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Toy
Doesn't making the loser bracket teams play two different really expansive mappools in the same weekend seem a bit heavy?
Evrien

[Toy] wrote:

Doesn't making the loser bracket teams play two different really expansive mappools in the same weekend seem a bit heavy?
You now only have to play one mappool (current week's)
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
NoMod:

FujuniseikouyuuP - Invasion of stray cats [Stray0108] by val0108
Camellia - Tabata no Uta - THE INNOCENT SHOJIN ROAD TO THE N.x.A.N. - [GUILT] by handsome
Nanjo Yoshino x Kayano Ai (as Shirabe Tsukuyomi x Kirika Akatsuki) - Edge Works of Goddess ZABABA [Death Melody] by blissfulyoshi
RYO - Shuffle Heaven [Another] by AngelHoney
Susumu Hirasawa - SWITCHED-ON LOTUS [KIRBY Mix Deluxe] by starrodkirby86
Rohi - Kakuzetsu Thanatos [Rin] by NatsumeRin
FujuniseikouyuuP - FREEDMAN [iyasine] by val0108
Ikareru Kin no Shishi - G59 [Extreme] by EvilElvis

HardRock:

SHIKI - Pure Ruby [Another] by tsuka
Hatsune Miku - Recommended Spell [Spell] by val0108
guna with team kyukkyu - subconsciousness [Another] by Snow Note
yuikonnu - Genjitsu Game [Extra] by Amamiya Yuko

Hidden:

44teru-k - Yami Shoujo no Yume , Kyomu no Sekai [Yuki's Extra] by [Twinkle]
Hitsuji to Ojisan - XENO [Expert] by toybot
sakuzyo - VALLISTA [iNsAnE] by Chloe
kemu - Ikasama Life Game [Ikasama] by Yales

DoubleTime:

Pendulum - Witchcraft [RAIN] by Quiz-chan
Yousei Teikoku - Kuraki Sekai no Doukoku (Short Ver.) [Lamentation] by lolcubes
TAM - Megumeru [Kotomi] by french dude
Hanatan - Kitsune no Yomeiri [Ryafuka] by Ryafuka

FreeMod:

BRZion - Game Brain [Extra] by Zapy
Warak - REANIMATE [LV. 10.1] by Amamiya Yuko
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination [Combustion] by Jenny
Hatsune Miku - Ohigan FuzzyClap [Prankster 0108] by val0108

TieBreaker:

Yooh - MariannE [Collab] by neonat

Mappack is coming soon!
fartownik

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:
Nanjo Yoshino x Kayano Ai (as Shirabe Tsukuyomi x Kirika Akatsuki) - Edge Works of Goddess ZABABA [Death Melody] by blissfulyoshi
Susumu Hirasawa - SWITCHED-ON LOTUS [KIRBY Mix Deluxe] by starrodkirby86

FreeMod:
Warak - REANIMATE [LV. 10.1] by Amamiya Yuko
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination [Combustion] by Jenny
AmaiHachimitsu
I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
Kotayo

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it

we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though

and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
AmaiHachimitsu

Kotayo wrote:

switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it
ok that solved the problem
Nezzar

Kotayo wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it

we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though

and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
bro at least ex-termination... at least in none but not fm... please... QAQ
Evrien

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
I would like to support Amai in this case. Certain maps this round don't seem fit, and I particularly abhor the Switched-on Lotus map as well. I've seen other players voicing discontent for a few picks, too. In a setting where players are not allowed to ban maps, this particularly strains their playing strategy, and I think it's actually counter-intuitive to test players' real skills.

Heck, why not just put in a EZ pool and call an esoteric set of skills such as that a part of the test too? And even EZ is less esoteric than Kirby mods and Ex-termination, just saying
Evrien

Kotayo wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I hereby submit a request for
SAVE THE QUEEN - EX-Termination
to be removed from the mappool.

