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Various Artists - Koigonome FriendS

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cheezstik
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cheezstik
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, November 22, 2015 at 4:02:37 PM

Artist: Various Artists
Title: Koigonome FriendS
Tags: DT, Farm, pppppppppppppppp, memes, Compilation, Mix, Koigokoro, Best FriendS, Daidai Genome, Orange, Koigenome, Primastella, Tsunamaru, Fujijo Seitokai Shikkou-bu, ルーセントハート, 恋愛ラブラボ, Lucent Heart, Love Lab
BPM: 140
Filesize: 23054kb
Play Time: 10:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Marathon (5.19 stars, 2117 notes)
Download: Various Artists - Koigonome FriendS
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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PLEASE RE-DOWNLOAD 31/7/15 NEW HITSOUNDS

MAP IS COMPLETE! Remap complete: 4/8/15)
Another full remap on Koigokoro and minor remap / cleanup on Daidai and Best FriendS section in progress completed, 1/9/15! Commence modding!


osu!'s first ever PP Compilation™, compiled for your convenience! The best DT PP farm maps, complete with their respective original hitsounds, backgrounds, and even mapping styles for the full original experience, mixed into 11 minutes of fruit picking goodness, so everyone can have a taste of the 600PP score they've always dreamed of!

Mixed by me.
BG made by me.

Hitsounds, BGs, and overall influence from:
Luerxa's Primastella - Koigokoro (Delis' diff)
Lust's Tsunamaru - Daidai Genome
No Dap's Fujijo Seitokai Shikkou-bu - Best FriendS (Same hitsounds as Koigokoro)
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DT-sama
191 posts
Joined October 2013
DT-sama
The world needs this.
Josde
26 posts
Joined July 2013
Josde
Oh, boy.
short shitmod, no kd
[Tags]
Add "Fujijo Seitokai Shikkou-bu", "Tsunamaru" and "Primastella". They're the artists.
You should probably also add "love lab" since that's where best friends is from, and "ルーセントハート" since that's, as far as I know, the source for Koigokoro.

[General]
OD8 seems a bit overkill for the difficulty the map has atm, maybe lower it a bit to 7.5?

You should set a preview point. Here are my recommendations:
01:27:671 (1) - Start of the chorus of Koigokoro
03:46:127 (1) - Start of the chorus of Daidai Genome
07:21:658 - Start of the chorus of Best FriendS, or 07:20:002 - if you wanna leave a bit of the buildup.
clayton
1,923 posts
Joined November 2013
clayton
you should just name the difficulty Fycho's Insane for the full effect
[ Setsuna ]
422 posts
Joined October 2013
[ Setsuna ]
LLOLOLOL
-Makishima S-
2,434 posts
Joined August 2013
-Makishima S-
Make it ranked or Riot!

When done, mod inc, keeping track on actual progress.

Omega Good Job my dear friend!
30201102
73 posts
Joined May 2014
30201102
The first timing section is a bit early. I would increase the offset to 265.
cheezstik
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Topic Starter
cheezstik

Josde wrote:

Oh, boy.
short shitmod, no kd
[Tags]
Add "Fujijo Seitokai Shikkou-bu", "Tsunamaru" and "Primastella". They're the artists.
You should probably also add "love lab" since that's where best friends is from, and "ルーセントハート" since that's, as far as I know, the source for Koigokoro.

[General]
OD8 seems a bit overkill for the difficulty the map has atm, maybe lower it a bit to 7.5?

You should set a preview point. Here are my recommendations:
01:27:671 (1) - Start of the chorus of Koigokoro
03:46:127 (1) - Start of the chorus of Daidai Genome
07:21:658 - Start of the chorus of Best FriendS, or 07:20:002 - if you wanna leave a bit of the buildup.
Tags added and preview point set to start of Koigokoro chorus, thanks!

30201102 wrote:

The first timing section is a bit early. I would increase the offset to 265.
Done, thanks!
Nakano Itsuki
1,218 posts
Joined July 2014
Nakano Itsuki
I wonder why Koigokoro is placed first - I mean, daidai's bpm is lower and maybe it's better to organise songs in order of bpm?
cheezstik
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Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

StarrStyx wrote:

I wonder why Koigokoro is placed first - I mean, daidai's bpm is lower and maybe it's better to organise songs in order of bpm?
It's in terms of difficulty, and the name is also the order; Koigonome FriendS. The background also suits the song order from left to right.
Akiyama Mizuki
2,710 posts
Joined March 2009
Akiyama Mizuki
Extreme pp-farm confirmed
-Makishima S-
2,434 posts
Joined August 2013
-Makishima S-
Hi cheezstick,

Beatmap feels great, wish it gets ranked and i will to help with making it looks "like a bawz".
First mod (and probably not last one), after playing this nomod and hidden, here are some suggestions.

Metadata

I would add into tags: orange genome, 恋愛ラブラボ

Marathon

01:27:050 (6) - rotating slider to start closer from (5) and ends into (1) makes easier flow
04:31:571 (2) - in my opinion unnecessary circle
05:54:127 (1,2,3,4) - confusing
05:55:016 (1,2,3,4) - ^
05:55:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
05:57:238 (1,2) - imo too high spacing betwin each other
06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - making slightly bigger spacing betwin sliders makes it easier to hit, kinda unexpected pattern (explained ingame)
06:03:016 (1,2,1,2) - connecting from last slider made for me better follow up (explained ingame)
09:15:939 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - in my opinion debatable stream, as user of 100% hitsounds and 50% music volume it was catchy to find rhythm for it and it confused me a bit, on standard skin it was easier tho

That's for now, will give it way more plays when i get time.
Cheers!
cheezstik
1,005 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

[Taiga] wrote:

Hi cheezstick,

Beatmap feels great, wish it gets ranked and i will to help with making it looks "like a bawz".
First mod (and probably not last one), after playing this nomod and hidden, here are some suggestions.

Metadata

I would add into tags: orange genome, 恋愛ラブラボ Done

Marathon

01:27:050 (6) - rotating slider to start closer from (5) and ends into (1) makes easier flow Done
04:31:571 (2) - in my opinion unnecessary circle Listen to track, that circle represents the high hat and suits imo.

05:54:127 (1,2,3,4) - confusing
05:55:016 (1,2,3,4) - ^
05:55:905 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ I agree, I have trouble sightreading this, and have seen people screw up this spot in testplays. Section remapped.
05:57:238 (1,2) - imo too high spacing betwin each other Same DS multi as rest of jumps
06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - making slightly bigger spacing betwin sliders makes it easier to hit, kinda unexpected pattern (explained ingame) I think this is fine and easily readable, and have seen others hit this with ease, and it also looks fine imo. Will keep it for now.
06:03:016 (1,2,1,2) - connecting from last slider made for me better follow up (explained ingame)^
09:15:939 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - in my opinion debatable stream, as user of 100% hitsounds and 50% music volume it was catchy to find rhythm for it and it confused me a bit, on standard skin it was easier tho Stream is definitely there and follows the drum line 100% no overmapping, will keep.

That's for now, will give it way more plays when i get time.
Cheers!
Thanks for mod!
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i hate pp
77 posts
Joined March 2014
i hate pp
rofl this map

its actually mapped pretty well

niceme.me
malxsant
245 posts
Joined November 2014
malxsant
My first mod. Don't know if I'm doing this right... but this map is just so good not to mod.

Marathon
SPOILER
00:51:693 (1) - Rotate slider -50 (selection center); make slider look better
00:58:550 (1) - Make slider look better
03:13:238 (2) - ^
03:14:127 (1,1,1,2,3,4,5) - Make a continuous combo
03:19:905 (1) - Remove new combo
03:19:905 (1) - Make new combo
03:29:238 (1) - Remove new combo
04:10:794 (4) - Make new combo
05:22:127 (1) - Make slider look better
05:35:683 (4,5,1) - Make it it's own combo
05:36:127 (2,3,4) - ^
05:43:016 (1,2,1) - ^
05:43:683 (2,3,1) - ^
05:44:127 (2,3,1) - ^
07:04:527 (1) - Make slider look better
07:06:920 (3) - ^
07:34:896 (1) - ^
07:39:313 (1) - ^ (Make the red point more centered)
08:39:681 (5) - Make new combo
08:46:307 (1,2,3,4,5) - imo space the stream a bit more
09:56:245 (4) - I think it would look better as two stacked doubles
10:08:945 (1,2) - Remove this bit

Kiai Time Suggestions
SPOILER
00:44:836 (1) - 01:12:265 (1)
01:27:693 (1) - 01:55:122 (1)
02:22:550 (1) - 02:36:265 (1)
05:22:127 (1) - 05:50:794 (4)
07:23:116 (3) - 07:49:619 (1)
08:47:043 (1) - 09:13:546 (1)
10:16:859 (1) - 10:43:362 (1)


DANK MEMES CAN'T MELT PP
SPOILER
07:28:638 (2,3,1,2) - :^)
10:22:380 (3,1,2) - :^)
cheezstik
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Topic Starter
cheezstik

maxandcheese wrote:

Marathon
00:51:693 (1) - Rotate slider -50 (selection center); make slider look better Done (Well, I made it face another way, didn't rotate it, looks better anyway)

00:58:550 (1) - Make slider look better Done
03:13:238 (2) - ^ Done
03:14:127 (1,1,1,2,3,4,5) - Make a continuous combo
03:19:905 (1) - Remove new combo Didn't make any combo changes across whole map, it suits like this. Will wait for more experienced modder / mapper's opinion
03:19:905 (1) - Make new combo
03:29:238 (1) - Remove new combo
04:10:794 (4) - Make new combo
05:22:127 (1) - Make slider look better Done
05:35:683 (4,5,1) - Make it it's own combo
05:36:127 (2,3,4) - ^
05:43:016 (1,2,1) - ^
05:43:683 (2,3,1) - ^
05:44:127 (2,3,1) - ^
07:04:527 (1) - Make slider look better Done
07:06:920 (3) - ^
07:34:896 (1) - ^
07:39:313 (1) - ^ (Make the red point more centered) Just moved it to center and made it non-linear point (That's what I did with the previous sliders you mentioned as well)
08:39:681 (5) - Make new combo
08:46:307 (1,2,3,4,5) - imo space the stream a bit more It suits like this more. I might make it curve a bit more, but spacing will stay at 0.5.
09:56:245 (4) - I think it would look better as two stacked doubles As a slider it definitely plays and reads better, will keep it like this.
10:08:945 (1,2) - Remove this bit Done

maxandcheese wrote:

Kiai Time Suggestions
00:44:836 (1) - 01:12:265 (1)
01:27:693 (1) - 01:55:122 (1)
02:22:550 (1) - 02:36:265 (1)
05:22:127 (1) - 05:50:794 (4)
07:23:116 (3) - 07:49:619 (1)
08:47:043 (1) - 09:13:546 (1)
10:16:859 (1) - 10:43:362 (1)
All done (well, just the koigokoro ones for now, will add the others when I get around to hitsounding them.)

maxandcheese wrote:

My first mod. Don't know if I'm doing this right... but this map is just so good not to mod.
Cheers :D! Glad to have the honor of your first mod. Some tips I can give you are (Ayy lmao I have like 5 days of mapping and modding experience, I'm totally qualified to give you some tips right?) add some more reasoning, or reasoning at all to your modding. Even an opinionated reason (Followed by imo would be best) is better than no reason at all, or just "change this combo colour" etc., it will help the mapper make the decision. Also use [ Title of diff / General ], [ list ] and [ * ] (No spaces) to make it look better.
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ZenithPhantasm
ZenithPhantasm
PP
ZenithPhantasm
ZenithPhantasm
Here's a bunch of improvements you could make to your map to make it more farmable.
[Marathon]
  1. 03:26:349 (3,1) - Jump angle too small to suit flow?
  2. 03:31:016 (3) - ^
  3. 03:35:460 (1,2,3,4) - Too much spacing on this stream?
  4. 03:53:016 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Maybe it would look better overall if second triple was facing the opposite of the first and third.
  5. 04:31:460 (1,2,3) - Stack this triple for easier reading imo.
  6. 04:55:016 (2,3,4,5,1) - Too much stream spacing again?
  7. 04:56:794 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^
  8. 06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - I know you said hitsound pending, but just incase, mute slider ends obviously
may the peepee be with you
cheezstik
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cheezstik

