Mind Vortex - Alive · forum

Poggo

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-08-22T09:04:41+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 1 февраля 2015 г. at 20:01:33

Artist: Mind Vortex
Title: Alive
Tags: kazuya arc alive wafu dnb drum and bass kazuya-sama nozhomi
BPM: 173
Filesize: 5130kb
Play Time: 02:57
Difficulties Available:

Easy (1,84 stars, 189 notes)
Insane (5,08 stars, 484 notes)
Kazuya's Normal (2 stars, 210 notes)
Wafu's Hard (3,44 stars, 352 notes)

Download: Mind Vortex - Alive
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Easy by Me and Nozhomi - DONE
Normal by Kazuya-sama - DONE
Hard by Wafu - DONE
Insane by Me - DONE

Last edited by Poggo 2015-02-01T14:02:00+00:00, edited 45 times in total.

Kazuya

894 posts

Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2014-08-23T09:12:08+00:00

Go!

Normal diff

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Mind Vortex - Alive.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 66667
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 20892,44473
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.7

[Metadata]
Title:Alive
TitleUnicode:Alive
Artist:Mind Vortex
ArtistUnicode:Mind Vortex
Creator:Katty Pie
Version:Kazuya's Normal
Source:
Tags:Kazuya-sama
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:0.999999999999999
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Rainbow_Drip.png",0,0
//Break Periods
2,89061,95984
2,100852,102226
2,106053,107081
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

[TimingPoints]
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177637,-100,4,2,0,5,0,0


[Colours]
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Combo2 : 80,241,225
Combo3 : 255,255,0
Combo4 : 139,87,249
Combo5 : 216,61,154
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Poggo

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Poggo 2014-08-26T14:05:46+00:00

Kazuya wrote:

Go!

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goooood

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2014-09-02T11:50:24+00:00

u stole my bg, haha
nice map anyways^^

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-09-03T14:15:23+00:00

phaZ wrote:
u stole my bg, haha
nice map anyways^^

Bcz I love this bg ^^'' sorry and thank you

Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2014-09-07T14:27:43+00:00

Guest difficulty progress (Hard) - Done

Last edited by Wafu 2014-09-28T14:56:35+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Nozhomi

Global Moderator

4,575 posts

Joined May 2013

Nozhomi 2014-09-21T23:14:27+00:00

Take 2 of my stars baka Katty Pie :3

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-09-23T12:24:19+00:00

Nozhomi wrote:
Take 2 of my stars baka Katty Pie :3

thank you ^^

Ashasaki

384 posts

Joined August 2014

Ashasaki 2014-10-04T13:13:47+00:00

Kouhai o/

just suggestion XD

Easy

* 00:54:877 (5,1) - Too close from each other imo

*02:04:927 (1) - seems ugly to me

*02:53:476 (3,4) - maybe you should up its volume a lil bit?

Kazuya's Normal

*00:22:279 (3) - uhhh i think new combo color for here?

*01:03:546 (5) - i think you should move it here(372,320) , next this one 01:03:893 (1) - (416,220) , then this one 01:04:413 (2) - (440,76) seems much better for me

*01:40:132 (3) - seems not on the rhythm but how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2100090 i think it's better if it's a repeat slider imo

The rest seems fine to me ^_^

|

Wafu's Hard

*O* seems fine for, no prob at all

Insane

*00:38:925 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - seems too hard even the ones who wants to try DT, you should end every repeat slider to the blue tick instead of yellow tick

*02:10:475 (1,1,1,1) - same ^

*02:53:476 (1,1,1,1) - same

*00:43:086 (1) - then put hitcircle here imo

*02:56:250 (1) - same ^

The rest seems Fine to me

Best of luck Katty *O*

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-10-04T15:06:08+00:00

Thank you for mod :3 some fixed~

Kazuya

894 posts

Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2014-10-08T14:12:54+00:00

lShuuichi wrote:
Kouhai o/

Kazuya's Normal
*00:22:279 (3) - uhhh i think new combo color for here?

*01:03:546 (5) - i think you should move it here(372,320) , next this one 01:03:893 (1) - (416,220) , then this one 01:04:413 (2) - (440,76) seems much better for me

*01:40:132 (3) - seems not on the rhythm but how about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2100090 i think it's better if it's a repeat slider imo

The rest seems fine to me ^_^

Heyho. \o Thanks for mod. Fixed all. ~

Latest code

Last edited by Kazuya 2014-10-09T10:58:04+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

VINXIS

Featured Artist

3,161 posts

Joined April 2014

VINXIS 2014-10-08T23:01:13+00:00

lmao (m4m/nm/idk... 4 katty pie this is my first ever mod anyway (you don't have to mod my map either lol))
just suggestions lol

Easy

00:56:611 (3) - x:352 y:180
00:56:958 (4) - x:296 y:268
01:39:265 (1) - add circle at x:304 y:104 and move slider to 01:39:958 and make it 1/2 longer?
02:54:516 (4) - x:348 y:224

Kazuya's Normal

01:39:265 (1) - move to 1:39:091, Ctrl+G, and add a repeater?
02:16:717 (2) - Idk i thought this circle looked cooler at x:320 y:192 lol but yea
wow can't say much about the normal tbh

