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and, Here is my answer.Miryle wrote:
Calm song.~ From queue and stuff.
Enon
- 00:49:376 (5,1) – No blanket?
- 02:49:376 (4,1,2) – 4 and 1 are off definitely, but check 4 and 2.
Cellina- 01:51:876 (4,5) – oi spacing m8
- 02:02:084 (2) – You sure you want this sound on a slider end? I’d make a ½ slider then circle for the finish.
- 02:05:626 (3,1) – Blanket.
C u r i- 02:26:042 (4,4) – ;w; Can’t you move these around so it could look like so: https://puu.sh/sgQbj/29f54c6a3b.png ?
- 03:05:001 (2,5) – Eww they’re touching.
- 03:09:584 (1,2) – asdasdsd, try this instead?: https://puu.sh/sgQnc/f79008805a.png
- 03:13:751 (3,1) - ^ same
- 05:10:626 (4,1) - ^
- 05:11:876 (2,3) – Make this straight.
Leaf- 02:56:042 (4) – Just pointing out you’re skipping drums at 02:56:251 -
- 02:57:917 (4,5) – Nazi blanket.
- 02:58:334 (5,6) – Legit blanket.
- 04:55:417 (3,1) – No stack?
Reol- 03:19:376 (4,1) – aaaaaaaaaaaaa overlap ;w;
- 03:27:917 (1,2) – u wot this blanket m8
K i A i- 03:30:209 (2,3,4) – Spacing? D:
- 03:30:834 (1) – WHERE DID THE EMPHASIS GO ASDASD try: https://puu.sh/sgQrV/12e5cd3df5.png
- 03:31:876 (4,5,6,1) – holy mother of overlaps im crying internally pls
- 03:33:542 (2) – Ctrl+G cuz people won’t realize they have to move the cursor to hit 3 and bam sliderbreak.
- 03:34:167 (4) – could NC here to avoid an 11 note combo.
- 05:20:417 (2,3) – Again blanket. 05:22:084 (4) – too.
Moa- 04:02:917 (1,3) – aaaaaa overlap isn’t good ;w; Could try https://puu.sh/sgQzu/4e706aa967.png but that 04:03:542 (2) – is close as hell. Idk about this part tbh
- 04:05:417 (3,4,5,6) – um pls why circles? 04:05:417 (3,5) – sliders on these would fit waaaay better.
- 04:40:417 (2,3) – nazi blanket, head is too far ;w;
- 04:42:501 (4,5,1) – HOYL BLANKETS OMG ASDSADSd
thank you!Miryle wrote:
Enon
- 00:49:376 (5,1) – No blanket? Absolutely, I didn't aim blanket it.
- 02:49:376 (4,1,2) – 4 and 1 are off definitely, but check 4 and 2. Sorry. but, I couldn't understand what you want to say.
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UndeadCapulet wrote:
Epilogue
The spacing between the "Thank you for playing!" letters in the sb is really poorly done, I think you should remake that image. fixed
K i A i:Enon:
- 00:06:251 (1,2,3) - I think this rhythm isn't too hard for playing and fits how you map the vocals for the rest of this part better. i'm not k i a i, but current one is fine for me.
- 03:30:209 (2) - Maybe stack under the previous slidertail for a nice stop motion, I think it breaks up 03:29:584 (1,2) - and 03:30:417 (3,4,1) - better. i'm not k i a i, but current way is fits to the song more for me.
- 00:55:348 (2) - This is closer to 1/16 than 1/12, but since it's mostly just a string of grace notes you can probably just put it on the white tick for easier playing. i changed it to 1/16
- 00:55:834 (3,4) - Maybe turn these into 1/4 slider since even the stronger 00:42:501 (3) - vocals were like that. done
- 01:34:584 (1,2) - Lowering SV back to .5x here would fit really well with both the song and your sb. current way is enough fits to the song. and there is no lowering SV at all of part before every kiai
Thank you.appleeaterx wrote:
[General][Epilogue]
- Intro has some doubtful snapping at 00:03:751 (2) - . With a quick MP3 fix this could be solved, as red lines wouldn't make this part much better for playing. KuroKami suggested me moving it 00:03:803 - here would works. so, I did.
- Overall, the timing and snapping of objects sounds doubtful at times. Perhaps you could keep the current timing for simplicity as the song is pretty stable most of the times, but I strongly recommend you to look for more opinions whether this extra step is needed. // 04:44:584 (1,2) - 00:55:348 (2) - 00:03:751 (2) - 04:57:084 (3) - I have some talk with KuroKami and we decided how i will do. Of course, I will call someone for getting more opinions.
