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ZUN - The Youkai Mountain ~ Mysterious Mountain

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Sakura
You got it!
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Deif
(ノ゚ω゚)ノ
Tenshi-nyan

Sakura Hana wrote:

You got it!
BUBBLE

/me dies
Weez
YEAAAH


/me sets up tent and waits for rank
Roddie
*sigh*

Looks like its to late for me to mod this. :|

Oh, well~

Have my star at least.
ouranhshc
yay
Lybydose
Timing is a bit off. The 2nd half of the map is exactly the same as the first half, but you've got offset changes on the 2nd half where you don't on the 1st half.

The offset shouldn't be changing at any point in this song anyway, just the time signatures.

Use the following offsets:

602 (+10 from what you have now) 3/4 time signature
52,030 (+12) 4/4
74,887 (+12) 3/4
126,315 (no change) 4/4
149,172 (no change) 3/4

Further modding (just opinions, don't have to change):

Tenshi:

01:01:839 (2) - this note is pretty awkward. It feels more natural if the slider at 01:01:303 (1) were extended to end at this spot instead, it transitions better into the next few sliders
01:13:268 (3) - ^
02:16:136 (2) - ^
02:16:136 (2) - ^

00:53:982 (1) - sounds better imo if you delete this note (so that it's just a stack of 2). I know this song pretty well, so this extra note threw me off every time I played it. Some might find it easier with this note here though, so your call
02:08:279 (1) - same deal here

Lunatic:

00:53:982 (1) - same comment as in Tenshi's at this part
02:08:279 (1) - ^

Again, don't change it if you don't want, it's still fine as is. You should remove the whistle from the 1st note in these stacks if you do keep it though.

00:50:949 (1,2,3) - why are these notes so soft? I can barely hear the hitsounds when I hit them.

This difficulty has a lot of seemingly randomly placed claps, like 00:52:732 (3), 01:01:125 (1), and 02:07:029 (3) for example

For this song, claps generally sound best on the 2nd and 3rd white ticks of each measure for the 3/4 parts. http://puu.sh/YCG The highlighted notes for example. Claps generally sound bad in this song if you put them on the large white ticks.

My point is, you've done this already for Normal [00:19:163 (3,4) for example], but Lunatic has different clap placement than Normal. The claps at 00:18:806 (5,6) and every part that sounds like it sounds better with the clap removed from the beginning of 5, and then a clap added on 6.

I don't mean put claps everywhere on 2 and 3, but you should at least change the ones on the sliders like 00:18:806 (5).

01:02:375 (1,2,3) - switching back and forth between soft and normal sounds kind of odd here, especially since you've got whistles on the slider tracks, so you just hear the sliderslide sound constantly going in and out.
02:16:672 (1,2,3,4) - ^
Tenshi-nyan

Lybydose wrote:

Tenshi:

01:01:839 (2) - this note is pretty awkward. It feels more natural if the slider at 01:01:303 (1) were extended to end at this spot instead, it transitions better into the next few sliders
01:13:268 (3) - ^
02:16:136 (2) - ^
02:16:136 (2) - ^ Changed 'em all.

00:53:982 (1) - sounds better imo if you delete this note (so that it's just a stack of 2). I know this song pretty well, so this extra note threw me off every time I played it. Some might find it easier with this note here though, so your call
02:08:279 (1) - same deal here No change here. Sounds better to me with the note, and also plays better.
Fixed timing and here ya go. Gimme back the bubble D:

http://puu.sh/YLf
Topic Starter
Deif
Lybydose's mod

Lybydose wrote:

Timing is a bit off. The 2nd half of the map is exactly the same as the first half, but you've got offset changes on the 2nd half where you don't on the 1st half.

The offset shouldn't be changing at any point in this song anyway, just the time signatures.

