PhoenixGoldGame wrote:
This map is beatiful... The problem ius that I suck at mania... I know you wont accpet guest diffs... But can I do a guest diff?
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I don't know if I will have fun farming this...
HP should be atleast 9.3 to avoid nonsense spam passes, pp farming and make it a bit more challenging to pass, HP 8 is way too low. But that is just my opinion.
Tidek is right, this is nonsense spamstream just for pp. I can't believe this actually got qualified....
It got qualified because it is blatantly charted for pp, and for some reason everyone loves pp maps.LastExceed wrote:
Tidek is right, this is nonsense spamstream just for pp. I can't believe this actually got qualified....
can we just stop with the nonsense pursuit to the highest star rating and instead make maps that are challenging not in one very particular aspect for the whole map that also weirdly enough boosts SR to infinity while still being relatively easy
type "thank mr chicken" and good pp and shitty acc will come to you.
Mania as "Bang my head in the keyboard" - Blastix my fingers into RSI
honestly at this point idk why people still complain about blatantly inflated bullshit like this
it's not changing, it will never change
you don't need to imbrace, just realize that with the current qat and how osu!mania works, you should expect maps like this to continue to infest the ranked map pool and ruin people's fun
however I will say
it's not changing, it will never change
you don't need to imbrace, just realize that with the current qat and how osu!mania works, you should expect maps like this to continue to infest the ranked map pool and ruin people's fun
however I will say
that sentiments like this are the ones that drive away playersjuankristal wrote:
I don't know if I will have fun farming this...
notes for gravity, by itself
00:06:501 (6501|0) - ghost note?
00:06:853 - note missing
00:07:615 (7615|2,7644|1,7673|0,7703|3,7732|2,7761|1,7791|0,7820|3) - this roll is only a 1/4 roll, not a 1/8
00:18:396 (18396|1,18396|3,18396|0) - i can't hear anything that justifies this as a triple
00:20:271 (20271|0,20271|3,20271|1) - literally all of these triples
00:21:736 (21736|2) - almost not even audible
00:23:962 - there's another tom here that you completely miss. revise your layering because missing this is bad given the difficulty of this chart, and don't use a triple for toms, because there's not much of an extra accent, and forcing the triple handjack into quad here is dumb
00:24:021 (24021|3,24021|1,24021|0,24021|2) - unnecessary quad
00:26:892 (26892|0,27009|3,27244|0) - part is more accurate w/o these 3 notes 00:27:361 (27361|0) - and this one as an afterthought. there's a "sound" here but it's the vocals being a tiny bit slow. adjust as you see fit
00:27:654 (27654|3) - another ghost note. sounds like you were mapping on 25% and you heard something change, so you put this note here. It's not, it's the synth's constant growing in tone which you have covered through your LN
00:28:005 (28005|3) - seems better if it's a jack with extra notes on 00:28:123 - and 00:28:123 - since that's what the vocal is doing
00:28:943 (28943|1) - LN makes no sense because the vocal starts on 00:28:826 -
00:30:701 - how did you miss this note
00:30:876 - or this note
00:31:052 - ????????????????
00:31:228 - ????????????????????????????
00:32:751 - note. change up patterning probably to reflect
00:33:337 - should be a jump here, because it's the stronger snare kick, however you're very inconsistently layering as triples like half a second earlier 00:32:693 (32693|1,32693|2,32693|0) - so what's up w/ that lol
00:34:275 (34275|1) - delete
00:34:802 (34802|2,34802|3) - pretty sure this whole jump doesn't even exist lol
00:36:033 (36033|1,36033|0) - is on 00:36:091 -
00:36:677 - note again
00:38:611 - jump? why is this so inconsistent (this whole section)
00:39:373 (39373|3,39373|0,39373|2) - like literally the same /exact/ sounds as the jumptrills, and you're layering as hands which imo is something that's objectively wrong lol especially for the hardest difficulty of a mapset. Map is 100% able to be hard, but shouldn't be forced to be hard by being wrong
for this entire section, the above comment is magnified like 20x
also if you didn't realize, split trills are pretty bad at 250
00:47:224 (47224|0) - maybe start on like 00:47:166 - (same for 00:49:099 (49099|3) - and further iterations of this LN)
01:02:576 (62576|3,62693|2,62810|1,62927|0,63044|1,63279|2,63513|3,63748|1) - http://puu.sh/osc3Z/2d5083a110.jpg for PR (second 2 notes are flipped to give the 3rd to 4th transition a better feel, since the melody has a jump)
01:05:623 (65623|0) - 3
01:05:974 (65974|2) - 1
01:06:365 (66365|3,66521|2,66677|1) - 123
01:07:029 (67029|2,67146|0) - 24
01:07:498 (67498|3,67849|1) - 31
why do i need to go through to fix PR, cmon it's not hard to do for an easy section
01:23:084 (83084|1,83084|0,83084|2) - this section more inconsistencies in layering
01:28:357 - actually there's a note here you missed.