- Can see where UndeadCapulet's concern comes from. The "Thank you for playing!" message does look a little bit squished in. Bumping up the character spacing would look better imo. Done
K i A iEnon
- 00:07:084 (2) - I can't hear anything here, pretty sure this is overmapped. Just like 00:08:751 (4) - , there's only a vocal note on the 1/4 tick. there is vocal o..........."........." <- like this. it's really small though.
- 00:14:584 (1,2) - (HS) Inaudible. increase volum a bit. but, I'm not sure whether it's fine
- 03:33:542 (2,3) - It's pretty hard to read or predict whether (3) starts on (2)'s or (3)'s end. Would use some form of custom stack to make this more obvious, because this is pretty deceiving. I have asked someone to play it and they're played it very well. It's fine to me.
Reol
- 00:47:605 (2,3) - Doubt players can catch this snapping change at all... slider may seem more player-friendly. changed to slider.
- 00:55:348 (2) - Sounds pretty early still. Actually, 1/16 would fit better here, but that still doesn't sound the closest. Get someone (preferably a QAT) to consult you on whether to have strange snapping like these, or have an edited MP3 instead. As have talked with KuroKami, I chagned it 1/16. but, Will getting more opinions.
- 03:45:417 (3) - 1/8? Changed
- 03:46:251 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Seems so hard for a calm part + how the song is so strictly DS mapped orz... love what you did with the spacing decrease though later on this. I really think it's nice way to express the section. the song is lowering the tension, and still can hear strong sounds at where every 1/2. It's also fine to me.
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[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:11 PM
Nice song.
[*]Enon - Today at 12:13 PM
I agree :smiley:
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:15 PM
00:55:365 (2) - well, for this 1/16 tick works. /o/
[*]Enon - Today at 12:16 PM
that part doesnt required changing mp3?(edited)
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:16 PM
Why?
[*]Enon - Today at 12:16 PM
oh
nevermind
:smiley:
i just changed that to 1/16
how about other parts apple mentioned?
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:18 PM
i'm checking that.
04:44:584 (1,2) - what are you trying to follow here?
Because the snapping depends on that
[*]Enon - Today at 12:22 PM
we're followed vocals mainly, and mapped something strong instrument
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:22 PM
Hm
[*]Enon - Today at 12:23 PM
i guess moa thought just putting at white tick is the solution to map that part easily?
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:23 PM
Yea, I thought that too
But the violin or I dunno what is that is just right before it by 1/16 and its strong as well. :c
[*]Enon - Today at 12:24 PM
you meant 04:44:532 - here?
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:24 PM
Yap
[*]Enon - Today at 12:25 PM
then moving the head of the slider at there would make it better?
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:25 PM
Tried that and nope
[*]Enon - Today at 12:25 PM
:frowning:
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:25 PM
The drum is not covered that way and sounds bad as well. lol
[img]http://kurokami.s-ul.eu/WIkE6tdS[/img]
I made this but its optional tbh
[*]Enon - Today at 12:26 PM
that seems fine
if moa change like that
it would be fixed?(edited)
solved*
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:27 PM
Its in the kiai so it can be a little bit harder.
But it definitely sounds better that way
Anyway, lets see the next one
[*]Enon - Today at 12:28 PM
ok
adding a circle at 04:44:532 - here wouldn't make sense?
because it seems fine for me
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:29 PM
That works as well
[*]Enon - Today at 12:29 PM
ok
i will tell it and you suggested moa
just wating the next one ~_~
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:30 PM
00:03:803 (2) - move this to the next 1/16 tick
Where my timestamp is.
00:01:251 (1,2) - I would move these 1/16 later as well
I managed 1ms that way. lol
But it really hard to guess the right timing for those
[*]Enon - Today at 12:35 PM
D:
[img]https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6629937[/img]
btw is it you meant ?
