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Arzenvald
wew why dq

03:49:352 (229352|1) - you might want to accent this flute with short ln
03:52:054 (232054|4) - yet this one doesn't really sensible since the last flute is in the white bar https://puu.sh/wyP65/9297055661.png

04:14:973 (254973|3) - you might want to accent another flute at 04:15:298 - in same column
04:20:487 (260487|6) - ^
04:24:379 (264379|1) - ^
04:28:271 (268271|6) - ^

because 04:23:406 (263406|2) - consistency

05:08:649 (308649|5,308811|5) - any reason to make anchor? this one could be spreaded

05:39:946 (339946|5,340109|2,340271|0,340433|4,340595|2,340757|5,340919|3,341082|1,341244|4) - could use 1/4 (or shorter than 1/2) because there's a gap between flute

05:46:919 (346919|5) - pretty sure this flute should be snapped at 05:47:082 -

06:44:757 (404757|5) - u sure with x0.75? the gap between next note a little closer, different than in x1.0 in game field

loved the way you put SV but still those anchors + LNs (and your 123 S 765 style) gives a somehow crampy feeling while playing

requal pls
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AncuL

Arzenvald wrote:

wew why dq

03:49:352 (229352|1) - you might want to accent this flute with short ln it's on the slowjam part so i think it'd be too hard

04:14:973 (254973|3) - you might want to accent another flute at 04:15:298 - in same column eh i think there's no need to do it because the flute sounds like it's extended

05:39:946 (339946|5,340109|2,340271|0,340433|4,340595|2,340757|5,340919|3,341082|1,341244|4) - could use 1/4 (or shorter than 1/2) because there's a gap between flute slowjam part `~` i don't really want to make parts like these so complicated

06:44:757 (404757|5) - u sure with x0.75? the gap between next note a little closer, different than in x1.0 in game field idk man i guess i'll consult to protastic about this

loved the way you put SV but still those anchors + LNs (and your 123 S 765 style) gives a somehow crampy feeling while playing intended lolololololololollolololololololololololololo
thanks <3
Arzenvald
hoo i didn't look at the slowjam, if the SV still above 0.75 applying some flutes would still fairly playable, plus its an insane difficulty map?
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AncuL
I still don't want to make it so complicated :p
Protastic101
re
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AncuL
4th bubble done in the map by protastic
i hope it doesn't go any longer
Maxus
well
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AncuL
06:27:784 -

HOW THE HELL CAN THIS BE HERE
i haven't touched anything at this part
IamKwaN
as per request
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AncuL
fixed. but since protastic doesn't want to care about the map anymore i have to go the longer way
Bonsai

AncuL wrote:

protastic doesn't want to care about the map anymore
weak. no stamina. smh
XeoStyle
REQUALIF THIS ALREADY AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAa thx
Eldergleam
3 times DQ :/
:thonkang:
Rivals_7
01:11:406 - so uhh why the SNs are formed in trill instead of jacking like the pattern after ( - 01:13:352 (73352|5,73514|5,73676|0,73838|0) - ). think you can made it jacked while still maintaining the LN with pitch


01:24:054 (84054|6,84379|1) - was thinking it'd be pcool to 1/2 LNed this for guitar string. + still have the violin(?) tho

01:31:838 (91838|0,92163|5) - ^

07:19:190 (439190|6) - so the violin exist like 1/6 and the guitar string ends on 1/4 so i dont really see why is this getting full 1/1

07:26:973 (446973|6) - ^

:thonk:
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AncuL
I'll apply this later. really didn't look at my emails of these i've fixed all of the issues and made a few tweaks to the patterns around the fixed part. this needs more consistency checks though, especially on the last kiai
Mordu
The Undertakers Daughters instrumental
1) 04:48:541 (288541|6,288541|1) For those sounds I feel you have to emphasize more, add a third note in the same line, for all the sounds like that.
2. For this: 04:52:757 (292757|1,292919|1,292919|3) a similar situation happens, you have to emphasize more, but not adding more notes to both jacks, try this:


Another example: 04:54:703 (294703|2,294865|4,294865|2) - try to add this note for that one 04:54:865 (294865|0) - That can give you an idea of the type of emphasize.