Use the following offsets: (Timing fixed + resnapped notes)

602 (+10 from what you have now) 3/4 time signature
52,030 (+12) 4/4
74,887 (+12) 3/4
126,315 (no change) 4/4
149,172 (no change) 3/4

Further modding (just opinions, don't have to change):

Lunatic:

00:53:982 (1) - same comment as in Tenshi's at this part (I think it's easier to play if I keep it but you're right, this whistle is unnecessary, so removed)
02:08:279 (1) - ^ (Same as before)

Again, don't change it if you don't want, it's still fine as is. You should remove the whistle from the 1st note in these stacks if you do keep it, though.

00:50:949 (1,2,3) - why are these notes so soft? I can barely hear the hitsounds when I hit them. (I lowered the volume of these notes to emphasize 00:52:030 (4))

This difficulty has a lot of seemingly randomly placed claps, like 00:52:732 (3), 01:01:125 (1), and 02:07:029 (3) for example (Removed)

For this song, claps generally sound best on the 2nd and 3rd white ticks of each measure for the 3/4 parts. http://puu.sh/YCG The highlighted notes for example. Claps generally sound bad in this song if you put them on the large white ticks.

My point is, you've done this already for Normal [00:19:163 (3,4) for example], but Lunatic has different clap placement than Normal. The claps at 00:18:806 (5,6) and every part that sounds like it sounds better with the clap removed from the beginning of 5, and then a clap added on 6.

I don't mean put claps everywhere on 2 and 3, but you should at least change the ones on the sliders like 00:18:806 (5). (Fixed those sliders the way you suggested)

01:02:375 (1,2,3) - switching back and forth between soft and normal sounds kind of odd here, especially since you've got whistles on the slider tracks, so you just hear the sliderslide sound constantly going in and out. (Fixed, I've placed normal-whistles at the beginning of the sliders only, in 01:02:030 (10,1,2,3), and removed the inherited timing sections. 01:03:458 (4) - I'll keep this slider track whistled, it's odd without it)
(I also fixed whistles in 01:13:458 (10,1,2,3) the same way as the previous one mentioned)

02:16:672 (1,2,3,4) - ^ (Same as before)
Thanks Lybydose, at last the correct timing ^^

Also, further modding in Lunatic:
02:17:743 (4) - I made this more rounded, in order to 02:18:636 (4,5,6) would fit better in the slider body

Hard's updated too!
Shino
Sorry for late responce.
I tried to mod the taiko, but... gave up.
At least I'll write the part that felt VERY weird.

00:12:377 (50~56) -
00:14:520 (63~70) -
00:19:709 (16~32) -
00:30:601 (86) - *...why finish here?
01:34:172 (59~73) -
01:44:172 (118) - *...finish?
01:44:886 (122~138) -
02:19:172 (89~95) - *feel empty
Numbers 596108

Shino wrote:

Sorry for late responce.
I tried to mod the taiko, but... gave up.
At least I'll write the part that felt VERY weird.

00:12:377 (50~56) - What?
00:14:520 (63~70) - What?
00:19:709 (16~32) - What?
00:30:601 (86) - *...why finish here? by MAT
01:34:172 (59~73) - What?
01:44:172 (118) - *...finish? by MAT
01:44:886 (122~138) - What?
02:19:172 (89~95) - *feel empty Remove Notes
Thanks for Modding :3

Download: ZUN - The Youkai Mountain ~ Mysterious Mountain (Deif) [596108's Taiko].osu
Topic Starter
Deif
Updated :D
CXu
[Easy]
00:15:602 (3) - Looks kinda out of place, but whatever :p
00:54:887 (3) - make this a copy of 00:52:744 (1)?
... No really, there wasn't anything wrong here imo.

[Normal]
01:03:101 (3,4) - Make a complete square thing?
01:23:458 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Looked a bit meh since it was stacked, but whatever
Nothing more I have to say :p

[Tenshi's Hard]
I really liked to play this diff for some reason. Nothing wrong here I guess.

[Lunatic]
Plays well, and didn't really notice anything...