This is not about taste anymore (it has never been), the maps for a tournament have some agreed rules and a map which has 1 (one) part that is 10x harder than the rest is unacceptable.
Another failure is a 500~ ish combo ZABABA map.
Apart from that, the difficulty spread is extremely diversed. I know you can't make all the maps equally difficult, but for god's sake, find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell.
I'm inclined to think this is just pickers trolling and laughing behind the scenes now.
switched on lotus isn't as hard as you make it out to be here, i promise you if it was AR9 everyone would have FC'ed it and there's probably a lot of people that can FC it that hasn't because they just simply haven't played it

we're gonna try to replace all 3 of the maps though

and honestly how did i even pass that ZABABA map wtf
Thank you Kotayo <3
Kotayo
writing this because ryosuke isn't at computer atm


ZABABA replaced by ---> mafumafu - Revenge Syndrome [Death]
EX-Termination replaced by ---> Neru - Ningen Shikkaku [Posthumous]
we're gonna make an AR9 version for switched on lotus
Prophet
I still want to keep the ar8 map. However changing it to ar9 is the decision of the whole map selecting group, so there's nothing much I want to say.
And the combustion is a obviously a mistake, I really apologize for that.
wasisdasS

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell
where do I sign
Nezzar

wasisdasS wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

find me a player who thinks that SWITCHED-ON LOTUS (5yo map with 15 FCs in history) is easier to FC (WHICH IS A PRIORITY IN A TOURNAMENT) than, let's say, Recommended Spell
where do I sign
Kappa as a 6-year old player i'd like to sign also
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Edited mappool is now available in the second post. Mappack will be available asap.

also,

Matches' results
Nowy Extra M-mo-monitor 1 - 4 A-95 https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18579907
Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth 1 - 5 burstlimit https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18581307
Hidden Double Rock 0 - 5 #arsecrackers https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18581025
SPD 5 - 0 Eden https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18582252
Where are we? 4 - 3 osutakus - https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18590891
Faplords 420 1 - 4 Cloud OD9 - https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18592454
Our Aim Sucks 4 - 3 Shiro Pantsu https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18593415
Cloud OD9 4 - 5 Eden https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18599458
Ghosts 1 - 5 AntiBeat https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18601376
A-95 5 - 1 Ghosts https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18617342
Where are we? 1 - 5 Wpierdol Gaming Rebirth - https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18617330
Our Aim Sucks 5 - 4 Hidden Double Rock https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/18617893
fartownik
Not like anyone will FC Reanimate during the match because of that one 1/8-slider-jump part. It's pure random whether someone FCs that part or not.
Nezzar

fartownik wrote:

Not like anyone will FC Reanimate during the match because of that one 1/8-slider-jump part. It's pure random whether someone FCs that part or not.
I will keyspam in that part, looks like a fairly good fc chance is given (not for rhythm game huh)
Btw after spending some times on ZABABA I think map is not that bad lolz
wasisdasS

jesse1412
Don't make switched on lotus ar9 that's so disgusting. I'm offended at the idea, replace the map or keep ar8.

Reanimate is also quite a shitty pick, 1/8 slider jumps are actually a lot about luck imo.
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

wasisdasS wrote:


You've seen through it all!
Nezzar

jesus1412 wrote:

Don't make switched on lotus ar9 that's so disgusting. I'm offended at the idea, replace the map or keep ar8.

Reanimate is also quite a shitty pick, 1/8 slider jumps are actually a lot about luck imo.
[joking mode] let's make switched-on lotus a EZ mod mappool.
I have no idea how come I'd have the interest to EZ pass this 3 months ago
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
NoMod:

sweet ARMS - TRUST IN YOU [Kurumi is love] by CXu
Ryu* - Plan 8 [Another] by Sprosive
Reol - Asymmetry [cRyo[Skystar]'s Farewell] by Skystar
Hitori Tori - perthed again (yambabom remix) [Extra] by Asphyxia
Seiryu - Critical Crystal [Ultra] by Priti
S-C-U feat. Qrispy Joybox - anemone [Spring] by Irreversible
Suzuki Konomi - Cyber Thunder Cider [No Chilsung No Cider] by koreapenguin
xi - Blue Zenith [ktgster's Extreme] by Asphyxia

HardRock:

bibuko - Sorairo Gahou [0108-Insane] by val0108
void feat. Komatsuna - Akatsuki no Tsuki [Skystar's Extreme] by Cherry Blossom
Qrispy Joybox - licca [Skystar's Expert] by Minakami Yuki
yuikonnu - Kakushigoto [CRN] by murasaki_sk

Hidden:

Pierce The Veil - King For A Day (feat Kellin Quinn) [Ex] by pishifat
a_hisa - Cheshire,s dance [Another] by Muya
nao - Dimension tripper!!!! (TV Size) [Skystar] by wcx19911123
Function Phantom - Neuronecia [Ethereal] by Amamiya Yuko

DoubleTime:

kors k - Wuv U [dksslqj Style] by Nakagawa-Kanon
Foreground Eclipse - Noble [Dear You] by keeeeeeko
Caravan Palace - Rock It For Me [Insane] by tiper
Owl City - Hello Seattle (Remix) [Goodbye] by JauiPlaY

FreeMod:

Last Note. - Setsuna Trip [0108 style] by val0108
cosMo@Bousou-P - Okeanos [Divinity] by Broccoly
Katakiri Rekka - Answer [Insane] by bakabaka
Susumu Hirasawa - Big Brother [KIRBY Mix] by Gens

TieBreaker:

Hanatan - Kagerou Variation [Haze] by RLC

Mappack is coming soon!

(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)
koreapenguin

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:

Suzuki Konomi - Cyber Thunder Cider [No Chilsung No Cider] by koreapenguin

Mappack is coming soon!

(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)

LMAO
Evrien

-Ryosuke wrote:



[u]Hidden:


Pierce The Veil - King For A Day (feat Kellin Quinn) [Ex] by pishifat
a_hisa - Cheshire,s dance [Another] by Muya
nao - Dimension tripper!!!! (TV Size) [Skystar] by wcx19911123
Function Phantom - Neuronecia [Ethereal] by Amamiya Yuko

Mappack is coming soon!

(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)
OMG this hidden pool <3
fartownik
I'm really glad we got eliminated
Azer
What, you don't want to play blue zenith in a tournament? pfff
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke

Azer wrote:

What, you don't want to play blue zenith in a tournament? pfff
what's the problem with Blue Zenith?
Azer
it's a kick in the nuts to everyone who can't stream :(
Poruteri
HELLISH MAPPOOL
xxdeathx

Azer wrote:

it's a kick in the nuts to everyone who can't stream :(

me irl
Nezzar

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:
Ryu* - Plan 8 [Another] by Sprosive

YEEEEESSSSS
Evrien

clp012345 wrote:

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:
Ryu* - Plan 8 [Another] by Sprosive

YEEEEESSSSS
LMAO GET READY TO GET REKT EVERYONE HAHAHAHAHA
Nathan
mfw kagerou
VINXIS

sukiNathan wrote:

mfw kagerou
Topic Starter
-Ryosuke
Hello everyone,

I apologize to all viewers and participants for the events that occured last week-end, due to the lack of actual rules, burstlimit vs. #arsecrackers couldn't be handled as it should've been. All arguements were valid to point any team to win and advances to the Losers Finals, it's a pity that this kind of situation had to happen at this stage of the tournament, nonetheless, a rematch will be held NEXT week-end, (this week-end being particularly hard to schedule for both team.) on Saturday, when the Losers Finals will be held Sunday (then the 26th and 27th September.). Grand Finals will only happen in two weeks and I apologize for it. (3rd and 4th of October.)

This kind of rematches should NEVER happen, and that's why the All-Star comittee has etablished new rules for those kind of situations to never happen again:

New rules:

  1. If a player get DC'd before the first third of the match, if a FC from him would've changed the outcome of the match, a rematch is allowed.
  2. During the second third and last third, if the player who DC'd, still held a FC, and a complete FC would've changed the outcome, a rematch is allowed, if, nonetheless, if his actual score changes the outcome of the match, his score is actually counted with his team's score.
  3. If a player who DC'd once, DCs once again, his score is nullified and any other DC from him/her would lead to no-rematch.
  4. If a player from the same team DCs as well, it CAN lead to a rematch following the rules above, if a player from his team who already DC'd, DCs once again, it would lead to no rematch as his teammate's score was nullified in the first place.
  5. A map who has been rematched cannot be played again UNLESS the opponent team gets a DC and then leads a third rematch.
  6. Each team has 2 rematch allowed maximum.
  7. If 2 players from the same team DCs, no rematch will be allowed. Even if the opponent team gets one DC.
  8. If there is a DC from both teams, we will allow a rematch. If the DC'd players witnesses their first DC in the match, both team will "lose" one possibility to rematch afterwards.
  9. Players MUST use either stable/beta client as it's their responsabilities to ensure their network connection is stable.
  10. RESPECT the referee's decision.
  11. If any DCs looks shady/suspicious, referee must report it in the next second to me. (Disconnecting on purpose before a very hard part, having enough points to win the map if the questionable player does not fail.)
  12. Chatlogs will be monitored and questionable materials can be reported by either team and are subjected to review by the tournament committee. For parts that are obviously in direct violation of game rules (i.e. racist comments, personal threats, etc.), a report will be filed to relevant osu! staff. Otherwise, referee reserves the right to deal out punishment in the following order: (1. Warning -> 2. Forbidding the violating player to participate in the current match -> 3. Forbidding the violating team to participate in the current match and thus resulting in a default win of the opposing team)
  13. Tournament committee reserves the right to the final interpretation of all rules stated and not.
Athrun

