Hika wrote:

Zilean actually hurts, people. When you let him farm, it's like hell when he throws bombs. His ult is completely annoying, especially in team fights. After ADC is dead, he's like "MUST REVIVE" and my team gets even more fucked afterward.

Most boring champ that I've ever played was Irelia, she's just so boring to me in Summoner's Rift. I mean she's all tanky and does a lot of damage and all but I never seem to be able to kill with her because DAT ULT.

boat wrote:

I'm pretty sure I can lock in jungle zilean and nobody will even complain.

Vulf wrote:

He is boring to play is all. Going to be kinda shitty when he loses his global passive.

Vulf wrote:

All global passives are getting removed from the game. Twisted Fate, Janna and Zilean.

The TF change is already on PBE.

Tenshi wrote:

What's the reasoning behind it?

SPOILER

Vulf wrote:

Here is one of the threads if you want to read. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... ?t=3680771

TL;DR: Global passives give too much power blah blah... Riot hates free stats.

Janna and Zilean will definitely get completely new passives because they are terrible for themselves only. TF's is basically the same except it has a chance to give more gold, and of course it's now for him only.

Hika wrote:

bots

Vulf wrote:

Zilean has been picked a couple of times in some major tournaments. He has retained his niche pick status unlike some other champions. Hardly a low elo champion.

He is boring to play is all. Going to be kinda shitty when he loses his global passive.

xRa1n wrote:

WTF, who bans talon xD

maal wrote:

i don't think you understand what i am writing

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

i don't think you understand what i am writing

I'm fairly sure I got it. Care to elaborate more on the subject though.

xRa1n wrote:

WTF, who bans talon xD

maal wrote:

what i meant was people are too dumb to know how to handle a zilean in low elo games, which is why you can silently climb to high elo with zilean, and zilean only by letting others carry you.

Kanye West wrote:

xRa1n wrote:

WTF, who bans talon xD

lol, i ban things like lee sin, lux, orianna and jarvan all the time to piss people off. banning things you don't like to play against is a good strategy.

banning things like blitz and amumu are a waste; they're easy to play against. imo things like jarvan and lee sin are harder to play against.

DaDeceptive0ne wrote:

Keep it up. Everyone who haz a main, needs at least one or two side champs.

Hika wrote:

I'd say banning TF is just as worthless as banning someone like Shen, Thresh or Blitzcrank because he's not that hard to kill off.

Hika wrote:

I'd say banning TF is just as worthless as banning someone like Shen, Thresh or Blitzcrank because he's not that hard to kill off.

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

what i meant was people are too dumb to know how to handle a zilean in low elo games, which is why you can silently climb to high elo with zilean, and zilean only by letting others carry you.

What? With that logic you can play anything and "let others carry you". That's like saying every single support, tank, and utility mage main that is diamond was carried there. It's not like some of these champions have game changing abilities or anything. =\

You don't have to be a carry to carry games.

xRa1n wrote:

I like Zilean, but I just meant that in the case u suck, u can press R

maal wrote:

haha zilean's ult not game changing
every thought of a comedy carreer?

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

haha zilean's ult not game changing
every thought of a comedy carreer?

Because giving someone a free GA isn't good at all and can't turn a team fight around? It's not like GA has been nerfed like 4 times because of what it does.

Vulf wrote:

Apparently that was too complicated for you.

Zilean is a niche pick for the most part. You are saying Zilean cannot carry games or rather the people who pick him are carried. So much wrong in that statement.

You don't need to be doing the damages to carry a game. Simply providing the utility to the team can be enough to win games. Look at Orianna, Lulu, Malphite, Maokai and Janna.

tyrael6192 wrote:

Vulf wrote:

Apparently that was too complicated for you.

Zilean is a niche pick for the most part. You are saying Zilean cannot carry games or rather the people who pick him are carried. So much wrong in that statement.

You don't need to be doing the damages to carry a game. Simply providing the utility to the team can be enough to win games. Look at Orianna, Lulu, Malphite, Maokai and Janna.

that's actually not what he's saying at all, you just failed to detect the sarcasm in his "ult not game changing". why is this argument still going nobody even plays zileen

KANYE I NOTICED YOUR PUN

in team 5v5

maal wrote:

omfg you are simply misreading every fucking thing jesus christ i give up; not even a thorough explanation will get through your goddamn head.


and yes, i posted that quote a looooooong time back son

tyrael6192 wrote:

that's actually not what he's saying at all, you just failed to detect the sarcasm in his "ult not game changing". why is this argument still going nobody even plays zileen

maal wrote:

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5

Sync wrote:

the only time I see zilean is in bot games

I fucking hate zilean bot

his bombs hurt early and his ult is so gay ;_;

Nofool wrote:

maal wrote:

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5

there is another team that you have to put in gold ;_;

Nofool wrote:

maal wrote:

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5

there is another team that you have to put in gold ;_;

BrokenArrow wrote:

We should start using some voice chatting software for our next games, it'd help us improving a lot and is much more fun
If we even manage to gather 5 people at once in the first place

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

haha zilean's ult not game changing
every thought of a comedy carreer?

Because giving someone a free GA isn't good at all and can't turn a team fight around? It's not like GA has been nerfed like 4 times because of what it does.

tyrael6192 wrote:

nobody ever said it wasn't jesus christ

also this

http://imgur.com/gallery/dyahk

im crying

Nofool wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

We should start using some voice chatting software for our next games, it'd help us improving a lot and is much more fun
If we even manage to gather 5 people at once in the first place

i can't do anything for 2 more weeks sry ,_, but i don't think that this is hard to find a good adc é_è
and if you need a slot you can kick me and reinvit later n_n

tyrael6192 wrote:

nobody ever said it wasn't jesus christ]

Vulf wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

nobody ever said it wasn't jesus christ]

So what lesson did you learn today? If someone is going to try and be sarcastic without any indications ( IN TEXT ON THE INTERNET) you're going to have a bad time.

Also if you are going to say X champion sucks then prepare to have a discussion about it.

tyrael6192 wrote:

vulf ur sarcasm detector needs some work done hue

i said nobody played him not that he sucked

Vulf wrote:

Also if you are going to say X champion sucks then prepare to have a discussion about it.

DaDeceptive0ne wrote:

Backfire wrote:

ww sux :33333333333333333333

Creyslz wrote:

Has anyone ever considered creating ranked 5's teams of just Osu players? I think we have enough players to organize an Osu League tournament.