Wafu's Hard

02:16:717 (2) - x:320 y:96
00:24:880 (4) - x:352 y:160
00:51:062 (3) - x:224 y:320
00:51:236 (4) - x:256 y:224
00:56:611 (3) - x:384 y:64
00:56:784 (4) - x:288 y:64
00:59:385 (3,4) - might as well move them to x:469 y:261 (stack on top of the slider) lmao
01:02:159 (3) - x:384 y:152
01:02:333 (4) - x:480 y:288
01:28:861 (6) - x:320 y:128 (would rather put it here for hard imo but that jump looks cool anyway so)
01:40:305 - add circle here somewhere around x:214 y:163 ?
02:33:709 (3) - x:192 y:352
02:33:883 (4) - x:253 y:279
almost all of these are pattern change suggestions tbh rip
most of these are the 2-note changes anyway

Insane

Was fun to play c:
OD8??? lol
00:38:925 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - new Cheshire,s dance lmao
01:13:256 (4,5) - Ctrl+G?
01:20:192 (7) - x:296 y:308
01:20:365 (8) - x:324 y:148
01:27:474 (1) - change to 1/4 slider?
02:24:520 (2,3) - Ctrl+G?
02:42:032 (4,5) - Ctrl+G?
idk how this got to 5.17 stars rip but yea

Goodluck!

Last edited by VINXIS 2014-10-09T14:16:33+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

hhkkyy

43 posts

Joined October 2013

hhkkyy 2014-10-09T01:23:09+00:00

From paper modding queue
[Normal]

No pros.I think it's good

[Hard]

00:24:707 (3,4,1) - Too far,the distance is approximate with 00:25:574 (2,3) and seems not propper.
00:26:267 (5,1) - same problem
00:41:526 Drum sound here
00:32:509 (2,3) - and 00:32:856 (3,1) - have a approximate distance,may be not proper in a hard diff.
01:17:591 (4,1) - Why not just keep a distance snap...I think it will seem more structured.
01:06:494 (4,1) - same problem
02:11:862 (1,2) - 02:13:076 (3,1) - Still,1/2 clap and 1 clap should have different distance
02:22:959 (1,2) - Blanket them~

[Insane]

So many copy pastes...maybe lazy?(Well,I'm lazy as well....)
01:05:020 (4) - Is it overmapped?Don't seems necessary here....
01:39:265 (1,2) - I think use the rhythm of hard is better,I don't quite understand what sound you matches here...
01:43:773 (3,4) - Same pro
02:11:862 (1,1) - How about divide them in to 4 sliders?Since music goes intence here...
02:30:068 (2,3,4) - Too many red line sliders may make the rhythm bad,what's more it may be unranked by some QAT

That's all,maybe it doesn't help much,but anyway,good luck!

Kazuya

894 posts

Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2014-10-09T10:57:20+00:00

VINXIS wrote:
Kazuya's Normal

01:39:265 (1) - move to 1:39:091, Ctrl+G, and add a repeater? hmm. Okay
02:16:717 (2) - Idk i thought this circle looked cooler at x:320 y:192 lol but yea
wow can't say much about the normal tbh don't change.

Thanks

Code

osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 155443
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 20892,44473
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.7

[Metadata]
Title:Alive
TitleUnicode:Alive
Artist:Mind Vortex
ArtistUnicode:Mind Vortex
Creator:Katty Pie
Version:Kazuya's Normal
Source:
Tags:Kazuya-sama wafu Nozhomi dnb drum and base
BeatmapID:487413
BeatmapSetID:205309

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:0.999999999999999
SliderTickRate:2

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2,101025,102226
2,106053,107081
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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VINXIS

Featured Artist

3,161 posts

Joined April 2014

VINXIS 2014-10-09T14:15:05+00:00

doublepost sorry

np and good luck anyway lol

Last edited by VINXIS 2014-10-09T17:11:31+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-10-09T14:35:58+00:00

Thx for mod guys :3 Some fixed.

DraQeu

121 posts

Joined May 2014

DraQeu 2014-10-31T11:33:09+00:00

From my mod queue

[Insane]

It feels like this diff has no HP drain at all would suggest HP 8

[Wafu's Hard]

I think AR8 is better for this bpm

[Kazuya's Normal]

01:03:893 (1,2) - ugly overlap imo

[Easy]

00:37:885 (4,5) - This flow is weird
02:36:137 (2,3,4,5) - This flow may be too hard for a beginner

Sorry that I couldn't find more, good luck

Kazuya

894 posts

Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2014-11-02T15:00:51+00:00

Ok, thanks.

osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 155443
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.7

[Metadata]
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TitleUnicode:Alive
Artist:Mind Vortex
ArtistUnicode:Mind Vortex
Creator:Katty Pie
Version:Kazuya's Normal
Source:
Tags:Kazuya-sama wafu Nozhomi dnb drum and base
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CircleSize:3
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Poggo

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Poggo 2014-11-05T11:27:55+00:00

thank you for mod, fixed some :3

Shadren

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Shadren 2014-11-15T16:57:03+00:00

Хмм, неплохо. Мне нравиться.

Лови

Poggo

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Poggo 2014-11-17T05:10:20+00:00

Shadren wrote:
Хмм, неплохо. Мне нравиться.