01:28:533 - and here
01:31:638 (91638|1,91638|3,91697|0,91697|2,91755|3,91755|1) - things like this are seriously like ???? using same layering for all 3 when there's a clear emphasis on the last note ok
01:32:576 (92576|2,92634|1) - like, now take a look at this. the 2 notes highlighted are in the same type of pattern as the above comment, but are more emphasized in the song by a bass kick, and yet is layered with only single notes.
01:32:517 (92517|1) - ghost note
01:36:267 (96267|1) - again
01:41:951 - note
01:42:126 - note
01:43:767 - note
01:43:943 - note (or a hold for the synth decending)
literally not going to say anything about this because it's actually dumb lol
02:01:814 - note
00:06:853 - note missing
00:07:615 (7615|2,7644|1,7673|0,7703|3,7732|2,7761|1,7791|0,7820|3) - this roll is only a 1/4 roll, not a 1/8
00:18:396 (18396|1,18396|3,18396|0) - i can't hear anything that justifies this as a triple
00:20:271 (20271|0,20271|3,20271|1) - literally all of these triples
00:21:736 (21736|2) - almost not even audible
00:23:962 - there's another tom here that you completely miss. revise your layering because missing this is bad given the difficulty of this chart, and don't use a triple for toms, because there's not much of an extra accent, and forcing the triple handjack into quad here is dumb
00:24:021 (24021|3,24021|1,24021|0,24021|2) - unnecessary quad
00:26:892 (26892|0,27009|3,27244|0) - part is more accurate w/o these 3 notes 00:27:361 (27361|0) - and this one as an afterthought. there's a "sound" here but it's the vocals being a tiny bit slow. adjust as you see fit
00:27:654 (27654|3) - another ghost note. sounds like you were mapping on 25% and you heard something change, so you put this note here. It's not, it's the synth's constant growing in tone which you have covered through your LN
00:28:005 (28005|3) - seems better if it's a jack with extra notes on 00:28:123 - and 00:28:123 - since that's what the vocal is doing
00:28:943 (28943|1) - LN makes no sense because the vocal starts on 00:28:826 -
00:30:701 - how did you miss this note
00:30:876 - or this note
00:31:052 - ????????????????
00:31:228 - ????????????????????????????
00:32:751 - note. change up patterning probably to reflect
00:33:337 - should be a jump here, because it's the stronger snare kick, however you're very inconsistently layering as triples like half a second earlier 00:32:693 (32693|1,32693|2,32693|0) - so what's up w/ that lol
00:34:275 (34275|1) - delete
00:34:802 (34802|2,34802|3) - pretty sure this whole jump doesn't even exist lol
00:36:033 (36033|1,36033|0) - is on 00:36:091 -
00:36:677 - note again
00:38:611 - jump? why is this so inconsistent (this whole section)
00:39:373 (39373|3,39373|0,39373|2) - like literally the same /exact/ sounds as the jumptrills, and you're layering as hands which imo is something that's objectively wrong lol especially for the hardest difficulty of a mapset. Map is 100% able to be hard, but shouldn't be forced to be hard by being wrong
for this entire section, the above comment is magnified like 20x
also if you didn't realize, split trills are pretty bad at 250
00:47:224 (47224|0) - maybe start on like 00:47:166 - (same for 00:49:099 (49099|3) - and further iterations of this LN)
01:02:576 (62576|3,62693|2,62810|1,62927|0,63044|1,63279|2,63513|3,63748|1) - http://puu.sh/osc3Z/2d5083a110.jpg for PR (second 2 notes are flipped to give the 3rd to 4th transition a better feel, since the melody has a jump)
01:05:623 (65623|0) - 3
01:05:974 (65974|2) - 1
01:06:365 (66365|3,66521|2,66677|1) - 123
01:07:029 (67029|2,67146|0) - 24
01:07:498 (67498|3,67849|1) - 31
why do i need to go through to fix PR, cmon it's not hard to do for an easy section
01:23:084 (83084|1,83084|0,83084|2) - this section more inconsistencies in layering
01:28:357 - actually there's a note here you missed.
