2016-12-03 01:28 Nysrogh: hi bruh
2016-12-03 01:28 Nysrogh: can you mod my map?
2016-12-03 01:28 Nysrogh: i can do m4m
2016-12-03 01:28 Nysrogh: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/795616 Zedd - Find You ft, Matthew Koma, Myriam Bryant]
2016-12-03 01:28 Protastic101: oboi, nice song
2016-12-03 01:28 Protastic101: Can we irc?
2016-12-03 01:28 Protastic101: I'm too lazy to forum post lol
2016-12-03 01:28 Nysrogh: yep
2016-12-03 01:29 Nysrogh: lol
2016-12-03 01:29 Protastic101: Alright, just give me a second please
2016-12-03 01:29 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 01:29 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 01:29 Nysrogh: okaa
2016-12-03 01:29 Nysrogh: do you know how to do hitsounds xD?
2016-12-03 01:29 Nysrogh: im so bad to add that
2016-12-03 01:29 Nysrogh: T.TTTTTT
2016-12-03 01:29 Protastic101: yeah, currently writing a miniguide for hitsounds XD
2016-12-03 01:30 Nysrogh: :v uh brah can you do histounds for my map ASKLGSADJKL?
2016-12-03 01:30 Nysrogh: THAT HITSOUNDS I PUSH
2016-12-03 01:30 Nysrogh: ARE
2016-12-03 01:30 Nysrogh: SO BAD
2016-12-03 01:30 Nysrogh: BRAHH
2016-12-03 01:30 Protastic101: rippp
2016-12-03 01:30 Nysrogh: you are a nominator?
2016-12-03 01:30 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 01:30 Protastic101: I'm too lazy to hitsound, but I can send you samples to use
2016-12-03 01:30 Nysrogh: lol
2016-12-03 01:31 Protastic101: :^)
2016-12-03 01:31 Nysrogh: :c i don't understand how to xD use
2016-12-03 01:31 Nysrogh: that
2016-12-03 01:31 Nysrogh: in all maps i ranked T.T
2016-12-03 01:31 Nysrogh: other people
2016-12-03 01:31 Nysrogh: do
2016-12-03 01:31 Nysrogh: :vvvv
2016-12-03 01:32 Nysrogh: dunno lest just do the IRC i wait you
2016-12-03 01:32 Protastic101: yeah, sorry, almost done
2016-12-03 01:37 Nysrogh: ACTION :VVVV
2016-12-03 01:37 Protastic101: alright, dling the map
2016-12-03 01:38 Nysrogh: KK
2016-12-03 01:38 Nysrogh: BRAH
2016-12-03 01:38 Nysrogh: THANKS
2016-12-03 01:38 Protastic101:
http://puu.sh/sCziK.png uh, why do you have two of the same mp3s?
2016-12-03 01:38 Nysrogh: oh i think
2016-12-03 01:39 Nysrogh: i
2016-12-03 01:39 Nysrogh: eliminated
2016-12-03 01:39 Nysrogh: one
2016-12-03 01:39 Nysrogh: upsss
2016-12-03 01:39 Protastic101: lol, just delete the one you're not using from the folder and update the map later
2016-12-03 01:40 Protastic101: Btw, for the HP of 4K Hard, I'd consider making that at least 7.5
2016-12-03 01:40 Protastic101: 7 is pretty easy to mash randomly lol
2016-12-03 01:40 Nysrogh: xDD
2016-12-03 01:40 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 01:40 Protastic101: How large of a spread are you planning?
2016-12-03 01:40 Protastic101: 2 diffs for 2 keymodes?
2016-12-03 01:41 Nysrogh: 4K HD 4K NM 4K MX 7K HD 7K MX
2016-12-03 01:41 Nysrogh: thats all
2016-12-03 01:41 Nysrogh: i updated the map
2016-12-03 01:41 Protastic101: You'll need to make a 7K NM for the set to be rankable
2016-12-03 01:42 Nysrogh: hmm is neccesary?
2016-12-03 01:42 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 01:42 Protastic101: It is
2016-12-03 01:42 Protastic101: Each keymode is treated as a separate mode, meaning you need to have an equal amount of diffs for each
2016-12-03 01:42 Nysrogh: so lazy to do a NM
2016-12-03 01:42 Nysrogh: going to get a GD
2016-12-03 01:42 Nysrogh: XD
2016-12-03 01:42 Protastic101: lol rip
2016-12-03 01:42 Nysrogh: :VVVV
2016-12-03 01:42 Nysrogh: so need help in the 4K HD patterns
2016-12-03 01:43 Protastic101: ok, OD/HP for 4k Normal should be set to 7/7 in my opinion
2016-12-03 01:43 Protastic101: lemme go through general stuff first lol
2016-12-03 01:43 Protastic101: also, Kamila did a nice job with the background
2016-12-03 01:43 Nysrogh: ohhh
2016-12-03 01:43 Protastic101: fits the song perfectly <3
2016-12-03 01:43 Nysrogh: why i have 5/5
2016-12-03 01:43 Nysrogh: XDD
2016-12-03 01:43 Nysrogh: 7u7
2016-12-03 01:43 Protastic101: 5/5 ezpz
2016-12-03 01:43 Protastic101: need OD/HP 9001/9001
2016-12-03 01:43 Protastic101: ACTION gets shot
2016-12-03 01:44 Nysrogh: hahaha
2016-12-03 01:44 Nysrogh: OH
2016-12-03 01:44 Nysrogh: FUCKING
2016-12-03 01:44 Nysrogh: OSU!
