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Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Here is one of the threads if you want to read. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... ?t=3680771

TL;DR: Global passives give too much power blah blah... Riot hates free stats.

Janna and Zilean will definitely get completely new passives because they are terrible for themselves only. TF's is basically the same except it has a chance to give more gold, and of course it's now for him only.
I'll read the thread in more detail later.
They don't like passive game play - the fact that something is there and gives free stuff. The Bulkwark was to deal with AoE heavy teams but in the end, it's just a good item (which I recall being nerfed once and I could see again if they're that hard against it)... apparently.
They like temporary AoE buffs though (ex: Jarvan's flag) because it involves more skill though?

I honestly don't like their reasoning why they like temporary stuff and not auras (at least, that's what I'm getting from the thread).... but hey, that's just me.
Vulf
Bulwark is being removed next patch. Aegis is getting nerfed along with locket.

Honestly I want burst mages like Annie and Brand to come back into the competitive scene. This means carries and melee assassins would actually have to position extremely well or be one-shotted, but nope according to riot that's not fun to play against.
DaDeceptive0ne
Vulf. I love you. It's like, you can read my mind. I can remember the times I played Annie or Brand.
The funny thing is, they dont care about you. The "AP Nuke" is kinda gone. They replayed it by all of the AD Burst and Offtanks.

It's not always like this, but most of the games is going to be full AD or offtank-mania.

Cheerz, Back from holidayz <3
tiper
God, Diana is so strong. I don't really like to play assasins because they are so squishy, but Diana isn't squishy like other ones.
DaDeceptive0ne
It's her main stats and her shield. She is one of the champions who can snowball so hardc0re and she got nerfed/buffed/buffed/nerfed.
Her Ultimate is rly strong, the cooldown reduction is perfect to nuke the enemy "whatever"-carry. And it's awesome because it's a gapecloser, you can use it twice during a short time or you can use it every 6 Seconds (without CR).

Cheerio~
Hika
I love Ashe so much, not a lot of people can play her right. She's so fun though, I got 2 pentas on bots with her ;____;
GeeNX
I was lvling up my smurf on EUW, funny the games because if we are 10, 8 are smurf, and 2 poor new players...

Btw if someone low lv on EU want to play with me, say it and I add u on my smurf
Azer

Hika wrote:

bots
maal

Vulf wrote:

Zilean has been picked a couple of times in some major tournaments. He has retained his niche pick status unlike some other champions. Hardly a low elo champion.

He is boring to play is all. Going to be kinda shitty when he loses his global passive. :(
i don't think you understand what i am writing
Jordan



FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
GeeNX
WTF, who bans talon xD
Jordan

xRa1n wrote:

WTF, who bans talon xD
My main ;_;
Effy
Talon needs to be banned, op champ :(
DaDeceptive0ne
Keep it up. Everyone who haz a main, needs at least one or two side champs.
tyrael6192


madlife pls
Vulf

maal wrote:

i don't think you understand what i am writing
I'm fairly sure I got it. Care to elaborate more on the subject though.
Backfire

Who needs boots?
maal

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

i don't think you understand what i am writing
I'm fairly sure I got it. Care to elaborate more on the subject though.
but you didn't

what i meant was people are too dumb to know how to handle a zilean in low elo games, which is why you can silently climb to high elo with zilean, and zilean only by letting others carry you.
Kanye West

xRa1n wrote:

WTF, who bans talon xD
lol, i ban things like lee sin, lux, orianna and jarvan all the time to piss people off. banning things you don't like to play against is a good strategy.

banning things like blitz and amumu are a waste; they're easy to play against. imo things like jarvan and lee sin are harder to play against.
Vulf

maal wrote:

what i meant was people are too dumb to know how to handle a zilean in low elo games, which is why you can silently climb to high elo with zilean, and zilean only by letting others carry you.
What? With that logic you can play anything and "let others carry you". That's like saying every single support, tank, and utility mage main that is diamond was carried there. It's not like some of these champions have game changing abilities or anything. =\

You don't have to be a carry to carry games.
Naoki N

Kanye West wrote:

xRa1n wrote:

WTF, who bans talon xD
lol, i ban things like lee sin, lux, orianna and jarvan all the time to piss people off. banning things you don't like to play against is a good strategy.

banning things like blitz and amumu are a waste; they're easy to play against. imo things like jarvan and lee sin are harder to play against.
What about Twisted Fate?
Jordan

