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(CtB mod) Scrambled & HR v0.5

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Rilene
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Rilene
Catch the Beat only.
New mod suggestion.

The name for this mod, "Scramble" mod? (name suggested by abraker)
And summary is the mod is just an slightly veered (either moved left or right) fruits like in hard rock mod without higher difficulty settings (CS, AR, HP, OD) and with score multiplier of x1.06,

And another mod, named HR v0.5, said and suggested by baraatje123 (still need a proper name, I guess), same as hard rock but without slightly veered fruits, just higher difficulty settings, and x1.06 score multiplier as well.

Both shouldn't be stackable with hard rock or else the difficulty setting will be too high or fruits will be veered either left or right too much.
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abraker
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abraker
If you are asking for a toggle/adjuster, then t/139647
Rilene
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Rilene
Well, that isn't what I meant.
I meant is a Catch The Beat mod that acts same as Hard Rock but without higher difficulty settings, just only slighty veered fruits. `~`
Frim4503
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Frim4503
i think it's not going happen -_-
cuz many score already been made with the current mods
and i think if staf want to add new mod, they will consider to add mod that aplied to all game mode
Bara-
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Bara-
I prefer the other way
Increase stats but no location change xD
Rilene
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Rilene

Frim4503 wrote:

i think it's not going happen -_-
cuz many score already been made with the current mods
and i think if staf want to add new mod, they will consider to add mod that aplied to all game mode
Well, i think it still can, like top 50 scoreboard with HD only, can be added to AFHD (AF = Altered Fruits)

And there is also specific mods in osumania, like Fade In, maybe adding this won't be a problem with considering other modes, it only works with this mod.

baraatje123 wrote:

I prefer the other way
Increase stats but no location change xD
Or make both, but x1.06 score multiplier for both, but current HR with x1.12 score multiplier since it is the mix of our suggestions. :3
Frim4503
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Frim4503
i know about fade in
in mania but if cuz mania mod doesn't effect the score for player
so, what i mean to say is, altered fruits will change the current scoreboard or if you want to implemented this, they should change another mod like if you double click fade in if would change with HD.
if not the staf must consider to add mod that aplied to all game mode to make the score effet stable. cuz every game mode (expect mania) has already mod with same score 1.06=2 and 1.12=2. total 1.41
Rilene
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Rilene

Frim4503 wrote:

i know about fade in
in mania but if cuz mania mod doesn't effect the score for player
so, what i mean to say is, altered fruits will change the current scoreboard or if you want to implemented this, they should change another mod like if you double click fade in if would change with HD.
if not the staf must consider to add mod that aplied to all game mode to make the score effet stable. cuz every game mode (expect mania) has already mod with same score 1.06=2 and 1.12=2. total 1.41
Well, I think I understand this but not sure how this but lets leave this to the implementers. :/

Or make on another icon, with AF (Altered Fruits) and another mod which increases difficulty settings but not veering fruits like in HR (like what baraatje123 said), with x1.06 score multipliers on both, and maybe unstackable with HR?
Granger
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Granger

Frim4503 wrote:

i think it's not going happen -_-
cuz many score already been made with the current mods
and i think if staf want to add new mod, they will consider to add mod that aplied to all game mode
Thats a stupid reason to deny requests. By that logic nothing ever should be improved ever, cause thats unfair compared to what was earlier. Lets remove emails, sms and stuff, its unfair because you used to have only letters for this kind of stuff. No. Move on.

@OP: Maybe "scrambled fruits" would be a better name? "Altered Fruits" sounds so clumsy and unrefined.
Rilene
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Rilene

Granger wrote:

Maybe "scrambled fruits" would be a better name? "Altered Fruits" sounds so clumsy and unrefined.
Hm... Nice name, thanks for your idea. :D
abraker
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abraker

Sirade wrote:

Granger wrote:

Maybe "scrambled fruits" would be a better name? "Altered Fruits" sounds so clumsy and unrefined.
Hm... Nice name, thanks for your idea. :D
Suddenly the mod makes more sense.
Bara-
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Bara-
Scrambled fruit and HR v0.5 perhaps?
Rilene
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Rilene

abraker wrote:

Suddenly the mod makes more sense.
orz

at least you understand my feature request now

baraatje123 wrote:

Scrambled fruit and HR v0.5 perhaps?
Idk about the HR v0.5 because... um... not sure, but all i know it might won't work as a good name, lets wait for someone who can think a perfect name for it

but scrambled fruits, sounds like a good name
Rilene
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Rilene
*bump*

Hope bumping less than 24 hour is allowed, if not, sry.

Any opnions here?
Bara-
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Bara-
Bumps shouldn't happen in less then 1 month xD
Oinari-sama
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Oinari-sama
That was totally unnecessary, read the Guidelines for Bumping A Request if you haven't.
Rilene
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Oinari-sama wrote:

That was totally unnecessary, read the Guidelines for Bumping A Request if you haven't.

baraatje123 wrote:

Bumps shouldn't happen in less then 1 month xD
Oh, sorry, didn't know that... ;-;
Rilene
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Rilene
I hope it is ok to bump now...

