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Just waiting on BN's who said they'd check this.chainpullz wrote:
Hasn't met the Fetish quota of bg changes. I'm sure that's what is keeping it from being ranked already. :^)
I think the reason why those 2 maps are put together is because BNL is made off Remilia's theme while TE is Flandre's, made by the same circle, and I'm not sure but I think they are from the same album as well, so that would be some kind of Scarlet Sisters undead corp mapTheOnlyLeon wrote:
Also before I start, this had nothing to do with the quality of the map, but I really don't like the fact that these two songs were just taped together to meet approved length requirements, at least with mazzerin's Deceit/Violation set (Which I have no doubt would be referenced to this point) went together because in the album they were from they were seamlessly matched up, hell I'm pretty sure most people don't realize that on the album versions the slow buildup is part of the deceit, the violation doesn't technically start until a minute after the deceit finishes.
Unlike those two songs, these are just similar in tone, and they have the excuse of being made by the same artist, but this just feels like someones compilation as a result, they don't even flow into each other, one ends, there's a hard stop, and the second song fades in. Frankly it feels more disjointed that the Unforgiving.
Should be noted that the songs do indeed follow each other on the album as wellAyanokoRin wrote:
I think the reason why those 2 maps are put together is because BNL is made off Remilia's theme while TE is Flandre's, made by the same circle, and I'm not sure but I think they are from the same album as well, so that would be some kind of Scarlet Sisters undead corp mapTheOnlyLeon wrote:
Also before I start, this had nothing to do with the quality of the map, but I really don't like the fact that these two songs were just taped together to meet approved length requirements, at least with mazzerin's Deceit/Violation set (Which I have no doubt would be referenced to this point) went together because in the album they were from they were seamlessly matched up, hell I'm pretty sure most people don't realize that on the album versions the slow buildup is part of the deceit, the violation doesn't technically start until a minute after the deceit finishes.
Unlike those two songs, these are just similar in tone, and they have the excuse of being made by the same artist, but this just feels like someones compilation as a result, they don't even flow into each other, one ends, there's a hard stop, and the second song fades in. Frankly it feels more disjointed that the Unforgiving.
TheOnlyLeon wrote:
Alright, I may not be a BN, but I just took a look at this map cause someone mentioned it to me since I was looking at flowering night fever recently, and I feel like I have some things I could say about the map, maybe this could help, maybe not, but I think I'm allowed to put my word in. Additionally I'm kinda pressed for time making this, so I'm just gonna mark a few things that really stand out to me, this isn't in depth.
Also before I start, this had nothing to do with the quality of the map, but I really don't like the fact that these two songs were just taped together to meet approved length requirements, at least with mazzerin's Deceit/Violation set (Which I have no doubt would be referenced to this point) went together because in the album they were from they were seamlessly matched up, hell I'm pretty sure most people don't realize that on the album versions the slow buildup is part of the deceit, the violation doesn't technically start until a minute after the deceit finishes.
Unlike those two songs, these are just similar in tone, and they have the excuse of being made by the same artist, but this just feels like someones compilation as a result, they don't even flow into each other, one ends, there's a hard stop, and the second song fades in. Frankly it feels more disjointed that the Unforgiving.
Anyways I just wanted to make that point while it was relevant, since I somehow don't see you making two entire sets to get this one map ranked.
02:06:730 - (1) The stream that starts right here. This segment is mapped to the bass drum track, which wouldn't be a problem, if it wasn't so beaten down by the non synchronized guitar, which is not only way louder and melodically dominant, but frankly the bass track here quiets down so much so that the hitsounds are louder than the song itself, making this stream look and feel completely fabricated just so that this part of the song would be faster, since slower rhythms wouldn't facilitate a really high SR. I get that it's both easier to map and gives you a higher SR, but it doesn't fit the song well, at all, and it looks like something that was just thrown in to increase SR as much as possible. - Actually I was following guitar for this, but since its such a mess Ive opted to simplify it by mapping it as straight 1/4 which is actually easier, if you really think one tiny little stream like this is mapped purely to boost the SR then I dunno what to say.
02:25:397 - (1-7,1-7) I can't help but hear the lighter rhythm here which is triplets that start on the last note of each of your triplets, and frankly I even went to turn off effects to make sure this wasn't a strange laggy hitsound you had, but it is part of the song, and it's didn't vanish when I turned off hitsounds. I just find this really bizarre and it makes it seem like these are constantly desync'd from the song since it sounds like the triple should start as it ends? Either way even without the song's treble going against the rhythm it's still awkwardly laid out. Just a generally frustrating rhythm. - Honestly they sound fine to me as is. Ive tried slowing it down and other stuff but I cant hear the triples starting elsewhere. There are other cymbals that sit with the other drum beats that Ive represented with a slider, so they might just sound mashed together with those.