DaDeceptive0ne wrote:

Keep it up. Everyone who haz a main, needs at least one or two side champs.
I didn't say I can only play him, just I pick him whenever I can given good circumstances :p
Hika
I'd say banning TF is just as worthless as banning someone like Shen, Thresh or Blitzcrank because he's not that hard to kill off.
Vulf
I ban blitz because I know my bottom lane can't handle it, and I don't want to play against it. Only takes one decent grab to turn the whole game around.
Kanye West
yeah but if you ward properly, it's blatantly obvious when a blitz is going for a grab and you can counterplay it. plus if someone picks blitz, go support zyra, block every grab with plants, and poke him down. he can't do anything in lane against you.

plus, many people are terrible with him and will be useless all game anyways.

Hika wrote:

I'd say banning TF is just as worthless as banning someone like Shen, Thresh or Blitzcrank because he's not that hard to kill off.
you must play against really, really bad TF players then
Vulf
That would require me to play bottom lane and I'm a top lane and jungle main. Problem is you are taking that risk of trusting people in solo queue and from my experience you can't trust anyone with anything. Better off removing the risk by banning it.
those
But you can't ban everything you don't trust. And there are much riskier champions than Blitzcrank (imo).
Vulf
Except that I can because Blitz is one of the few champions I don't trust on either side so it doesn't really matter. I don't want to play against it so I ban it and I don't trust anyone ever to play it properly or have a brain to lane against one.
Kanye West
haha that's true, blitz is one of those champions that your teammate is always useless at playing but when the enemy gets him, they instawin unless you counterpick him
those
Shaco too. And Riven.
SiFly_old
Wait. you were supposed to write funny 3 letter words with the bans?

You guys really have to improve on how the banning system works, and don't spell the always used TSM.
Kanye West
TSM is easy though because then you can just ban Teemo, Shaco, and Master Yi. THEY'LL NEVER SEE IT COMING
GeeNX

Hika wrote:

I'd say banning TF is just as worthless as banning someone like Shen, Thresh or Blitzcrank because he's not that hard to kill off.
Keep the weed off pls
Hika
i'm probably smoking weed because today was the first time I saw a good TF
gg
maal

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

what i meant was people are too dumb to know how to handle a zilean in low elo games, which is why you can silently climb to high elo with zilean, and zilean only by letting others carry you.
What? With that logic you can play anything and "let others carry you". That's like saying every single support, tank, and utility mage main that is diamond was carried there. It's not like some of these champions have game changing abilities or anything. =\

You don't have to be a carry to carry games.
haha zilean's ult not game changing


every thought of a comedy carreer?
GeeNX
If you suck you always can play Zilean with a pro Vayne
those


Why you gotta put down the Zileans?
Kanye West
There are already a Zilean comments about him in this thread, too much hate.
GeeNX
I like Zilean, but I just meant that in the case u suck, u can press R
maal

xRa1n wrote:

I like Zilean, but I just meant that in the case u suck, u can press R
which is what i've been saying the whole time
Kanye West
no one got my pun :(
ReVeNg3r
Devalix_old
Now I just gotta win 3/5 games

DaDeceptive0ne
Yay! I played a game with Guardsman Bob yesterday!
I was really nervous <3 But I managed to carry it :)

Tsukiko T
The most kawaii is Lulu <3
Vulf

maal wrote:

haha zilean's ult not game changing
every thought of a comedy carreer?
Because giving someone a free GA isn't good at all and can't turn a team fight around? It's not like GA has been nerfed like 4 times because of what it does.
GeeNX
Diamond played Karma Jungle LCS
GG
maal

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

haha zilean's ult not game changing
every thought of a comedy carreer?
Because giving someone a free GA isn't good at all and can't turn a team fight around? It's not like GA has been nerfed like 4 times because of what it does.
wtf are you talking about
Vulf
Apparently that was too complicated for you.

Zilean is a niche pick for the most part. You are saying Zilean cannot carry games or rather the people who pick him are carried. So much wrong in that statement.

You don't need to be doing the damages to carry a game. Simply providing the utility to the team can be enough to win games. Look at Orianna, Lulu, Malphite, Maokai and Janna.
boat
omg riot should definetely bring back zileans "silver bolts" skill I mean every support should have a hypercarry kit why else would you pick them as support #riotpls
Vulf
That's my point. You can carry a game as any role or any champion. Zilean is not excluded from that.