ZenithPhantasm wrote:

[Marathon]
  1. 03:26:349 (3,1) - Jump angle too small to suit flow?
  2. 03:31:016 (3) - ^
  3. 03:35:460 (1,2,3,4) - Too much spacing on this stream?
  4. 03:53:016 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Maybe it would look better overall if second triple was facing the opposite of the first and third.
  5. 04:31:460 (1,2,3) - Stack this triple for easier reading imo.
  6. 04:55:016 (2,3,4,5,1) - Too much stream spacing again?
  7. 04:56:794 (1,2,3,4,1) - ^
  8. 06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - I know you said hitsound pending, but just incase, mute slider ends obviously
Thanks for mod, I also thought about all of these, but I'm not too sure about the way to go with them, or if they even need fixing at all, so I'll wait for a more experienced modder / mapper's opinion on these cases. Also yes, I'm gonna mute those slider ends when I get to them lol.
OmegaR
82 posts
Joined May 2014
OmegaR
[Koigokoro]

  1. 00:23:193 (2,3,4,5,6) - Consider increasing the angle on these jumps, snapping in a straight line can be a nuiscance.
  2. 00:42:265 (3) - Majority of this section uses curved sliders. IMO, this slider should continue this trend to maintain consistency.
  3. 00:58:122 (2) - Move this note up to help flow better, lots of sharp-ish turns in this section and this smooth turn plays weird.
  4. 01:10:336 (6) - Move this note to the left, very close to note 4 and looks oddly spaced, merely aesthetic.
  5. 01:10:979 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Increase of spacing caught me off guard, consider lowering the jump spacing on this combo or increasing the spacing on the previous combo to flow better.
  6. 02:30:265 (4,5) - Angle of snaps is quite small on these notes, consider making these more snappy to improve gameplay.
[Daidai Genome]

  1. 03:11:460 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This back and forth pattern doesnt play very well, triangles would be a better fit for this section but I'll leave that to your disgression.
  2. 05:41:683 - ^
  3. 04:31:460 (1,2,3) - This short burst doesn't fit with the rest of the map, consider removing note 2 and moving note 1 to a space that suits.
  4. 06:06:683 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Very awkward pattern to play, the repetetive movements are hard to replicate so many times in a row.
[Best friendS]

  1. 07:43:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very big increase in difficulty, especially coming off Daidai Genome. It's fine on the later 2 Kiai
  2. sections but consider lowering the difficulty of this section and building up to the later 2 sections.
  3. 07:56:797 (2) - Change to a single note or spinner, the slider end plays no part in the song and seems weird.
  4. 09:10:601 (4,5,6,7,8) - Difficulty is fine, but these notes are slightly awkward to play, after playing about with it something along the lines of...

    4: x264 y136
    5: x344 y328
    6: x128 y280
    7: x424 y192
    8: x304 y32


    ...plays a lot better.
cheezstik
1,005 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

Wookiezi wrote:

[Koigokoro]

  1. 00:23:193 (2,3,4,5,6) - Consider increasing the angle on these jumps, snapping in a straight line can be a nuiscance. I think these are fine. Haven't had or seen anyone have trouble in testplays, and they don't look aesthetically unappealing.
  2. 00:42:265 (3) - Majority of this section uses curved sliders. IMO, this slider should continue this trend to maintain consistency. Done
  3. 00:58:122 (2) - Move this note up to help flow better, lots of sharp-ish turns in this section and this smooth turn plays weird. Done
  4. 01:10:336 (6) - Move this note to the left, very close to note 4 and looks oddly spaced, merely aesthetic. I agree looking back at this, revised whole pattern in general, horizontally lined 3 and 4 up, and made 5 and 6 more aesthetic.
  5. 01:10:979 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Increase of spacing caught me off guard, consider lowering the jump spacing on this combo or increasing the spacing on the previous combo to flow better. Reduced spacing between 2,3,4 and made into more traditional triangle. Made NC at 5 to suit triangle.
  6. 02:30:265 (4,5) - Angle of snaps is quite small on these notes, consider making these more snappy to improve gameplay. Done
[Daidai Genome]

  1. 03:11:460 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - This back and forth pattern doesnt play very well, triangles would be a better fit for this section but I'll leave that to your disgression.
  2. 05:41:683 - ^ Both play fine imo and in testplays I've seen, I think the 1,2 1,2 musically suits the notes of the piano more than triangles, will leave like this for now.
  3. 04:31:460 (1,2,3) - This short burst doesn't fit with the rest of the map, consider removing note 2 and moving note 1 to a space that suits. Done, also revised NC points to be more suitable.
  4. 06:06:683 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Very awkward pattern to play, the repetetive movements are hard to replicate so many times in a row. Section changed.
[Best friendS]

  1. 07:43:730 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Very big increase in difficulty, especially coming off Daidai Genome. It's fine on the later 2 Kiai
  2. sections but consider lowering the difficulty of this section and building up to the later 2 sections. I think it's fine, will wait for another opinion.
  3. 07:56:797 (2) - Change to a single note or spinner, the slider end plays no part in the song and seems weird. Yeah I also thought this, thought muting slider end would fix, but I guess not. Changed to a single note and made slider more aesthetic to make up for lack of other slider.
  4. 09:10:601 (4,5,6,7,8) - Difficulty is fine, but these notes are slightly awkward to play, after playing about with it something along the lines of...

    4: x264 y136
    5: x344 y328
    6: x128 y280
    7: x424 y192
    8: x304 y32


    ...plays a lot better.
Slightly improved position of 4,5,6 and 7, but didn't follow your coordinates.
Massive thanks for the mod, this was extremely helpful, and exactly the type of mod I'm looking for! I'm very grateful!
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Synpoo
616 posts
Joined August 2013
Synpoo
[Koigokoro]

00:24:693 (1) - remove nc
01:27:050 (6) - this feels better as two circles instead of a slider, similar to 00:44:193 (6,7)
01:48:265 (1) - whistle
01:57:907 (6) - NC
consider a spinner from 02:51:693 to 02:53:622

[pp Genome]
03:14:127 (1,1) - remove nc on these
04:07:460 (3,1) - slider plays nicer
04:31:460 (3,4) - start the slider on 3
05:12:571 and 05:12:794 feels empty, consider two notes here similar to the last measure
05:14:349 (2) - move left a bit so it isn't touching the slider, doesn't look too pretty
05:23:016 (3,5) - ^ but to the right

[Best FriendS]
06:50:724 (1) - lel im not fond of how this looks but w/e
07:16:491 (1) - remove clap
07:38:577 (3,5) - this was kinda hard to read but its probably just cuz i suck
07:39:865 (3,1) - consider blanketing this buuut probably not
08:11:705 (1) - perhaps something like this would look better
08:44:650 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this plays very awkwardly, consider remapping it similarly to the buildup to the previous chorus
08:50:724 (3,1) - slider should start in 3's place
08:52:012 (3,4) - a slider from red to red matches the vocals and plays nicely
09:41:521 (1) - slightly nazi but this ccould be moved upward to prevent the sliders from overlapping
10:00:294 (6,1) - a bigger jump here, feels awkward right now
10:34:343 (1) - remove nc
10:36:368 (7,1) - a jump seems necessary here

thanks for future pp
cheezstik
1,005 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

Synpoo wrote:

[Koigokoro]

00:24:693 (1) - remove nc
01:27:050 (6) - this feels better as two circles instead of a slider, similar to 00:44:193 (6,7)
01:48:265 (1) - whistle
01:57:907 (6) - NC
consider a spinner from 02:51:693 to 02:53:622
All applied^

[pp Genome]
03:14:127 (1,1) - remove nc on these Done
04:07:460 (3,1) - slider plays nicer It's fine how it is, would ruin all the patterns setting each other up in that section and Lust's map has circles in this section as well so it's probably better like this
04:31:460 (3,4) - start the slider on 3 Done
05:12:571 and 05:12:794 feels empty, consider two notes here similar to the last measure This section of the map emphasizes the piano, not the drums (Hence the hitsounds), I think it's better like this. However, I changed 8 into 2 circles as opposed to a slider.
05:14:349 (2) - move left a bit so it isn't touching the slider, doesn't look too pretty
05:23:016 (3,5) - ^ but to the right Both applied.

[Best FriendS]
06:50:724 (1) - lel im not fond of how this looks but w/e Made it a more standard looking slider
07:16:491 (1) - remove clap Was about to say No Dap had the clap here, but I changed this section in hitsounding to follow the drum line more compared to his map, so I decided to apply this.
07:38:577 (3,5) - this was kinda hard to read but its probably just cuz i suck Ye u just suk xd lmao, even that noob rafis says it's easy to read: http://puu.sh/jfWfz/bf7f89c460.jpg
Nah I changed it, did look kinda odd looking back at it.
07:39:865 (3,1) - consider blanketing this buuut probably not The fuck kind of indecisive modding is this lmao. It's like half blanketed, not hard to read or aesthetically displeasing so I'll leave this as it is.
08:11:705 (1) - perhaps something like this would look better That does indeed look better, did my best to emulate it.
08:44:650 (1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this plays very awkwardly, consider remapping it similarly to the buildup to the previous chorus I don't think so, but did it anyway to improve it.
08:50:724 (3,1) - slider should start in 3's place Done, did some pretty sik blanket magic here to remap it if i say so myself
08:52:012 (3,4) - a slider from red to red matches the vocals and plays nicely Don't wanna start the 1/1 sliders til the one after this.
09:41:521 (1) - slightly nazi but this ccould be moved upward to prevent the sliders from overlapping Done
10:00:294 (6,1) - a bigger jump here, feels awkward right now Done
10:34:343 (1) - remove nc Done
10:36:368 (7,1) - a jump seems necessary here Done, remapped the weird half backwards star whatever pattern that was before it as well, Idk what I was thinking when I made that.

thanks for the future pp
Thanks heeeeeeaps for this mod, really helpful! I feel bad that my mod on your map as part of this M4M was really shit and short in comparison, so to make it up to you, I'll do the other mod you asked as an NM for in my queue first before other mods waiting in line, hope that's good enough :P
Arphimigon
1,651 posts
Joined December 2014
Arphimigon
PEEPEE!

[SLIDERS]
08:49:619 (1) - Make dis curve more curviii pls
09:16:491 (1) - Dat end is ugliii
09:22:380 (1) - ^
09:39:037 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Dis feels so overmapped ayyyy lmao keep for free PP
09:41:521 (1) - Make this curve a neat curve :3
06:01:683 (1) - Dat bulgeee
06:02:571 (1) - That starting line isnt nice imooo

this was so rushed im not even sure if i want kds for doing something so bad asdf enjoy this anyway it wasnt even helpful
cheezstik
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Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

Arphimigon wrote:

PEEPEE!

[SLIDERS]
08:49:619 (1) - Make dis curve more curviii pls Made very slightly more curvy
09:16:491 (1) - Dat end is ugliii
09:22:380 (1) - ^ No u
09:39:037 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Dis feels so overmapped ayyyy lmao keep for free PP It's the drum line
09:41:521 (1) - Make this curve a neat curve :3 Not sure what you mean, but I improved the looks of this anyway.
06:01:683 (1) - Dat bulgeee Made nicer looking.
06:02:571 (1) - That starting line isnt nice imooo ^

this was so rushed im not even sure if i want kds for doing something so bad asdf enjoy this anyway it wasnt even helpful
Cheers m8, just improved the aesthetics™ of my map heaps, means a lot!
OmegaR
82 posts
Joined May 2014
OmegaR
Can I also ask for "koigenome" to be put in tags? It's similar to Koigonome except it uses Genome from Daidai, often find myself searching for this.
cheezstik
1,005 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

Wookiezi wrote:

Can I also ask for "koigenome" to be put in tags? It's similar to Koigonome except it uses Genome from Daidai, often find myself searching for this.
That was actually an idea for one of the names, but I decided koigonome sounded and looked better. Added to tags.
Synpoo
616 posts
Joined August 2013
Synpoo

cheezstik wrote:

Thanks heeeeeeaps for this mod, really helpful! I feel bad that my mod on your map as part of this M4M was really shit and short in comparison, so to make it up to you, I'll do the other mod you asked as an NM for in my queue first before other mods waiting in line, hope that's good enough :P
Lol don't bother modding that, I'm probably gonna let it die.