01:28:533 - and here
01:31:638 (91638|1,91638|3,91697|0,91697|2,91755|3,91755|1) - things like this are seriously like ???? using same layering for all 3 when there's a clear emphasis on the last note ok
01:32:576 (92576|2,92634|1) - like, now take a look at this. the 2 notes highlighted are in the same type of pattern as the above comment, but are more emphasized in the song by a bass kick, and yet is layered with only single notes.
01:32:517 (92517|1) - ghost note
01:36:267 (96267|1) - again
01:41:951 - note
01:42:126 - note
01:43:767 - note
01:43:943 - note (or a hold for the synth decending)
literally not going to say anything about this because it's actually dumb lol
02:01:814 - note
by the way this says absolutely nothing about the jumptrill sections of the song. This is mostly about actual technical mistakes, and horrid inconsistencies in layering lol
Yeah, I was trying to point out something as you are saying. PP maps will always be a thing and wont stop, it never stops in any mode. I am fine with having those if they are actualy fun to play. Not this case.Choofers wrote:
honestly at this point idk why people still complain about blatantly inflated bullshit like this
it's not changing, it will never change
you don't need to imbrace, just realize that with the current qat and how osu!mania works, you should expect maps like this to continue to infest the ranked map pool and ruin people's fun
however I will saythat sentiments like this are the ones that drive away playersjuankristal wrote:
I don't know if I will have fun farming this...
At the end, you play for a rank so if this map is allowed to be in the ranked pool, you have to farm it if you want rank...
juankristal wrote:
At the end, you play for a rank so if this map is allowed to be in the ranked pool, you have to farm it if you want rank...
That's the problem, people play more for pp than for rank most of the time, and both things are completely different right now.
The pp system doesnt't represent well a player's skill, not because it is bad in itself, but because star rating is completely messed up. So you end up having those maps with inflated as fuck SR, that only focuses on one skill (jacking, in this case), and whoever can't keep up with the jumptrills falls behind a lot because of one song. These people also try to improve this singular skill just to get pp rain, but the thing is, this map shouldn't be giving this ammount of pp to begin with. Fixing star rating somehow would be a really big step towards fixing the pp issue. I actually wouldn't mind having this ranked, but give it a proper rating, that's it.
GRAVITY diff is fun on DT ayy lmao
OwO)7
chicken, why you not decide to marry me ?
;w;
OwO)7
chicken, why you not decide to marry me ?
;w;
chorus:
shanghai moon rnk next???? xddddddddddd
yay
we have reached the pinnacle of who the fuck cares about the other maps anyways since there is pp maps like this everywhere
yay pp rain
everyone is now going to map jumptrills
yay jumptrills :ddddd
no is going to care about making things that are not jumptrills because haha no pp
yay pp
shanghai moon rnk next???? xddddddddddd
yay
we have reached the pinnacle of who the fuck cares about the other maps anyways since there is pp maps like this everywhere
yay pp rain
everyone is now going to map jumptrills
yay jumptrills :ddddd
no is going to care about making things that are not jumptrills because haha no pp
yay pp
Evening wrote:
chorus:
shanghai moon rnk next???? xddddddddddd
yay
we have reached the pinnacle of who the fuck cares about the other maps anyways since there is pp maps like this everywhere
yay pp rain
everyone is now going to map jumptrills
yay jumptrills :ddddd
no is going to care about making things that are not jumptrills because haha no pp
yay pp
Evening wrote:
chorus:
shanghai moon rnk next???? xddddddddddd
yay
we have reached the pinnacle of who the fuck cares about the other maps anyways since there is pp maps like this everywhere
yay pp rain
everyone is now going to map jumptrills
yay jumptrills :ddddd
no is going to care about making things that are not jumptrills because haha no pp
yay pp
Evening wrote:
chorus:
shanghai moon rnk next???? xddddddddddd
yay
we have reached the pinnacle of who the fuck cares about the other maps anyways since there is pp maps like this everywhere
yay pp rain
everyone is now going to map jumptrills
yay jumptrills :ddddd
no is going to care about making things that are not jumptrills because haha no pp
yay pp
nothing wrong with jumptrills unless you use them like a bitch
BoW or go beyond lolDE-CADE wrote:
it reminds me something lol
Chorus:
O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U-
JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A-
E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-
JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA
O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U-
JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A-
E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-
JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA
O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U-
JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A-
E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-
JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA-
O--------------------
O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U-
JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A-
E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-
JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA
O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U-
JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A-
E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-
JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA
O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U-
JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A-
E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-
JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA-
O--------------------
I've seen enough korean drama to know where this is going... °∆ °
can't understand pp rain.it's so bad.