Have you ever heard the term "support is bottom lane"?
maal
omfg you are simply misreading every fucking thing jesus christ i give up; not even a thorough explanation will get through your goddamn head.


and yes, i posted that quote a looooooong time back son
tyrael6192

Vulf wrote:

Apparently that was too complicated for you.

Zilean is a niche pick for the most part. You are saying Zilean cannot carry games or rather the people who pick him are carried. So much wrong in that statement.

You don't need to be doing the damages to carry a game. Simply providing the utility to the team can be enough to win games. Look at Orianna, Lulu, Malphite, Maokai and Janna.
that's actually not what he's saying at all, you just failed to detect the sarcasm in his "ult not game changing". why is this argument still going nobody even plays zileen

KANYE I NOTICED YOUR PUN
maal

tyrael6192 wrote:

Vulf wrote:

Apparently that was too complicated for you.

Zilean is a niche pick for the most part. You are saying Zilean cannot carry games or rather the people who pick him are carried. So much wrong in that statement.

You don't need to be doing the damages to carry a game. Simply providing the utility to the team can be enough to win games. Look at Orianna, Lulu, Malphite, Maokai and Janna.
that's actually not what he's saying at all, you just failed to detect the sarcasm in his "ult not game changing". why is this argument still going nobody even plays zileen

KANYE I NOTICED YOUR PUN
WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5 :(
Vulf

maal wrote:

omfg you are simply misreading every fucking thing jesus christ i give up; not even a thorough explanation will get through your goddamn head.


and yes, i posted that quote a looooooong time back son
No need to be so hostile. With the way you post it's very hard for me to take anything you say seriously. Sarcasm or not. With how many bad people that play this game you can see how easily it is for anyone to make that assumption..

My point still stands in the end anyways.

tyrael6192 wrote:

that's actually not what he's saying at all, you just failed to detect the sarcasm in his "ult not game changing". why is this argument still going nobody even plays zileen
Nothing wrong with discussing champions. This thread isn't only about posting end game results you know.

I play Zilean. He is one of my favorite champions.

Edit: spelling, quote fixes.
Sync
the only time I see zilean is in bot games

I fucking hate zilean bot

his bombs hurt early and his ult is so gay ;_;
those
1v1 me
Konei
Never saw Zilean lastly, lol. Only in ARAM.
Nofool

maal wrote:

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5 :(
there is another team that you have to put in gold ;_;
Vulf

Sync wrote:

the only time I see zilean is in bot games

I fucking hate zilean bot

his bombs hurt early and his ult is so gay ;_;
That's why i like playing him lol.

His ult is so troll. Like Shen.
BrokenArrow

Nofool wrote:

maal wrote:

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5 :(
there is another team that you have to put in gold ;_;
We should start using some voice chatting software for our next games, it'd help us improving a lot and is much more fun
If we even manage to gather 5 people at once in the first place
JesusYamato
I'm sorry i don't really have time to play these days
maal

Nofool wrote:

maal wrote:

btw i am now in gold 5


in team 5v5 :(
there is another team that you have to put in gold ;_;
hah i think it's best i dont play so much lately, seeing as i lose a lot because of poor match ups 90% of the time


and BA is correct yeah
Nofool

BrokenArrow wrote:

We should start using some voice chatting software for our next games, it'd help us improving a lot and is much more fun
If we even manage to gather 5 people at once in the first place
i can't do anything for 2 more weeks sry ,_, but i don't think that this is hard to find a good adc é_è
and if you need a slot you can kick me and reinvit later n_n
ItsukiKun

Vulf wrote:

maal wrote:

haha zilean's ult not game changing
every thought of a comedy carreer?
Because giving someone a free GA isn't good at all and can't turn a team fight around? It's not like GA has been nerfed like 4 times because of what it does.
lol I remember that time when I trolled everyone as fiora with a GA and 45% lifesteal...
dies
Enemy: that GA isn't gonna save you
uses ult after revive
10 seconds later... Triple Kill
Enemy: wtf?!

