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Kanye West
yeah but if you ward properly, it's blatantly obvious when a blitz is going for a grab and you can counterplay it. plus if someone picks blitz, go support zyra, block every grab with plants, and poke him down. he can't do anything in lane against you.

plus, many people are terrible with him and will be useless all game anyways.

Hika wrote:

I'd say banning TF is just as worthless as banning someone like Shen, Thresh or Blitzcrank because he's not that hard to kill off.
you must play against really, really bad TF players then
Vulf
That would require me to play bottom lane and I'm a top lane and jungle main. Problem is you are taking that risk of trusting people in solo queue and from my experience you can't trust anyone with anything. Better off removing the risk by banning it.
those
But you can't ban everything you don't trust. And there are much riskier champions than Blitzcrank (imo).
Vulf
Except that I can because Blitz is one of the few champions I don't trust on either side so it doesn't really matter. I don't want to play against it so I ban it and I don't trust anyone ever to play it properly or have a brain to lane against one.
Kanye West
haha that's true, blitz is one of those champions that your teammate is always useless at playing but when the enemy gets him, they instawin unless you counterpick him
those
Shaco too. And Riven.
SiFly_old
Wait. you were supposed to write funny 3 letter words with the bans?

You guys really have to improve on how the banning system works, and don't spell the always used TSM.
Kanye West
TSM is easy though because then you can just ban Teemo, Shaco, and Master Yi. THEY'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING
GeeNX

Hika wrote:

I'd say banning TF is just as worthless as banning someone like Shen, Thresh or Blitzcrank because he's not that hard to kill off.
Keep the weed off pls
Hika
i'm probably smoking weed because today was the first time I saw a good TF
gg
maal

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

what i meant was people are too dumb to know how to handle a zilean in low elo games, which is why you can silently climb to high elo with zilean, and zilean only by letting others carry you.
What? With that logic you can play anything and "let others carry you". That's like saying every single support, tank, and utility mage main that is diamond was carried there. It's not like some of these champions have game changing abilities or anything. =\

You don't have to be a carry to carry games.
haha zilean's ult not game changing


every thought of a comedy carreer?
GeeNX
If you suck you always can play Zilean with a pro Vayne
those


Why you gotta put down the Zileans?
Kanye West
There are already a Zilean comments about him in this thread, too much hate.
GeeNX
I like Zilean, but I just meant that in the case u suck, u can press R
maal

xRa1n wrote:

I like Zilean, but I just meant that in the case u suck, u can press R
which is what i've been saying the whole time
Kanye West
no one got my pun :(
ReVeNg3r
Devalix_old
Now I just gotta win 3/5 games

DaDeceptive0ne
Yay! I played a game with Guardsman Bob yesterday!
I was really nervous <3 But I managed to carry it :)

Tsukiko T
The most kawaii is Lulu <3
Vulf

maal wrote:

haha zilean's ult not game changing
every thought of a comedy carreer?
Because giving someone a free GA isn't good at all and can't turn a team fight around? It's not like GA has been nerfed like 4 times because of what it does.
GeeNX
Diamond played Karma Jungle LCS
GG
maal

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

haha zilean's ult not game changing
every thought of a comedy carreer?
Because giving someone a free GA isn't good at all and can't turn a team fight around? It's not like GA has been nerfed like 4 times because of what it does.
wtf are you talking about
Vulf
Apparently that was too complicated for you.

Zilean is a niche pick for the most part. You are saying Zilean cannot carry games or rather the people who pick him are carried. So much wrong in that statement.

You don't need to be doing the damages to carry a game. Simply providing the utility to the team can be enough to win games. Look at Orianna, Lulu, Malphite, Maokai and Janna.
boat
omg riot should definetely bring back zileans "silver bolts" skill I mean every support should have a hypercarry kit why else would you pick them as support #riotpls
Vulf
That's my point. You can carry a game as any role or any champion. Zilean is not excluded from that.

Have you ever heard the term "support is bottom lane"?
maal
omfg you are simply misreading every fucking thing jesus christ i give up; not even a thorough explanation will get through your goddamn head.


and yes, i posted that quote a looooooong time back son
tyrael6192

Vulf wrote:

Apparently that was too complicated for you.

Zilean is a niche pick for the most part. You are saying Zilean cannot carry games or rather the people who pick him are carried. So much wrong in that statement.

You don't need to be doing the damages to carry a game. Simply providing the utility to the team can be enough to win games. Look at Orianna, Lulu, Malphite, Maokai and Janna.
that's actually not what he's saying at all, you just failed to detect the sarcasm in his "ult not game changing". why is this argument still going nobody even plays zileen

KANYE I NOTICED YOUR PUN
maal

tyrael6192 wrote:

Vulf wrote:

Apparently that was too complicated for you.

Zilean is a niche pick for the most part. You are saying Zilean cannot carry games or rather the people who pick him are carried. So much wrong in that statement.

You don't need to be doing the damages to carry a game. Simply providing the utility to the team can be enough to win games. Look at Orianna, Lulu, Malphite, Maokai and Janna.
that's actually not what he's saying at all, you just failed to detect the sarcasm in his "ult not game changing". why is this argument still going nobody even plays zileen

KANYE I NOTICED YOUR PUN
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5 :(
Vulf

maal wrote:

omfg you are simply misreading every fucking thing jesus christ i give up; not even a thorough explanation will get through your goddamn head.


and yes, i posted that quote a looooooong time back son
No need to be so hostile. With the way you post it's very hard for me to take anything you say seriously. Sarcasm or not. With how many bad people that play this game you can see how easily it is for anyone to make that assumption..

My point still stands in the end anyways.

tyrael6192 wrote:

that's actually not what he's saying at all, you just failed to detect the sarcasm in his "ult not game changing". why is this argument still going nobody even plays zileen
Nothing wrong with discussing champions. This thread isn't only about posting end game results you know.

I play Zilean. He is one of my favorite champions.

Edit: spelling, quote fixes.
Sync
the only time I see zilean is in bot games

I fucking hate zilean bot

his bombs hurt early and his ult is so gay ;_;
those
1v1 me
Konei
Never saw Zilean lastly, lol. Only in ARAM.
Nofool

maal wrote:

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5 :(
there is another team that you have to put in gold ;_;
Vulf

Sync wrote:

the only time I see zilean is in bot games

I fucking hate zilean bot

his bombs hurt early and his ult is so gay ;_;
That's why i like playing him lol.

His ult is so troll. Like Shen.
BrokenArrow

Nofool wrote:

maal wrote:

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5 :(
there is another team that you have to put in gold ;_;
We should start using some voice chatting software for our next games, it'd help us improving a lot and is much more fun
If we even manage to gather 5 people at once in the first place
JesusYamato
I'm sorry i don't really have time to play these days
maal

Nofool wrote:

maal wrote:

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5 :(
there is another team that you have to put in gold ;_;
hah i think it's best i dont play so much lately, seeing as i lose a lot because of poor match ups 90% of the time


and BA is correct yeah
Nofool

BrokenArrow wrote:

We should start using some voice chatting software for our next games, it'd help us improving a lot and is much more fun
If we even manage to gather 5 people at once in the first place
i can't do anything for 2 more weeks sry ,_, but i don't think that this is hard to find a good adc é_è
and if you need a slot you can kick me and reinvit later n_n
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