Gl with this map, if you want another mod in the future just pm me or msg in game
-HM
25 posts
Joined June 2013
-HM
Can you actually rank the map with the name "Koigonome FriendS" though?
Several maps have been disqualified because of errors in the title, I mean, you kinda made up the name mixing the 3 songs.
Not that I'm against the idea, just unsure if it can actually get ranked because of the name.
cheezstik
1,005 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

Synpoo wrote:

Lol don't bother modding that, I'm probably gonna let it die.

Gl with this map, if you want another mod in the future just pm me or msg in game
Aw, sorry to hear! Thanks for the kind regards and offer, I'll probably take you up on it in future!


Doublelift wrote:

Can you actually rank the map with the name "Koigonome FriendS" though?
Several maps have been disqualified because of errors in the title, I mean, you kinda made up the name mixing the 3 songs.
Not that I'm against the idea, just unsure if it can actually get ranked because of the name.
I'd assume so, since I'm the creator of the mix / compilation I guess I get to name it? Idk, what else would it be called anyway? PP farm compilation? https://osu.ppy.sh/s/185177 Like, the creator of that mix probably decided the name of that as well, even though it's a more standard one, it's the same principle. Worst case scenario, I have to call it "Koigonome FriendS - Compilation" or something.
gregest
809 posts
Joined February 2014
gregest
1108 pp inc

[Marathon]

00:01:550 (5) - instead of making smaller spacing for this note, make it bigger because the sound

00:30:693 (4) - why is this slider finishes on a blue tick? there is no sound on it

01:13:550 (4) - ^

01:28:979 (5,6) - rotate this a bit maybe? better to play and read

01:52:336 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - the spacing is a bit here

01:54:479 (6) - I would use notes here instead of a slider because of the strong sounds

02:03:907 (2,3,4,5) - this spacing change is really random

02:49:336 (1) - notes here instead of slider here too

05:50:127 (3) - I would make the slider shorter here

05:50:571 - and note here

06:01:238 (5,1,1) - these sliders don't look really good

06:41:889 (1,1) - ^

06:45:570 (3) - ^

07:04:527 (1) - ^

07:34:896 (1) - ^

08:46:307 (1,2,3,4,5) - this stream fills stiff, I would make it a bit curvy

09:16:491 (1) - make the slider shorter

09:16:859 - and note here

09:22:380 (1) - shorter slider

09:22:748 - note here

09:28:270 (1) - shorter slider

09:28:638 - note here

09:40:049 (1,1,2,1,1,1) - ugly, ugly, ugly slideeeers

09:51:828 (1,1) - ^

10:50:908 (3) - there could be a smaller stream here and not a slider


bye
cheezstik
1,005 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

CptBlackBird wrote:

1108 pp inc

[Marathon]

00:01:550 (5) - instead of making smaller spacing for this note, make it bigger because the sound Don't think that's necessary, delis map has same spacing.

00:30:693 (4) - why is this slider finishes on a blue tick? there is no sound on it

01:13:550 (4) - ^ ^Cos I still want 00:31:122 (1) - and 01:13:979 (1) - to be notes that are circles and not just slider ends. Delis map also does this.

01:28:979 (5,6) - rotate this a bit maybe? better to play and read Revised pattern and slightly modified position of circles after it to fix spacing

01:52:336 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - the spacing is a bit here Spacing nerfed and pattern revised

01:54:479 (6) - I would use notes here instead of a slider because of the strong sounds ^

02:03:907 (2,3,4,5) - this spacing change is really random Made more consistent with rest of spacing and revised pattern

02:49:336 (1) - notes here instead of slider here too Done

05:50:127 (3) - I would make the slider shorter here Done.

05:50:571 - and note here Done.

06:01:238 (5,1,1) - these sliders don't look really good Once again improved these sliders, think they look good for real this time bois maybe hopefully

06:41:889 (1,1) - ^ Improved the first one But I think the second one looks fine.

06:45:570 (3) - ^ Didn't think this one looked too bad but w/e, made it normal looking.

07:04:527 (1) - ^ Think this one looks nice, points towards next note and makes it more of a blanket. Will wait for another opinion but idk, I think this one looks nice.

07:34:896 (1) - ^ Made more normal looking, I originally curved it like that to avoid making it go offscreen lol, but now I realize in test mode that it wouldn't have anyway.

08:46:307 (1,2,3,4,5) - this stream fills stiff, I would make it a bit curvy Ye I knew I should've curved this

09:16:491 (1) - make the slider shorter

09:16:859 - and note here

09:22:380 (1) - shorter slider

09:22:748 - note here

09:28:270 (1) - shorter slider

09:28:638 - note here ^^^^^Nah again, shorter slider into note wouldn't suit here as much imo, no dap's map agrees.

09:40:049 (1,1,2,1,1,1) - ugly, ugly, ugly slideeeers They look good w0w o m g guys stop bully muh slider!!1! Nah idk, i actually really like the look, will ask a very experienced modder / mapper's opinion, cos I wanna keep this.

09:51:828 (1,1) - ^ ^

10:50:908 (3) - there could be a smaller stream here and not a slider 1/4 stream doesn't really suit the piano slide (proper term is glissando for you piano savy people out there), and there's nothing to stream for in the drums, so I'd have to use 1/6 if anything, and I just don't feel like adding a random one time 1/6 stream at the end lol, would be confusing and annoying as fuck to play.


bye
Thanks for mod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kuki
722 posts
Joined October 2013
Kuki


[General]
You've compiled maps that are known for their AR8 difficulties, and marathons generally tone the AR down even further, but you've made it much higher, both throwing off people who know the AR8 difficulties and making the marathon harder than it should be. I highly suggest at least changing to AR8.2.

Your flow is very off in almost I would say the majority of the map. I'd suggest a remap but since the song is so long perhaps only map sections with bad flow. You can find out if it's bad flow simply by following the beatmap in edit mode with your cursor, and when something feels off, fix it.

Most of the map is very unclean, as in, overlaps and missed stacking opportunities, ontop of lack of shapes for the most part, results in having this 'unclean' feel. I suggest you go over your map and fix overlaps, and generally try to stack more, and try to make some simple shapes, e.g a square, or triangle. These are simple and easy to make with almost any combination of sliders and hitcircles, and really should be utilized you improve your map's overall quality, and overall, clean it up.

[Marathon]
00:00:265 (1,2) - Make these the same slider.
00:01:122 (3) - Avoid overlap here.
00:01:336 (4) - Stack on the sliderend of 00:01:336 (4,1).
00:02:836 (3) - Try Ctrl+G, ctrl+left arrow, then stack on the start of 00:01:979 (1). If you don't want to do this, at least fix overlap here.
Now for a pattern change. Move 00:03:479 (5) - to X=336 Y=256. Make 00:03:693 (6) - look like this. Then copy 00:03:693 (6) - in place of 00:04:122 (7), ctrl+right arrow twice, then stack on 00:03:479 (5) - then stack 00:04:550 (8) - on the sliderend of 00:03:693 (6).
00:05:407 (1,2) - Here your flow is not very good, you have the cursor moving fast from (1) to (2), as it is a 1.5x distance snap jump, larger than the usual spacing, making it so the cursor gains speed, only to stop in it's tracks upon reaching (2) and forced to move upwards in a very uncomfortable way.
00:30:693 (4) - Not a very nice looking slider shape at all. I suggest using something more like this.
00:42:907 (5,3,7) - Stack these together. It makes no sense with your previous patterns to not have these stacked.
Another flow/pattern fix.
01:06:265 (3,4) - Ctrl+G.
01:06:693 (5) - Ctrl+G.
01:07:122 (1,2) - Ctrl+G.

I just went through a portion of the Koigokoro section here, if you have any questions or need advice don't hesitate to send me a message either in-game or on the forums.

Generally I would say the map isn't bad, but not good either. You have a lot more work before this becomes ranked, but you will eventually. I'm sure of it. Good luck with the map, and have fun! 8-)
Battle
2,865 posts
Joined February 2014
Battle
M4M

[General]
TATOE HYPE
In all seriousness though, the flow is somewhat janky throughout the song
It's probably just me, but most of the slider shapes just look awkward most of the time ;-;

[Marathon]
00:00:265 (1,2) - You should probably make these sliders the same shape at the very least
00:01:122 (3,4,5) - The spacing is inconsistent, making it look awkward
00:01:979 (1,3) - If you do decide to keep 4 the way it is, you may want to consider curving 1 more so that the end is on top of 4, and 3 overlapping with 1 doesn't look very nice in my opinion. By the way, 1 curves awkwardly when moved, so you might want to remove the anchor and place it again
00:03:693 (6,7,8) - Maybe consider stacking 8 on the end of 6
00:04:550 (8) - The shape doesn't look very nice, maybe consider changing it to something smoother?
00:23:836 (5,6,1,2) - You can see these things overlapping on each other so it doesn't look very clean
00:33:693 (4,5) - Consider making these the same shape
00:34:550 (1) - This slider doesn't look very nice
00:45:693 (3,4) - The 4 leading into 00:46:550 (1) - doesn't flow well, maybe make a copy of 3 and just ctrl + j it and move it toward the end of 3
SPOILER
01:01:765 (3,1) - Overlap doesn't look very good
01:08:836 (1) - maybe make the anchor after the red one more to the right so it's curvier?
01:10:550 (1) - I prefer to have the red anchor in the middle of the white ones but it's your choice
01:20:407 (6,1) - Consider making these the same?
01:27:693 (1) - like 01:10:550 (1)
01:49:979 (1,4) - Consider making 4 a mirrored version of 1?
02:17:836 (3,1) - Overlap doesn't look very nice
02:31:122 (1) - 01:10:550 (1)
03:13:238 (2) - I don't see the point of having this as a four point slider when it looks nicer as a three point one
03:22:127 (1) - I guess I'm mostly bugged how a lot of the long sliders are only slightly curved throughout the map, and it really doesn't look very nice if it's repeated as many times as it is
03:39:460 (6,1) - I think it would be better if 1 was blanketed by 6
03:55:016 (1,2,3) - 1 into 2 really doesn't flow
04:21:238 (3,1) - I think it would be better if 3 blanketed 1
04:21:683 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you set up 2 to be somewhat of an anti-jump, you can make the star pattern afterwards less awkward and flow smoother
SPOILER
04:23:460 (1,2) - bad flow
04:26:794 (6,7,8,9) - ^
04:36:794 (1,2,3) - Inconsistent spacing for no reason
05:06:127 - I don't see a reason why this inherited point section has the same multiplier as the previous section, you may want to consider putting a lower multiplier such as .8x for this part
05:07:460 (3,1) - Overlap looks bad
05:22:127 (1,3) - Make these blanket maybe?
05:50:127 (3) - This slider doesn't look very good
05:57:238 (1) - when playing through this map, it made me combo break .3. Usually people don't have this many repeats
06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - These shapes don't look very appealing
06:41:889 (1) - ^
06:42:626 (1) - ^
06:44:282 (2,1) - Overlapping, doesn't flow well
06:51:828 (3,1) - Make these blanket
07:04:527 (1) - Not a very appealing shape
07:05:448 (1,1,1,1) - Awkward amount of NCs
07:23:116 (3,5) - Blanket these better
07:23:853 (5,1,1) - Looks real awkward
07:48:331 (1,2) - Shapes don't look very appealing
07:49:619 (1,3) - Blanket better
07:55:877 (1) - Shape doesn't look very appealing
09:38:761 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Hitsounding sounds off
09:40:049 (1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1) - If you're going to do something like this, use something like This as a reference

Overall, blanket better and make slider art better :v
cheezstik
1,005 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

Kuki wrote:



[General]
You've compiled maps that are known for their AR8 difficulties, and marathons generally tone the AR down even further, but you've made it much higher, both throwing off people who know the AR8 difficulties and making the marathon harder than it should be. I highly suggest at least changing to AR8.2. I'll turn AR down to 8.5, I don't think that will make the earlier 2 songs too hard, but I'd say around 8.5 is the bare minimum for Best FriendS at least, although 8.8 would be more comfortable for it, I guess this will balance it out for the first 2 songs. AR increased back to 8.8, at popular demand by high ranking DT players, and by my judgement. 8.5 is too slow for Best FriendS, people thrown off by the high AR can get used to it easily (Provided they can read high AR), while not everyone can just read density as well as MillhioreF. 8.8 isn't even that fast for the 2 earlier maps anyway, my map has more density than the original AR8 maps due to patterns and stacks imo.