GA is useful. Period. And so zilean's ult is, too if used properly.
tyrael6192
nobody ever said it wasn't jesus christ

also this

http://imgur.com/gallery/dyahk

im crying

Kanye West
Zilean's ult is better than a GA, the amount of health your target revives with scales with AP so you can basically revive someone will full health. You can also get off two ults in a teamfight if you liberally use your W.
maal

tyrael6192 wrote:

nobody ever said it wasn't jesus christ

also this

http://imgur.com/gallery/dyahk

im crying

no quinn Q.Q
Jordan


lol feels good to play with two platinum smurfs
maal
why is vayne rushing lw

dumb vayne


oh.... and.. stinger???????????????????????????????
ItsukiKun
just saying cuz people are saying that zilean sucks but since his ult is practically a better GA so it proves to be illogical for them to say that.
SiFly_old

Nofool wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

We should start using some voice chatting software for our next games, it'd help us improving a lot and is much more fun
If we even manage to gather 5 people at once in the first place
i can't do anything for 2 more weeks sry ,_, but i don't think that this is hard to find a good adc é_è
and if you need a slot you can kick me and reinvit later n_n
<- Gold adc. Though often playing on w0p(also gold) or moonpower instead of my SiFly account
Vulf

tyrael6192 wrote:

nobody ever said it wasn't jesus christ]
So what lesson did you learn today? If someone is going to try and be sarcastic without any indications ( IN TEXT ON THE INTERNET) you're going to have a bad time.

Also if you are going to say X champion sucks then prepare to have a discussion about it.
Kanye West
TF sucks
Vulf
With this games community I wouldn't be surprised if that starts popping up on the GD after they "fix" his passive next patch. Kinda like people saying blue Ezreal was dead when they removed 10 AD from SoTEL
GeeNX


WATCH IT, just awesome
tyrael6192

Vulf wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

nobody ever said it wasn't jesus christ]
So what lesson did you learn today? If someone is going to try and be sarcastic without any indications ( IN TEXT ON THE INTERNET) you're going to have a bad time.

Also if you are going to say X champion sucks then prepare to have a discussion about it.
vulf ur sarcasm detector needs some work done hue

i said nobody played him not that he sucked
Vulf

tyrael6192 wrote:

vulf ur sarcasm detector needs some work done hue

i said nobody played him not that he sucked
Just because you know the guy outside of these forums and you're familiar with him doesn't mean we all are. Simply saying what he said was enough to confuse people. Someone else was confused by it too.

You didn't say he sucked but someone else did. That last line wasn't directed towards you at all.

EDIT:

I think we have derailed this thread enough. I understand that he didn't really mean what he said, and I will be sure to carefully read post the next time.
Backfire

Vulf wrote:

Also if you are going to say X champion sucks then prepare to have a discussion about it.
ww sux :33333333333333333333
DaDeceptive0ne


Okay! I'm too dumb to link it!

postscriptum: http://youtu.be/qQGuoSzitbs

PSSSSSSS.: LawL i did it! finally!
bmin11

DaDeceptive0ne wrote:

Vulf

Backfire wrote:

ww sux :33333333333333333333
Except he kinda does. I've already explained why awhile back. He is getting a rework in both his kit and visually. I'm kinda excited. Though it's not going to be openly discussed by Riot until after World Finals at the earliest.

Source:

Kit Tweaks - http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... 8#39851838

Visual Upgrade - http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... 0#40120090 (actually a list of some champions on the VU list enjoy) :)

I spend too much time on the LoL forums lol
maal
Backfire
I played a few ranked games today.

2 times I play support, every lane feeds, we lose.

1 time I play diano easy-mode free win, and I win.

Maybe I just need to only play Diana.
Creyslz
Has anyone ever considered creating ranked 5's teams of just Osu players? I think we have enough players to organize an Osu League tournament.
Justykanna

Creyslz wrote:

Has anyone ever considered creating ranked 5's teams of just Osu players? I think we have enough players to organize an Osu League tournament.
Pretty sure it's been mentioned several times and I'm also pretty sure there is a team or two hovering around.
No idea what server / rank tier though.
Vulf
I was on a team with some friends, but they didn't want to play seriously. Trolling normals is one thing but trolling ranked 5's is kinda stupid lol
Jordan


WHY CAN'T I HAVE 100 LP

Everytime I get close I lose the next match
DaDeceptive0ne
Thx for editing mah Post :'D @bmin11

And ye, would be funny to do so. So we can do some fights between Osu!-Players and to be honest, i just wanna have fun nothing else.

Cheerz, Deceptive~
GeeNX
on EUW there's a team already

Btw you should check out the videos since they are really good....

