Endaris wrote:

Mahogany wrote:

This isn't really relevant to what we're arguing about in the thread, tbh. I understood it as we were more debating whether streaming actually required aim. >which it does<

Aim is more core to streaming than your tapping. If your aim is off, it'll make your tapping worthless, and you'll instadie. If your tapping is off, your aim is still having an impact and you might still survive the stream.

What defines a stream?
Being hard to aim?
Are consecutive 1/4 that are perfectly stacked(=no stack leniency) still streams?

Endaris wrote:

Polls fail to reveal truth about things that can be discussed with proper arguments and examples.
I should open a poll whether 1+1 is 7 or 4.

B1rd wrote:

It was exactly what it was about, me refuting the statement that 'streaming is aim'. I said that streaming does require aim in some form but tapping is the main component. People tend to complicate issues so I just wanted to simplify it a bit.

B1rd wrote:

By the way, streaming stacks is still called streaming, not stacking or anything else.

Endaris wrote:

Ha, problem solved, we have different definitions of streaming.

Endaris wrote:

Everyone.
Some people only regard it as a stream if it actually moves. Involving movement as a definition of streaming makes aiming a core mechanic of it.
I see streams as the 1/4 spaced notes that lead to somewhere but it doesn't have to be expressed with movement, therefore my definition doesn't involve movement.

Assuming you don't count triples as streams

KanoSet wrote:

tbh for someone like me who have turtle fingers even good aiming won't help me to survive that much
i guess it's more about what you are capable of

look mom i can aim

KanoSet wrote:

tbh for someone like me who have turtle fingers even good aiming won't help me to survive that much
i guess it's more about what you are capable of

Endaris wrote:

Polls fail to reveal truth about things that can be discussed with proper arguments and examples.
I should open a poll whether 1+1 is 7 or 4.

Mahogany wrote:

I'm guessing he means he's a slow streamer

Like me

That map he played is like 154/156bpm

Khelly wrote:

2+2=fish

KanoSet wrote:

2+2=pantsu

Khelly wrote:

KanoSet wrote:

tbh for someone like me who have turtle fingers even good aiming won't help me to survive that much
i guess it's more about what you are capable of

look mom i can aim

"turtle fingers" are irrelevant because we're talking about streams that you individually feel comfortable with bpm wise. Whether that's 160 or 200 or 250 whatever. How about streams where speed is a non-issue?

II Jelli II wrote:

Both are essential elements. Tapping can be argued to be more important because without being able to physically stream fast enough, no matter your aim, you will miss, whereas with aim you can luck out

B1rd wrote:

Who would have thought, despite the angry G&R mob the large majority of people still agree with me :^)

KanoSet wrote:

oh i thought you guys were talking about 5.5* and above 200bpm crazy stuff only
well if it's in a range that i can tap comfortablly then aiming is streaming i would say
but i don't believe bird assumed that either

B1rd wrote:

Who would have thought, despite the angry G&R mob the large majority of people still agree with me :^)

B1rd wrote:

Streams are about tapping and hand synchronisation. Spaced streams are not hard to aim, all you need to do is move your hand at a constant rate to hit a spaced stream.

B1rd wrote:

Who would have thought, despite the angry G&R mob the large majority of people still agree with me :^)

Khelly wrote:

B1rd wrote:

Who would have thought, despite the angry G&R mob the large majority of people still agree with me :^)

Who would've thought that b1rd can't think of how wording the question and providing more information changes responses.

Mahogany wrote:

Yeah, anyone can completely change the question being asked to get others to agree with them.

KukiMonster wrote:

Stream = more tapping. Jump = more aiming. Wow complicated.

[Taiga] wrote:

TL;DR:

By b1rd logic main problem with streams in Dragonforce maps, Blue Zenith, Ice Angel, Babymetal is tapping, not aim.

You - Are - An - Idiot

This whole poll is as stupid as it's creator because comparing burst stacks to spaced streams is like comparing a bike to a exclusive car - fuckin retarded.

Very fuckin funny that i can 99% acc 170 bpm stack for over 1 min but i cannot properly aim Ice Angel streams.
Very fuckin tapping problem, ayyyy lmao.

Yo b1rd, who the fuck boosted your acc with pp? With who you shared your account?
I barely see anyone who played long time, got over 3kpp and spreading such dumb fucked theories.

EoT.

I notice you always seem to insult people when you disagree with them.

is it really necessary to accuse someone of multi-accounting just because they have a different idea/opinion to you?

[Taiga] wrote:

Then you don't keep up on all my discussions, i tend to discuss a lot even if i dont disagree.
This case is just plain stupid.

[Taiga] wrote:

It's hard to believe that 4k pp player is missleading others with bullshit theory that aim is minor impact of streams and tapping is everything.


Tapping is main component of stacks, close stacks. Whenever stream start to be spaced, in other word stream is not stacked - aim takes same place to tapping, in case of weirdly shaped / high ds streams, aim have even higher impact than tapping.

Not mention jumpstreams / moderated distyance snapping like in for example 8-bit princess where aim have way higer impact on streaming acc than tapping.

Pls, nobody will tell me that for example Cookiezi don't FC Road to resistance HR becouse of tapping...

B1rd wrote:

Now, if you want to try and backpedal and say' hey, that's not what we were arguing about!' then tell me what we were arguing about

B1rd wrote:

'tapping and not aim is the main element of streaming'

B1rd wrote:

'tapping and not aim is the main element of streaming'

[Taiga] wrote: