocal sounds. I agree, changed
00:50:012 (2) - kinda ugly for me because of the very short part after the second turn. Eh, I like this
01:27:897 (3) - Do not set a circle when there is no sound. Blame that on hagen. He trimmed that beat from the mp3 :< Fixed
Good Luck~

Akali wrote:
Deja vu, I've heard this song before

squirellpants normal nice

00:50:012 (2) - ugly, just make it regular like before |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

01:01:743 (1) - same, symmetrical better ^^

01:27:897 (3) - delete, nothing here for a circle, it's just delay/chorus playing out Done, blame Hagen

SV feels slightly too fast for a normal and some sliders are weird, but should be fine tis fine

gl

Shiguma wrote:
squirrelp's Normal
To be coming ono

GASP. I suppose I should hitsound now

So i hitsounded and I accidentally used the drum samples the entire time LOL. It sounds okay I suppose

back to the mods, back to the mods. babay

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