-Ryosuke wrote:

Hello everyone,

I apologize to all viewers and participants for the events that occured last week-end, due to the lack of actual rules, burstlimit vs. #arsecrackers couldn't be handled as it should've been. All arguements were valid to point any team to win and advances to the Losers Finals, it's a pity that this kind of situation had to happen at this stage of the tournament, nonetheless, a rematch will be held NEXT week-end, (this week-end being particularly hard to schedule for both team.) on Saturday, when the Losers Finals will be held Sunday (then the 26th and 27th September.). Grand Finals will only happen in two weeks and I apologize for it. (3rd and 4th of October.)

This kind of rematches should NEVER happen, and that's why the All-Star comittee has etablished new rules for those kind of situations to never happen again:

New rules:

  1. If a player get DC'd before the first third of the match, if a FC from him would've changed the outcome of the match, a rematch is allowed.
  2. During the second third and last third, if the player who DC'd, still held a FC, and a complete FC would've changed the outcome, a rematch is allowed, if, nonetheless, if his actual score changes the outcome of the match, his score is actually counted with his team's score.
  3. If a player who DC'd once, DCs once again, his score is nullified and any other DC from him/her would lead to no-rematch.
  4. If a player from the same team DCs as well, it CAN lead to a rematch following the rules above, if a player from his team who already DC'd, DCs once again, it would lead to no rematch as his teammate's score was nullified in the first place.
  5. A map who has been rematched cannot be played again UNLESS the opponent team gets a DC and then leads a third rematch.
  6. Each team has 2 rematch allowed maximum.
  7. If 2 players from the same team DCs, no rematch will be allowed. Even if the opponent team gets one DC.
  8. If there is a DC from both teams, we will allow a rematch. If the DC'd players witnesses their first DC in the match, both team will "lose" one possibility to rematch afterwards.
  9. Players MUST use either stable/beta client as it's their responsabilities to ensure their network connection is stable.
  10. RESPECT the referee's decision.
  11. If any DCs looks shady/suspicious, referee must report it in the next second to me. (Disconnecting on purpose before a very hard part, having enough points to win the map if the questionable player does not fail.)
  12. Chatlogs will be monitored and questionable materials can be reported by either team and are subjected to review by the tournament committee. For parts that are obviously in direct violation of game rules (i.e. racist comments, personal threats, etc.), a report will be filed to relevant osu! staff. Otherwise, referee reserves the right to deal out punishment in the following order: (1. Warning -> 2. Forbidding the violating player to participate in the current match -> 3. Forbidding the violating team to participate in the current match and thus resulting in a default win of the opposing team)
  13. Tournament committee reserves the right to the final interpretation of all rules stated and not.
Don't worry. We understand. In other news, get hyped for the rematch!
FlyingKiwi

koreapenguin wrote:

-Ryosuke wrote:

NoMod:

Suzuki Konomi - Cyber Thunder Cider [No Chilsung No Cider] by koreapenguin

Mappack is coming soon!

(About Dimension Tripper!! wcx is changing the AR and it'll be permanent until Grand Finals ends.)

LMAO
This tournament is now supporting Chilsung Cider.
Evrien
A reminder that the next match will be this Sunday at UTC 1200!
Loctav
Wow, I ninjaupdated the access time for streamers. You really should let the administration know about this kind of delays...
Evrien

Loctav wrote:

Wow, I ninjaupdated the access time for streamers. You really should let the administration know about this kind of delays...
Thanks Loctav! This completely slipped through our minds. We'll make note for the future!
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