Лови

thanks

Sieg

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Joined February 2012

Sieg 2014-12-03T13:15:40+00:00

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[General]

Хотелось бы видеть подробно, что изменилось, не просто сам фиксед.
А откуда тайминг, у меня получилось 83 // 173
Отрежем пару мс от клэпа, а то будут приставать с этим http://puu.sh/dfaFP/fbe9fc0736.wav
БГ обязательно должен быть в png? Если нет каких-либо весомых причин сделай jpg. Еще лучше если ты найдешь 1366х768 версию своего БГ
СБ нет, удали splash1.png splash2.png splash3.png
"kazuya arc alive" в тэги, "Kazuya-sama" из тэгов, убедись нужно ли там "Nozhomi"

[Хитсунды]

На всех дифах просто скопировано?... ну так будет даже легче
Избавься от нормал-хитнормал долбежки, как пример я тебе приведу это 00:50:022 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - место что у тебя там как в тире http://puu.sh/dfbxV/2bfe29fd90.mp3 а должно быть как тут http://puu.sh/dfbz7/cd817f17d1.mp3
То есть, посмотри внимательно на такие штуки 00:52:970 (2) // 00:53:316 (4) // 00:53:490 (1) // так-же на начало и концы слайдеров и заменяй нормалхит-нормал на что-нибудь более легкое.
Если тебе интересно, что я нахитсаундил в примере напиши мне ингейм или форум пм, подскажу.

[Easy]

00:21:239 (1,2) - Вот из этого 1 слайдер, объяснение напишу в нормале.
00:47:248 (1,2) - Из этого 1 рипит слайдер, с рипитом 00:47:768 () - вот тут http://puu.sh/dfbU8/971419d648.jpg или слайдер + круг http://puu.sh/dfbTr/96a34ea388.jpg
^ В общем бит 00:47:768 () гораздо сильнее 00:47:941 () и хорошо бы видеть какую-либо игру от него или т.к. это изи накрыть их оба одним слайдером.
Отмечу подобные места:
00:55:570 (1,2) // 00:58:345 (1,2) // 02:07:701 (1,2) // 02:09:088 (2,3) // 02:31:282 (3,1) // 02:43:766 (1,2) // 02:46:540 (1,2) // 02:49:661 (2,3) -
01:03:893 (1) 4 бита, для восстановления на изи, как вариант удлинить до 01:06:667 () - а дальше начать с 01:08:055 (1) - http://puu.sh/dfcIH/7bba92845f.jpg или просто заменить чем-нибудь. Сокращать до 01:05:280 () - нельзя т.к. тогда он будет слишком коротким для изи.
02:24:693 (2,4) - Как-нибудь их загнуть, чтоб они не упирались совсем в края.
Еще хорошо-бы избавится от стаков 01:14:643 (5,2) - и 02:22:266 (2,4) -

[Kazuya's Normal]

00:21:239 (1,2) - Make 1 slider from them, cus strong part of lyrics landing is not really accurate on 00:21:933 (2) - so this will lead to misshits. http://puu.sh/dfd5k/0edc5d17fe.jpg
00:23:320 (4) - Guitar sounds jitters here, this is doesn't need additional timing point cus this is just for the very on note but you should avoid mapping that beat as a circle. Better solution will be cover this note with slider body or skip.
01:37:184 (1) - 2 bets to recovery after spinner for normal.
^ Also applies to:
01:48:281 (1) // 02:10:475 (1)
01:39:785 (2) - This beat in music is so weak, also incoming lyrics ruin this more. Think about replacing this, there are plenty of variants.
01:44:293 (3) - ^Same

[Wafu's Hard]

00:22:800 (2,3,4) - Background rhythm for this is so weak so I suggest you to go a bit easy on this for example: http://puu.sh/dfeFw/413d1ba5f4.jpg
Also read my comment in normal for 00:23:320 () about notes in that part
00:25:747 () - why most stronger instrument in background - lyrics is skipped here? W
00:28:522 () - ^ Same here.
tl;dr I didn't like how you handled rhythm in the beginning, maybe it's thanks to timing but from my point of view atm it should be more slider mapping.
I'll continue on this diff after you or host will deal with hitsounds cus atm it's like just listening metronome and hard to proceed with rhythm and other stuff. I guess they were copied from insane, so you'll just need to wait a bit. :3

[Insane]

Ну собственно я сюда и пришел из-за инса, в принципе мне практически все нравится, только надо отметить все ту же фигню в начале с таймингом\плейсентом нот.
И хитсаунды. Если решишься сделать их более дружелюбными зови меня я доделаю мод на хар и сделаю на инс. И там дальше посмотрим, что будет. Можешь ингейм написать если хочешь.

~~Will continue after host reply….~~ did irc mod

Last edited by Sieg 2014-12-05T14:53:43+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Kazuya

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Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2014-12-04T04:47:37+00:00

00:21:239 (1,2) - Make 1 slider from them, cus strong part of lyrics landing is not really accurate on 00:21:933 (2) - so this will lead to misshits. http://puu.sh/dfd5k/0edc5d17fe.jpg
Ok, but i think 1/1 repeating slider is better than long slider.

00:23:320 (4) - Guitar sounds jitters here, this is doesn't need additional timing point cus this is just for the very on note but you should avoid mapping that beat as a circle. Better solution will be cover this note with slider body or skip.
I think nothing wrong with it. This circle is good.

01:37:184 (1) - 2 bets to recovery after spinner for normal.
01:48:281 (1) -
Spinners removed, because totally unnecessary and not fit here.