06:51:013 - (1-6,1-6) Lastly, I know the bpm is lowered, but this stream is so spaced that it looks 8-bit, and as far as the song is concerned this is a pretty relaxed stream, I don't see why this is magically the most spaced stream in the map considering most of them are more intense, even the general streams during the bulk of the song are pretty well equal. It was originally 1/4. Someone pointed out 1/3 would be better, and suggested I space it this much so players dont mistake it for a 1/4. Im happy to change it if more people agree.
On a whole the map's alright for what it is, but even on first sight those three parts really threw me off, Also I really dislike the way the song was built on two similar-ish songs (Frankly other than artist and touhou I don't really see the similarities up front) and it wasn't even edited together in an interesting way, it's like you just stapled two short essay's together to meet the word minimum for both -_-.
Finally, I only spent a little under an hour going over this, and pretty well found these point just off thumbing through the map on auto, and frankly using editor proved me right, so considering that I could find three arguable issues, two of which involving the base rhythm of the song, I'm confident there is much more to be done if you actually break it down.
MrSergio wrote:
Unused hitsounds:
drum-hitfinish3.wav
drum-hitfinish5.wav
drum-hitfinish7.wav
The rest looks fine for me.
Just wait for the haters to come and ruin the fun.Idealism wrote:
oHHHHH MY GOD IS THIS GONNA DETHRONE APPARITION
FIND OUT IN A FEW WEEKS
I honestly hope this makes it, it's a fun map. Good luck and let's hope no drama happens with this one. \:D/EphemeralFetish wrote:
Just wait for the haters to come and ruin the fun.Idealism wrote:
oHHHHH MY GOD IS THIS GONNA DETHRONE APPARITION
FIND OUT IN A FEW WEEKS
Bloodthirsty Nightmare Lullaby is an arrange of Remilia Scarlet's theme, and The Empress is an arrange of Flandre Scarlet's. Remi is Flan's older sister. Also they're next to each other in the albumMonstrata wrote:
Not that it's unrankable but, is there a relationship between these two songs aside from being by Undead Corporation and part of Touhou Project?
do i need to start debating this here too lol?Pelzio wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/395739 is this not the same scenario or am i missing something
I mean they're 2 songs directly after each other in the album and relate to each other, what more do you want?Monstrata wrote:
Are they the only songs in the album? xD
Seems like two songs are being arbitrarily put together to make a mapset that's over 5 minutes, thus allowing both songs to be approved without needing a set. Not that i'm against it or anything though, because if people are fine with this, I'm totally going to do this in the future.
Kyshiro already did it with https://osu.ppy.sh/s/346740 , so I don't think its' that problematic.Monstrata wrote:
Are they the only songs in the album? xD
Seems like two songs are being arbitrarily put together to make a mapset that's over 5 minutes, thus allowing both songs to be approved without needing a set. Not that i'm against it or anything though, because if people are fine with this, I'm totally going to do this in the future.
Zero__wind wrote:
questionable 1/6 notes:
00:15:397 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 1/4 with some 1/8 imo - Its a pure 1/6th drum roll.
02:44:057 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ - Same here.
02:06:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - probably 1/2- This is a mix of 1/4 and 1/6th. I spoke with a few people about this and we agree that "Overmapping" it to make it more simple and easier to play is the better option.
and questionable 1/4 in the latter part:
06:12:124 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - most seem to be 1/2 with only a small portion of 1/4 - Same here, random mix of 1/3 1/4 and some just random notes. "Overmapped for simplicity.
07:05:236 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - seems overmapping - 1/4 drum roll is pretty clear here.
and questionable 1/3 notes:
06:51:384 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 06:51:458 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - should be 1/2 and I can't really hear the note at 06:51:384 (6) - - Definitely not 1/2 I originally had this as 1/4 and people suggested I use 1/3 instead. I think its just another case of shitty guitar playing thats a total mess and you cant accurately map without it being stupid.
may not be all, but I believe the above should be reconsidered more carefully
You're allowed to have green lines on top of timing points, so its no issue.Spork Lover wrote:
00:10:731 and 02:39:391 - aren't these green points pretty much useless? xd
Also, I'm super hyped about this, good luck with ranking!!