I don't think 4k 7 stars map is playable,because of the stars program,much notes in a short time will make the map abnormal stars.like M.A.M.A,Only need to beat your keyboard without brain,you can get lots of pp.Isn't it true?
In other words,We need difficult maps like The Empress,It's fit 5.8 stars.
This is the reason I quit mania.
Only my opinion,GOOD JOB Fresh chicken to beat AIAE,creating the highest 4k rank map.gl.
I don't think 4k 7 stars map is playable,because of the stars program,much notes in a short time will make the map abnormal stars.like M.A.M.A,Only need to beat your keyboard without brain,you can get lots of pp.Isn't it true?
In other words,We need difficult maps like The Empress,It's fit 5.8 stars.
This is the reason I quit mania.
Only my opinion,GOOD JOB Fresh chicken to beat AIAE,creating the highest 4k rank map.gl.
guys stop with the nonsense ,if you have to post do something helpfull
[GRAVITY]
some suggestion
00:08:084 - instead of those consecutive [12] [34] chords why not alterning with pattern like those
01:33:103 (93103|1,93191|1,93279|1) - i think you can avoid this spacing, it's literally a heavy jack with this bpm , maybe something like this
01:40:544 (100544|2,100544|0,100603|3,100603|1) - prefer if you make those a [34] [12]
01:42:419 - ?_? i think you can make this section a little more better
01:48:396 - from here i think making pattern like the first suggestion could be more interesting
also as tidek mentioned already, putting HP at least 8.8 would be perfect to avoid spammersz , also increasing OD too to 8.5
[GRAVITY]
some suggestion
00:08:084 - instead of those consecutive [12] [34] chords why not alterning with pattern like those
01:33:103 (93103|1,93191|1,93279|1) - i think you can avoid this spacing, it's literally a heavy jack with this bpm , maybe something like this
01:40:544 (100544|2,100544|0,100603|3,100603|1) - prefer if you make those a [34] [12]
01:42:419 - ?_? i think you can make this section a little more better
01:48:396 - from here i think making pattern like the first suggestion could be more interesting
also as tidek mentioned already, putting HP at least 8.8 would be perfect to avoid spammersz , also increasing OD too to 8.5
Topic Starter
Harbyter wrote:
guys stop with the nonsense ,if you have to post do something helpfull
[GRAVITY]
some suggestion
00:08:084 - instead of those consecutive [12] [34] chords why not alterning with pattern like those
01:33:103 (93103|1,93191|1,93279|1) - i think you can avoid this spacing, it's literally a heavy jack with this bpm , maybe something like this
01:40:544 (100544|2,100544|0,100603|3,100603|1) - prefer if you make those a [34] [12] - Nice
01:42:419 - ?_? i think you can make this section a little more better - Is there any good suggestion for it?
01:48:396 - from here i think making pattern like the first suggestion could be more interesting - Sorry but I'd like to keep this pattern, it is really nice to fit with this part I tihnk
also as tidek mentioned already, putting HP at least 8.8 would be perfect to avoid spammersz , also increasing OD too to 8.5 - 8.8 is too hard but It can be increase, yeah I think so
Thanks for checking this Habi! I'll fix it when I have a chance to fix this!
This is the real, point out the map with steady and warrantable reason.
01:42:419 - the problem is that here you put double chords at the start of those 1/8 burst (not considering the ending, this is the only section where there are doubles ) and this make the consistency unbalanced imo ,
something like this?_?
this is the first thing that comes in mind, maybe there are other solution
something like this?_?
this is the first thing that comes in mind, maybe there are other solution
cross-posted from the Disqus:
This map is a big disappointment to me now. Gravity was something that I expected to be pretty poorly structured because it's done for the sole purpose of star rating, but I'm especially upset about Shirou's INFINITE, which was a REALLY good map at the start of this map's life cycle. Now, it's also super PP inflated and legitimately feels like a giveaway. Shirou's INFINITE used to legitimately be one of my favorite unranked maps to play, because it was actually rewarding to play through it and nail it all together...
... now, it's just another map to be forgotten.
Topic Starter
I decided to DQ it first
Topic Starter
Thank you for mod, somethings are applied.Daikyi wrote:
notes for gravity, by itself00:06:501 (6501|0) - ghost note?
