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jericho2442
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 02 June 2010 at 23:40:19

Artist: Access
Title: Hitomi no Tsubasa (TV Size)
Source: Code geass 3rd OP
Tags: Hangyaku no Lelouch Anime J-Pop Beuchi-chan Ztrot
BPM: 144
Filesize: 15071kb
Play Time: 01:15
Difficulties Available:
  1. Beuchi's Hard (4.47 stars, 160 notes)
  2. Easy (2.08 stars, 74 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 299 notes)
  4. Normal+ (4.4 stars, 122 notes)
  5. ztrot's Requiem (4.98 stars, 279 notes)
Download: Access - Hitomi no Tsubasa (TV Size)
Download: Access - Hitomi no Tsubasa (TV Size) (no video)
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Something different from me :).

3rd OP from code geass, VERY good song and i hope you all enjoy it :)

Thanks to Dangaard for the Video

Thanks to Beuchi-chan and Ztrot for the guest diff's ;)
Ultimate
Quick bpm and offset check :P

BPM: 144,040
OFFSET: 7.700

I'll test play when updated ^^!
Topic Starter
jericho2442

Ultimate wrote:

Quick bpm and offset check :P

BPM: 144,035
OFFSET: 7.700

I'll test play when updated ^^!
fixed and thanks for the star :)
AngelHoney
Star~ :) :)
Mismagius
Easy
00:56:019 (3) - Align with the end of (2)?
01:01:018 (2,1) - I don't think newbies can do a 1/2 like this..

Normal +
Actually it's Normal+ :P BTW, I think this is too hard for a Normal+. Maybe rename to Hard?
If you want to keep Normal+, at least lower Overall diff by 1 or 2.

00:10:199 (5) - Make this a mirrored (4)?

Insane
01:21:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Maybe use soft hitsounds and add whistles?

Jericho's maps <3
Star
Topic Starter
jericho2442

Blue Dragon wrote:

Easy
00:56:019 (3) - Align with the end of (2)? fixed
01:01:018 (2,1) - I don't think newbies can do a 1/2 like this.. its one note, what is easy read, i think they will survive ;)

Normal +
Actually it's Normal+ :P BTW, I think this is too hard for a Normal+. Maybe rename to Hard?
If you want to keep Normal+, at least lower Overall diff by 1 or 2.kinda stuck here myself too, i need one more persons opinion over wether its normal or hard

00:10:199 (5) - Make this a mirrored (4)?

Insane
01:21:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Maybe use soft hitsounds and add whistles? tru sounds nice

Jericho's maps <3
Star
thanks for mod and star :)
Beuchi
Hi hi! :P

Some suggestions for yur map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree with me :P
Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- Capitalize "Geass" on Source, and maybe delete "3rd opening"?
- Delete "Code Geass" from Tags, it's already on Source so it isn't necessary :P
- Offset: 2700? or around that, I'm not so good with timings :/

~Easy~
01:01:851 (1) - Stack under (2)'s end.
01:21:012 (1) - Finish it on 01:27:677, like you did on [Insane]

~Normal+~
- This is more Hard than Normal imo, if you want to keep it like a Normal decrease Overall Difficulty a bit.

00:10:199 (5) - Flip horizontally?
00:35:608 (x) - Add a note here?
01:21:012 (1) - Finish it on 01:27:677, like you did on [Insane]

~Insane~
01:00:393 (4) - Make it a horizontal reflection of (3).
01:04:350 (x) - Add a note here?

Loooove this song!! Also... I made a diff for it... I don't mind if you don't want to add it, don't worry xD
Download: Access - Hitomi No Tsubasa (TV Size) (jericho2442) [Beuchi's Hard].osu

Good Job jericho!! :) *star + star*
Topic Starter
jericho2442

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hi hi! :P

Some suggestions for yur map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree with me :P
Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- Capitalize "Geass" on Source, and maybe delete "3rd opening"? its needed, but changed to OP rather than opening
- Delete "Code Geass" from Tags, it's already on Source so it isn't necessary :P fixed
- Offset: 2700? or around that, I'm not so good with timings :/ almost right, 2.701 works a tiny bit better ;)

~Easy~
01:01:851 (1) - Stack under (2)'s end. no the spacing there is important
01:21:012 (1) - Finish it on 01:27:677, like you did on [Insane] no that would creat a waaay to long slider

~Normal+~
- This is more Hard than Normal imo, if you want to keep it like a Normal decrease Overall Difficulty a bit. took OD down 2
00:10:199 (5) - Flip horizontally? nah
00:35:608 (x) - Add a note here? added
01:21:012 (1) - Finish it on 01:27:677, like you did on [Insane] see easy