2016-12-03 01:44 Nysrogh: I HATE YOUU
2016-12-03 01:44 Nysrogh: MEEE
2016-12-03 01:44 Nysrogh: MEE
2016-12-03 01:44 Protastic101: I'd recommend the same diff settings of 4K Hard to be the same as 7K hard
2016-12-03 01:44 Protastic101: so OD/HP 8/7.5 or something
2016-12-03 01:44 Protastic101: what'd osu do
2016-12-03 01:44 Nysrogh: :c isn't give me the /me
2016-12-03 01:44 Nysrogh: D.
2016-12-03 01:44 Protastic101: rip
2016-12-03 01:45 Nysrogh: then 7.5 HP in the 4K HD?
2016-12-03 01:45 Protastic101: yes
2016-12-03 01:45 Protastic101: and 7K hard too
2016-12-03 01:45 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 01:45 Protastic101: oboi
2016-12-03 01:45 Nysrogh: the 7 OD is good?
2016-12-03 01:45 Protastic101: please check Aimod
2016-12-03 01:45 Protastic101: OD 7 is too easy
2016-12-03 01:45 Protastic101: I'd use OD 7.5
2016-12-03 01:46 Nysrogh: do it
2016-12-03 01:46 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 01:47 Nysrogh: i have OD 8 in 7K HD
2016-12-03 01:47 Protastic101: I'd also set that to OD 7.5
2016-12-03 01:48 Protastic101:
http://puu.sh/sCzAO.mp3 Here is the compressed and rankable mp3
2016-12-03 01:48 Protastic101: replace the current mp3 in the folder with the one above
2016-12-03 01:48 Protastic101: double check the offset too as it may not be the same
2016-12-03 01:50 Nysrogh: D::::
2016-12-03 01:50 Nysrogh: NOOO
2016-12-03 01:50 Nysrogh: ._.
2016-12-03 01:50 Nysrogh: i need to moved all
2016-12-03 01:50 Nysrogh: :v
2016-12-03 01:50 Nysrogh: why the other not?
2016-12-03 01:50 Protastic101: huh?
2016-12-03 01:50 Nysrogh: ah didn't need to changed the offset
2016-12-03 01:50 Nysrogh: is the same
2016-12-03 01:50 Nysrogh: time
2016-12-03 01:50 Protastic101: ok
2016-12-03 01:51 Nysrogh: ACTION got alived
2016-12-03 01:51 Protastic101: lol
2016-12-03 01:51 Protastic101: Also, the mp3 quality is meh, I'd suggest trying to find a higher quality one
2016-12-03 01:51 Nysrogh: is 320
2016-12-03 01:51 Nysrogh: :_:
2016-12-03 01:52 Protastic101:
http://puu.sh/sCzIE.jpg yes, but the actual quality is like 128kbps
2016-12-03 01:52 Nysrogh: ready changed the mp3
2016-12-03 01:52 Nysrogh: what
2016-12-03 01:52 Protastic101: I'm just saying the mp3 quality isn't as good as it could be
2016-12-03 01:52 Nysrogh: i got cheated
2016-12-03 01:52 Nysrogh: xDD
2016-12-03 01:52 Protastic101: lmao
2016-12-03 01:53 Nysrogh: :Can i keep it that way? I do not know how bad it sounds
2016-12-03 01:53 Nysrogh: :v
2016-12-03 01:53 Protastic101: You can, but I'd look for a better one if possible
2016-12-03 01:54 Nysrogh: i trying to get a better one
2016-12-03 01:54 Nysrogh: later
2016-12-03 01:54 Nysrogh: :VVVV
2016-12-03 01:54 Protastic101: 01:40:820 - I would suggest a preview point here
2016-12-03 01:54 Protastic101: go to the top part of the editor where the file/edit/view/compose/design/timing things are
2016-12-03 01:55 Protastic101: from there timing -> go all the way down and hit "set as preview point"
2016-12-03 01:55 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 01:56 Protastic101: I'd suggest reading Feru's mapping tutorial in the osu mania subforums if you haven't already, as it goes through all the general song setup so other people don't have to
2016-12-03 01:57 Nysrogh: i forgot so much things
2016-12-03 01:57 Nysrogh: bro
2016-12-03 01:57 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 01:57 Nysrogh: im just a old mapper
2016-12-03 01:57 Protastic101: rip
2016-12-03 01:57 Protastic101: Anyways
2016-12-03 01:57 Protastic101: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1145292 Zedd - Find You ft, Matthew Koma, Myriam Bryant [4K Hard]]
2016-12-03 01:57 Protastic101: 00:30:507 (30507|3,30507|2,30507|1) - Why is this a triple?\
2016-12-03 01:57 Protastic101: tbh, this entire piano beginning is pretty inconsistent
2016-12-03 01:58 Protastic101: 00:10:585 (10585|0,10585|2,11054|1,11054|2,12460|1,12460|2) - like for example, I get that you're mapping the synths here, but they don't need an extra note in my opinion
2016-12-03 01:59 Nysrogh: kk isn't need to be a doble
2016-12-03 01:59 Nysrogh: brah how i can separate more the editor?