00:06:853 - note missing
00:07:615 (7615|2,7644|1,7673|0,7703|3,7732|2,7761|1,7791|0,7820|3) - this roll is only a 1/4 roll, not a 1/8
00:18:396 (18396|1,18396|3,18396|0) - i can't hear anything that justifies this as a triple
00:20:271 (20271|0,20271|3,20271|1) - literally all of these triples
00:21:736 (21736|2) - almost not even audible
00:23:962 - there's another tom here that you completely miss. revise your layering because missing this is bad given the difficulty of this chart, and don't use a triple for toms, because there's not much of an extra accent, and forcing the triple handjack into quad here is dumb
00:24:021 (24021|3,24021|1,24021|0,24021|2) - unnecessary quad
00:26:892 (26892|0,27009|3,27244|0) - part is more accurate w/o these 3 notes 00:27:361 (27361|0) - and this one as an afterthought. there's a "sound" here but it's the vocals being a tiny bit slow. adjust as you see fit
00:27:654 (27654|3) - another ghost note. sounds like you were mapping on 25% and you heard something change, so you put this note here. It's not, it's the synth's constant growing in tone which you have covered through your LN
00:28:005 (28005|3) - seems better if it's a jack with extra notes on 00:28:123 - and 00:28:123 - since that's what the vocal is doing
00:28:943 (28943|1) - LN makes no sense because the vocal starts on 00:28:826 -
00:30:701 - how did you miss this note
00:30:876 - or this note
00:31:052 - ????????????????
00:31:228 - ????????????????????????????
00:32:751 - note. change up patterning probably to reflect
00:33:337 - should be a jump here, because it's the stronger snare kick, however you're very inconsistently layering as triples like half a second earlier 00:32:693 (32693|1,32693|2,32693|0) - so what's up w/ that lol
00:34:275 (34275|1) - delete
00:34:802 (34802|2,34802|3) - pretty sure this whole jump doesn't even exist lol
00:36:033 (36033|1,36033|0) - is on 00:36:091 -
00:36:677 - note again
00:38:611 - jump? why is this so inconsistent (this whole section)
00:39:373 (39373|3,39373|0,39373|2) - like literally the same /exact/ sounds as the jumptrills, and you're layering as hands which imo is something that's objectively wrong lol especially for the hardest difficulty of a mapset. Map is 100% able to be hard, but shouldn't be forced to be hard by being wrong
for this entire section, the above comment is magnified like 20x
also if you didn't realize, split trills are pretty bad at 250
00:47:224 (47224|0) - maybe start on like 00:47:166 - (same for 00:49:099 (49099|3) - and further iterations of this LN)
01:02:576 (62576|3,62693|2,62810|1,62927|0,63044|1,63279|2,63513|3,63748|1) - http://puu.sh/osc3Z/2d5083a110.jpg for PR (second 2 notes are flipped to give the 3rd to 4th transition a better feel, since the melody has a jump)
01:05:623 (65623|0) - 3
01:05:974 (65974|2) - 1
01:06:365 (66365|3,66521|2,66677|1) - 123
01:07:029 (67029|2,67146|0) - 24
01:07:498 (67498|3,67849|1) - 31
why do i need to go through to fix PR, cmon it's not hard to do for an easy section
01:23:084 (83084|1,83084|0,83084|2) - this section more inconsistencies in layering
01:28:357 - actually there's a note here you missed.
01:28:533 - and here
01:31:638 (91638|1,91638|3,91697|0,91697|2,91755|3,91755|1) - things like this are seriously like ???? using same layering for all 3 when there's a clear emphasis on the last note ok
01:32:576 (92576|2,92634|1) - like, now take a look at this. the 2 notes highlighted are in the same type of pattern as the above comment, but are more emphasized in the song by a bass kick, and yet is layered with only single notes.
01:32:517 (92517|1) - ghost note
01:36:267 (96267|1) - again
01:41:951 - note
01:42:126 - note
01:43:767 - note
01:43:943 - note (or a hold for the synth decending)
literally not going to say anything about this because it's actually dumb lol
02:01:814 - note
by the way this says absolutely nothing about the jumptrill sections of the song. This is mostly about actual technical mistakes, and horrid inconsistencies in layering lol
Just spoke to Chicken for a while and we decided to disqualify this map.
Hopefully we can get some more mods and help improve the quality of this beatmap before heading to the qualified section again.
All feedback is welcome, let's work together to push this into a rankable state.
I'll try to give a few points about this map when I have time.
Hopefully we can get some more mods and help improve the quality of this beatmap before heading to the qualified section again.
All feedback is welcome, let's work together to push this into a rankable state.
I'll try to give a few points about this map when I have time.
I hope you considered to make HP 9-9,5 in all extra diffs.
Overrated map in terms of starrating should be harder to pass in my opinion.
Overrated map in terms of starrating should be harder to pass in my opinion.
DeletedUser_259972
What?ARKlQueenVegaz wrote:
on Gravity is hard for me..
so it's look good for me
i'll miss you blastix ;-;