~Insane~
01:00:393 (4) - Make it a horizontal reflection of (3). nah
01:04:350 (x) - Add a note here? nah

Loooove this song!! Also... I made a diff for it... I don't mind if you don't want to add it, don't worry xD
[attachment=0:5e6e6]Access - Hitomi No Tsubasa (TV Size) (jericho2442) [Beuchi's Hard].osu[/attachment:5e6e6]

sure, few changes discussed in IRC and now im very happy to ahve your guest diff <3
Good Job jericho!! :) *star + star*
thanks much for everything :)
arien666
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
jericho2442

arken1015 wrote:

[Easy]
No problem

[Normal+]
00:07:69(1) - I think Start and Reverse are not aligned. How about move 3rd spot(I don't know better word but...) 1 grid right? fixed

[Beuchi's Hard]
Some notes are not snapped (Fixed on IRC modding) fixed

[Insane]
00:28:73(4) - [Suggestion] I think Start and Finish are not aligned. How about move 3rd spot 1 grid up? thats how i wanted it
00:45:60(9) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up? fixed
01:04:76(1) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left? ^
01:06:01(4) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up? ^
01:06:43(5) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left? ^
01:12:68(6) - [Suggestion] How about align with (5)? It seems not perfectly aligned :3 ^
01:16:84(1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up? ^



Yay! Good song :3
And good luck.

Here's my star.
thanks :)
An64fan
[General]
Um... That purple's a little hard to see, I hate to announce.
General difficulty is a little high, but it's not bad, and still stands in the ranges you've placed them.

[Hard]
00:02:701 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This threw me off horribly. I think this is going to catch everyone on the first play...
00:27:068 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing makes it seem later, unfortunately.
00:44:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This also caught me off. All of it. Constantly.
00:53:936 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same deal. Consider a patter adjustment maybe?
00:57:685 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - Same old.
01:04:141 (1,2,3) - Also managed to catch me off (bad visibility doesn't help).
01:08:098 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Festival of Ghost pattern anyone? I'm actually pleased. I love that pattern. :D

[Insane]
00:11:240 (2,3,4,5,6) - Actually pretty awkward to play.
00:12:906 (2,3,4) - So is this one.
00:22:904 (2,3,4,5,6) - Sounds a bit out of place. Next one a little less so.
00:49:146 (6,7) - Not a big problem (I read just fine), but I see 101 ways for people to misread that (hard-to-read purple maybe?)
01:21:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - At this, I have to say: "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!" Still half a beat of overlap, but that doesn't make it any less awkward.
I can't appreciate the spacing jackup, especially on the streams.
To be honest, I wouldn't have expected an Insane out of a song like this.


That's all I really caught on my plays. I enjoy it though, ignoring the...quirks?
Topic Starter
jericho2442

An64fan wrote:

[General]
Um... That purple's a little hard to see, I hate to announce.
General difficulty is a little high, but it's not bad, and still stands in the ranges you've placed them.

[Insane]
00:11:240 (2,3,4,5,6) - Actually pretty awkward to play. no its fine
00:12:906 (2,3,4) - So is this one. no
00:22:904 (2,3,4,5,6) - Sounds a bit out of place. Next one a little less so. no
00:49:146 (6,7) - Not a big problem (I read just fine), but I see 101 ways for people to misread that (hard-to-read purple maybe?) no
01:21:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - At this, I have to say: "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!" Still half a beat of overlap, but that doesn't make it any less awkward. no
I can't appreciate the spacing jackup, especially on the streams. *facepalm*
To be honest, I wouldn't have expected an Insane out of a song like this.


That's all I really caught on my plays. I enjoy it though, ignoring the...quirks?
srry cant give you kudo for your mod on my map since its a horrd mod :/
Beuchi

An64fan wrote:

[Hard]
00:02:701 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This threw me off horribly. I think this is going to catch everyone on the first play... Changed the spacing :3
00:27:068 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing makes it seem later, unfortunately. I've seen a lot of things like this in a lot of maps... It's maybe weird spacing, but it's because of symmetry :/
00:44:355 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - This also caught me off. All of it. Constantly. Symmetry again :<
00:53:936 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Same deal. Consider a patter adjustment maybe? Adjustment? It's just flipped o.O
00:57:685 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - Same old. I'm starting to think you don't like symmetry oxo... But I do :(
01:04:141 (1,2,3) - Also managed to catch me off (bad visibility doesn't help). Bad visibility would be because of the combocolours/background, maybe jericho can change them, up to him, though.
01:08:098 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Festival of Ghost pattern anyone? I'm actually pleased. I love that pattern. :D xD Thanks.
Thank you, but I'll only change that first pattern, I kind of agree with you, that spacing could be better oxo
Download: Access - Hitomi No Tsubasa (TV Size) (jericho2442) [Beuchi's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
jericho2442
added your update Beuchi-chan

also combo colours wont be changed unless a bat forces me to do so, ive had 0 probs reading it.
An64fan
Are you playing on an LCD screen? Because I'm certainly not.
Sushi
[Insane]
The last stream is... huh.


Nice map, sir.
Natteke
<3
Symbolic
- in General
  1. Remove .osb file, it's unused (Full Submit after removing it).
  2. The Kiai Time feels really out of place, remove that please.
- Easy
  1. Lower the Overall Difficulty.
- Normal+
  1. Lower the Overall Difficulty by 1 tick.
- Beuchi's Hard
  1. Nothing here.
- Insane
  1. Nothing here.

Fun song,
Starred *
Topic Starter
jericho2442

Symbolic wrote:

- in General
  1. Remove .osb file, it's unused (Full Submit after removing it). removed
  2. The Kiai Time feels really out of place, remove that please. no i like the kiai time

- Easy
  1. Lower the Overall Difficulty.
fixed
- Normal+
  1. Lower the Overall Difficulty by 1 tick.
fixed
- Beuchi's Hard
  1. Nothing here.
- Insane
  1. Nothing here.

Fun song,
Starred *
ty for mod
Lokamp
[General] remove initial countdown... it doesn't fit very well with this map's beginning...

Easy
00:21:029 (1) - end it with clap
01:15:181 (3) - silence it!
01:21:012 (spinner) - silence it, too!

Normal+
01:21:012 (spinner) - see Easy

Beuchi's Hard
00:04:366 (spinner) - silence this spinner's end (or maybe set soft finish)

Insane
Very well!

Another superb work with the usual Hi-skilled guest mapper!
One last thing before starring, jericho: try to add on your modes some whistles during kiai kime! To listen sequential claps in a row on Insane can be weird...
Beuchi

Lokamp wrote:

Beuchi's Hard
00:04:366 (spinner) - silence this spinner's end (or maybe set soft finish) Soft finish set :3

Changes made! I also removed countdown :3
Download: Access - Hitomi No Tsubasa (TV Size) (jericho2442) [Beuchi's Hard].osu
Topic Starter
jericho2442

Lokamp wrote:

[General] remove initial countdown... it doesn't fit very well with this map's beginning... fixed

Easy
00:21:029 (1) - end it with clap fixed
01:15:181 (3) - silence it! nah i dont like it
01:21:012 (spinner) - silence it, too! fixed

Normal+
01:21:012 (spinner) - see Easy fixed

Beuchi's Hard
00:04:366 (spinner) - silence this spinner's end (or maybe set soft finish)

Insane
Very well!

Another superb work with the usual Hi-skilled guest mapper!
One last thing before starring, jericho: try to add on your modes some whistles during kiai kime! To listen sequential claps in a row on Insane can be weird...srry im not a fan of whistles so i will leave this out ;)
thanks much and updated your diff too beuchi :)
ZeTia
nice map :P
Jinxy
You could just make the spinner start at 01:15:180 and end at 01:20:596. If you change it, disregard all spinner mods at the bottom.

[Easy]
01:21:012 (1) - Unsilence this spinner. Try using Soft?

[Normal+]
Same as Easy.

[Beuchi]
Nothing

[Insane]
Nada.

Starred.
ztrot
Love almost done let me know what you thing of the hitsounds tho
http://up.ppy.sh/files/hitsounds.rar

Download: Access - Hitomi No Tsubasa (TV Size) (jericho2442) [ztrot's Gaze].osu
ztrot
Topic Starter
jericho2442
thanks ztrot added :D

no more guest diff's now though ppl ;0
Symbolic
- ztrot's Gaze
  1. 00:19:154 (4,1) - This jump is really tricky, can you change it.
edit: PUBBLED
Topic Starter
jericho2442

Symbolic wrote:

- in General
  1. Put ztrot in Tags
this was done before you even posted due to i noticed it myself, thus i cannot give kudo
ztrot
ztrot
Topic Starter
jericho2442
o/ updated ;)
ztrot
YaY!
arien666
[ztrot's Gaze]
00:02:701 (1,5) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid down?
00:21:654 (5) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?
00:27:694 (1) - [Suggestion] How about align start and end(1st return)?
00:31:234 (2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?
00:38:940 (3) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left and up?