Yeah, sorry for almost useless modpost >.< Star~~
Topic Starter
Deif
CXu's mod

CXu wrote:

[Easy]
00:15:602 (3) - Looks kinda out of place, but whatever :p (Well, a spinner would've been too short for an Easy :P)
00:54:887 (3) - make this a copy of 00:52:744 (1)? (I like variety in sliders lol)
... No really, there wasn't anything wrong here imo.

[Normal]
01:03:101 (3,4) - Make a complete square thing? (That anti-symmetry was intentional)
01:23:458 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Looked a bit meh since it was stacked, but whatever (o.o)
Nothing more I have to say :p

[Tenshi's Hard]
I really liked to play this diff for some reason. Nothing wrong here I guess.

[Lunatic]
Plays well, and didn't really notice anything...


Yeah, sorry for almost useless modpost >.< Star~~
Thanks for your mod! Also, many people really like your diff, Tenshi =)
Tenshi-nyan

Deif wrote:

Thanks for your mod! Also, many people really like your diff, Tenshi =)
Hmm. I dunno why TBH. I think it sucks actually D: At least it's worse than my latest maps.

BTW more Nazi mod.
C'mon, get the bubble back D:

Yes I am a gloomy person
ziin

Deif wrote:

You forgot this (Page 2, 10 days ago):

Deif wrote:

More work for you =) http://osu.ppy.sh/s/22040

Thanks a lot ^^
I thought this was perfect when I played it months ago, thought it was perfect last week when I played (it was bubbled too), and didn't think you needed any more stars.

as far as I can tell, this is completely rankable, has gone through the process of constant remodding, as well as has some of the most beautiful sliders I've ever seen. The only suggestion I can offer is to match the hitsounds exactly to the music (ie only do finishes when there's a cymbal crash). However this is not necessary, and it still sounds fine.

Here's your 104th.

oh wait found some stuff on insane then.

02:18:279 - add note?
02:18:814 (9) - delete note or move it to 02:18:681
01:04:530 (6) - ^
also, why are these numbers different?
Topic Starter
Deif

ziin wrote:

02:18:279 - add note? (The question is: why the hell did I remove that note? ._.)
02:18:814 (9) - delete note or move it to 02:18:681 (Not necessary because of ^)
01:04:530 (6) - ^ (Not necessary because of ^)
also, why are these numbers different? (I was only a mistake D:)
I'll recheck the map in order to improve the hitsounds...
Topic Starter
Deif
I've been revising every hitsound. The 2nd part of the song is similar to the 1st one, so I didn't write those changes.

These are the changes: (W=whistle, C=clap, F=finish)

Easy:
00:50:959 (1) - Volume up 2 ticks (only the beginning, 1st and 2nd repetition of the slider)
01:02:387 (1) - W not in the sliderbody
01:03:101 (2) - W in the whole slider
01:13:815 (1) - W not in the sliderbody
01:14:530 (2) - W in the whole slider. Added F at the end, and made it Normal

Normal:
01:03:458 (4) - Added W
01:14:530 (3) - ^
01:14:887 (4) - ^ and changed it to Normal

Lunatic:
00:08:548 (4,5) - Removed W
00:12:387 (1) - Removed W at the beginning
00:15:244 (5) - Added C
00:50:959 (1,2,3) - Volume up 2 ticks
00:52:922 (4) - Added W at the end
00:53:458 (5) - Added W at the beginning
00:57:030 (7) - ^
00:57:744 (1) - Added W to the beginning and the sliderbody
01:03:458 (4) - Removed W at the end
01:03:994 (1,2) - Removed W
01:04:351 (4) - Added W
01:04:887 (8) - Removed W at the 2nd and the end
01:05:422 (1,2) - Removed W
01:08:458 (7) - Removed W of the sliderbody and the end
01:09:172 (1) - Added W to the beginning and the sliderbody
01:14:887 (4) - Added W, also changed this note to Normal