02:10:475 (1) - Circles removed: 02:12:209 (1,2,3) -

01:39:785 (2) - This beat in music is so weak, also incoming lyrics ruin this more. Think about replacing this, there are plenty of variants.
01:44:293 (3) - ^Same

ok

Thanks

Normal

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420,256,145040,2,0,L|412:156,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
397,37,145733,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,108,146080,2,0,P|252:124|200:116,1,99.9999999999999,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,28,146774,6,0,P|84:108|124:208,1,200,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,268,147814,2,0,P|272:284|344:280,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
414,208,148508,1,0,0:0:0:0:
326,126,148854,2,0,P|276:126|228:142,1,99.9999999999999,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,202,149548,6,0,P|40:160|56:68,1,200,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
171,35,150588,2,0,P|230:54|287:51,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,24,151282,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,96,151629,1,8,0:0:0:0:
388,172,151975,1,0,0:0:0:0:
484,244,152322,6,0,P|432:344|356:336,1,200,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,273,153363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
154,336,153709,1,8,0:0:0:0:
68,252,154056,2,0,P|44:208|36:148,1,99.9999999999999,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,168,154750,2,0,P|157:117|180:61,1,99.9999999999999,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,140,155443,6,0,P|320:164|376:148,1,99.9999999999999,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,105,155963,2,0,B|412:177|412:177|392:269,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,360,156830,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,278,157177,1,8,0:0:0:0:
144,320,157524,2,0,P|96:328|40:308,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
102,205,158218,6,0,L|110:89,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
128,48,158738,2,0,P|172:28|284:52,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,112,159605,1,0,0:0:0:0:
472,52,159951,1,8,0:0:0:0:
480,172,160298,2,0,P|484:224|464:272,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,336,160992,6,0,P|320:348|256:328,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,300,161512,2,0,B|176:288|176:288|128:304|128:304|60:288,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
20,188,162379,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,92,162726,1,8,0:0:0:0:
200,144,163072,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,72,163419,2,0,P|328:76|360:68,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
398,44,163766,6,0,P|386:92|394:144,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
422,193,164286,2,0,P|443:264|417:335,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
322,261,165153,2,0,P|276:240|214:245,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
136,320,165847,1,0,0:0:0:0:
60,228,166193,2,0,P|62:200|56:172,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
16,135,166540,6,0,P|64:148|113:135,1,99.9999999999999,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,100,167060,2,0,P|232:80|304:100,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
392,180,167927,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,288,168274,1,8,0:0:0:0:
236,228,168621,2,0,P|188:240|128:232,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,172,169314,6,0,P|28:124|52:68,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
96,44,169835,2,0,L|252:52,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
365,57,170702,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,156,171048,1,8,0:0:0:0:
380,264,171395,2,0,P|328:256|280:272,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,332,172089,6,0,L|72:320,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
24,300,172609,2,0,P|0:232|24:160,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,72,173476,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,124,173823,1,8,0:0:0:0:
308,52,174169,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,148,174516,2,0,P|416:156|440:152,1,50,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,123,174863,6,0,P|460:172|464:220,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
510,256,175383,2,0,P|440:232|368:256,1,150,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,324,176250,2,0,L|120:312,2,150,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,177637,12,0,179718,0:0:0:0:

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-12-05T13:25:48+00:00

Sieg wrote:
Привет

[General]
Хотелось бы видеть подробно, что изменилось, не просто сам фиксед.
А откуда тайминг, у меня получилось 83 // 173
Отрежем пару мс от клэпа, а то будут приставать с этим http://puu.sh/dfaFP/fbe9fc0736.wav
БГ обязательно должен быть в png? Если нет каких-либо весомых причин сделай jpg. Еще лучше если ты найдешь 1366х768 версию своего БГ
СБ нет, удали splash1.png splash2.png splash3.png
"kazuya arc alive" в тэги, "Kazuya-sama" из тэгов, убедись нужно ли там "Nozhomi"
всё исправлено.

[Хитсунды]
На всех дифах просто скопировано?... ну так будет даже легче
Избавься от нормал-хитнормал долбежки, как пример я тебе приведу это 00:50:022 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - место что у тебя там как в тире http://puu.sh/dfbxV/2bfe29fd90.mp3 а должно быть как тут http://puu.sh/dfbz7/cd817f17d1.mp3
То есть, посмотри внимательно на такие штуки 00:52:970 (2) // 00:53:316 (4) // 00:53:490 (1) // так-же на начало и концы слайдеров и заменяй нормалхит-нормал на что-нибудь более легкое.
Если тебе интересно, что я нахитсаундил в примере напиши мне ингейм или форум пм, подскажу.
[Easy]
00:21:239 (1,2) - Вот из этого 1 слайдер, объяснение напишу в нормале.
00:47:248 (1,2) - Из этого 1 рипит слайдер, с рипитом 00:47:768 () - вот тут http://puu.sh/dfbU8/971419d648.jpg или слайдер + круг http://puu.sh/dfbTr/96a34ea388.jpg
^ В общем бит 00:47:768 () гораздо сильнее 00:47:941 () и хорошо бы видеть какую-либо игру от него или т.к. это изи накрыть их оба одним слайдером.
Отмечу подобные места:
00:55:570 (1,2) // 00:58:345 (1,2) // 02:07:701 (1,2) // 02:09:088 (2,3) // 02:31:282 (3,1) // 02:43:766 (1,2) // 02:46:540 (1,2) // 02:49:661 (2,3) - <--- тут мне больше нравится ритм на 1\1 с клапами. Менять не буду
01:03:893 (1) 4 бита, для восстановления на изи, как вариант удлинить до 01:06:667 () - а дальше начать с 01:08:055 (1) -
http://puu.sh/dfcIH/7bba92845f.jpg или просто заменить чем-нибудь. Сокращать до 01:05:280 () - нельзя т.к. тогда он будет слишком коротким для изи.
02:24:693 (2,4) - Как-нибудь их загнуть, чтоб они не упирались совсем в края.
Еще хорошо-бы избавится от стаков 01:14:643 (5,2) - и 02:22:266 (2,4) -
Остальное всё исправлено.