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:35 PM
Yap
[*]Enon - Today at 12:36 PM
00:02:084 (3,4) - these were fine?
oh
nvm
XDXDXDDX
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:37 PM
4 could be moved but sounds much better this way
[*]Enon - Today at 12:37 PM
current one is better? or
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:37 PM
Yap
Don't move
[*]Enon - Today at 12:37 PM
LOL ok.
that's all i guess
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:39 PM
04:57:084 (3) - As for this the repeat not quite works(edited)
[*]Enon - Today at 12:39 PM
oh
yeah
that was left
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:40 PM
Yea, but ends on nothing. :c
[img]http://kurokami.s-ul.eu/XXEVBmqj[/img]
Again optional
[*]Enon - Today at 12:42 PM
1/16 streams are evil tbh
xd
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:43 PM
They are just 1/4s on ~240(edited)
And on that they are fine? :D
Ok, nvm
I can't 300 them
[*]Enon - Today at 12:45 PM
zzzzzzzzzz
[img]https://puu.sh/sqFEd/310eb01516.png[/img]
how about this
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:45 PM
Move the second slider's tail 1/16 back and that is how I did. :P
Grey tick has stronger sound(edited)
[*]Enon - Today at 12:46 PM
i see
[*]Kurokami - Today at 12:46 PM
I will kill the artist
or composer
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I don't get the bolded sentence at all. It is out of context and irrelevant. Timing matters no matter which mode you play. Just quessing which tick was intented is not a wise choice because everyone hear those sounds differently. One might go for white-red ticks while someone else might want to play them as grey. One of them will end up with some frustrating 100. Well, its up to you guys.Bonsai wrote:
There is only one diff in this set, and those notes are mapped as a circle, meaning that what the player hears depends entirely on when they click it, not what it's snapped to (we don't care about converts bc converts are ew).
Kurokami wrote:
One might go for white-red ticks while someone else might want to play them as grey.
The reason why I mentioned converts is that in Standard, as I wrote, the auditive feedback you get from a clickable note ( -> circles and sliderheads) depends entirely on the player's input, and I do not believe that any player is able to visually recognize and read that a note is snapped 1/16 later than usual in a song with constant BPM, and even after having heard the song you wouldn't notice on full speed that it's 1/16 off as long as there is no auditive feedback of how the note is snapped, which you would only get from either slidertails or CtB-converts.I wrote:
a difference of 1/16 isn't visually noticable/readable at all
BeomsanGloria Guard
04:42:917 (1) - 음... 그냥 제대로 쓰자는 말이 하고싶네요 - 블랭킷 수정했습니다Mir
04:02:709 (4) 간격 에러. - 강조를 위해 일부러 간격을 두었습니다.
04:02:917 (1,3) ? aaaaaa overlap isn’t good ;w; Could try https://puu.sh/sgQzu/4e706aa967.png but that 04:03:542 (2) ? is close as hell. Idk about this part tbh - i don't want fix it because i love overlaped like that sry
04:05:417 (3,4,5,6) ? um pls why circles? 04:05:417 (3,5) ? sliders on these would fit waaaay better. - i fixed it circles 3,4 changed slider
04:40:417 (2,3) ? nazi blanket, head is too far ;w; - in my eyes that blanket is right
04:42:501 (4,5,1) ? HOYL BLANKETS OMG ASDSADSd - fixed it thx!
thanksBonsai wrote:
I'm sure the composer of this song didn't think "ah and here the vocalist sings a 1/16-note!" ^^ LOL, it was really impressive.
- 01:05:209 (2,3) - When the map is built around following vocals so strongly all the time, leaving out strong holding vocals like the one between these two objects feels very to me. Musically, the whole previous line builds up to the note at 01:06:042 or 01:06:251 - (to me it sounds like the vocalist actually changes pitch there), but the start of the note is not emphasized at all by landing on the tail of a reverse-slider, and the holding note itself isn't mapped at all either 04:22:501 - It's also applied on my part. I fixed that is same to startrick's part.
- 01:29:167 - Why is this note skipped? It would make sense to me if it were to transition to a rhythm that focuses less on vocals and more on instrumentals, like at 01:27:501 (3,1) -, but all following objects are 100% following the vocals why leaving out instrumentals along the way, so that doesn't make much sense to me ok, i changed the first slider to 1/2 so, 01:29:167 - here isn't ignored more.
i don't think that's necessary to do.Kibbleru wrote:
i think the easier fix is just to get somebody to edit your mp3. as long as u can pinpoint the problems, it should be easy for whoever can do it (meyrink, pishifat, monstrata)
Yuii- wrote:
hold if bonsai doesn't bubble
Bonsai wrote:
I'm just listing a few examples here as I haven't looked through the entire map / don't plan on checking it
03:53:751 (3,4,5,6) - too many clickable notes when this is super calm, would consider something different, pace of the song is ruined by all these notes
- I think that pattern is have not problem cause i want emphasis vocal sound and i used many circles only in there and 03:56:251 (1,2,3) - there
if i use slider in there it become to boring rhythm
04:38:334 (2,3,4,5) - rhythm seems weird during these section. personally i wouldn't omit something so important like 04:38:751 - nor
mapping 04:38:542 (3,4) - as simiar objects (same slider shapes) when they are completely different (or should be) according to the music,
what about http://i.imgur.com/HJz1auV.jpg instead?