2016-12-03 01:59 Protastic101: 00:12:929 (12929|3) - another thing is this LN which you map to the synth here, but didn't map at 00:07:070 -
2016-12-03 01:59 Protastic101: the timeline zoom?
2016-12-03 01:59 Nysrogh: yep
2016-12-03 01:59 Protastic101: top left right under compose
2016-12-03 01:59 Protastic101: there's a + and - button
2016-12-03 02:00 Nysrogh: thanks
2016-12-03 02:00 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 02:00 Protastic101: + zooms in (spaces out the lines), and - zooms out (squishes them all together)
2016-12-03 02:00 Protastic101: 00:15:800 (15800|0) - this note is unsnapped and should be at 00:15:741 -
2016-12-03 02:00 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:01 Protastic101: 00:17:616 - 00:18:085 - why did you stop mapping the piano here? it breaks the flow that you've already set up since the player will be subdividing into 1/2 beats in their minds while playing
2016-12-03 02:01 Nysrogh: i used one note in reds
2016-12-03 02:01 Nysrogh: and two or three in the white
2016-12-03 02:01 Nysrogh: i don't hear the piano
2016-12-03 02:01 Nysrogh: uh
2016-12-03 02:01 Protastic101: It's the same piano as the beginning
2016-12-03 02:01 Nysrogh: use LN right there?
2016-12-03 02:02 Protastic101: no, I'm just sayign to add single notes there
2016-12-03 02:02 Protastic101: saying*
2016-12-03 02:02 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6715100 like this
2016-12-03 02:02 Nysrogh: ahh
2016-12-03 02:02 Nysrogh: i got it
2016-12-03 02:02 Nysrogh: ready senpai
2016-12-03 02:03 Protastic101: 00:07:070 (7070|2) - also, tbh, the very first beat of this song is too quiet to need a triple note
2016-12-03 02:03 Protastic101: I'd just remove the note I highlighted above to make a [14] chord
2016-12-03 02:03 Protastic101: 00:16:445 (16445|3,16445|1,16445|0) - as for this, I think it's fine to just be a double for the piano
2016-12-03 02:03 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:04 Protastic101: Or you can reduce all the piano notes in this section to only singles and accent the chords like 00:16:445 - 00:18:320 - 00:20:195 - with doubles
2016-12-03 02:04 Protastic101: which I think is best tbh
2016-12-03 02:04 Protastic101: cause the double-single-double pattern atm doesn't have much reason for me right now
2016-12-03 02:04 Nysrogh: hmm
2016-12-03 02:04 Protastic101: 00:19:726 (19726|3,19726|0,19726|1) - I also don't understand why this is a triple when the piano is pretty much the same
2016-12-03 02:04 Nysrogh: i think if i reduced that all
2016-12-03 02:04 Nysrogh: is going to be so much easy
2016-12-03 02:05 Nysrogh: and the piano
2016-12-03 02:05 Nysrogh: is sounds
2016-12-03 02:05 Nysrogh: hard in the white
2016-12-03 02:05 Nysrogh: D:
2016-12-03 02:05 Nysrogh: uhm kk my error
2016-12-03 02:05 Protastic101: I understand that, but for one, the chart doesn't need to be difficult; the song isn't giving you anything hard to map, so it's ok to go easy
2016-12-03 02:06 Nysrogh: ok
2016-12-03 02:06 Nysrogh: i got that
2016-12-03 02:06 Nysrogh: senpai
2016-12-03 02:06 Protastic101: 00:20:663 (20663|1,20663|3,20898|3,20898|2,21132|2,21132|1,21601|2,21601|3,21835|3,21835|2,22070|2,22070|1) - also, for these notes, again, with flow, suddenly breaking the 1/2 rhythm feels awkward and unnatural as the player isn't going to be expecting you to map to vocals all of a sudden
2016-12-03 02:06 Protastic101: 00:20:195 (20195|0) - this LN also shouldn't be here since you haven't mapped any other piano chords using LNs
2016-12-03 02:07 Nysrogh: 00:10:351 (10351|3,10351|1,10585|2,10585|0,10820|3,10820|2,11054|2,11054|1) - this part as example
2016-12-03 02:07 Nysrogh: i think is need double note
2016-12-03 02:07 Nysrogh: think eliminated the LN?