[Kazuya's Normal]
00:21:239 (1,2) - Make 1 slider from them, cus strong part of lyrics landing is not really accurate on 00:21:933 (2) - so this will lead to misshits. http://puu.sh/dfd5k/0edc5d17fe.jpg
00:23:320 (4) - Guitar sounds jitters here, this is doesn't need additional timing point cus this is just for the very on note but you should avoid mapping that beat as a circle. Better solution will be cover this note with slider body or skip.
01:37:184 (1) - 2 bets to recovery after spinner for normal.
^ Also applies to:
01:48:281 (1) // 02:10:475 (1)
01:39:785 (2) - This beat in music is so weak, also incoming lyrics ruin this more. Think about replacing this, there are plenty of variants.
01:44:293 (3) - ^Same
[Wafu's Hard]
00:22:800 (2,3,4) - Background rhythm for this is so weak so I suggest you to go a bit easy on this for example: http://puu.sh/dfeFw/413d1ba5f4.jpg
Also read my comment in normal for 00:23:320 () about notes in that part
00:25:747 () - why most stronger instrument in background - lyrics is skipped here? W
00:28:522 () - ^ Same here.
tl;dr I didn't like how you handled rhythm in the beginning, maybe it's thanks to timing but from my point of view atm it should be more slider mapping.
I'll continue on this diff after you or host will deal with hitsounds cus atm it's like just listening metronome and hard to proceed with rhythm and other stuff. I guess they were copied from insane, so you'll just need to wait a bit. :3
^ All changed

[Insane]
Ну собственно я сюда и пришел из-за инса, в принципе мне практически все нравится, только надо отметить все ту же фигню в начале с таймингом\плейсентом нот.
И хитсаунды. Если решишься сделать их более дружелюбными зови меня я доделаю мод на хар и сделаю на инс. И там дальше посмотрим, что будет. Можешь ингейм написать если хочешь.
~~Will continue after host reply….~~

Sieg

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Joined February 2012

Sieg 2014-12-11T15:05:30+00:00

речек, нокд

убери леттер боксы
рипит на желтом еле видно, сделай его темнее

Изи:
00:23:666 (2) - поехал после тайминга
00:54:187 (3,5) - убери эти одинокие свистки, они не нужны
02:45:169 (4) - ^
01:17:077 (4) - тут по идее должен быть финиш как на 01:14:996 (1,2,3) -
02:10:834 () - вот и следующая зелленая вроде ни к чему, да и проверь их все еще раз сама

Нормал:
02:06:846 (4) - должен кончаться на 02:07:366 () -

Хард:
00:43:175 (1) - софт сампл сет и финиш сюда
нормал свистки расставлены плохо или убери или как-нибудь более по музыке
и хсы в киаях

Инс:
свистки и хсы в киаях о которых мы уже говорили

Еще будет оч круто если после этого поста появится хотя-бы 1 хороший модер. Ну и колл ми бек на выходных.

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-12-11T15:16:18+00:00

Sieg wrote:
речек, нокд

убери леттер боксы
рипит на желтом еле видно, сделай его темнее

Изи:
00:23:666 (2) - поехал после тайминга
00:54:187 (3,5) - убери эти одинокие свистки, они не нужны
02:45:169 (4) - ^
01:17:077 (4) - тут по идее должен быть финиш как на 01:14:996 (1,2,3) - <--- Тут ни на одной дифе нет финиша :3
02:10:834 () - вот и следующая зелленая вроде ни к чему, да и проверь их все еще раз сама

Остальное done

Нормал:
02:06:846 (4) - должен кончаться на 02:07:366 () -

Хард:
00:43:175 (1) - софт сампл сет и финиш сюда
нормал свистки расставлены плохо или убери или как-нибудь более по музыке
и хсы в киаях

Инс:
свистки и хсы в киаях о которых мы уже говорили

Еще будет оч круто если после этого поста появится хотя-бы 1 хороший модер. Ну и колл ми бек на выходных.

Хс оставила. По карте исправила.
Sieg make me cry....