- i changed that rhythm thx!
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thank youYuii- wrote:
hello! i've been clearing other reqs :d sorry sorry sorry
hi enon!
K i A i
00:01:251 - 00:15:834 - hitsounds are completely inaudible here, you'll have to bump the volume a little bit to make it rankable i increased volume overall
03:33:542 (2,3) - i'm not entirely sure if it's unrankable, but it does look pretty bad if you ask me, could you ctlr+g the placement of (2)? i also not sure if it's unrankable. but i would keep it if it isn't since the flow is really nice to follow the song.
Reol
00:19:376 (3,1) - 00:22:709 (4,1) - any reason for them to be so inconsistent? they are litearlly the same that seem different thing for me though.. because 00:22:709 (4,1) - here is like starting a new part? but, 00:19:376 (3,1) - here is just like contiune the current part... i don't know how to explain this.
00:28:334 (2) - would be nice if you would move this further in order to achieve a special effect with the sliderpoints. current pattern has only 1 point from 00:27:084 (1) - to (2), so moving it to x100 y296 would be nice: http://i.imgur.com/VfXrkQr.jpg
i would also probably add hitsounds to 00:27:084 (1,2,3,4) - because the violin is p audible right there, and there's no kind of feedback right now ok i added some whistle and clap there.
03:16:251 (1) - perfect case to make a jump and you placed it on 03:16:459 (2) - that's sad well there are many way to emphasize song, not making jump there is also make sense imo.. 01:49:584 (1) - also didn't try to make jump
03:20:209 (2) - correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this the only note stacked under a slider? if yes, then consider unstack could i hear the reason? because it's absolutely fine for me.
03:22:501 (4,5,1) - vs 03:24:167 (2,3,1) - w, what are you talking about...?
03:50:417 (1,2,1,2) - there's no feedback here, unfortunately, you'll have to add some more volume as i answered at above, overall voulum was increased.
Enon
00:47:605 (2) - p sure this should be snapped to 1/6 instead of the current placement. also extending it until 00:47:917 - would make more sense because vocals are there still aaaand there is a very audible hit fixed
02:44:584 (4) - soft-whistle here too? or a hitsound, something to add there please!! added!
C u r i
02:26:251 (1) - wouldn't a soft-whistle be more appropriate for the piano hit instead of the clap? yeah, i think so.
02:34:584 (1) - how come there's no hitosund at all here? ooops
Leaf
04:57:084 (3) - sohuld be 1/6 and 04:57:501 (4) - 1/32... although 1/32 isn't a thing in the editor, so you'll probably have to finish it on the 1/6 as well for consistency with the previous slider fixed
All fixed except I replied!Monstrata wrote:
hihi~
KiAi
00:11:667 (5,6,1,2,3) - This arrangement looks a bit inconsistent with stacking enabled. Are you sure you want this spacing? I guess he wants to make there a shape.
03:34:167 (4) - NC, and NC more often, like 03:37:917 (4) - etc... Your section is the only section where you NC very infrequently and it's causing it to be inconsistent with other members of the collab.
Cellina
01:12:709 (5,1,2,3,4,1) - Blankets can be improved here.
Enon
02:39:167 (4,1) - 02:41:042 (4,1) - Having a jump or something here would be nice. Right now you don't map any emphasis at all which makes it a bit weird transitioning to Leaf's part afterwards since they map jumps and sutff.
Leaf/Curi
03:02:500 (4,1) - Beginning the kiai on a stack instead of a jump feels kinda weak. Do a jump instead for more momentum?
Reol
03:16:667 (3,4) - Clicking on 4 is really weird since it's not supported in the music. Feels like an overmap. Use a slider instead? It's really low though I can hear* something at there. I think it's fine :O
Moa
03:56:251 (1,2,3) - Sounds overmapped imo. Use sliders instead cuz imo clicking here isn't well supported by vocals unlike the previous section.
04:42:501 (4,5) - How about making a triangle here? Creates a nicer flow going into the slider
Leaf
04:57:084 (3,4) - Imo, don't use jumps here when you're also switching to 1/3 rhythm. The added slider-end makes it harder to snap to the head of slider 4 without accidentally breaking too.