2016-12-03 02:07 Protastic101: There are different ways to differentiate a sound and make it stand out
2016-12-03 02:08 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:08 Protastic101: for 00:10:351 (10351|3,10351|1,10585|2,10585|0,10820|3,10820|2,11054|2,11054|1) - right here, I think the double notes are overkill. What you could do instead is use an LN to represent the change from short notes and piano to longer sustained synth, like this
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67151252016-12-03 02:09 Protastic101: Of course, disregard the placement of the short notes as I was too lazy to actually make them proper lol
2016-12-03 02:10 Nysrogh: hmm
2016-12-03 02:10 Nysrogh: it so akward
2016-12-03 02:10 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 02:10 Nysrogh:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67151282016-12-03 02:10 Nysrogh: i like this
2016-12-03 02:10 Nysrogh: :v
2016-12-03 02:10 Protastic101: whatever works for you, although I'm just trying to get at the fact here that you don't need doubles for the synths
2016-12-03 02:11 Nysrogh: hmmm
2016-12-03 02:11 Nysrogh: i try your pattern
2016-12-03 02:11 Nysrogh: wait
2016-12-03 02:12 Protastic101: my pattern is shit, don't actually try it lol. It's just a placeholder
2016-12-03 02:12 Nysrogh: xDD
2016-12-03 02:12 Protastic101: but work around with the LNs and find what you think plays best I guess
2016-12-03 02:13 Nysrogh:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6715142 i like this one
2016-12-03 02:13 Protastic101: go for it
2016-12-03 02:13 Nysrogh: owo
2016-12-03 02:14 Protastic101: also, not related at all, but how to you read in the editor with a 1/8 snap?
2016-12-03 02:14 Protastic101: I ded just trying to use a 1/4 snap in the editor sometimes lol
2016-12-03 02:14 Nysrogh: im just a god
2016-12-03 02:14 Protastic101: XD
2016-12-03 02:14 Nysrogh: inhuman
2016-12-03 02:14 Nysrogh: brah
2016-12-03 02:14 Nysrogh: oh its earthquake
2016-12-03 02:14 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 02:14 Nysrogh: ._:
2016-12-03 02:14 Nysrogh: :_:_:_:
2016-12-03 02:14 Protastic101: Wait wut
2016-12-03 02:15 Protastic101: so casual lmao
2016-12-03 02:15 Nysrogh: XDD
2016-12-03 02:15 Nysrogh: its all the day earthquake
2016-12-03 02:15 Protastic101: "o, earthquake, normal day then" XD
2016-12-03 02:15 Nysrogh: in chile
2016-12-03 02:15 Nysrogh: brah
2016-12-03 02:15 Nysrogh: XDD
2016-12-03 02:15 Nysrogh: yep
2016-12-03 02:15 Nysrogh: xddd
2016-12-03 02:15 Nysrogh: i think is 4.0 or 5.0
2016-12-03 02:15 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 02:15 Protastic101: o dam
2016-12-03 02:16 Nysrogh: im inhuman not scary for me
2016-12-03 02:16 Nysrogh: *O*
2016-12-03 02:16 Protastic101: owo
2016-12-03 02:16 Protastic101: 00:22:538 (22538|3,22538|1,22773|2,22773|0,23476|1,23476|0) - and similar notes like it, I'd just consider using single notes and accenting the beginning of each measure like 00:22:070 (22070|2,22070|1) - with doubles only
2016-12-03 02:17 Protastic101: 00:26:757 (26757|2,26757|1) - I'
2016-12-03 02:17 Protastic101: rip hitting enter too soon
2016-12-03 02:17 Protastic101: 00:26:757 (26757|2,26757|1) - I'd also consider making this a [12] chord as the current 4 note long jack here 00:26:288 (26288|2,26523|2,26757|2,26991|2) - is pretty uncomfortable/unnatural to play imo
2016-12-03 02:18 Nysrogh: xDD
2016-12-03 02:18 Protastic101: 00:40:820 (40820|3) - You don't really need this LN at all since you've already mapped the synths with 00:40:820 (40820|0,41054|2,41288|0,41523|2) - , so remove?
2016-12-03 02:18 Nysrogh: what is 12 chord
2016-12-03 02:18 Nysrogh: bro?
2016-12-03 02:18 Nysrogh: :v
2016-12-03 02:18 Protastic101: 00:42:460 (42460|0,42460|2,42695|1,42695|2) - Also, make this single notes since they're only synths like at 00:41:054 (41054|2,41288|0) -
2016-12-03 02:19 Protastic101: oh, columns 1|2|3|4 in mania
2016-12-03 02:19 Nysrogh: ahhh
2016-12-03 02:19 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 02:19 Protastic101: a [12] chord is just a double in columns 1 and 2
2016-12-03 02:19 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:20 Protastic101: 00:42:929 (42929|2,42929|3,42929|0) - I also don't see why this is a triple note when 00:42:226 (42226|0,42226|2) - is the exact same sound, but only uses a double note
2016-12-03 02:20 Nysrogh: 00:40:820 (40820|1,40820|0,41054|2,41288|0,41523|1,41523|2,41991|1) - and then move the
2016-12-03 02:20 Protastic101: You have to remain consistent on how you chord your sounds
2016-12-03 02:20 Nysrogh: 3 for 4?