Your flow is very off in almost I would say the majority of the map. I'd suggest a remap but since the song is so long perhaps only map sections with bad flow. You can find out if it's bad flow simply by following the beatmap in edit mode with your cursor, and when something feels off, fix it.

Most of the map is very unclean, as in, overlaps and missed stacking opportunities, ontop of lack of shapes for the most part, results in having this 'unclean' feel. I suggest you go over your map and fix overlaps, and generally try to stack more, and try to make some simple shapes, e.g a square, or triangle. These are simple and easy to make with almost any combination of sliders and hitcircles, and really should be utilized you improve your map's overall quality, and overall, clean it up.

Remapping most of song

[Marathon]
00:00:265 (1,2) - Make these the same slider.
00:01:122 (3) - Avoid overlap here.
00:01:336 (4) - Stack on the sliderend of 00:01:336 (4,1).
00:02:836 (3) - Try Ctrl+G, ctrl+left arrow, then stack on the start of 00:01:979 (1). If you don't want to do this, at least fix overlap here.
Now for a pattern change. Move 00:03:479 (5) - to X=336 Y=256. Make 00:03:693 (6) - look like this. Then copy 00:03:693 (6) - in place of 00:04:122 (7), ctrl+right arrow twice, then stack on 00:03:479 (5) - then stack 00:04:550 (8) - on the sliderend of 00:03:693 (6).
00:05:407 (1,2) - Here your flow is not very good, you have the cursor moving fast from (1) to (2), as it is a 1.5x distance snap jump, larger than the usual spacing, making it so the cursor gains speed, only to stop in it's tracks upon reaching (2) and forced to move upwards in a very uncomfortable way.
00:30:693 (4) - Not a very nice looking slider shape at all. I suggest using something more like this.
00:42:907 (5,3,7) - Stack these together. It makes no sense with your previous patterns to not have these stacked.
Another flow/pattern fix.
01:06:265 (3,4) - Ctrl+G.
01:06:693 (5) - Ctrl+G.
01:07:122 (1,2) - Ctrl+G.
^All applied!

I just went through a portion of the Koigokoro section here, if you have any questions or need advice don't hesitate to send me a message either in-game or on the forums.

Generally I would say the map isn't bad, but not good either. You have a lot more work before this becomes ranked, but you will eventually. I'm sure of it. Good luck with the map, and have fun! 8-)
Wow, thanks heaps man, not only is this a mod to my map, this is like a whole lesson on mapping. I'll be honest, I had nearly no knowledge about mapping before I started this map, I didn't know what shit like blanket meant, or kd etc. etc. I've been learning the whole way. This more than doubled my progress. Good stuff! I'm basically gonna half remap a lot of it from here I think, now that I know a lot more about mapping structure, stacks, and flow and shit, very grateful for this mod.
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cheezstik
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Topic Starter
cheezstik
quote

[-Deemo-] wrote:

M4M

[General]
TATOE HYPE
In all seriousness though, the flow is somewhat janky throughout the song
It's probably just me, but most of the slider shapes just look awkward most of the time ;-;

[Marathon]
00:00:265 (1,2) - You should probably make these sliders the same shape at the very least
00:01:122 (3,4,5) - The spacing is inconsistent, making it look awkward
00:01:979 (1,3) - If you do decide to keep 4 the way it is, you may want to consider curving 1 more so that the end is on top of 4, and 3 overlapping with 1 doesn't look very nice in my opinion. By the way, 1 curves awkwardly when moved, so you might want to remove the anchor and place it again
00:03:693 (6,7,8) - Maybe consider stacking 8 on the end of 6
00:04:550 (8) - The shape doesn't look very nice, maybe consider changing it to something smoother?
00:23:836 (5,6,1,2) - You can see these things overlapping on each other so it doesn't look very clean
00:33:693 (4,5) - Consider making these the same shape
00:34:550 (1) - This slider doesn't look very nice
00:45:693 (3,4) - The 4 leading into 00:46:550 (1) - doesn't flow well, maybe make a copy of 3 and just ctrl + j it and move it toward the end of 3
SPOILER
01:01:765 (3,1) - Overlap doesn't look very good
01:08:836 (1) - maybe make the anchor after the red one more to the right so it's curvier?
01:10:550 (1) - I prefer to have the red anchor in the middle of the white ones but it's your choice
01:20:407 (6,1) - Consider making these the same?
01:27:693 (1) - like 01:10:550 (1)
01:49:979 (1,4) - Consider making 4 a mirrored version of 1?
02:17:836 (3,1) - Overlap doesn't look very nice
02:31:122 (1) - 01:10:550 (1)
03:13:238 (2) - I don't see the point of having this as a four point slider when it looks nicer as a three point one
03:22:127 (1) - I guess I'm mostly bugged how a lot of the long sliders are only slightly curved throughout the map, and it really doesn't look very nice if it's repeated as many times as it is
03:39:460 (6,1) - I think it would be better if 1 was blanketed by 6
03:55:016 (1,2,3) - 1 into 2 really doesn't flow
04:21:238 (3,1) - I think it would be better if 3 blanketed 1
04:21:683 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you set up 2 to be somewhat of an anti-jump, you can make the star pattern afterwards less awkward and flow smoother
SPOILER
04:23:460 (1,2) - bad flow
04:26:794 (6,7,8,9) - ^
04:36:794 (1,2,3) - Inconsistent spacing for no reason
05:06:127 - I don't see a reason why this inherited point section has the same multiplier as the previous section, you may want to consider putting a lower multiplier such as .8x for this part Don't think it's necessary (Lust's map agrees)
05:07:460 (3,1) - Overlap looks bad
05:22:127 (1,3) - Make these blanket maybe?
05:50:127 (3) - This slider doesn't look very good
05:57:238 (1) - when playing through this map, it made me combo break .3. Usually people don't have this many repeats Eh, this is fine. Don't let go of repeat slider til it finishes :P
06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - These shapes don't look very appealing
06:41:889 (1) - ^
06:42:626 (1) - ^
06:44:282 (2,1) - Overlapping, doesn't flow well
06:51:828 (3,1) - Make these blanket
07:04:527 (1) - Not a very appealing shape
07:05:448 (1,1,1,1) - Awkward amount of NCs
07:23:116 (3,5) - Blanket these better
07:23:853 (5,1,1) - Looks real awkward
07:48:331 (1,2) - Shapes don't look very appealing
07:49:619 (1,3) - Blanket better
07:55:877 (1) - Shape doesn't look very appealing
09:38:761 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Hitsounding sounds off
09:40:049 (1,1,1,1,2,3,1,1,1) - If you're going to do something like this, use something like This as a reference This slider art looks fine imo, it's the best I can do, if someone wants to offer improvements for these, send a picture, cos these sliders look pretty damn cool to me.

Overall, blanket better and make slider art better :v

^All will be fixed / changed in remap.Thanks for mod!



MODDING PAUSED PLS, MINOR REMAP ETC IN PROGRESS, DONT MOD UNTIL I GIVE THE GET GO.

Edit: Everything up to 4:20 (blaze it) has been remapped, feel free to mod anything until that point, but try not to mod anything after that point as I'm doing a semi-remap. Maybe even save your mods until I'm finished remapping so you can mod the whole thing :D

Edit 2: Remap complete! Stacks, blanketing, overall appearance and structure improved (or added in some cases) and overlaps removed, map looks a whole lot cleaner now imo. Resume modding as usual. I properly replied to this mod as well, no reply = fixed or added in remap.
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Synpoo
616 posts
Joined August 2013
Synpoo

cheezstik wrote:

4:20 (blaze it)
Adol Christin
875 posts
Joined October 2012
Adol Christin
Greeting from my queue. Sorry for a very late mod since i suddenly become very busy. :/

Since you said one song would be fine, I'll mod Best FriendS for a fair drain time trading. (also because this is the only song i have played another version, xD)

Best FriendS

  1. Countdown is enabled. Suggest disable it?
  2. 06:36:920 (3,1) - 1 should be moved away from 3. if not, 06:36:368 (2,3,1) - all have similar distance, which is too flat and makes players feel boring.
  3. 06:37:104 (1,3) - lol this overlap.... i am a overlap lover but this looks not that fine...
  4. 06:44:282 (2,1) - flow is nice, but better move the head of 2 on the middle of 1, rather than half stack the 1's tail....
  5. 06:57:350 (3) - 06:58:454 (3) - choose one or both, ctrl+g. current one is a bit too.... juggling....
  6. 07:13:178 (4,5,1) - this overlap looks not nice.....
  7. 07:29:006 - lol.... a kancolle image suddenly appeared.... my heart....
  8. 07:50:724 (4,5,1) - i hate the linear flow with long distance. like this. really hard to aim and not fun at all.
  9. 08:18:699 (4,5) - this overlap...
  10. 08:19:988 (2,3,1,2,3) - linear flow with long distance...
  11. 09:34:712 (1) - i feel this nc is unnecessary
  12. 09:56:245 (4) - really, not expected 2 reverse point here. Remove one please.
  13. 10:44:466 (4,5,1) - linear flow with long distance....
  14. Flow is fun, but please, try to reposition your stuff neat and tidy. There are many overlaps that are not that beautiful.

That's all. Good luck~
Cherry Blossom
3,185 posts
Joined October 2011
Cherry Blossom
lol you, you got a great idea.
PP compilation.
cheezstik
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Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik
OLD MOD REPLY

Adol Christin wrote:

Greeting from my queue. Sorry for a very late mod since i suddenly become very busy. :/

Since you said one song would be fine, I'll mod Best FriendS for a fair drain time trading. (also because this is the only song i have played another version, xD)

Best FriendS

  1. Countdown is enabled. Suggest disable it? Oops, thought it disabled itself since I had the start of koigokoro mapped, so not enough time to count down. Disabled.
  2. 06:36:920 (3,1) - 1 should be moved away from 3. if not, 06:36:368 (2,3,1) - all have similar distance, which is too flat and makes players feel boring. Spacing between 2 and 3: 1.2, spacing between 3 and 1: 1.8. This is the standard jump spacing I've been using for the whole Best FriendS portion/
  3. 06:37:104 (1,3) - lol this overlap.... i am a overlap lover but this looks not that fine... Think it looks nice, will wait for another opinion.
  4. 06:44:282 (2,1) - flow is nice, but better move the head of 2 on the middle of 1, rather than half stack the 1's tail.... Done
  5. 06:57:350 (3) - 06:58:454 (3) - choose one or both, ctrl+g. current one is a bit too.... juggling.... Sorry, I don't understand what you mean D: what's wrong with this part?
  6. 07:13:178 (4,5,1) - this overlap looks not nice..... What overlap? D:
  7. 07:29:006 - lol.... a kancolle image suddenly appeared.... my heart.... Idk what this means, but just to anyone else, I'll probably delete SB before bubble etc.
  8. 07:50:724 (4,5,1) - i hate the linear flow with long distance. like this. really hard to aim and not fun at all. Only 1.2 DS, same as what I've been using for all other none jumps in Best FriendS
  9. 08:18:699 (4,5) - this overlap... Fixed, created a very minor, long overlap later on, but I don't think it's too bad as it's objects far away from each other.
  10. 08:19:988 (2,3,1,2,3) - linear flow with long distance... Think it plays fine.
  11. 09:34:712 (1) - i feel this nc is unnecessary Fixed.
  12. 09:56:245 (4) - really, not expected 2 reverse point here. Remove one please. Fixed, made 2 sliders instead.
  13. 10:44:466 (4,5,1) - linear flow with long distance.... 1.2 DS again.
  14. Flow is fun, but please, try to reposition your stuff neat and tidy. There are many overlaps that are not that beautiful.