For the people who don't know post youtube links

You have to go to "share" and then u have to copy this
zerothefallen
there is like 2 osu na teams both like low silver/high bronze


thats why im not part of it lol
GeeNX
Are you meaning you're not playing with them because they can't keep up?
Kanye West

Backfire wrote:

I played a few ranked games today.

2 times I play support, every lane feeds, we lose.

1 time I play diano easy-mode free win, and I win.

Maybe I just need to only play Diana.
Play support Diana. You can seriously win with playing any support in solo queue as long as you snowball your lane.

I've played support Kha'zix, support Jayce, support Caitlyn and support Jarvan and still won games.
SiFly_old

Kanye West wrote:

Backfire wrote:

I played a few ranked games today.

2 times I play support, every lane feeds, we lose.

1 time I play diano easy-mode free win, and I win.

Maybe I just need to only play Diana.
Play support Diana. You can seriously win with playing any support in solo queue as long as you snowball your lane.

I've played support Kha'zix, support Jayce, support Caitlyn and support Jarvan and still won games.
I've won a ranked as soraka jungle. Doesn't mean people are happy that i picked it, same goes with those other picks you listed, though jarvan might be decent as support if the enemies don't have jumps/dashes.
Kanye West
Sure they may rage at you in champ select but if you actually do well, they'll stop complaining.There's a difference between trolling and playing unconventionally but still playing to win.

High elo solo queue players do the same thing. Only Rengar plays support Rengar and carries games, and SpamHappy aka Zekent plays support Poppy.
GeeNX
Yorick support.

Has almost all. Too much harrass, too much sustain. And his ult is freaking op. Only Q a bit useless, I played him on s2 a lot
boat

SiFly wrote:

I've won a ranked as soraka jungle. Doesn't mean people are happy that i picked it, same goes with those other picks you listed, though jarvan might be decent as support if the enemies don't have jumps/dashes.
It doesn't necessarily work backwards. Not the same concept.

If you don't prioritize excessive ward coverage, alternatively sustain or generally slightly stronger/more CC you can always use that extra position to get some more dps and a different kind of utility. Just about anyone clearly "works" as a "support", but you would generally have to favor champs with either good base damage or good utility. Orianna and zyra have CC and utility, elise has health % damage, your jungler can get aegis and everyone should at least buy a few wards once in a while. Of course you can build damage increasing items on a support as well, but it should be obvious why say elise support, given nami doesn't land an amazing bubble or doesn't have her ult up, can be far more useful in a teamfight.

In uncoordinated play such as low level yoloqueue you'd often benefit more from significantly more damage than a squishy ward-bot. And if you're bad at the general support champions and are forced to support anyways I'd rather have you play a champion you're good with despite it not being what people would generally pick. Chances are you'll do better with that pick than if you'd play first time blitz and get 500 fieldgoals in a twenty minute game.

People don't like unconventional picks because just like this community, everyone are xenophobes. Whenever you try something outside of the meta people either assume that you suck and don't know jack or that you've seen it on some stream and expect the outcome to be the same. Just go ahead and pick whatever you do well with. It's a game, froggen wont come knocking on your door ready to beat you up just because you played jungle anivia.
Backfire
I won another ranked with Diana.

Is this character just hard to play against? Me and my friend duo queued as Akali mid and Diana jungle and it was like...we'd just jump on people and they'd instantly die. Seems pretty stupidly over powered against crappy bronze kids.

Zac support also seems fairly viable in solo queue. Especially if you get something like amumu for your jungler. Infinite gap-closers.

Anyways, I do usually play support and my carry always seems to pick the wrong things, unfortunately. (MF vs. Vayne? No please. The guy had Cait too.)
boat
Both diana and akali are assasins, of course you'll rack up kills with both, and with a big gold advantage victory often comes as well.

Then one day comes a team clever enough to get this thing called MR/CC and focus you down. I like diana as well and got a somewhat of a positive win/loss ratio with her, but both are very vulnerable to cc and reliant on the enemy team either being pants on head retarded or only have damage from one hypercarry. Your job is pretty much to either pick somebody off or jump through the frontline and kill a high priority target, where as the former is most commonly only applicable when playing against knobheads. You got no innate escape but your flash (or ulti to a minion if you're lucky enough to have one nearby), play more than two games and you'll start noticing how she drops of severely against loads of bruisers or getting shut down.
ouranhshc

zerothefallen wrote:

there is like 2 osu na teams both like low silver/high bronze


thats why im not part of it lol
Douchebag move
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