2016-12-03 02:20 Protastic101: if you map a kick as a double, map all respective kicks as doubles, if you map a snare with a triple, map all respective snares with a triple, etc
2016-12-03 02:20 Protastic101: Yeah, 00:40:820 (40820|1,40820|0,41054|2,41288|0,41523|1,41523|2,41991|1) - rearrange this to use all 4 columns after removing 00:40:820 (40820|3) -
2016-12-03 02:20 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:22 Protastic101: 00:44:570 (44570|3,44570|0,44570|2) - only needs to be a double because there's only a kick sound here, as opposed to 00:44:101 (44101|1,44101|0,44101|3) - which is a triple note
2016-12-03 02:22 Protastic101: 00:47:851 (47851|2,47851|0) - this is a snare, which means it should be a triple note because you also mapped 00:44:101 (44101|1,44101|0,44101|3) - using three notes and they're the same sounds
2016-12-03 02:22 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:23 Protastic101: as I mentioned, please go through and relook your chord size consistency as it's often times pretty inconsistent and therefore hard to grasp the structure of the chart which'll confuse a lot of players while playing
2016-12-03 02:23 Nysrogh: i got it bro
2016-12-03 02:23 Protastic101: so basically, I'm not going to point out inconsistent chords anymore lol
2016-12-03 02:23 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:24 Protastic101: just remember, snares tend to be louder than kicks, and kicks tend to be louder than synths/hihats
2016-12-03 02:24 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:24 Protastic101: so chord them kind of in that order, like snares = triples, kicks = doubles, everything else with few exceptions (like a super loud booming synth) = single notes
2016-12-03 02:24 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:24 Nysrogh: :v
2016-12-03 02:25 Protastic101: 00:57:460 (57460|1,57460|0) - I don't know why there are notes here. it's not like there's a sound in the music for it
2016-12-03 02:25 Nysrogh: replace for single note?
2016-12-03 02:25 Nysrogh: or nothing here?
2016-12-03 02:25 Protastic101: 00:57:695 - right here, in this section (ending at 01:12:695 - ) watch for your chord size consistency again
2016-12-03 02:26 Protastic101: And yeah, remove the entire double
2016-12-03 02:26 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:27 Protastic101: 01:12:695 - beginning here though, I'd definitely look over the chords again, and consider only making the 1/1 (white ticks) beat doubles, and everything else singles, as I currently cannot understand why you're chording random 1/2's the way you are while testplaying, which is leaving me a very confused player lol
2016-12-03 02:27 Protastic101: 01:18:320 (78320|0,82070|0,82538|3) - random Lns that have no real meaning from the music?
2016-12-03 02:27 Protastic101: 01:27:226 (87226|0,87226|2,87226|1,87460|0,87460|2,87695|2,87695|0) - just some general advice over how to map LNs with short notes
2016-12-03 02:28 Protastic101: It seems pretty easy, but there's a lot of ways it can be mapped uncomfortably, which a lot of mappers (even experienced ones) do all the time
2016-12-03 02:28 Protastic101: So some general advice is to keep LNs and short notes on separate hands
2016-12-03 02:29 Protastic101: What I mean is that if you have an LN in column 1 (left hand), and you're playing short notes, put the short notes in column 3 or 4 (right hand) to avoid stressing the left hand too much at once
2016-12-03 02:29 Nysrogh: 01:18:320 (78320|0,82070|0,82538|3) - i used that for the vocals
2016-12-03 02:30 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6715203 so this for example would be cool when mapping (obviously very simplified, but you get what I mean)
2016-12-03 02:30 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:30 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6715205 on the other hand, isn't so recommended since it's difficult to hold an LN while single tapping on the same hand
2016-12-03 02:31 Protastic101: In the case that you DO have to map short notes on the same hand as an LN, it's better to put the LN on weaker fingers so the stronger fingers can single tap as they're more independent from the other fingers
2016-12-03 02:31 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6715209 is ok if you have no other choices of LN for example
2016-12-03 02:32 Protastic101:
http://puu.sh/sCB2v.jpg not so OK since it's difficult to hold an LN down with a strong finger, and single tap with a weaker finger, which depends on the strength of the first finger
2016-12-03 02:32 Nysrogh: yeah i understand
2016-12-03 02:33 Protastic101: 01:18:320 (78320|0,82070|0,82538|3) - as for this being for vocals, the vocal changes pitch at 01:18:788 - 01:19:023 - 01:19:491 - 01:19:726 - 01:19:960 - 01:20:195 - so the LN by itself isn't even representing the vocals properly
2016-12-03 02:34 Nysrogh: KK
2016-12-03 02:34 Nysrogh: but the double notes
2016-12-03 02:34 Nysrogh: are ok
2016-12-03 02:34 Nysrogh: right there?