Avena

2,158 posts

Joined December 2012

Avena 2014-12-12T07:31:03+00:00

IRC Modded~

SPOILER

09:06 Katty Pie: go
09:06 *Priti is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/484661 Mind Vortex - Alive [Insane]]
09:06 Priti: 1 sec
09:07 Priti: actually
09:07 Priti: spec
09:10 Priti: mod time :3
09:10 Katty Pie: go
09:10 Priti: 00:46:903 (6,1) - This looks a bit, iffy ><"
09:11 Priti: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2335715 this looks a bit nicer imo
09:11 Priti: 00:42:395 (1) - Maybe shorten this and add a circle? for the impact shiz.
09:12 Katty Pie: ^ don't think so
09:12 Katty Pie: 46:903 - done
09:12 Priti: 01:39:793 (2) - 01:45:516 (5) - The finish honestly doesn't fit here, replace it with a whistle?
09:13 Katty Pie: done
09:14 Priti: 02:16:036 (1,2,3,4) - I personally dislike this type of patterns, they just don't feel so fun to play for me, Maybe do ctrl+g to 2 and 4 so the movement is a bit cooler?
09:15 Katty Pie: hm good Idea
09:15 Katty Pie: done
09:15 Priti: 02:52:452 (2) - ctrl+g?
09:15 Katty Pie: hm no here
09:15 Katty Pie: then will litle spacing between 2 and 3
09:15 Priti: true
09:16 *Priti is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/488004 Mind Vortex - Alive [Easy]]
09:16 Katty Pie: wait
09:16 Katty Pie: what you think about hitsounds
09:16 Priti: it's nice
09:16 Katty Pie: on kiai times?
09:16 Priti: but the clap sample
09:16 Priti: is a bit quiet compared to the hitnormals
09:16 Priti: so it's barely noticed
09:16 Priti: I got a sample for you, I'll give it to ye after I'm done with easy
09:16 Katty Pie: ok ty~ change it a bit later
09:17 Katty Pie: ty ^^
09:17 Priti: 00:26:441 (2) - Maybe move the last point a bit higher so the symmetry is perfected?
09:17 Katty Pie: done
09:17 Priti: 01:03:204 (4) - maybe move this lower for better flow?
09:18 Priti: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2335721
09:18 Katty Pie: done
09:19 Priti: 01:19:504 (4,5,1,2) - this pattern is really confusing to read but I don't have an idea for a fix
09:19 Priti: btw, tip for your next maps
09:19 Priti: use x1.0 spacing on Easies
09:19 Priti: so you can make really neat patterns
09:19 Priti: 01:39:273 (1,1) - same as Insane, finishes should be whistles
09:20 Priti: 02:10:487 (1) - Symmetry pls o3o
09:21 Katty Pie: ok
09:21 Priti: 02:50:718 (4,1) - This is an unrankable thing, If the hitburst covers the repeat arrow, the pattern is counted as unrankable
09:21 Priti: consider moving the circle somewhere else
09:22 Katty Pie: done
09:22 Priti: http://puu.sh/drl5u.rar new sample
09:22 Priti: try it :3
09:24 Priti: anywhos, posting log now~
09:24 Katty Pie: wait
09:24 Katty Pie: hard
09:24 Katty Pie: normal?
09:24 Priti: they are GDs
09:24 Priti: ._.
09:25 Katty Pie: go hard
09:25 Priti: oh
09:25 Katty Pie: I checked all mods for hard
09:25 Priti: oh btw
09:25 Priti: please use OD8 on Insane
09:26 Katty Pie: ok
09:26 Priti: 00:47:250 (1,3) - imperfect stack
09:26 Priti: dude literally all stacks on hard are off
09:26 Priti: lol
09:27 Priti: 01:40:487 (3) - 01:45:516 (5) - again, whistles pls
09:27 Katty Pie: done
09:27 Priti: go over the diff
09:27 Priti: there are tons of stacks that are off
09:28 Priti: 02:12:915 (2,3,1) - this jump is idiotic, please lower the spacing ><"
09:28 Priti: the gap between Normal and Hard is massive
09:29 Katty Pie: done
09:29 Priti: while the gap between Easy and Normal is tiny
09:29 Priti: have Kazuya buff the Normal a bit
09:29 Priti: like, add a tiny bit of 1/2 on intense parts
09:29 Priti: Hard has massive 1/2 jumps while Normal barely has any 1/2
09:30 Katty Pie: hm ok
09:30 Priti: 01:09:447 (1,2,3,4) - same ctrl+g suggestion lol (Insane)

Kazuya

894 posts

Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2014-12-12T08:53:17+00:00

Heyho \o as requested!

It's only ideas! Sorry, my english is very bad. :'(

[Insane]

00:29:736 - Put circle here, because there is vocal!
00:31:296 (1) - Remove repeat, and move slider here: 00:31:643 - , and put circles here: 00:31:296 - 00:31:470 - Timeline example: http://puu.sh/drpsz/656145a56c.png Why? The vocals are more vivid here: 00:31:643 -

01:16:036 (4) - Delete this slider, Move 01:16:036 (1) - slider here: 01:16:036 - , and move 01:16:903 (2) - slider here: 01:16:730 - Timeline: http://puu.sh/drpEF/73b7ad9645.jpg It's highlights the vocals.

02:22:973 (1,2) - Same as above ^: Delete circles: 02:22:626 (7,8) - , and move 02:22:973 (1) - slider here: 02:22:626 - , and move 02:23:493 (2) - slider here: 02:23:319 - Timeline: http://puu.sh/drpUr/8dd3993841.png

It's ok!

[Hard]

02:22:626 (3,1,2) - Same as Insane! (01:16:036 (4) -) 02:22:626 (3) - Delete slider ,and move 02:22:973 (1) - Slider here: 02:22:626 - and 02:23:493 (2) - slider here: 02:23:319 - Please highlight the vocals.

