Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
:^)Wilchq wrote:
Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
Because you can?Wilchq wrote:
Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
I can completely understand this, however you shouldn't forsake the mappool just because players think that way. In the end, putting way more unranked and even in TrickMirrors case, not hitsounded maps. In all honesty, have way more unranked won't do any justice. And if you guys keep challenging yourselves with these rules, im sure by antibeat 4/5 the unranked picks are totally worse. Im not saying no to unranked, im saying please use it appropriately. They are in WIP/Pending for a reason.Evrien wrote:
It's not a rule. It's just something the mappool selectors challenged themselves with.Glazbom wrote:
You can't select a map that was used in another tournament? that's a stupid rule.
They don't want the players to think: "Oh, it's the same maps again", that's all
Thats not really a good example, considering it was rank in late 2014s.Prophet wrote:
THIS is ranked.Ranking Criteria don't prevent ranking key-sound maps.0120 wrote:
pending/graveyarded maps
And in all, MOST players would choose to play maps with hitsound (including most expert players), so I really don't see the necessity. And if you insist on playing without hitsounds, you can still add this as an exception and play other maps unhitsounded.
In all honesty, i don't think picking same maps will lead it to become "stale". Most ranked picks aren't going to be a full off copy from another tournament, and everyday there are new maps getting ranked. I also don't understand why people must view as a boring, same old map instead of a map that they have played before and definitely have confidence in doing.jesus1412 wrote:
Playing the same maps in every tournament was getting stale, OWC is especially bad at this.
Melt3dCheeze wrote:
less unranked map pls
Uh, I heard from our teammates, that YOU don't want to reschedule matches (we were playing with germans, same timezone and shity hour). So maybe we can't?-Ryosuke wrote:
Because you can?Wilchq wrote:
Why can't we reschedule our matches? We have to play too early for the third time (have to work at weekends). Is this really a big problem?...
Wilchq wrote:
Uh, I heard from our teammates, that YOU don't want to reschedule matches (we were playing with germans, same timezone and shity hour). So maybe we can't?
I think you misunderstood that.-Ryosuke wrote:
For All-Star to run perfectly, you can't reschedule your match another day than the day assigned in the schedule and if you were to reschedule, just make it MAXIMUM 2 hour earlier or later the original match's time. Deadline is thursday 11:59PM UTC+0
it really is VERY boring, especially when the song type is not something you really like, playing it all over again (in order to regain the feeling of the map) is never a good idea, and some maps are just appearing more than 2 times I think...In all honesty, i don't think picking same maps will lead it to become "stale". Most ranked picks aren't going to be a full off copy from another tournament, and everyday there are new maps getting ranked. I also don't understand why people must view as a boring, same old map instead of a map that they have played before and definitely have confidence in doing.jesus1412 wrote:
Playing the same maps in every tournament was getting stale, OWC is especially bad at this.
Fixed. Sorry for the inconvenience.pooptartsonas wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something you added, but I still don't see anything in the rules about which mappool is played when? I don't mean to be obnoxious about it or anything but I want to make sure I'm practicing the right mappool.
You now only have to play one mappool (current week's)[Toy] wrote:
Doesn't making the loser bracket teams play two different really expansive mappools in the same weekend seem a bit heavy?
-Ryosuke wrote:
NoMod:
Nanjo Yoshino x Kayano Ai (as Shirabe Tsukuyomi x Kirika Akatsuki) - Edge Works of Goddess ZABABA [Death Melody] by blissfulyoshi
Susumu Hirasawa - SWITCHED-ON LOTUS [KIRBY Mix Deluxe] by starrodkirby86
FreeMod:
Warak - REANIMATE [LV. 10.1] by Amamiya Yuko
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination [Combustion] by Jenny
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played itAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.
This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
ok that solved the problemKotayo wrote:
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it
bro at least ex-termination... at least in none but not fm... please... QAQKotayo wrote:
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played itAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.
This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though
and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
I would like to support Amai in this case. Certain maps this round don't seem fit, and I particularly abhor the Switched-on Lotus map as well. I've seen other players voicing discontent for a few picks, too. In a setting where players are not allowed to ban maps, this particularly strains their playing strategy, and I think it's actually counter-intuitive to test players' real skills.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.
This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
Thank you Kotayo <3Kotayo wrote:
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played itAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.
This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though
and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
Kappa as a 6-year old player i'd like to sign alsowasisdasS wrote:
where do I signAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell
I will keyspam in that part, looks like a fairly good fc chance is given (not for rhythm game huh)fartownik wrote:
Not like anyone will FC Reanimate during the match because of that one 1/8-slider-jump part. It's pure random whether someone FCs that part or not.