2016-12-03 02:35 Protastic101: 01:18:554 (78554|2,78554|3) - doesn't have a reason to be a double since there's only a hihat sound here. I'd suggest control J with 01:18:554 (78554|2,78554|3,78788|1) - so that the double is on the white tick or main beat and the single on the weak upbeat
2016-12-03 02:35 Protastic101: other than that, doubles on the white ticks are all good
2016-12-03 02:35 Protastic101: Keep in mind that vocals are heavily ignored in Mania in favor of drums/instrumentals
2016-12-03 02:36 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:36 Protastic101: while it's ok to map them, most of the time, a better choice would be to map something that follows a clear and easy to sightread beat, like the kicks
2016-12-03 02:36 Protastic101: and from there build more complex rhythms and such
2016-12-03 02:37 Protastic101: Idk, if you ever need some help, taking a look at ranked maps is really helpful
2016-12-03 02:37 Protastic101: Cause you can see what the mapper did that makes the map easy and enjoyable to play/read
2016-12-03 02:37 Nysrogh: xD i have mapped ranks
2016-12-03 02:37 Nysrogh: maps*
2016-12-03 02:37 Nysrogh: rank*
2016-12-03 02:37 Nysrogh: but in this one
2016-12-03 02:37 Nysrogh: i so confused
2016-12-03 02:37 Nysrogh: so much differences
2016-12-03 02:37 Nysrogh: in the sounds
2016-12-03 02:37 Nysrogh: T.T
2016-12-03 02:38 Protastic101:
t/439430 really helpful to start out with
2016-12-03 02:38 Protastic101: and as I said, since it seems like you've just started mapping, a good idea is to start out by mapping a simple song with a simple beat
2016-12-03 02:39 Nysrogh: xDDD
2016-12-03 02:39 Protastic101: so you can get the hang of what flows well for you, what doesn't, what looks nice, how to make certain parts of the music stand out with your chart
2016-12-03 02:39 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:39 Nysrogh: the map style is changed a lot
2016-12-03 02:39 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 02:39 Protastic101: A song like this is actually pretty good to start out with since the drum is relatively simple and doesn't vary much in rhythm
2016-12-03 02:40 Nysrogh: :v my other account get baneed
2016-12-03 02:40 Nysrogh: is NaxelCL
2016-12-03 02:40 Protastic101: 01:40:820 - like for this Kiai right here, rather than focus on the synth, I'd just focus on the drums first and add the synth later
2016-12-03 02:40 Protastic101: o rip
2016-12-03 02:41 Protastic101: how'd you get banned lol
2016-12-03 02:41 Nysrogh: Insult loctav, and as he is Peppy's favorite ...
2016-12-03 02:42 Protastic101: >insult Loctav
2016-12-03 02:42 Protastic101: No wonder your account didn't survive long
2016-12-03 02:42 Protastic101: XD
2016-12-03 02:42 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 02:42 Nysrogh: LOCTAV IS A TYRANT
2016-12-03 02:42 Protastic101: shhh, big brother could be watching owo
2016-12-03 02:42 Nysrogh: haha
2016-12-03 02:42 Nysrogh: That year he did not let me in to the MWC and I got angry
2016-12-03 02:43 Nysrogh: Has cameras everywhere: vv
2016-12-03 02:43 Protastic101: o rip
2016-12-03 02:43 Nysrogh: Loctav knows where you live
2016-12-03 02:43 Nysrogh: xDD
2016-12-03 02:43 Protastic101: *inb4 banned from Germany* lol
2016-12-03 02:43 Nysrogh: and i have maps ranked in that account
2016-12-03 02:43 Nysrogh: lul
2016-12-03 02:44 Protastic101: rip af
2016-12-03 02:44 Nysrogh: after finally this irc mod
2016-12-03 02:44 Nysrogh: i going to sleep
2016-12-03 02:44 Nysrogh: is 05:44 here
2016-12-03 02:44 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 02:44 Protastic101: damnnn
2016-12-03 02:44 Protastic101: rip lol
2016-12-03 02:45 Protastic101: Is this your first time mapping 4K?
2016-12-03 02:45 Nysrogh: nop
2016-12-03 02:45 Protastic101: Cause all your maps look like 7k lol
2016-12-03 02:45 Nysrogh: LKJADSGLKGJ
2016-12-03 02:45 Nysrogh: im just oxided
2016-12-03 02:45 Nysrogh: :c
2016-12-03 02:45 Protastic101: ah, understandable
2016-12-03 02:45 Nysrogh: is my first map in two years
2016-12-03 02:45 Nysrogh: or three
2016-12-03 02:45 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 02:45 Protastic101: damn son
2016-12-03 02:45 Protastic101: Lots have changed since then, must be strange coming back to the mapping scene after so long
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: yeah bro
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: in the past
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: ALL VOCALS
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: ARE MAPPED
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: BRUHH
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: THE VOCALS ARE THE LIGHT
2016-12-03 02:46 Protastic101: 01:40:820 - btw, it'd be a good idea to start your first kiai time here instead of 01:34:052 -
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: THE VOCALS ARE LIFE
2016-12-03 02:46 Protastic101: XD
2016-12-03 02:46 Protastic101: Now vocals are shunned to hell lmao
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: 01:33:554
2016-12-03 02:46 Nysrogh: here?