That's all. Good luck~

Adol Christin wrote:

Greeting from my queue. Sorry for a very late mod since i suddenly become very busy. :/

Since you said one song would be fine, I'll mod Best FriendS for a fair drain time trading. (also because this is the only song i have played another version, xD)

Best FriendS

  1. Countdown is enabled. Suggest disable it? Oops, thought it disabled itself since I had the start of koigokoro mapped, so not enough time to count down. Disabled.
  2. 06:36:920 (3,1) - 1 should be moved away from 3. if not, 06:36:368 (2,3,1) - all have similar distance, which is too flat and makes players feel boring. Fixed / changed in remap
  3. 06:37:104 (1,3) - lol this overlap.... i am a overlap lover but this looks not that fine... Fixed / changed in remap
  4. 06:44:282 (2,1) - flow is nice, but better move the head of 2 on the middle of 1, rather than half stack the 1's tail.... Done
  5. 06:57:350 (3) - 06:58:454 (3) - choose one or both, ctrl+g. current one is a bit too.... juggling.... Fixed / changed in remap
  6. 07:13:178 (4,5,1) - this overlap looks not nice..... Fixed / changed in remap
  7. 07:29:006 - lol.... a kancolle image suddenly appeared.... my heart.... Idk what this means, but just to anyone else, I'll probably delete SB before bubble etc.
  8. 07:50:724 (4,5,1) - i hate the linear flow with long distance. like this. really hard to aim and not fun at all. Fixed / changed in remap
  9. 08:18:699 (4,5) - this overlap... Fixed, created a very minor, long overlap later on, but I don't think it's too bad as it's objects far away from each other.
  10. 08:19:988 (2,3,1,2,3) - linear flow with long distance... Fixed / changed in remap
  11. 09:34:712 (1) - i feel this nc is unnecessary Fixed.
  12. 09:56:245 (4) - really, not expected 2 reverse point here. Remove one please. Fixed, made 2 sliders instead.
  13. 10:44:466 (4,5,1) - linear flow with long distance.... Fixed / changed in remap
  14. Flow is fun, but please, try to reposition your stuff neat and tidy. There are many overlaps that are not that beautiful.
Fixed / changed in remap

That's all. Good luck~
Thanks for mod! I'm not too sure about some of the stuff you said, both in whether I should apply, or the complete meaning behind it as I am new to mapping, if it is still unacceptable then hopefully someone with more experience could cover it with a better explanation or suggestion, but I think the fixes I applied are ok.

Edit: So after finding out you did this mod on an old version, I checked the stuff that was in old version I had backed up, and surely enough, they were all there. Light green= Fixed / changed in remap.

Cherry Blossom wrote:

lol you, you got a great idea.
PP compilation.
I was actually thinking of making the diff name "PP Marathon" or "PP Compilation" haha.
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Adol Christin
875 posts
Joined October 2012
Adol Christin

cheezstik wrote:

Adol Christin wrote:

Best FriendS

  1. 07:13:178 (4,5,1) - this overlap looks not nice..... What overlap? D: :arrow: i guess it disappeared after i posted, since my post is written 2 days ago but my network suck at that time. xD
  2. 07:29:006 - lol.... a kancolle image suddenly appeared.... my heart.... Idk what this means, but just to anyone else, I'll probably delete SB before bubble etc. :arrow: nvm it's just my feeling, nothing else. you don't need to change anything here unless you hope so or BNs hope so.

That's all. Good luck~
Thanks for mod! I'm not too sure about some of the stuff you said, both in whether I should apply, or the complete meaning behind it as I am new to mapping, if it is still unacceptable then hopefully someone with more experience could cover it with a better explanation or suggestion, but I think the fixes I applied are ok.

if you get anymore question about my mod, don't hesitate to poke me or ask someone that has more experience.
cheezstik
1,005 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

Adol Christin wrote:

i guess it disappeared after i posted, since my post is written 2 days ago but my network suck at that time. xD
Ahhhhhh that makes sense, I did a pretty big remap last night, so a lot of the stuff would've been fixed, some of your stuff still applied though. I have a backup of .osu before I did remap, I'll try and check out if the links apply there and the problems exist / or are worse, but I guess that's why I didn't understand some of the mod, since it already changed >_>

Edit: Went through mod with old diff, and saw what was there and what wasn't. Edited reply to mod.
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Tachibana Rika
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Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
Okay
Decided to mod it

[Koigokoro]
  1. 00:00:265 (1,2) - What are you aiming at with these sliders? They look rather ugly, please make them regular curves (Shapes such as these only work on longer sliders)
  2. 00:03:693 (1,2) - Personally, I hate such curved sliders, they look really cluttered and kinda bad
  3. 00:03:693 (1,3) - Why not stack these?
  4. 00:12:693 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This looks pretty bad, but here are some tips to improve the looks of it. Place 2 notes, copy paste them, rotate (120 degrees for triangle, 90 for rectangle, 72 for star etc.) This way they'll get better
    You can also use the "Create Polygonal Circles"-tool (Ctrl shift D)
  5. 00:16:765 (4,1) - Bad stack
  6. 00:17:407 (1,2) - Has pretty bad flow IMO, Ctrl G 1 to fix it (will also help in improving ^^)
  7. 00:20:836 (1,2,3,4,5) - Again, use the copy + 72 degrees, or use Polygonal Circles
  8. 00:30:693 (4) - NC for an SV change
  9. 00:33:693 (4,5) - Red noded sliders don't fit here, make them grey noded
  10. 00:40:550 (1) - What's the point of this NC? Remove it, and NC 00:41:836 (2) - instead
  11. 01:08:836 (1) - This slider is very messed up, please make it look better
  12. 01:13:550 (4) - NC fo SV change
  13. 01:29:407 (1) - So curvy ;w;
  14. There are much more issues with this, but then I'll be really nitpicky and I don't really like doing it. Make sure all "wrong stars-triangles" and such are fixed, incorrect stacks are gone etc.
[Dai Dai Genome]
First of all, the NC's here seems incredibly random, please redo them. One every big white tick is best, unless you're doing it for readability
  1. 03:11:905 (1,1,1) - Remove NC
  2. 03:13:238 (2) - NC, big white tick
  3. 03:14:127 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - This part plays really bad, due to the sliders. Please, make them less curvy
  4. 03:18:571 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Again, all those NCs, are they neccessary?
  5. 03:32:349 (1,2,3,1) - Improve looking (Polygonal circles or rotate 90)
  6. 03:52:349 (1,2,3) - Low distance here feels really weird, as it's still quite powerful make them approx 1.5 ds
  7. 03:53:016 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I miss the claps here
  8. 04:38:349 (6,1) - Incorrect stack
  9. 04:58:127 (1,2,3,4,5) - Improve looking (rotate 72)
  10. 05:07:683 (4,1) - Blanket
  11. 05:13:238 (1,2) - ^^
  12. 05:20:349 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Improve looking (Rotate 60)
  13. 05:44:349 (1,5) - Stack
  14. 05:44:349 (1,3) - Blanket
  15. 05:50:571 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The NCs here are too much and make little to no sense
  16. 06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - Please snap them correctly
  17. 06:03:238 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - And more weird NC
  18. This too needs a lot of work
I don't mod the other song, as it's quite much, and the same as in the other parts applies to there as well. Please properly look Oh wow, I messed up the color O.o
As you can see, this map needs a lot of work IMO
However, it's mainly just small issues, or other things, the flow itself is quite decnet

Good luck!
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cheezstik
1,005 posts
Joined October 2013
Topic Starter
cheezstik

Baraatje123 wrote:

Okay
Decided to mod it

[Koigokoro]
  1. 00:00:265 (1,2) - What are you aiming at with these sliders? They look rather ugly, please make them regular curves (Shapes such as these only work on longer sliders) Done.
  2. 00:03:693 (1,2) - Personally, I hate such curved sliders, they look really cluttered and kinda bad Fixed
  3. 00:03:693 (1,3) - Why not stack these? Done
  4. 00:12:693 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This looks pretty bad, but here are some tips to improve the looks of it. Place 2 notes, copy paste them, rotate (120 degrees for triangle, 90 for rectangle, 72 for star etc.) This way they'll get better Done
    You can also use the "Create Polygonal Circles"-tool (Ctrl shift D)
  5. 00:16:765 (4,1) - Bad stack Changed.
  6. 00:17:407 (1,2) - Has pretty bad flow IMO, Ctrl G 1 to fix it (will also help in improving ^^) Fixed.
  7. 00:20:836 (1,2,3,4,5) - Again, use the copy + 72 degrees, or use Polygonal Circles Done.
  8. 00:30:693 (4) - NC for an SV change Done. (Also leave next note NC or remove? I've left it NC for now.)
  9. 00:33:693 (4,5) - Red noded sliders don't fit here, make them grey noded Done.
  10. 00:40:550 (1) - What's the point of this NC? Remove it, and NC 00:41:836 (2) - instead Done.
  11. 01:08:836 (1) - This slider is very messed up, please make it look better Done.
  12. 01:13:550 (4) - NC fo SV change Done. (Same as above^)
  13. 01:29:407 (1) - So curvy ;w; Made less curvy.
  14. There are much more issues with this, but then I'll be really nitpicky and I don't really like doing it. Make sure all "wrong stars-triangles" and such are fixed, incorrect stacks are gone etc. Will do my best to fix it.
[Dai Dai Genome]
First of all, the NC's here seems incredibly random, please redo them. One every big white tick is best, unless you're doing it for readability
  1. 03:11:905 (1,1,1) - Remove NC I think these are better for reading, looks really weird with followpoints there.
  2. 03:13:238 (2) - NC, big white tick Done.
  3. 03:14:127 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - This part plays really bad, due to the sliders. Please, make them less curvy Made less curvy.
  4. 03:18:571 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - Again, all those NCs, are they neccessary? The followpoints make this pattern look cluttered and hard to read imo, plays much better without them, idk though.
  5. 03:32:349 (1,2,3,1) - Improve looking (Polygonal circles or rotate 90) Rotated 90.
  6. 03:52:349 (1,2,3) - Low distance here feels really weird, as it's still quite powerful make them approx 1.5 ds Done.
  7. 03:53:016 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - I miss the claps here Added clap to third note of second triple but anymore sounds excessive imo. (Lust's map also does this)
  8. 04:38:349 (6,1) - Incorrect stack Fixed.
  9. 04:58:127 (1,2,3,4,5) - Improve looking (rotate 72) Done.
  10. 05:07:683 (4,1) - Blanket Done.
  11. 05:13:238 (1,2) - ^^ Done.
  12. 05:20:349 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Improve looking (Rotate 60) Done.
  13. 05:44:349 (1,5) - Stack Done.
  14. 05:44:349 (1,3) - Blanket Done.
  15. 05:50:571 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - The NCs here are too much and make little to no sense Followpoints, reading etc.
  16. 06:01:238 (5,1,1,1) - Please snap them correctly Done.
  17. 06:03:238 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - And more weird NC Same as above. If followpoints not looking good / making it harder to read isn't a good reason, someone tell me, and I'll just use more regular NC as instructed.
  18. This too needs a lot of work
[color=transparent]I don't mod the other song, as it's quite much, and the same as in the other parts applies to there as well. Please properly look
As you can see, this map needs a lot of work IMO
However, it's mainly just small issues, or other things, the flow itself is quite decnet

Good luck!
Thanks for the mod, really helped out! Will be working on the rest of it some other time (Haven't touched Best FriendS section yet), but I applied everything here, anyone else feel free to point out any other specific similar issues.
i hate pp
77 posts
Joined March 2014
i hate pp
may the pps be with you