Good song anyway.
And new custom hitsounds seem good XD
Good luck.

ps. Don't give kudosu for this reply :3...
Mukku
Best song choice you've mapped yet.
QawQ_old
good map 8-) .i failed insane :D
Andrea
IRC Modding.

Bubbled~
Topic Starter
jericho2442
<3 thanks much
ztrot
Sombody rank this
Ephemeral
Everything is mostly okay (I say mostly because there were several things which irritated me but not enough to make me want to point them out) aside from a couple of things in ztrot's Gaze:

May want to consider renaming it ztrot's Requiem if you're feeling smarmy, that's not all that important though.

This however, is:
00:50:187 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Scoreburst occlusion ruins these tangles. They're too close together and they don't creep at all so the effect gets worse and stays that way throughout the duration of the pattern. Shifting the block further up from the preceding stream and making the rows of the tangle creep say, 3 grid spaces up each time will retain difficulty while still keeping the thing playable. Apply this to all of these tangles in the map, as there's a fair few during kiai

01:16:013 (6) - This should start at 01:15:180 and finish where it currently finishes. The preceding notes make little sense anyway, so this not only emphasizes the wonderful geass slider art but also gives it some actual flow in the map

EHIII spread makes me cringe a little bit, but it's somewhat passable. I suppose. If you can tone down Normal+ to a flat Normal and get Beuchi to trim a couple of things back in her difficulty, you could easily nab a perfect difficulty spread with this mapset. Not required, but would make me a happy panda.

Oh, and Beuchi's Hard needs to have the kiai time that the other difficulties have. Looks weird without it.
Beuchi

Ephemeral wrote:

Oh, and Beuchi's Hard needs to have the kiai time that the other difficulties have. Looks weird without it.
Read my signature: NO

If it won't get ranked because of my diff without kiai then delete it. Good luck~ <3
Topic Starter
jericho2442

Ephemeral wrote:

If you can tone down Normal+ to a flat Normal and get Beuchi to trim a couple of things back in her difficulty, you could easily nab a perfect difficulty spread with this mapset. Not required, but would make me a happy panda.
srry but i will keep my normal+ as is, as you say its not required to change and tbh i like it how it is ;)
ztrot
Ephemeral
Still need to extend that geass slider >:|
ztrot
kinda fixed made the tangles go in a more suited pattern

Download: Access - Hitomi No Tsubasa (TV Size) (jericho2442) [ztrot's Requiem].osu
Topic Starter
jericho2442
updated ;)
Mok
Source could be only "Code Geass: Lelouch of the rebellion" and 3rd OP could be a tag D:
Ephemeral
Been noticing that the timing is askdajdadkasdijsa in some bits:

I think this is better, but the offsets may need fiddling with:

[TimingPoints]
2713,416.666666666667,4,1,0,100,1,0
7491,-100,4,1,1,100,0,0
51022,416.666666666667,4,1,1,100,1,1
74243,-100,4,2,0,64,0,0
76118,-100,4,1,0,10,0,0

The mp3 is also mastered horrifically loud. Observe:



Then, observe the waveform of a personal rip from an existing 720p blu-ray rip I had lying around:



Looks like you've auto-gained to +3dB or something. Some people like loud music which is fine - they can use the volume knob to solve that for themselves. There's no point in forcing them to listen to that shit.

Here's a replacement: http://www.mediafire.com/?unij2h34cmm

Updated timing:
T1: 144 / 2327 | T2: 144 / 50,636

Topic Starter
jericho2442
ok ive lowered the mp3 (which was around 2.3db louder :P)

but ive not used the mp3 you provided since theres a small glitch in the silence at the start, and im paranoid over stuff like that, so i prefer not to have them.

yours is top waves, bottom waves is it glitch free, thats why i didnt use the mp3, very srry :/


also didnt use your timing since it felt a lil out to me, thx anyway ;)
Beuchi
So... I realized that we have 3 "Insane" diffs on the map, and with this new rule of "only 2 of the same diff" this won't be ranked...

I've modified my diff to make it a bit more easier. It still doesn't have Kiai, so if Ephemeral says that it can't be added just forget this one and delete my original diff on your mapset, okay? ^^

Download: Access - Hitomi No Tsubasa (TV Size) (jericho2442) [Beuchi's Hard].osu

Good luck~
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