I don't see nothing else wrong, but still, this mod is too short.
No Kudosu.
Mordu
Just to clarify, in point number 1 when I said "all the sounds like that" I referred to the "hits", and also referred you have to check all the map, no only further the examples, for example: on 01:31:514 I feel you have to emphasize more that hit, other example is 01:35:406
I feel the "hits" has to be more emphasized through the map.
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AncuL
lol fuck it i'll just use 3 notes on the trumpet thing at 04:48:054 -

also on your second post, you were mentioning the first kiai, which i don't intent to be very hard because i took the theme of difficulty progression throughout the map. maybe i'll consider it if i find more complains which i won't get because nobody is looking at my map

and kudosu is given because it worths it
Litharrale
hullo 1/5 (checkcount)

my turn for my icons to get destroyed

this'll mostly be a consistency/snap mod since the map looks pre good to me

1|7

00:06:865 (6865|3,6865|2) - idk how I feel about this being two LNs when the sound itself is a single piano note

00:25:352 (25352|4,25392|5,25433|6) - I'm 95% sure this is two notes and not 3 snapped in 1/6 like

It's very different to an actual triplet like 00:40:919 (40919|0,40960|1,41000|2) -

00:26:325 (26325|0,26386|1,26446|2,26446|3) - on a scale of 1-10 how certain are you that this is 1/16?

00:38:973 (38973|3) - this section is sick, having the piano on the left and the percussion on the right is an awesome theme i luv it

00:40:919 (40919|0,40960|1,41000|2) - This is too slow snapwise, 1/12 seems right to me

01:31:352 (91352|2) - Whats the justification for this being so long? It sounds like it should be 1/2 like the ones before it in the same sound pattern (extends to the other examples of this as well)

02:22:109 (142109|5,142163|4) - is a triple snapped to 1/8 like https://i.imgur.com/AEXA7BR.png

02:41:514 (161514|0,161568|1,161568|3) - more than a 2 step here but it's already kinda dense so having this simplification is ok

03:37:027 (217027|1,217190|1) - this jack does not belong. It doesn't fit with the theme. It comes right after the theme. Ree. move 03:37:190 (217190|1) - to 6

05:41:784 (341784|2) - Having this be 1/6 when everything else around for ages is 1/4 is weird, are you 500000000000% sure it's 1/6 and not on the blue tick like 30ms later?

06:52:541 (412541|3,412595|5) - Should be 3 notes

07:33:784 (453784|2,453946|2,454109|1,454271|1) - I dont think these belong as the song lacks that distinct percussion sound here
07:35:730 (455730|6,455892|6,456054|5,456217|5) - here too as well as others. I think the jacks should only be used when that sound appears like here 07:40:595 (460595|6) -

07:54:142 (474142|3,474142|5) - smh big chords only 2 notes smh smh
Topic Starter
AncuL

Litharrale wrote:

00:26:325 (26325|0,26386|1,26446|2,26446|3) - on a scale of 1-10 how certain are you that this is 1/16? 9/10. it's a consistently spaced 1/16 snapping (3/16)
01:31:352 (91352|2) - Whats the justification for this being so long? It sounds like it should be 1/2 like the ones before it in the same sound pattern (extends to the other examples of this as well) it doesn't really need any song-related justifications. it's there to give some uniqueness to the map

02:22:109 (142109|5,142163|4) - is a triple snapped to 1/8 like https://i.imgur.com/AEXA7BR.png changed something but not exactly like this