Rohit6
425 posts
Joined August 2013
Rohit6
IRC Mod
20:22 Rohit6: 00:01:979 (1) - even out this curve
20:24 Rohit6: 00:01:550 (5) - try normal finish
20:24 Rohit6: 00:21:907 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - flow is kinda awkward
20:24 Rohit6: try to make an inward curve
20:27 Rohit6: yo you there or what
20:27 cheezstik: yo
20:27 cheezstik: was at the shitter soz
20:27 Rohit6: np
20:28 cheezstik: hmm
20:28 Rohit6: straight streams are boring to play
20:28 cheezstik: ye will even out slider curve
20:28 Rohit6: [http://puu.sh/jsPxZ/c033199e73.jpg try this and see if it fits for you]
20:28 cheezstik: i tihnk that hitsound is fine
20:28 Rohit6: ye im bad with hitsounds
20:28 Rohit6: 00:27:693 (5) - nc
20:29 Rohit6: you might wanna include this in the pattern because its the main beat
20:30 cheezstik: ye thats a good nc spot
20:30 cheezstik: will do
20:30 Rohit6: 00:30:265 (3) - the sounds on the white and red tick are the same
20:30 Rohit6: replace with 2 circles preferably snappy
20:31 Rohit6:  00:30:693 (1,1,2) - this is awkward fam
20:31 Rohit6: ctrl g the slider
20:31 cheezstik: fam?
20:32 Rohit6: fam means dude friend 
20:32 Rohit6: dude,friend*
20:32 Rohit6: i thought aussies used fam
20:32 cheezstik: LOL
20:32 cheezstik: nah british people maybe
20:32 Rohit6: kiwis maybe
20:32 cheezstik: ye or that
20:33 cheezstik: ye will change that slider to two notes
20:33 cheezstik: and ctrl g that slider then
20:33 Rohit6: wait
20:35 Rohit6: [ http://puu.sh/jsPUy/3a57116f10.jpg try this]
20:35 Rohit6: fug
20:35 cheezstik: lol
20:35 cheezstik: i need context for that lol
20:36 cheezstik: circle timeline would prob help
20:36 Rohit6: 00:30:693 (1,1,2,3) - 
20:36 cheezstik: wait ye that makes sense nvm
20:36 Rohit6: 00:39:693 (1,2,3) - flow is kinda eh here
20:36 cheezstik: blanket city
20:36 Rohit6: \o/
20:37 Rohit6: 00:43:979 (5,6,7) - why are the jumps smaller than 00:43:122 (1,2,3,4) - 
20:37 Rohit6: 00:44:193 (6,7) - this should be a huge snap
20:37 cheezstik: good point
20:37 cheezstik: will change
20:38 Rohit6:  preferably back and forth
20:38 Rohit6: with the last circle farther away than the first one
20:39 Rohit6: 00:45:693 (3,4) - the beats on the red tick have same pressure
20:39 Rohit6: replace with circles
20:41 cheezstik: yep
20:41 Rohit6: 00:47:407 (5,6) - dont think you need to map on the red tick here
20:42 cheezstik: its following drums not vocal
20:42 Rohit6: 00:47:407 (5,6) - 72 176
20:42 cheezstik: some of the long sliders follow vocal
20:42 cheezstik: but thats about it
20:42 Rohit6: oh alright
20:42 Rohit6: 00:45:693 (3) - ctrl j this
20:42 cheezstik: 72 176? coordinates?
20:43 Rohit6: ye
20:43 cheezstik: you sent same link for that btw
20:43 Rohit6: whoops
20:43 cheezstik: thats why it was confusing haha
20:43 Rohit6: 00:46:550 (1) - 72 176
20:43 Rohit6: 00:46:765 (2) - 216 96
20:43 Rohit6: 00:47:193 (4) - 112 80
20:44 Rohit6: 00:47:836 (6) - ctrl g dis
20:45 cheezstik: wait with 00:45:693 (3) -
20:45 cheezstik: you said to make circles instead?
20:45 Rohit6: oh yeah
20:45 Rohit6: mb
20:45 cheezstik: oh wait is that different part
20:45 Rohit6:  no make them circles
20:45 Rohit6: i accidentally closed the map and forgot
20:46 Rohit6: 00:47:836 (6) - it would feel better if you placed it below the 5th slider
20:47 cheezstik: i think i'll probably just ctrl g that slider for flow
20:50 Rohit6: 00:51:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - positioning is kinda eh because of the reverse position of the stream
20:50 cheezstik: what you mean by that?
20:50 cheezstik: i dont understand
20:51 Rohit6: i mean
20:51 Rohit6: there is a certain flow
20:51 Rohit6: and you broke it by that positioning of the stream
20:52 cheezstik: ah
20:52 cheezstik: so just flow
20:53 Rohit6:  http://puu.sh/jsQRZ/76f5cce304.jpg
20:53 Rohit6: adjust other beats after it though
20:55 cheezstik: not sure i could position it there
20:55 cheezstik: cos it would overlap with 00:49:979 (1,2,3) -
20:56 Rohit6: not overlapping
20:56 cheezstik: ill probably just start it at more of an angle top right of 5
20:56 Rohit6: you need it to be effortless 
20:56 Rohit6: like
20:56 Rohit6: no pressure for the stream
20:57 cheezstik: hmmm
20:57 Rohit6: 00:54:265 (5) - i personally dislike banana sliders 
20:57 cheezstik: well probably bottom right of 5 then
20:57 cheezstik: i dont think that would fuck up the flow
20:57 Rohit6:  yep
20:58 cheezstik: banana sliders? wat
20:58 cheezstik: its just a curved slider lol
20:58 Rohit6: long sliders with a bit of curve
20:58 Rohit6: banana
21:00 Rohit6: 00:55:765 (2) - this circle is kinda unnecessary because the jump part starts from 00:56:193 (2) -  here
21:00 Rohit6: 00:56:836 (4) - nc here
21:01 cheezstik: hmm does that need an nc?
21:01 Rohit6: oh yes
21:01 cheezstik: cant see the followpoint then D:
21:01 cheezstik: doesnt look as cool
21:01 Rohit6: who cares
21:01 Rohit6: its <140 bpm
21:02 Rohit6: 00:55:765 (2) - remove this 
21:02 Rohit6: bc it doesnt fit
21:03 cheezstik: hmm i guess it does accent the vocals more which is what i do everywhere else with the longer sliders
21:03 cheezstik: ye i guess ill remove then
21:03 Rohit6: 00:57:907 (1,2,3) -
21:03 Rohit6: should be harder back and forth
21:03 Rohit6: not in a line
21:04 cheezstik: will just remap that whole section
21:04 Rohit6: alright
21:04 Rohit6: brb dinner
21:06 Rohit6: 01:01:979 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - nice
21:07 Rohit6: 01:06:050 (2,3,4) - the sharp back and forth doesnt make much sense to me
21:07 cheezstik: nice?
21:07 Rohit6: that part is good
21:07 Rohit6: not sarcasm
21:07 cheezstik: oh lol
21:07 cheezstik: thx
21:07 cheezstik: ye will change that other part
21:07 cheezstik: i think i was trying too hard to stack
21:07 cheezstik: and maintain normal spacing
21:08 Rohit6: 01:07:122 (1,2,3) - this is bad
21:08 Rohit6: 01:13:122 (3) - replace with 2 circles 
21:08 Rohit6: same as before
21:09 cheezstik: and then ctrl g next slider i assume
21:11 Rohit6: alright actually gonna dinner
21:12 cheezstik: wait b4 you go
21:12 cheezstik: wanna savelog this and attach it
21:12 cheezstik: and then do rest in a forum mod?
21:12 cheezstik: cos im probably gonna sleep like very soon, its 1 am here
21:17 cheezstik: saved log just in case you forget to or some shit, put rest in forum mod, thanks! gn
21:30 Rohit6: alrighty

01:13:550 (1) - ctrl+g
01:22:979 (3,5) - Fix blanket
01:27:050 (6) - NC and make this 01:27:050 (6,7) a snappy jump
01:39:693 (5) - NC
01:43:765 (3,4) - bad flow
01:57:693 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - improve flow
02:01:122 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
02:02:836 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^
02:21:907 (6,7) - huge snappy jump
02:37:122 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - improve flow
02:39:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Curve this more
02:47:407 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - improve flow
02:49:336 (1,2,3) - more intense jumps needed here for emphasis
03:15:905 (3,4) - why not repeat 03:15:016 (1,2) this type of pattern
03:43:238 (6,7,1) - stack
04:04:794 (1) - plays a lot better when you ctrl+j
04:04:794 (1) - no need for nc
04:29:238 (4,5,6,7,1) - improve flow by making it vertical
04:37:238 (3,1,2,3) - this is a short stream of 5 circles
04:38:571 (7) - change the shape here since it doesnt fit well
04:41:238 (1) - x:160 y:240
04:43:460 (1) - no need for nc here
04:43:905 (3) - nc here instead and make snappy jumps
04:54:349 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - fix flow here since its kinda awkward to play and curve the streams more often
05:11:460 (6) - nc here
05:16:127 (6) - this is a 1/8 beat , use a reverse arrow slider here
05:17:683 (4) - nc
05:25:683 (1) - x:144 y :312
05:28:794 (5,6,7,1) - fix flow
05:35:683 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - hard to hit if youre sightreading,try keeping both the triples in the same direction
05:35:683 (4,5,1) - ctrl+h this
05:38:127 (1) - no need for nc
05:39:905 (1) - ^
05:40:794 (4) - nc here instead
05:43:016 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - i like the idea and how it plays but it looks god awful atm , dont make the triple straight , make it so that the middle one should be sticking out and please use the rotate shortcut
05:43:905 (1) - no need for nc here
05:44:349 (1,3) - bad blanket
05:44:794 (3) - you only need a single white point for a simple curve
05:47:683 (1) - no need for nc here
05:47:905 (2) - nc here
05:57:238 (1,2,3,4) - random spacing for no reason
06:01:683 (1) - this shape is looks bad but the rest are good
06:03:016 - ctrl+g alternate doubles because it feels awkward to play now
06:06:571 - try increasing the spacing regularly to prepare for the end
06:10:127 (1) - no need for nc here
06:10:794 (1) - ^
06:11:016 (3) - nc here instead
06:11:683 (1) - no need for nc here
06:21:584 - too long and unnecessary imo 06:21:683 - try ending near this point
06:34:343 (5,1) - bad flow
06:36:368 (2,3) - bad blanket
06:35:080 (1) - no need for nc
06:37:104 (1) - ^
06:37:472 (2) - nc here
06:41:889 (1) - fix the shape
06:44:098 (1) - no need for nc
06:44:282 (2,1) - blanket this
06:55:141 (1,2) - increase distance snap by a bit to make it more snappy
06:55:877 (1,1) - improve blanket
07:01:951 (1) - no need for nc
07:04:343 (7,1) - improve blanket
07:25:693 (1,1) - improve flow
07:28:270 (1) - no need for nc
07:28:638 (2) - nc here to emphasize the erm...vocals :^)
07:31:031 (3,4) - improve blanket
07:36:000 (3) - ctrl+g
07:37:840 (1,2,3) - improve flow
07:40:049 (1) - no need for nc
07:48:331 (1,2) - these shapes suck,replace them
07:54:773 (1) - no need for nc
07:55:877 (1) - bad shape
08:08:761 (1,2) - blanket
08:13:914 (1) - no need for nc
08:16:123 (4) - nc here
08:24:037 (2,3) - improve flow
08:25:325 (3,4) - ^
08:49:988 (1,2) - fix blanket
08:53:485 (2,3) - improve flow
08:58:454 (6) - move this farther away for emphasis
09:16:491 (1) - bad shape
09:28:270 (1) - ^
09:31:951 (4,6) - bad blanket
09:34:159 (1,2,3,4,5) - no need for random spacing
09:42:994 (1) - unpleasant shape
09:45:939 (1) - ^
09:47:411 (1) - the sliderbody is fine but the end is eh
10:19:804 (1,2,3) - you replaced individual strong beats with sliders
10:22:380 (3) - circles because the beats have individual pressure
10:50:908 (3) - increase sv by a bit for emphasis
also,when i say bad/unpleasant shape its because it doesnt fit or feels unnecessary
Shooting some sudoku stars for you
BOUYAAA
396 posts
Joined July 2010
BOUYAAA
ok i try
SM4SM pls

10min
I wont point out everything. I'll give general guidelines and it will be your job to go through the diff and figure out what you want to change or not. Keep in mind I don't want do force you into anything, these are just suggestions.

General stuff:
I'm shit at explaining things so i'll link this p/2908871 read popner's post, it WILL be helpful. There is a lot of times where aesthetics is not consistent in your diff. I'll give a few examples :
-00:09:693 (3,1) - These two sliders are both blanketing 00:10:122 (4) - yet both of them have a different angle and a different sacing with 4.
-00:24:693 (2,3) - another example where 2 and 3 don't have the same curve even though 3 suggests that it completes the shape.
-01:30:265 (4,1) - Same stuff happenning here
-03:14:572 (4,1) - 06:41:889 (1) - etc etc
also I'd avoid to curve things too much in general because unless your pattern is built around these curves the final result usually doesnt look great. A few examples would be 00:36:265 (1) - 01:10:550 (1) - . I know this is really subjective but it's worth pointing out imo.


the second thing where your map feels weird sometimes is spacing. when you make jumps it should be used to create emphasis on either strong breats or strong sounds in the song. here again I'll only give a few examples :
- 00:26:836 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - in this jump pattern for example, everything has the same spacing, which is fine, but it would make way more sense to actually emphasise the big kick sounds 00:27:693 (5,6,7,8,10,11,12) - with a larger jump than the rest dont you think?
-00:43:122 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is also a great example. here 00:43:122 (1,2,3,4) - have the exact same effect than 00:42:265 (2,3,4) - yet their sacing is probably twice as big. these two on the other hand 00:44:193 (6,7) - have a clap hitsound on them that is not emphasised at all
-01:25:979 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - a bit less obvious maybe. here you can clearly hear that the background noise getting louder yet your spacing is constant and doesn't seem to follow that. also same as before 01:27:050 (6,7) - have a clap sound that isn't emphasized
Ofc this doesn't only apply to jump patterns.


