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What is the main component of streaming?
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What is the main component of streaming?
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Polls fail to reveal truth about things that can be discussed with proper arguments and examples.
I should open a poll whether 1+1 is 7 or 4.
I should open a poll whether 1+1 is 7 or 4.
This isn't really relevant to what we're arguing about in the thread, tbh. I understood it as we were more debating whether streaming actually required aim. >which it does<
Aim is more core to streaming than your tapping. If your aim is off, it'll make your tapping worthless, and you'll instadie. If your tapping is off, your aim is still having an impact and you might still survive the stream.
Aim is more core to streaming than your tapping. If your aim is off, it'll make your tapping worthless, and you'll instadie. If your tapping is off, your aim is still having an impact and you might still survive the stream.
I also think aiming is the core skill when it comes to streaming. Core, in this case, meaning main skill required for keeping combo.
If you want to put it in layers then I'm saying tapping -> aim -> tapping where the innermost layer is literally being able to press two buttons in alternate succession at a certain bpm. The second and most important layer is aim where, without which, you cannot hit a single note making your tapping useless. The third and last layer is tapping well which basically means high acc.
If you want to put it in layers then I'm saying tapping -> aim -> tapping where the innermost layer is literally being able to press two buttons in alternate succession at a certain bpm. The second and most important layer is aim where, without which, you cannot hit a single note making your tapping useless. The third and last layer is tapping well which basically means high acc.
What defines a stream?Mahogany wrote:
This isn't really relevant to what we're arguing about in the thread, tbh. I understood it as we were more debating whether streaming actually required aim. >which it does<
Aim is more core to streaming than your tapping. If your aim is off, it'll make your tapping worthless, and you'll instadie. If your tapping is off, your aim is still having an impact and you might still survive the stream.
Being hard to aim?
Are consecutive 1/4 that are perfectly stacked(=no stack leniency) still streams?
I don't think stacked 1/4's are streams. If they are, they're barely streams. Example, if you had a map where streams were 9 notes each as straight lines going through the map. Change each of those lines of streams to stacks and you almost have jumps, essentially.Endaris wrote:
What defines a stream?Mahogany wrote:
This isn't really relevant to what we're arguing about in the thread, tbh. I understood it as we were more debating whether streaming actually required aim. >which it does<
Aim is more core to streaming than your tapping. If your aim is off, it'll make your tapping worthless, and you'll instadie. If your tapping is off, your aim is still having an impact and you might still survive the stream.
Being hard to aim?
Are consecutive 1/4 that are perfectly stacked(=no stack leniency) still streams?
Are triples streams? Are only triples that are not stacked streams?
Stream = Consecutive series of notes that are generally 1/4th, but can be other types depending on the bpm of the map. I'd generally say it's required to be 5 notes or longer, as most people call anything below that "Doubles, Triples" and "Quads" instead. They're also reasonably spaced.
If they're stacked, they're called stacks, not streams.
If they're stacked, they're called stacks, not streams.
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It was exactly what it was about, me refuting the statement that 'streaming is aim'. I said that streaming does require aim in some form but tapping is the main component. People tend to complicate issues so I just wanted to simplify it a bit.Endaris wrote:
Polls fail to reveal truth about things that can be discussed with proper arguments and examples.
I should open a poll whether 1+1 is 7 or 4.
By the way, streaming stacks is still called streaming, not stacking or anything else.
Ha, problem solved, we have different definitions of streaming.
Therefore there's no actual disagreement just different definitions.
//thread.
Therefore there's no actual disagreement just different definitions.
//thread.
You'll never hit the notes if your aim is wrong, though, regardless of whether tapping is perfect. Meanwhile, if your aim is perfect, but your tapping is off, it's still possible to make it through the stream in some form.B1rd wrote:
It was exactly what it was about, me refuting the statement that 'streaming is aim'. I said that streaming does require aim in some form but tapping is the main component. People tend to complicate issues so I just wanted to simplify it a bit.
Aim is much more a core skill than the tapping, because your tapping is completely dependent on your aim to actually have any effect at all.
Playing stacks is still called streaming, yes. What's your point? If your cursor is completely off the stack, your tapping still isn't going to do shit.B1rd wrote:
By the way, streaming stacks is still called streaming, not stacking or anything else.
Can you quote who you're replying to because you have me confusedEndaris wrote:
Ha, problem solved, we have different definitions of streaming.
Harder aim actually makes tapping harder because of how much you have to focus on aim as opposed to the other skill.
your fingers
Everyone.
Some people only regard it as a stream if it actually moves. Involving movement as a definition of streaming makes aiming a core mechanic of it.
I see streams as the 1/4 spaced notes that lead to somewhere but it doesn't have to be expressed with movement, therefore my definition doesn't involve movement.
Some people only regard it as a stream if it actually moves. Involving movement as a definition of streaming makes aiming a core mechanic of it.
I see streams as the 1/4 spaced notes that lead to somewhere but it doesn't have to be expressed with movement, therefore my definition doesn't involve movement.
If we're talking about streaming with your definition, do doubles and triples count as streams?Endaris wrote:
Everyone.
Some people only regard it as a stream if it actually moves. Involving movement as a definition of streaming makes aiming a core mechanic of it.
I see streams as the 1/4 spaced notes that lead to somewhere but it doesn't have to be expressed with movement, therefore my definition doesn't involve movement.
Which are more prevelant in maps, streams without movement or streams with?
Assuming you don't count triples as streams
tbh for someone like me who have turtle fingers even good aiming won't help me to survive that much
i guess it's more about what you are capable of
i guess it's more about what you are capable of
"turtle fingers" are irrelevant because we're talking about streams that you individually feel comfortable with bpm wise. Whether that's 160 or 200 or 250 whatever. How about streams where speed is a non-issue?KanoSet wrote:
tbh for someone like me who have turtle fingers even good aiming won't help me to survive that much
i guess it's more about what you are capable of
oh i thought you guys were talking about 5.5* and above 200bpm crazy stuff only
well if it's in a range that i can tap comfortablly then aiming is streaming i would say
but i don't believe bird assumed that either
well if it's in a range that i can tap comfortablly then aiming is streaming i would say
but i don't believe bird assumed that either
"click the circles, to the beat"
So both are core
So both are core
What does that mean? Turtle fingers. That stream seemed really good.KanoSet wrote:
tbh for someone like me who have turtle fingers even good aiming won't help me to survive that much
i guess it's more about what you are capable of
Confused.
I'm guessing he means he's a slow streamer
Like me
That map he played is like 154/156bpm
Like me
That map he played is like 154/156bpm