07:54:142 (474142|3,474142|5) - smh big chords only 2 notes smh smh kinda justified
the rest is changed i think
Litharrale
so this is what it feels like to place an icon thats not a pop
Shmiklak
waoh
Umo-
00:25:406 (25406|6) - shouldn't this be snapped at 00:25:433 - ?
I litearlly dont hear any piano sound at where its snapped right now
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AncuL
I'll check on that with the next bIG mod
Arzenvald
move along w
Arzenvald
IRC
22:29 Arzenvald: 01:07:514 (67514|5) - kira kira click.wav nya bisa dibikin 30% keatas gk, but like semua
22:29 Arzenvald: bell nya juga yg 60% jadi 80%
22:29 Arzenvald: :^)
22:29 *Arzenvald is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/935489 steampianist - The Undertakers Daughter instrumental [Journey]]
22:29 AncuL: owo
22:29 Arzenvald: 01:10:109 (70109|0,70109|4) - soalnya kadang ada yg 2 kyk gini
22:30 AncuL: buat bell sama click kayaknya mending volume samplenya yang digedein
22:30 Arzenvald: bisa pake audacity kan?
22:30 AncuL: bisaa
22:30 AncuL: bisa tolongin nggak? wkwkkw
22:30 Arzenvald: dasar
22:30 AncuL: tambahin 2-3dB
22:30 AncuL: xdd
22:30 Arzenvald: bentar
22:30 Arzenvald: dasar ngerjain
22:31 AncuL: wkwkwk
22:32 Arzenvald: click mah kudu manual
22:32 Arzenvald: soalnya dah lewat 0db
22:32 AncuL: nggak masalah sih kalo plus berapa db
22:32 AncuL: kan tetep aja volume clicknya kecil yang di hitsound
22:33 Arzenvald: iye tau, makanya yg 20 di bikin 30
22:33 Arzenvald: edit osu manual
22:33 AncuL: oh iya
22:33 AncuL: let
22:33 AncuL: 's see
22:33 Arzenvald: find 20:Click.wav
22:33 Arzenvald: replace 30:Click.wav
22:33 Arzenvald: ez
22:34 Arzenvald: semuanya 20% kan pas nge hs?
22:34 AncuL: kk
22:34 AncuL: mayber
22:35 Arzenvald: btw hi-hat di bagian kiai nge blend banget
22:35 Arzenvald: like you can't tell if its bga or hitsound
22:35 Arzenvald: imo replace sama hitsound lain akan lebih wise
22:35 AncuL: naikin jadi berapa?
22:35 AncuL: meh it's fine imo
22:36 Arzenvald: kena kamikaze hitsound crusade gw gk balik lagi ngenominate :V
22:37 Arzenvald: 00:33:136 - dari sini sampe ending volume green line nya dibikin 20%, di kiai 30%
22:37 Arzenvald: or 30% & 40%
22:38 AncuL: oh iya lupa gw ganti
22:38 Arzenvald: like
22:38 Arzenvald: cuma di awal doang, dan di bagian yg piano solo, hs 10% kedengeran
22:42 Arzenvald: 01:54:703 - missing btw
22:42 Arzenvald: 02:10:433 (130433|1) - pindah ke 7, 02:10:595 (130595|4) - pindah ke 3
22:44 AncuL: 08:04:706 (484706|5) - ini gw pindah ke 7
22:44 AncuL: 08:07:241 (487241|6) - ini ke 6
22:44 Arzenvald: great
22:45 AncuL: 1:54:703 - apa yang missing
22:45 AncuL: 01:54:703 - apa yang missing
22:46 AncuL: 02:10:757 (130757|1) - ini gw pindah ke 5
22:46 AncuL: 02:10:919 (130919|2) - ini 2
22:46 Arzenvald: piano
22:47 AncuL: gw ga denger apa-apa
22:47 AncuL: timestampnya bener?
22:47 Arzenvald: bener kok masih main piano disitu
22:48 AncuL: ??
22:48 Arzenvald: 06:06:973 - jgn 5 > 0,33
22:49 Arzenvald: teleport rada imba
22:49 Arzenvald: 06:16:595 (376595|4) - disini sih oke
22:49 AncuL: gimana yak
22:49 AncuL: menurut gw sih fine aja