*bump*
abraker
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abraker
So you just want fruits that wiggle more?
Rilene
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Rilene

abraker wrote:

So you just want fruits that wiggle more?
Kinda, because it is hard to play with HR since the movement is chaotic, plus the smaller CS, OD (probably require faster reaction when doing hyperdashes), and AR.

And also it is good for practicing chaotic movements.
abraker
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abraker
In that case, I think I would call this mod scramble (SC).

I think you should be asking for something else, though. There is no way to control the instability of the fruit independently (unless I misunderstood how CtB works). While such mod is a good idea, some things should come before others and I think implementing a way to set the fruit instability in the editor would be the first step. While it might be annoying, you will only need to change the fruit instability setting in the editor then until the actual mod is implemented. That's my two cents.
Rilene
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abraker wrote:

In that case, I think I would call this mod scramble (SC).

I think you should be asking for something else, though. There is no way to control the instability of the fruit independently (unless I misunderstood how CtB works). While such mod is a good idea, some things should come before others and I think implementing a way to set the fruit instability in the editor would be the first step. While it might be annoying, you will only need to change the fruit instability setting in the editor then until the actual mod is implemented. That's my two cents.
Well, I'll explain some short simple stuffs. :)

There is no fruit position variation with our current HR, which means fruits position will always be the same.

Hope you understand what I said though. `~`
abraker
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abraker

Sirade wrote:

which means fruits position will always be the same.
I thought I knew what you were going at, but now I am even more lost. :?: :?: :?:
OzzyOzrock
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abraker wrote:

Sirade wrote:

which means fruits position will always be the same.
I thought I knew what you were going at, but now I am even more lost. :?: :?: :?:
Yeah now I'm lost too lol

Are the notes scrambling around or are they in the same place with more OD and stuff ._.
Rilene
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OzzyOzrock wrote:

Are the notes scrambling around or are they in the same place with more OD and stuff ._.
Um... I'm not sure how to explain but...

I think higher OD affects the reaction time for doing hyperdashes...
I'm quite not sure about this though..

Well.... I think someone can explain better than me about fruits placement when using HR... :?

abraker wrote:

Sirade wrote:

which means fruits position will always be the same.
I thought I knew what you were going at, but now I am even more lost. :?: :?: :?:
Oh well, ignore that part then, just think that there is no placement variation or unstability when using HR, hope you can understand this time... :?
abraker
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Uh.. ok I hope someone else who understands this has a better way of explaining it. Meanwhile I don't think my interpretation was a bad idea.
Rilene
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abraker wrote:

Uh.. ok I hope someone else who understands this has a better way of explaining it. Meanwhile I don't think my interpretation was a bad idea.
Try watch CtB HR and CtB nomod replay, on a same difficulty
then you'll see how it works
abraker
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abraker
Try watch CtB HR and CtB nomod replay, on a same difficulty
then you'll see how it works
Yea. Higher CS, higher AR, higher OD, higher HP, and higher Instability.
Granger
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Granger
OD does nothing like that, it just affects how much hp you loose from missed fruits and as such, is largely irrelevant for ctb.
The scrambled fruits stay in the same scrambled pattern for every play, theres no rescrambling.
abraker
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abraker

Granger wrote:

OD does nothing like that, it just affects how much hp you loose from missed fruits and as such, is largely irrelevant for ctb.
Weird, I compared the different aspects between nomod and HR and they go up according to the info ingame.
Granger
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Granger

abraker wrote:

Granger wrote:

OD does nothing like that, it just affects how much hp you loose from missed fruits and as such, is largely irrelevant for ctb.
Weird, I compared the different aspects between nomod and HR and they go up according to the info ingame.
Well, HR increases OD, yes. But the OD itself, even if its at OD10 doesnt really do much.
Rilene
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Rilene

Granger wrote:

OD does nothing like that, it just affects how much hp you loose from missed fruits and as such, is largely irrelevant for ctb.
So... Is that all OD does in CtB? =o






still not enough thoughts from community here...
Rilene
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Rilene
It is already 30 days...

*bump*
NextMiss
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Rilene
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Miriba Next Gen wrote:

I think OD is changing the Spinner too. On OD10 Spinner are harder, I think.
Well... The mod isn't all about spinners.
And the spinner is always harder on high OD, but it doesn't really matter (except for getting points) in CtB.
Rilene
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Rilene
Bump, again.

Any thoughts?
Rilene
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Rilene
Uh, bump.

HR is currently bit too hard.
Maybe having this as a seperate mod (position alterting and difficulty setting multiplier) would be nice for many players, IMO.
Rilene
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