2016-12-03 02:47 Protastic101: yeah, that
2016-12-03 02:47 Protastic101: The beginning kiai time is unsnapped anyways
2016-12-03 02:47 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:47 Protastic101: 01:40:820 - but I do think that this is much more fitting for the start of the kiai
2016-12-03 02:47 Protastic101: 03:10:820 - also, you need to end your kiai time as it currently has no end
2016-12-03 02:47 Protastic101: I'd consider right up there ^^
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: yeah i solved that
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 02:48 Protastic101: lol
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: then start the kia
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: in 1:40?
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: XDD
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: or 1:33
2016-12-03 02:48 Protastic101: Yes
2016-12-03 02:48 Protastic101: 01:40:820 - here
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: KK
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: BRAH
2016-12-03 02:48 Protastic101: o?
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: LKSDJGLKA TODAY i remember the maps need a kia time
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: xDDD
2016-12-03 02:48 Protastic101: lmao
2016-12-03 02:48 Nysrogh: and i forgive how to add that
2016-12-03 02:49 Nysrogh: lul
2016-12-03 02:49 Nysrogh: a friend is help me
2016-12-03 02:49 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 02:49 Protastic101: rip lol
2016-12-03 02:49 Protastic101: Still better than me, when I first started mapping, I had no idea what the offset did
2016-12-03 02:49 Nysrogh: BRO IF YOU HAVE TIME CAN YOU MAP THE 7K NM? SAGHASGL REALLY IM SO LAZY TO DO A NM DIFF
2016-12-03 02:49 Nysrogh: hahha
2016-12-03 02:49 Nysrogh: xDD
2016-12-03 02:50 Nysrogh: often happens
2016-12-03 02:50 Protastic101: I'm not really that good with mapping 7K lol
2016-12-03 02:50 Protastic101: and I also tend to take a long time to get anything done
2016-12-03 02:50 Nysrogh: t.t
2016-12-03 02:50 Nysrogh: God, that was fast, I was afraid to ask:
2016-12-03 02:51 Nysrogh: How long time? :v
2016-12-03 02:52 Protastic101: idk, I tend to procrastinate til the very end, so like a month or two
2016-12-03 02:52 Nysrogh: HOLY SHIT
2016-12-03 02:52 Nysrogh: XDDD
2016-12-03 02:52 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 02:52 Nysrogh: :c
2016-12-03 02:52 Nysrogh: then NOPE BRO
2016-12-03 02:52 Nysrogh: SO MUCH TIME
2016-12-03 02:52 Nysrogh: I GOING TO DIE
2016-12-03 02:53 Nysrogh: IN ONE MONTH
2016-12-03 02:53 Protastic101: yeah, just ask Dudehacker about how long I took to finish his GDs XD
2016-12-03 02:53 Nysrogh: XDDD
2016-12-03 02:53 Protastic101: He'll tell you how he waited 3 months lmao
2016-12-03 02:53 Nysrogh: luul
2016-12-03 02:53 Nysrogh: lets finish this mod
2016-12-03 02:53 Nysrogh: brah
2016-12-03 02:54 Protastic101: 01:42:109 - 01:43:046 - 01:45:859 - 01:46:796 - 01:47:734 - and etc
2016-12-03 02:54 Protastic101: places like those have 1/4 hihats, so I think it'd be a good idea to map them, kind of like what you did with 01:43:866 (103866|2,103984|3,104101|1,104101|2) -
2016-12-03 02:55 Nysrogh: not understand
2016-12-03 02:55 Nysrogh: :v
2016-12-03 02:55 Nysrogh: XDDD
2016-12-03 02:55 Protastic101: ok uhh
2016-12-03 02:56 Nysrogh: what do you want to do??????????????????????
2016-12-03 02:56 Nysrogh: the english is so hard
2016-12-03 02:56 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 02:56 Nysrogh: to do meee
2016-12-03 02:56 Protastic101: Hold on, I'm arranging something to send a screenshot of what I mean lol
2016-12-03 02:56 Nysrogh: QUE VIVA EL ESPAÑOL
2016-12-03 02:56 Nysrogh: KK
2016-12-03 02:57 Protastic101: AHHH, NO PUEDO HABLAR TACO BIEN
2016-12-03 02:57 Protastic101: ACTION taco intensifies
2016-12-03 02:57 Nysrogh: do you know a bit of spanish or nothing?
2016-12-03 02:57 Protastic101: *gets shot*
2016-12-03 02:57 Nysrogh: xDD
2016-12-03 02:57 Nysrogh: hahhahaha
2016-12-03 02:57 Protastic101: I can actually speak quite a bit of Spanish lol
2016-12-03 02:57 Nysrogh: ACTION when you are a taco
2016-12-03 02:57 Protastic101: I'm just scared of getting laughed at most of the time .-.