22:49 AncuL: soalnya jedanya rada panjang
22:50 Arzenvald: intensitas nya yg di spot yg itu kurang support buat teleport, like, player yg belum pernah main ini pasti ngerasa kyk diff spike doang
22:51 Arzenvald: like gk se nge 'BOOM' di 06:16:595 -
22:51 AncuL: menurut gw sih itu malah jadi tempat transisi ke bagian yang lebih "epic"
22:51 Arzenvald: iye tapi gk perlu teleport
22:52 AncuL: masa sih wkwk
22:52 Arzenvald: gk se intens 05:52:311 -
22:52 Arzenvald: dan 06:16:595 -
22:52 Arzenvald: bandingin aja suaranya
22:53 AncuL: kalo berdasarkan suara emang nggak sebanding
22:53 AncuL: liat aja gw cuma naro notenya 2
22:53 Arzenvald: iye lu sendiri paham kan maksud gw
22:53 AncuL: tapi gw naro teleportnya di slider tailnya loh
22:54 AncuL: jadi emphasisnya bukan di pressnya, tapi di releasenya
22:54 Arzenvald: bukan tailnya, next note jatoh nya kenceng bat
22:54 AncuL: pas release langsung dikasih teleport
22:54 Arzenvald: iye over emphasis imo
22:54 Arzenvald: gk miss gw cuma kyk gk sesuai porsi visual sama feedback audio nya
22:55 AncuL: aaa
22:55 AncuL: bentar gw nerf dikit aja
22:55 Arzenvald: iya yg penting next nya jgn 0.3 dan 0.4
22:55 Arzenvald: normalize nya x1 yak
22:56 AncuL: aaaa
22:56 AncuL: gw mager buka kalkulator
22:56 Arzenvald: 06:52:541 (412541|3) - i believe this should be 1/8
22:56 Arzenvald: note nya keduluan
22:57 AncuL: o ya
22:57 Arzenvald: even ada 06:52:636 - grace
22:57 AncuL: gw ganti gini https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/M3gztDJ.png
22:57 Arzenvald: 07:00:379 (420379|4,420703|0,421027|3) - bisa di hold 3 3 nya bagus kali ya
22:57 Arzenvald: transisi stuff
22:58 Arzenvald: imgur :eyes:
22:58 AncuL: nggak bisa buka imgur ya
22:58 Arzenvald: bisa
22:59 AncuL: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/tgRbXgp.png
22:59 Arzenvald: 07:03:784 (423784|4,423946|6) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10650279
23:00 Arzenvald: itu yg mana ya
23:00 Arzenvald: oh iya
23:00 Arzenvald: yg 3
23:00 Arzenvald: oke
23:00 Arzenvald: gud
23:00 AncuL: nah. terlalu rapih
23:00 AncuL: eh cara normalize gimana
23:00 Arzenvald: zardoru.github.io/svtools
23:00 Arzenvald: wait
23:01 Arzenvald: http://zardoru.github.io/sv-tools/
23:01 Arzenvald: 07:19:190 (439190|0) - 07:26:973 (446973|2) - bikin 1/4 ln juga pls C:
23:01 AncuL: wut
23:02 AncuL: ya
23:02 Arzenvald: 03:44:000 (224000|2,224325|3) - bikin 1/2 anchor dah
23:02 Arzenvald: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10650315
23:02 AncuL: di bagian situ gw masih nggak mau nyentuh anchor
23:02 Arzenvald: pitch chan desu
23:03 AncuL: still tho
23:03 Arzenvald: 03:47:892 (227892|2,228217|4,228541|2) -
23:03 AncuL: intensity naik sepanjang map
23:03 Arzenvald: 1/2 anchor emang overkill yak awkwkwkwk
23:03 AncuL: gimana ya
23:03 Arzenvald: gw ngerti kok
23:04 AncuL: sip
23:04 Arzenvald: 04:36:379 (276379|5) - holyshit gk kedengeran sama sekali hs nya
23:04 Arzenvald: btw karena banyak element di map yg ke modif even setelah bubble, gw gk bisa langsung nominate
23:04 Arzenvald: (qualify)
23:04 AncuL: 03:51:946 - https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/dDTLNde.png