Mod stuff :
00:15:693 (1,2) - when the angle is so tiny it's probably better to make it so that the movement "completes the curve" or goes inwards of the slider(if that makes sense)
00:17:836 (2,3) - same here, flow isn't great, fixing this would also making it look better imo
00:19:979 (3,4,5,6) - your square seems off use the "insert notes in a circle" tool in the editor
00:45:479 (2,3,4,1) - I know this is supposed to be an insane but yea this is not intuitive at all. The end of the slider just points at a random direction
00:56:193 (1) - weird nc. when ncing you should do it on strong beats or downbeats.
01:07:550 (3) - weird slider. your pattern suggests a triangle shape but the slider doesn't point exactly at 01:07:336 (2) - so the shape is kinda ruined
02:18:050 (4,1) - covering up the end of a reversing slider is pretty meh
03:18:571 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - the angle isn't consistent here
03:19:905 (1) - remove the nc. also every white beat was emhasised by a jump here 03:18:571 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - so why is this so close now?
03:21:683 (3) - same here
03:21:683 (3,1) - weird flow same issue as 00:15:693 (1,2) -
03:38:127 (1,2,3) - 04:04:571 (2,1,2) - here too. this seems to happen alot so again I'll let you figure out this kind of stuff
03:46:127 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1) - I haven't really paid attention to those but wtf is happenning to the new comboooos
05:42:571 (1,2,1) - when doing tsuff like that make sure the distance between each object is consistent but better visuals. Here 05:42:571 (1,1) - these too objects are way too close to each other compared to 05:42:571 (1,2) -
05:44:794 (3) - no Bézier curves pls. One white point is enoughfor this kind of curve. (you'll have to remake the slider though else it wont fix it
06:53:669 (1) - cmon now lol. same as above
07:24:221 (1,1) - I get your idea but this might be a little bit too fast. I think this effect can be achieved withouth such high SV multiplier
07:28:454 - screamer
09:45:939 (1) - when you are doing slider art like that, it's best to use 2 white dots to make the curve better. For comparison : http://puu.sh/jsWZW/44619cafff.jpg vs http://puu.sh/jsX1U/1988884b27.jpg and of course you should adjust that to blanket 09:45:018 (3) - better :^)
10:22:104 - screamer again


minor stuff but don't ignore pls:

00:07:336 (2,5) - in game stacking makes it so these two slightly overlap but it's barely noticeable so who gives a shit
00:17:407 (1,2) - I assume you wanted to blanket here, if this is the case 1 should be less curvy
01:22:979 (3,5) - blanket ?
01:48:265 (1,2) - wah wah blanket
04:19:905 (1,3) - even though the objects are not on screen at the same time it would be more polished to blanket ! :^) them
04:30:571 (1,3) - I think you get it now try to make everything perfect
06:42:626 (1) - if you want to make S shapes make sure they are balanced

ok there is some stuff I could find. you wanted me to go ham so I went ham. catch me in game is you have any question.
GL with the map and II hope you'll improve on it.
cheezstik
1,005 posts
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Topic Starter
cheezstik
Rohit6 IRC Mod
20:22 Rohit6: 00:01:979 (1) - even out this curve
20:24 Rohit6: 00:01:550 (5) - try normal finish
20:24 Rohit6: 00:21:907 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - flow is kinda awkward
20:24 Rohit6: try to make an inward curve
20:27 Rohit6: yo you there or what
20:27 cheezstik: yo
20:27 cheezstik: was at the shitter soz
20:27 Rohit6: np
20:28 cheezstik: hmm
20:28 Rohit6: straight streams are boring to play
20:28 cheezstik: ye will even out slider curve
20:28 Rohit6: [http://puu.sh/jsPxZ/c033199e73.jpg try this and see if it fits for you]
20:28 cheezstik: i tihnk that hitsound is fine
20:28 Rohit6: ye im bad with hitsounds
20:28 Rohit6: 00:27:693 (5) - nc
20:29 Rohit6: you might wanna include this in the pattern because its the main beat
20:30 cheezstik: ye thats a good nc spot
20:30 cheezstik: will do
20:30 Rohit6: 00:30:265 (3) - the sounds on the white and red tick are the same
20:30 Rohit6: replace with 2 circles preferably snappy
20:31 Rohit6:  00:30:693 (1,1,2) - this is awkward fam
20:31 Rohit6: ctrl g the slider
20:31 cheezstik: fam?
20:32 Rohit6: fam means dude friend 
20:32 Rohit6: dude,friend*
20:32 Rohit6: i thought aussies used fam
20:32 cheezstik: LOL
20:32 cheezstik: nah british people maybe
20:32 Rohit6: kiwis maybe
20:32 cheezstik: ye or that
20:33 cheezstik: ye will change that slider to two notes
20:33 cheezstik: and ctrl g that slider then
20:33 Rohit6: wait
20:35 Rohit6: [ http://puu.sh/jsPUy/3a57116f10.jpg try this]
20:35 Rohit6: fug
20:35 cheezstik: lol
20:35 cheezstik: i need context for that lol
20:36 cheezstik: circle timeline would prob help
20:36 Rohit6: 00:30:693 (1,1,2,3) - 
20:36 cheezstik: wait ye that makes sense nvm
20:36 Rohit6: 00:39:693 (1,2,3) - flow is kinda eh here
20:36 cheezstik: blanket city
20:36 Rohit6: \o/
20:37 Rohit6: 00:43:979 (5,6,7) - why are the jumps smaller than 00:43:122 (1,2,3,4) - 
20:37 Rohit6: 00:44:193 (6,7) - this should be a huge snap
20:37 cheezstik: good point
20:37 cheezstik: will change
20:38 Rohit6:  preferably back and forth
20:38 Rohit6: with the last circle farther away than the first one
20:39 Rohit6: 00:45:693 (3,4) - the beats on the red tick have same pressure
20:39 Rohit6: replace with circles
20:41 cheezstik: yep
20:41 Rohit6: 00:47:407 (5,6) - dont think you need to map on the red tick here
20:42 cheezstik: its following drums not vocal
20:42 Rohit6: 00:47:407 (5,6) - 72 176
20:42 cheezstik: some of the long sliders follow vocal
20:42 cheezstik: but thats about it
20:42 Rohit6: oh alright
20:42 Rohit6: 00:45:693 (3) - ctrl j this
20:42 cheezstik: 72 176? coordinates?
20:43 Rohit6: ye
20:43 cheezstik: you sent same link for that btw
20:43 Rohit6: whoops
20:43 cheezstik: thats why it was confusing haha
20:43 Rohit6: 00:46:550 (1) - 72 176
20:43 Rohit6: 00:46:765 (2) - 216 96
20:43 Rohit6: 00:47:193 (4) - 112 80
20:44 Rohit6: 00:47:836 (6) - ctrl g dis
20:45 cheezstik: wait with 00:45:693 (3) -
20:45 cheezstik: you said to make circles instead?
20:45 Rohit6: oh yeah
20:45 Rohit6: mb
20:45 cheezstik: oh wait is that different part
20:45 Rohit6:  no make them circles
20:45 Rohit6: i accidentally closed the map and forgot
20:46 Rohit6: 00:47:836 (6) - it would feel better if you placed it below the 5th slider
20:47 cheezstik: i think i'll probably just ctrl g that slider for flow
20:50 Rohit6: 00:51:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - positioning is kinda eh because of the reverse position of the stream
20:50 cheezstik: what you mean by that?
20:50 cheezstik: i dont understand
20:51 Rohit6: i mean
20:51 Rohit6: there is a certain flow
20:51 Rohit6: and you broke it by that positioning of the stream
20:52 cheezstik: ah
20:52 cheezstik: so just flow
20:53 Rohit6:  http://puu.sh/jsQRZ/76f5cce304.jpg
20:53 Rohit6: adjust other beats after it though
20:55 cheezstik: not sure i could position it there
20:55 cheezstik: cos it would overlap with 00:49:979 (1,2,3) -
20:56 Rohit6: not overlapping
20:56 cheezstik: ill probably just start it at more of an angle top right of 5
20:56 Rohit6: you need it to be effortless 
20:56 Rohit6: like
20:56 Rohit6: no pressure for the stream
20:57 cheezstik: hmmm
20:57 Rohit6: 00:54:265 (5) - i personally dislike banana sliders 
20:57 cheezstik: well probably bottom right of 5 then
20:57 cheezstik: i dont think that would fuck up the flow
20:57 Rohit6:  yep
20:58 cheezstik: banana sliders? wat
20:58 cheezstik: its just a curved slider lol
20:58 Rohit6: long sliders with a bit of curve
20:58 Rohit6: banana
21:00 Rohit6: 00:55:765 (2) - this circle is kinda unnecessary because the jump part starts from 00:56:193 (2) -  here
21:00 Rohit6: 00:56:836 (4) - nc here
21:01 cheezstik: hmm does that need an nc?
21:01 Rohit6: oh yes
21:01 cheezstik: cant see the followpoint then D:
21:01 cheezstik: doesnt look as cool
21:01 Rohit6: who cares
21:01 Rohit6: its <140 bpm
21:02 Rohit6: 00:55:765 (2) - remove this 
21:02 Rohit6: bc it doesnt fit
21:03 cheezstik: hmm i guess it does accent the vocals more which is what i do everywhere else with the longer sliders
21:03 cheezstik: ye i guess ill remove then
21:03 Rohit6: 00:57:907 (1,2,3) -
21:03 Rohit6: should be harder back and forth
21:03 Rohit6: not in a line
21:04 cheezstik: will just remap that whole section
21:04 Rohit6: alright
21:04 Rohit6: brb dinner
21:06 Rohit6: 01:01:979 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - nice
21:07 Rohit6: 01:06:050 (2,3,4) - the sharp back and forth doesnt make much sense to me
21:07 cheezstik: nice?
21:07 Rohit6: that part is good
21:07 Rohit6: not sarcasm
21:07 cheezstik: oh lol
21:07 cheezstik: thx
21:07 cheezstik: ye will change that other part
21:07 cheezstik: i think i was trying too hard to stack
21:07 cheezstik: and maintain normal spacing
21:08 Rohit6: 01:07:122 (1,2,3) - this is bad
21:08 Rohit6: 01:13:122 (3) - replace with 2 circles 
21:08 Rohit6: same as before
21:09 cheezstik: and then ctrl g next slider i assume
21:11 Rohit6: alright actually gonna dinner
21:12 cheezstik: wait b4 you go
21:12 cheezstik: wanna savelog this and attach it
21:12 cheezstik: and then do rest in a forum mod?
21:12 cheezstik: cos im probably gonna sleep like very soon, its 1 am here
21:17 cheezstik: saved log just in case you forget to or some shit, put rest in forum mod, thanks! gn
21:30 Rohit6: alrighty