You've seen through it all!wasisdasS wrote:
[joking mode] let's make switched-on lotus a EZ mod mappool.jesus1412 wrote:
Don't make switched on lotus ar9 that's so disgusting. I'm offended at the idea, replace the map or keep ar8.
Reanimate is also quite a shitty pick, 1/8 slider jumps are actually a lot about luck imo.
-Ryosuke wrote:
NoMod:
Suzuki Konomi - Cyber Thunder Cider [No Chilsung No Cider] by koreapenguin
Mappack is coming soon!
(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)
OMG this hidden pool <3-Ryosuke wrote:
[u]Hidden:
Pierce The Veil - King For A Day (feat Kellin Quinn) [Ex] by pishifat
a_hisa - Cheshire,s dance [Another] by Muya
nao - Dimension tripper!!!! (TV Size) [Skystar] by wcx19911123
Function Phantom - Neuronecia [Ethereal] by Amamiya Yuko
Mappack is coming soon!
(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)
what's the problem with Blue Zenith?Azer wrote:
What, you don't want to play blue zenith in a tournament? pfff
Azer wrote:
it's a kick in the nuts to everyone who can't stream
-Ryosuke wrote:
NoMod:
Ryu* - Plan 8 [Another] by Sprosive
LMAO GET READY TO GET REKT EVERYONE HAHAHAHAHAclp012345 wrote:
-Ryosuke wrote:
NoMod:
Ryu* - Plan 8 [Another] by Sprosive
YEEEEESSSSS
sukiNathan wrote:
mfw kagerou
Don't worry. We understand. In other news, get hyped for the rematch!-Ryosuke wrote:
Hello everyone,
I apologize to all viewers and participants for the events that occured last week-end, due to the lack of actual rules, burstlimit vs. #arsecrackers couldn't be handled as it should've been. All arguements were valid to point any team to win and advances to the Losers Finals, it's a pity that this kind of situation had to happen at this stage of the tournament, nonetheless, a rematch will be held NEXT week-end, (this week-end being particularly hard to schedule for both team.) on Saturday, when the Losers Finals will be held Sunday (then the 26th and 27th September.). Grand Finals will only happen in two weeks and I apologize for it. (3rd and 4th of October.)
This kind of rematches should NEVER happen, and that's why the All-Star comittee has etablished new rules for those kind of situations to never happen again:
New rules:
- If a player get DC'd before the first third of the match, if a FC from him would've changed the outcome of the match, a rematch is allowed.
- During the second third and last third, if the player who DC'd, still held a FC, and a complete FC would've changed the outcome, a rematch is allowed, if, nonetheless, if his actual score changes the outcome of the match, his score is actually counted with his team's score.
- If a player who DC'd once, DCs once again, his score is nullified and any other DC from him/her would lead to no-rematch.
- If a player from the same team DCs as well, it CAN lead to a rematch following the rules above, if a player from his team who already DC'd, DCs once again, it would lead to no rematch as his teammate's score was nullified in the first place.
- A map who has been rematched cannot be played again UNLESS the opponent team gets a DC and then leads a third rematch.
- Each team has 2 rematch allowed maximum.
- If 2 players from the same team DCs, no rematch will be allowed. Even if the opponent team gets one DC.
- If there is a DC from both teams, we will allow a rematch. If the DC'd players witnesses their first DC in the match, both team will "lose" one possibility to rematch afterwards.
- Players MUST use either stable/beta client as it's their responsabilities to ensure their network connection is stable.
- RESPECT the referee's decision.
- If any DCs looks shady/suspicious, referee must report it in the next second to me. (Disconnecting on purpose before a very hard part, having enough points to win the map if the questionable player does not fail.)
- Chatlogs will be monitored and questionable materials can be reported by either team and are subjected to review by the tournament committee. For parts that are obviously in direct violation of game rules (i.e. racist comments, personal threats, etc.), a report will be filed to relevant osu! staff. Otherwise, referee reserves the right to deal out punishment in the following order: (1. Warning -> 2. Forbidding the violating player to participate in the current match -> 3. Forbidding the violating team to participate in the current match and thus resulting in a default win of the opposing team)
- Tournament committee reserves the right to the final interpretation of all rules stated and not.
This tournament is now supporting Chilsung Cider.koreapenguin wrote:
-Ryosuke wrote:
NoMod:
Suzuki Konomi - Cyber Thunder Cider [No Chilsung No Cider] by koreapenguin
Mappack is coming soon!
(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)
LMAO
Thanks Loctav! This completely slipped through our minds. We'll make note for the future!Loctav wrote:
Wow, I ninjaupdated the access time for streamers. You really should let the administration know about this kind of delays...