23:04 Arzenvald: including da fucking delay
23:04 Arzenvald: good
23:05 AncuL: itu udah gw ganti jadi 20%
23:05 Arzenvald: iye
23:05 Arzenvald: bentar gw upload hitsoundnya
23:05 AncuL: btw buat yang bagian squeak gw ganti jadi awal lagi aja
23:05 Arzenvald: squeak apa
23:06 AncuL: 06:06:973 -
23:06 Arzenvald: oh iya
23:06 Arzenvald: sip yg penting bukan teleport
23:06 Arzenvald: https://puu.sh/zXwTa/fac833656f.zip
23:07 AncuL: (masih teleport)
23:07 AncuL: menurut gw bagus gini sih
23:07 AncuL: soalnya bagian setelahnya itu bagian paling intense dalam map ini
23:08 Arzenvald: iye tapi agak aneh klo maksain part yg bukan intense di bikin intense, padahal belum intense (?)
23:08 Arzenvald: ngomong apa si gw
23:10 AncuL: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/oRCP7H9.png 06:12:054 -
23:10 Arzenvald: oh ok
23:11 Arzenvald: ude si gw cuma pen nge fix hitsound sama sv yg tadi
23:11 Arzenvald: sisanya oke lah, dah sering gw testplay juga kok
23:12 Arzenvald: update dih
23:13 AncuL: oh iya yang ini juga gw pindahin 00:25:433 -
23:13 AncuL: Umo- ngasitau di thread
23:13 AncuL: dah gw update dulu
23:15 AncuL: taroh log pak
23:16 Arzenvald: udah di update sama file hitsound yg gw kasi?
23:16 AncuL: iya
23:16 *Arzenvald is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/935489 steampianist - The Undertakers Daughter instrumental]
23:16 AncuL: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/KJGnpjO.png
23:24 Arzenvald: btw bisa kasi source metadata?
23:25 AncuL: satu-satunya cuma site newgrounds https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/675124
23:28 Arzenvald: e btw
23:28 Arzenvald: newgrounds celtic folk vocaloid oliver strings violin
23:29 AncuL: hm?
23:29 Arzenvald: remove newgrounds dari tag lol
23:29 AncuL: :thinking:
23:29 Arzenvald: lah newgrounds emang apa, situs forum
23:29 AncuL: iya sih
23:30 AncuL: map-map baru juga ada tag newgrounds https://osu.ppy.sh/s/550998
23:31 Arzenvald: berarti add soundcloud bandicamp to tag
23:32 Arzenvald: karena basically sama sama nge tag situs
23:32 AncuL: technically no since instrumental ver only appears on newgrounds
23:32 Arzenvald: oo
23:32 Arzenvald: tambah Mayu di tag
23:32 AncuL: mayu siapa
23:33 Arzenvald: vocal nya
23:33 AncuL: vocalnya bukannya oliver
23:33 Arzenvald: weh klo itu gw taunya baca dari soundcloud nya wkwkwk
23:34 Arzenvald: gk tau olivier atau mayu sih
23:34 AncuL: baca dimana lol
23:34 Arzenvald: https://soundcloud.com/ironpianist/oliver-the-undertakers-daughter-vocaloid-original
23:35 Arzenvald: oh salah baca
23:35 AncuL: gw gak nemu
23:35 Arzenvald: ok
23:35 Arzenvald: fix my bad
23:35 AncuL: wkwk
23:35 Arzenvald: berarti yg add di tag : Lili ironpianist
23:36 AncuL: oh iya ironpianist
23:37 AncuL: gw nambahinnya liliandstitch aja kali ya
23:37 Arzenvald: serah
23:37 Arzenvald: boleh
23:38 AncuL: eh
23:38 AncuL: celtic gw hapus aja ya
23:38 Arzenvald: ngga juga gpp deh
23:38 Arzenvald: hapus juga gk masalah
23:38 AncuL: hapus aja
23:38 AncuL: nggak nemu soalnya wkwk
23:39 Arzenvald: 04:55:838 - 10% lagi volume nya
23:39 Arzenvald: ehhh