[Easy]

00:30:603 (1) - Blanket. :3 Move 2nd (center) white tick here: x: 452 y: 238, and last white tick (3rd, slider end) here: x: 424 y: 104
02:26:094 (4) - Missing clap from the slider end!
02:28:869 (5) - Remove soft smple from slider head. Change Sampleset to "Auto". http://puu.sh/drqBp/84db873d69.png
02:33:724 (4) - Missing clap. :3

GL. :3

Poggo

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Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-12-12T08:59:15+00:00

Thank you somer fixed :3

Wafu

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Joined June 2011

Wafu 2014-12-13T11:15:02+00:00

Oh, before we can move forward, please, update my diff: http://puu.sh/dsMih/175f286c50.rar
I quite forgot I have to fix mods on this map, anyway, Katty Pie did some changes, which were okay, but some did not match my style, so I just corrected it a bit, no drastic changes, so it will not even need a recheck. My apologizes, please update it Katty :3

Poggo

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Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-12-13T14:45:57+00:00

Updated :3

Garven

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Garven 2014-12-20T23:45:26+00:00

[Easy]
02:34:071 (5,6) - You missed a couple, Kat!

[Hard]
02:53:493 - Forget your claps in this section?

Poggo

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Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-12-21T17:57:00+00:00

Garven wrote:
[Easy]
02:34:071 (5,6) - You missed a couple, Kat!

[Hard]
02:53:493 - Forget your claps in this section?

hi~ all done~ ty :3

phaZ

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Joined October 2011

phaZ 2014-12-21T18:16:56+00:00

[Wafu's Hard]
i understand that the difficulty is a bit higher than usually hards are but then please increase the ar, too. those high jumps and 173 bpm (which isnt that slow, imo)~
pls :/

Garven

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Garven 2014-12-21T19:33:18+00:00

AR 7 is perfectly fine for the Hard difficulty. There aren't overlapping patterns, so there isn't a need for a high AR.

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2014-12-21T19:34:28+00:00

:3 so close

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2014-12-22T00:24:03+00:00

Garven wrote:
AR 7 is perfectly fine for the Hard difficulty. There aren't overlapping patterns, so there isn't a need for a high AR.

playing an Insane with EZ (for example this insane) isnt hard to read because of overlaps, but just because the approachrate is so low. it gets harder to feel to which beat in the music you have to hit which object. you cant associate the objects with the musics beats
it feels the same for me here~

pregnant_man

2,494 posts

Joined August 2012

pregnant_man 2014-12-22T02:56:23+00:00

Unfortunately i have to pop it because of quality issues. It really needs a bunch of additional modding before moving it further
For example :
[Insane]
01:26:094 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - No-no it's fully overmapped
01:27:481 (1) - Same here, moreover, 01:28:175 (2) - since you are keeping this strong beat unclickable, player will get a problems with catching jumps which arrives after repeat
01:39:273 (1,2) - It's off for both for vocals and melody. For vocals it should be mapped like this 1; 2
01:43:435 (1,2,3,4) - same thing

SPOILER

02:12:568 (1) - even if you trying to keep consistency it is no worth in overmapping this moment, that repeat should be ended here 02:13:088 - . Apart of this, i really think that all 1/8 stuff chould be discussed better, because it looks just unfitting (for example, Kite suggested to change samplesets for 1/8 stuff to soft and adding 20% to the volume, but i'd still stick to remapping these parts, tbh)

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2014-12-22T17:41:03+00:00

will mod in some hours, got angry when my mod was deleted after accidantly refreshing the page~

Kurai

osu! Alumni

7,734 posts

Joined March 2009

Kurai 2014-12-23T02:07:26+00:00

Just giving a quick look at the map, and I basically agree with Elvis's mod. Here are some little 3 a.m. suggestions

[Insane]

01:04:938 (3,4,5) - A triple is not such a bad idea, but it would play so much more better if you moved 01:05:025 (4) to 01:05:198
01:44:649 (4) - You could redo this slider, the shape and the blanket aren't that good compared to the rest of the map.
02:10:487 (1,1,1,1) - Imo, in order to really emphasize the music and not to make such a not-so-challenging pattern here,I'd keep doing 1/2 notes until 02:11:874 and start the 1/8 sliders here.
02:53:493 (1,1,1,1) - Here again, I would not use 1/8 sliders, they are not really challenging and don't fit that well which is quite sad.
00:38:926 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
You could seriously make something much more creative for those parts! Just like you did with 01:02:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1) for example.

[Hard]

02:07:539 - A circle would fit so nicely here *w*

Good luck getting this ranked!

phaZ

739 posts

Joined October 2011

phaZ 2014-12-23T15:46:37+00:00

[Kazuya's Normal]
01:51:065 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - why doesnt the difficulty of the patterns grow with the tension in the music? would be really nice if you first play all the repeat-slider and then the harder slider-circle-pattern

some imgaes to explain

just an idea how you can move those sliders without deleting/creating new ones

first stage pattern (repeat)

second stage pattern (repeat/slider-circle alternating)

third stage pattern (slider-circle)