2016-12-03 02:57 Nysrogh: ah xDD no importa ehmm lo que intento decir es que no entendi que quieres que haga
2016-12-03 02:57 Nysrogh: :v if you understand that you are a gooodddddd
2016-12-03 02:58 Nysrogh: ACTION spanish senpai
2016-12-03 02:58 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6715310 is what I meant with those 1/4 hihats
2016-12-03 02:58 Protastic101: the highlighted notes that is
2016-12-03 02:58 Nysrogh: replace all and push that?
2016-12-03 02:58 Protastic101: "it doesn't matter what you intend to say because I didn't understand what you wanted?"
2016-12-03 02:58 Protastic101: rip me lol
2016-12-03 02:59 Nysrogh: uhhh
2016-12-03 02:59 Nysrogh: lol
2016-12-03 02:59 Nysrogh: is that i tell
2016-12-03 02:59 Nysrogh: :VVV
2016-12-03 02:59 Nysrogh: you are a prooo
2016-12-03 02:59 Protastic101: Well, that's generally the structure I'm trying to get at
2016-12-03 02:59 Nysrogh: GOD
2016-12-03 02:59 Nysrogh: KK
2016-12-03 02:59 Protastic101: Is like a double - single - triple note kind of thing
2016-12-03 02:59 Protastic101: so doubles for the kicks, single notes for the hihats on the 1/2, and triples for the snares
2016-12-03 03:01 Protastic101: 02:10:820 - alright, what I'd suggest here is to use a more jack oriented pattern cause of the repeating piano/synth
2016-12-03 03:02 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6715325 is what I mean
2016-12-03 03:02 Protastic101: the current pattern you have now is a bit too cramped in my opinion, since the LNs are really limiting the kinds of things you can do here
2016-12-03 03:02 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 03:02 Nysrogh: but one
2016-12-03 03:03 Nysrogh: single note
2016-12-03 03:03 Nysrogh: ?
2016-12-03 03:03 Nysrogh: xD
2016-12-03 03:03 Protastic101: That's up to you
2016-12-03 03:03 Protastic101: I just used singles for the sake of getting the screenshot lol
2016-12-03 03:03 Protastic101: I think doubles would work appropriately, but they might inflate the SR too much
2016-12-03 03:04 Nysrogh: kk
2016-12-03 03:04 Nysrogh: but what to do
2016-12-03 03:04 Nysrogh: here?
2016-12-03 03:05 Nysrogh: 02:10:820
2016-12-03 03:05 Protastic101: 02:33:320 - alright, starting here, some snares come in on 1/4, so I'd suggest mapping them and ignoring the LNs here in favor of them. Like so
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/67153342016-12-03 03:05 Protastic101: 02:10:820 - for this, you could try using the single pattern I gave you, but with doubles instead
2016-12-03 03:05 Protastic101: so maybe like so (give me a second)
2016-12-03 03:06 Protastic101:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6715339 ?
2016-12-03 03:06 Protastic101: Because the piano changes pitch every 3 notes, so if you change the type of chord on the third of every note, it'd be kind of pitch relevant
2016-12-03 03:08 Protastic101: 02:47:616 (167616|3,167616|2,167734|0,167734|1) - I don't think you need double notes for these sounds since they're pretty quiet hihats
2016-12-03 03:08 Protastic101: Singles would be fine. Maybe remove 02:47:616 (167616|3,167734|0) - ?
2016-12-03 03:09 Protastic101: That's pretty much it I guess
2016-12-03 03:09 Protastic101: To summarize:
2016-12-03 03:10 Protastic101: 1. Watch out for your chord size consistency. Snares tend to get heavier chords than kicks, and kicks tend to get heavier chords than everything else
2016-12-03 03:10 Protastic101: 2. Jacks are cool at 02:10:820 - , but other than that, try to watch out for jacks like 01:50:429 (110429|1,110663|1,110898|1,111132|1) - getting too long
2016-12-03 03:11 Protastic101: 3. There's some 1/4 hihats beginning at 01:40:820 - every 2 and 4 beat like 01:41:171 - 01:42:109 - respectively
2016-12-03 03:12 Protastic101: 4. Don't be afraid to make the difficulty a little bit easy. That's ok, especially in the beginning when the music is very calm and peaceful, so the chart shouldn't get too intense so soon
2016-12-03 03:13 Protastic101: That's really all I have to say about it
2016-12-03 03:15 Protastic101: Sorry to have kept you up so late orz
2016-12-03 03:15 Nysrogh: np bro
2016-12-03 03:15 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 03:15 Nysrogh: THANKS FOR ALL
2016-12-03 03:15 Nysrogh: i think this just got remapped
2016-12-03 03:15 Protastic101: yeah, so do you want me to post the log?
2016-12-03 03:15 Nysrogh: with your mod
2016-12-03 03:15 Nysrogh: xd
2016-12-03 03:15 Protastic101: lmao
2016-12-03 03:15 Nysrogh: yeah
2016-12-03 03:15 Nysrogh: :3
2016-12-03 03:16 Protastic101: Feel free to ask me to look at the map again if you do some big changes, I'll be more than happy to help
2016-12-03 03:16 Protastic101: Might come back in a few weeks or two and drop some more feedback anyways