23:39 Arzenvald: 05:05:568 (305568|3) - dari sini aja
23:40 Arzenvald: 05:37:676 (337676|3) - 15%
23:41 AncuL: eh kayaknya nggak perlu terlalu akurat deh
23:41 Arzenvald: btw 5% gk supported
23:41 AncuL: pake 5-10-20-30 nggak apa-apa
23:41 Arzenvald: like
23:41 AncuL: maksudnya 5% nggak supported?
23:41 Arzenvald: lu mau pakai sv 0.01, munculnya jadi 0.10
23:41 Arzenvald: sama kyk 5%, munculnya 8%
23:41 AncuL: nggak masalah wkwk
23:42 Arzenvald: kyk salah baca, tapi gw gk salah baca deh
23:42 AncuL: perasaan ada kok map yang make 5%
23:42 AncuL: gw nggak pernah baca referensinya sih
23:42 Arzenvald: iye masi kedengeran si
23:42 Arzenvald: namanya juga bug
23:42 AncuL: kalo kabar yang sv 0.01 gw sering denger
23:43 AncuL: 07:16:433 - ini gw ganti 3 note
23:43 Arzenvald: ok
23:43 AncuL: WTF star rating turun jadi 4.75
23:43 AncuL: ok
23:44 Arzenvald: yaudah paling itu aja
23:44 AncuL: gw upload lagi dulu deh
23:44 Arzenvald: ok
23:45 AncuL: udah ya
23:46 Arzenvald: apa gw langsung nominate ya
23:47 Arzenvald: like
23:47 Arzenvald: everything is fine
23:47 AncuL: ga masalah sih setau gw
23:47 AncuL: kan udah dibubble ini
23:52 AncuL: jadi? owo
23:52 Arzenvald: 02:30:865 (150865|5) -
23:53 Arzenvald: 1/6
23:53 AncuL: nggak keliatan
23:53 Arzenvald: piano nya jelas loh
23:53 AncuL: + kalo dijadiin 1/6 jadi kurang kuat
23:53 Arzenvald: lah add note aja
23:54 Arzenvald: 02:30:919 - di 3
23:54 Arzenvald: :^)
23:54 AncuL: udah kebanyakan =w=
23:54 Arzenvald: katanya kurang kuat
23:54 Arzenvald: dih
23:54 Arzenvald: gk jadi out of place aja, meanwhile yg lain di add bagian grace note nya
23:55 AncuL: juga jadi nggak konsisten ama ini 02:29:892 -
23:55 Arzenvald: feedback audionya beda om
23:56 AncuL: sama kok. crash + kick + piano + vocal kecil
23:56 AncuL: btw changed deh
23:56 AncuL: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/zv5rxOB.png
23:57 Arzenvald: wait itu yg mana
23:57 Arzenvald: oh
23:57 Arzenvald: gitar
23:57 Arzenvald: ok
23:57 Arzenvald: bole bole
23:58 AncuL: eh salah
23:58 AncuL: harusnya snappingnya 1/8
23:58 Arzenvald: ok
23:58 AncuL: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/h8LPJ7h.png gini aja deh =w=
00:03 AncuL: btw gw udah ngantuk wkwk
00:04 Arzenvald: uda di update?
00:04 Arzenvald: last thing
00:04 Arzenvald: hp 8.5 or riot
00:04 Arzenvald: wdf

please raise HP to 8.5 or more because damn this map is already spamable with OD 7.5 while the hp itself is very forgiving for advanced players.
can nominate afterward because not much changed inside the chart itself, basically just raised file volume and adjusting green line volume, making things audible
Topic Starter
AncuL
ya sure
also bumped OD to 8

07:48:054 - i also made small changes here to make the chord amount consistent. please recheck on the part to see whether it's fine or not
Arzenvald
heart or flame is the same rite?
p/6432668 1st nomination, checked thoroughly and issues from past DQ are resolved

nominated! good luck <3
muumis
could you make a original gameplay version of this instead of that piano thingy
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