Rohit6 Mod+Reply:
01:13:550 (1) - ctrl+g ✔
01:22:979 (3,5) - Fix blanket ✔
01:27:050 (6) - NC and make this 01:27:050 (6,7) a snappy jump ✔
01:39:693 (5) - NC ✔
01:43:765 (3,4) - bad flow ✔
01:57:693 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - improve flow ✔
02:01:122 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ ✔
02:02:836 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ^ ✔
02:21:907 (6,7) - huge snappy jump Think the angle is enough to emphasize the noise, it's already a really big jump
02:37:122 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - improve flow ✔
02:39:050 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Curve this more It's following the curve of the slider after it, I think it's fine.
02:47:407 (4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - improve flow ✔
02:49:336 (1,2,3) - more intense jumps needed here for emphasis I changed them, but didn't increase spacing, think it's fine.
03:15:905 (3,4) - why not repeat 03:15:016 (1,2) this type of pattern Think it's better like this, I did change 4 to look better with the surrounding sliders tho.
03:43:238 (6,7,1) - stack ✔
04:04:794 (1) - plays a lot better when you ctrl+j ctrl+j'd and rotated and repositioned to look and play better.
04:04:794 (1) - no need for nc Big white tick, you sure?
04:29:238 (4,5,6,7,1) - improve flow by making it vertical Made more vertical to improve flow, but not completely.
04:37:238 (3,1,2,3) - this is a short stream of 5 circles Maybe if I was mapping more to the piano, but this part follows the drums / vocals.
04:38:571 (7) - change the shape here since it doesnt fit well ✔
04:41:238 (1) - x:160 y:240 ✔
04:43:460 (1) - no need for nc here ✔
04:43:905 (3) - nc here instead and make snappy jumps ✔
04:54:349 (3,1,2,3,4,5) - fix flow here since its kinda awkward to play and curve the streams more often Improved flow (I think?) I'd rather keep the stream straight though.
05:11:460 (6) - nc here ✔
05:16:127 (6) - this is a 1/8 beat , use a reverse arrow slider here I'd rather keep it simple
05:17:683 (4) - nc I'd rather keep that, looks nicer and even suits music I think
05:25:683 (1) - x:144 y :312 Don't think that's necessary, the note it would synergize with is veeery far back and its current position isn't that different anyway.
05:28:794 (5,6,7,1) - fix flow Slightly improved flow and aesthetics, but it wasn't that bad to start with imo
05:35:683 (4,5,1,2,3,4) - hard to hit if youre sightreading,try keeping both the triples in the same direction ✔
05:35:683 (4,5,1) - ctrl+h this ✔
05:38:127 (1) - no need for nc ✔
05:39:905 (1) - ^ ✔
05:40:794 (4) - nc here instead ✔
05:43:016 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1) - i like the idea and how it plays but it looks god awful atm , dont make the triple straight , make it so that the middle one should be sticking out and please use the rotate shortcut Made middle one stick out but not sure what you want me to use rotate shortcut for
05:43:905 (1) - no need for nc here ✔
05:44:349 (1,3) - bad blanket ✔
05:44:794 (3) - you only need a single white point for a simple curve ✔
05:47:683 (1) - no need for nc here ✔
05:47:905 (2) - nc here ✔
05:57:238 (1,2,3,4) - random spacing for no reason ✔
06:01:683 (1) - this shape is looks bad but the rest are good Changed once again, maybe it finally actually looks good for real this time :-(
06:03:016 - ctrl+g alternate doubles because it feels awkward to play now ✔
06:06:571 - try increasing the spacing regularly to prepare for the end ✔
06:10:127 (1) - no need for nc here ✔
06:10:794 (1) - ^ ✔
06:11:016 (3) - nc here instead ✔
06:11:683 (1) - no need for nc here ✔
06:21:584 - too long and unnecessary imo 06:21:683 - try ending near this point Its fine, suits music, and HP drain is pretty low at 6 anyway, even with HR this should be more than doable without getting RSI in your spinner hand.
06:34:343 (5,1) - bad flow ✔
06:36:368 (2,3) - bad blanket ✔
06:35:080 (1) - no need for nc ✔
06:37:104 (1) - ^ ✔
06:37:472 (2) - nc here ✔
06:41:889 (1) - fix the shape Made two circles instead, following your previous advice of the sounds. Reduced spacing on jump and adjusted for spacing etc etc.
06:44:098 (1) - no need for nc ✔
06:44:282 (2,1) - blanket this Looks fine imo
06:55:141 (1,2) - increase distance snap by a bit to make it more snappy ✔
06:55:877 (1,1) - improve blanket ✔
07:01:951 (1) - no need for nc ✔
07:04:343 (7,1) - improve blanket ✔
07:25:693 (1,1) - improve flow ✔
07:28:270 (1) - no need for nc ✔
07:28:638 (2) - nc here to emphasize the erm...vocals :^) ✔
07:31:031 (3,4) - improve blanket ✔ fk u have good imperfect blanket detecting eyes
07:36:000 (3) - ctrl+g Done, improved spacing on circle before it to suit as well.
07:37:840 (1,2,3) - improve flow Ctrl+g'd 3, think that fixed it
07:40:049 (1) - no need for nc ✔
07:48:331 (1,2) - these shapes suck,replace them Made them regular 3 point sliders.
07:54:773 (1) - no need for nc ✔
07:55:877 (1) - bad shape ✔
08:08:761 (1,2) - blanket ✔
08:13:914 (1) - no need for nc ✔
08:16:123 (4) - nc here ✔
08:24:037 (2,3) - improve flow ✔
08:25:325 (3,4) - ^ ✔
08:49:988 (1,2) - fix blanket ✔
08:53:485 (2,3) - improve flow ✔
08:58:454 (6) - move this farther away for emphasis Made it a pretty big jump in order to make it blanketed by following slider (which is now an anti jump sorta thing), this plays fine right?
09:16:491 (1) - bad shape ✔
09:28:270 (1) - ^ ✔
09:31:951 (4,6) - bad blanket ✔
09:34:159 (1,2,3,4,5) - no need for random spacing ✔
09:42:994 (1) - unpleasant shape Improved, also improved shape of slider before it.
09:45:939 (1) - ^ Think this one looks fine, someone link a pic of a suggestion for a better one tho and I'll be happy to use it.
09:47:411 (1) - the sliderbody is fine but the end is eh Improved slider end
10:19:804 (1,2,3) - you replaced individual strong beats with sliders Meh this is fine, just checked no daps map, he has sliders in this spot as well.
10:22:380 (3) - circles because the beats have individual pressure Emphasizing snare, suits more like this imo
10:50:908 (3) - increase sv by a bit for emphasis Increased to SV 1.3x vs the old 1.0x
also,when i say bad/unpleasant shape its because it doesnt fit or feels unnecessary
Shooting some sudoku stars for you
Thxxxxx for massive mod and star m8, extremely helpful!!!!!

BOUYAAA Mod+Reply

BOUYAAA wrote:

ok i try
SM4SM pls

I wont point out everything. I'll give general guidelines and it will be your job to go through the diff and figure out what you want to change or not. Keep in mind I don't want do force you into anything, these are just suggestions.

General stuff:
I'm shit at explaining things so i'll link this p/2908871 read popner's post, it WILL be helpful. There is a lot of times where aesthetics is not consistent in your diff. I'll give a few examples :
-00:09:693 (3,1) - These two sliders are both blanketing 00:10:122 (4) - yet both of them have a different angle and a different sacing with 4. Fixed.
-00:24:693 (2,3) - another example where 2 and 3 don't have the same curve even though 3 suggests that it completes the shape. Fixed I think, I tried ctrl+j'ing 2 and putting it in 3's place and making it longer to replace it to try and copy shape, but it might still be off, someone with better eyes might pick this up later, but I think it's probably good now.
-01:30:265 (4,1) - Same stuff happenning here Same as above
-03:14:572 (4,1) - 06:41:889 (1) - etc etc First one fixed and second one changed as part of previous mod
also I'd avoid to curve things too much in general because unless your pattern is built around these curves the final result usually doesnt look great. A few examples would be 00:36:265 (1) - 01:10:550 (1) - . I know this is really subjective but it's worth pointing out imo. Both changed as part of previous mod.


the second thing where your map feels weird sometimes is spacing. when you make jumps it should be used to create emphasis on either strong breats or strong sounds in the song. here again I'll only give a few examples :
- 00:26:836 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - in this jump pattern for example, everything has the same spacing, which is fine, but it would make way more sense to actually emphasise the big kick sounds 00:27:693 (5,6,7,8,10,11,12) - with a larger jump than the rest dont you think? Reduced spacing between 1,2,3,4
-00:43:122 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is also a great example. here 00:43:122 (1,2,3,4) - have the exact same effect than 00:42:265 (2,3,4) - yet their sacing is probably twice as big. these two on the other hand 00:44:193 (6,7) - have a clap hitsound on them that is not emphasised at all Changed as part of previous mod.
-01:25:979 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - a bit less obvious maybe. here you can clearly hear that the background noise getting louder yet your spacing is constant and doesn't seem to follow that. also same as before 01:27:050 (6,7) - have a clap sound that isn't emphasized Reduced earlier circles spacing again and 6 and 7 were changed as part of last mod.
Ofc this doesn't only apply to jump patterns.


Mod stuff :
00:15:693 (1,2) - when the angle is so tiny it's probably better to make it so that the movement "completes the curve" or goes inwards of the slider(if that makes sense) Changed this part before this.
00:17:836 (2,3) - same here, flow isn't great, fixing this would also making it look better imo Improved flow.
00:19:979 (3,4,5,6) - your square seems off use the "insert notes in a circle" tool in the editor Improved as part of last mod.
00:45:479 (2,3,4,1) - I know this is supposed to be an insane but yea this is not intuitive at all. The end of the slider just points at a random direction ^
00:56:193 (1) - weird nc. when ncing you should do it on strong beats or downbeats. ^
01:07:550 (3) - weird slider. your pattern suggests a triangle shape but the slider doesn't point exactly at 01:07:336 (2) - so the shape is kinda ruined
02:18:050 (4,1) - covering up the end of a reversing slider is pretty meh ^
03:18:571 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - the angle isn't consistent here Used some copy paste magic to fix this.
03:19:905 (1) - remove the nc. also every white beat was emhasised by a jump here 03:18:571 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - so why is this so close now? NC removed but I think it's fine for the emphasis to stay the same, the piano note goes lower and feinter for those notes while before it was to emphasize the drum crash
03:21:683 (3) - same here ^
03:21:683 (3,1) - weird flow same issue as 00:15:693 (1,2) - Fixed as part of previous mod.
03:38:127 (1,2,3) - 04:04:571 (2,1,2) - here too. this seems to happen alot so again I'll let you figure out this kind of stuff ^
03:46:127 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,1) - I haven't really paid attention to those but wtf is happenning to the new comboooos Fixed
05:42:571 (1,2,1) - when doing tsuff like that make sure the distance between each object is consistent but better visuals. Here 05:42:571 (1,1) - these too objects are way too close to each other compared to 05:42:571 (1,2) - Fixed
05:44:794 (3) - no Bézier curves pls. One white point is enoughfor this kind of curve. (you'll have to remake the slider though else it wont fix it Fixed as part of previous mod
06:53:669 (1) - cmon now lol. same as above Fixed.
07:24:221 (1,1) - I get your idea but this might be a little bit too fast. I think this effect can be achieved withouth such high SV multiplier Eh, I used the exact same SV as no dap did for these sliders, and it's perfectly playable and looks good I think.
07:28:454 - screamer
09:45:939 (1) - when you are doing slider art like that, it's best to use 2 white dots to make the curve better. For comparison : http://puu.sh/jsWZW/44619cafff.jpg vs http://puu.sh/jsX1U/1988884b27.jpg and of course you should adjust that to blanket 09:45:018 Sweet, applied, answers my question from last mod(3) - better :^)
10:22:104 - screamer again


minor stuff but don't ignore pls:

00:07:336 (2,5) - in game stacking makes it so these two slightly overlap but it's barely noticeable so who gives a shit Moved 5 a tiiiiiny bit to the right
00:17:407 (1,2) - I assume you wanted to blanket here, if this is the case 1 should be less curvy Already changed as part of last mod or maybe this mod, i dont even remember they were that long
01:22:979 (3,5) - blanket ? Last mod
01:48:265 (1,2) - wah wah blanket ^
04:19:905 (1,3) - even though the objects are not on screen at the same time it would be more polished to blanket ! :^) them Blanketed inb4 not perfectly cos i fucking suck at blanketting
04:30:571 (1,3) - I think you get it now try to make everything perfect ^ srs tho someone should totally check these, I bet I still haven't done it perfectly LOL
06:42:626 (1) - if you want to make S shapes make sure they are balanced Changed as part of last mod.

ok there is some stuff I could find. you wanted me to go ham so I went ham. catch me in game is you have any question.
GL with the map and II hope you'll improve on it.
Another mod that not only helps this map, but helps my skill and knowledge on mapping, amazing stuff guys, thanks so much!

Edit: ok just on a whim I decided to remap the edgy slider art part in daidai genome, and it now looks pretty fucking lovely (hue no pun intended) if you ask me, so ye hopefully they actually look good now.
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