It's ready to mod again ;)
Sakura
Random recheck:
You should probably keep a consistency of the clap suggestions Lybydose mentioned, for example on [Easy] 00:17:744 (1,2) Clap at the end of (1) and on (2), as i dont see the reason to have a whistle on the first and a clap on the 2nd.
Another thing, you seem to be spamming finishes sometimes, this should not be happening try to use finishes really rarely, for example (on [Easy] again) 00:32:744 (4) Use finish on the slider repeat instead and a regular hitsound on the end, since that note is of lower pitch than the next, it will match up nicely with (5)'s whistle.
Please, dont let this map get more overmodded, it may end up getting bad instead of better, in fact some hitsounds are starting to sound bad already, just try to get Lybydose back here for recheck or something.

Also have you tried contacting Lybydose again for a recheck?
Topic Starter
Deif

Sakura Hana wrote:

Also have you tried contacting Lybydose again for a recheck?
Yes, I sent Lybydose a forum PM, but I had no answer. I'm gonna recheck those claps, thanks for your help =)

EDIT: Full hitsound recheck has been done ;_;
NoHitter
Well Easy and Normal are not the neatest difficulties, but yeah, pretty solid map.
The only things that bother me are the empty parts of the map during 00:42:387 & 01:56:672.

Sorry it took so long and I couldn't find anything significant.
jnkinsu
nice map!
star~
Tenshi-nyan
If you don't get this re-bubbled quickly I might seriously consider completely remapping my Hard. I'm kinda unsatisfied with it.
Topic Starter
Deif
I really don't know how can this be improved. Sorry if I'm a shitty mapper >_<
ziin
It needs to be ranked is what needs to happen.
K i R a
Why this is not ranked!? D: Star ~
Card N'FoRcE
I was asked to have a look at this because it was popped and never looked at since then.

First of all, offset +8ms

Then I'd like to know if Tenshi-nyan wants to remap his difficulty or not before doing a full check to the map.

Whenever this is ready to get a full mod, feel free to send me a Forum PM or ask me in-game.
Topic Starter
Deif
Ok, offset changed in every diffy... I hope it's the right one at last.

I've talked to Tenshi, and he's not gonna remap his level, so this is ready to mod again ;p
KogumaX
:D
Card N'FoRcE
Sorry for being late, my PC decided to make fun of me :<

Anyway, i checked and.... nothing to say :x

Everything turns out to be fine, so...
Topic Starter
Deif
Thank you CNF ^^
giO-
:)
Louis Cyphre
oh God. Finally bubbled!

SOMEONE RANK THIS AWESOMENESS!!!
ziin
Three months later, 220 stars, still bubbled.
Topic Starter
Deif

ziin wrote:

Three months later, 220 stars, still bubbled.
No way D:
Nyan-Zapo
:)
abalee
First map hmm..
keep improving on you next map ;)
Arusha Shuna
congratz deif :D
Topic Starter
Deif
7 months later... (ノ゚ω゚)ノ

I'd like to thank all the people that helped me improving this map ^^
Ikillforpies
Congratz Deif!
Weez
YES FINALLLY!!!!!
congratz!
James2250
I remember modding this 7 months ago :P

Congrats~
Shiirn

James2250 wrote:

I remember modding this 7 months ago :P

Congrats~
Mine was a bit after yours heh
Tenshi-nyan
Heh, finally got this ranked.

Great, and just at this time my ISP has to fuck me up.

Congratz to Deif, 596108 and of course me ^_^
Louis Cyphre
Finaly! Gratz!
Mastodonio
congratulations!
Topic Starter
Deif

James2250 wrote:

I remember modding this 7 months ago :P

Congrats~
I remember it too! This map was really crappy, and you used to be a MAT then ;)
Vass_Bass
graaaatz~
-kevincela-
Gratz :D
Sallad4ever
yup it took a very long time
congratz for the rank~
SiyouYuki_old
I knew it would be ranked, I told ya -w-
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