[Wafu's Hard]
as mentioned already, you may increaase the ar by at least 0.6~ it also looks weird when you have fast sliders with such a low ar (and you dont expect that slidervelocity as well which could lead into stupid combobreak)
01:15:689 (3,1) - i really miss a jump here~ you should follow the music/finishes and not just stubbornly put a jump every 8 beats..
01:23:840 (2,3,1,3) - ^ put the stack on the slider before then, maybe
02:22:973 (1) - ^
02:31:296 (1,3,1) - ^
01:49:678 (1) - soft-whislte?
01:51:585 to 02:11:701 - a bit weird that the sv gets less although the tension rises, i would prefrer it the other way around. its okay though but you may take it in consideration
[Insane]
00:45:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ctrl+h (1,2,3,4), swap (5,6) and ctrl+g (1)
00:50:892 (4,5) - ctrl+g
00:51:239 (6,1) - nazi stack :O
00:52:799 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl+g (1,2) and ctrl+g (3,4).it plays more like a sic-zac if you just look at the cursor movement of 00:52:452 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1)
02:31:296 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:08:926 (4,6) - ctrl+g
01:20:545 (1,2) - ctrl+g (1) and ctrl+g (2)
01:44:649 (4) - can you improve the blanket? all your other slider are so perfect shaped, he looks ugly that way~
02:14:649 (1,2) - ctrl+h?
02:15:689 (5,2) - nazi stack

02:38:753 (2,3,4,5,6) - would like this http://puu.sh/dFct7/15ed5a8297.jpg
02:39:620 (1,2) - ^ctrl+g (1) ctrl+g (2) then if you apply above
02:40:487 (3,4,5,1,1,2) - ctrl+h
02:40:661 (4,5,1) - this angle plays weird, making it hard to catch (1). if you can move (1) a little bit higher like this http://puu.sh/dFcOS/6c4aed6f91.jpg it would be better to play
02:41:528 (2,5) - you can stack them ofc id you apply the upper changes
02:43:088 (3,4,5,6) - ctrl+h

Kazuya

894 posts

Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2014-12-24T02:47:06+00:00

I go to sleep. I check after waking up. There are currently no energy.

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-12-27T09:23:31+00:00

EvilElvis wrote:
Unfortunately i have to pop it because of quality issues. It really needs a bunch of additional modding before moving it further
For example :
[Insane]
01:26:094 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - No-no it's fully overmapped
01:27:481 (1) - Same here, moreover, 01:28:175 (2) - since you are keeping this strong beat unclickable, player will get a problems with catching jumps which arrives after repeat
01:39:273 (1,2) - It's off for both for vocals and melody. For vocals it should be mapped like this 1; 2 <---done
01:43:435 (1,2,3,4) - same thing <---done
SPOILER

02:12:568 (1) - even if you trying to keep consistency it is no worth in overmapping this moment, that repeat should be ended here 02:13:088 - . <---done
Apart of this, i really think that all 1/8 stuff chould be discussed better, because it looks just unfitting (for example, Kite suggested to change samplesets for 1/8 stuff to soft and adding 20% to the volume, but i'd still stick to remapping these parts, tbh) <---I just make it low

Thx

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-12-27T09:32:43+00:00

Kurai wrote:
Just giving a quick look at the map, and I basically agree with Elvis's mod. Here are some little 3 a.m. suggestions

[Insane]
01:04:938 (3,4,5) - A triple is not such a bad idea, but it would play so much more better if you moved 01:05:025 (4) to 01:05:198 <---done
01:44:649 (4) - You could redo this slider, the shape and the blanket aren't that good compared to the rest of the map. <---done
02:10:487 (1,1,1,1) - Imo, in order to really emphasize the music and not to make such a not-so-challenging pattern here,I'd keep doing 1/2 notes until 02:11:874 and start the 1/8 sliders here.
02:53:493 (1,1,1,1) - Here again, I would not use 1/8 sliders, they are not really challenging and don't fit that well which is quite sad.
00:38:926 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - ^
You could seriously make something much more creative for those parts! Just like you did with 01:02:510 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1) for example.
[Hard]
02:07:539 - A circle would fit so nicely here *w* <---done
Good luck getting this ranked!

thx~

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-12-27T09:38:43+00:00

phaZ wrote:
[Insane]
00:45:863 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - ctrl+h (1,2,3,4), swap (5,6) and ctrl+g (1)
00:50:892 (4,5) - ctrl+g
00:51:239 (6,1) - nazi stack :O <---- Done
00:52:799 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl+g (1,2) and ctrl+g (3,4).it plays more like a sic-zac if you just look at the cursor movement of 00:52:452 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1)
02:31:296 (1,2,3,4) - ^
01:08:926 (4,6) - ctrl+g
01:20:545 (1,2) - ctrl+g (1) and ctrl+g (2)
01:44:649 (4) - can you improve the blanket? all your other slider are so perfect shaped, he looks ugly that way~ <---- Done
02:14:649 (1,2) - ctrl+h?
02:15:689 (5,2) - nazi stack <---- Done
02:38:753 (2,3,4,5,6) - would like this http://puu.sh/dFct7/15ed5a8297.jpg
02:39:620 (1,2) - ^ctrl+g (1) ctrl+g (2) then if you apply above
02:40:487 (3,4,5,1,1,2) - ctrl+h
02:40:661 (4,5,1) - this angle plays weird, making it hard to catch (1). if you can move (1) a little bit higher like this http://puu.sh/dFcOS/6c4aed6f91.jpg it would be better to play
02:41:528 (2,5) - you can stack them ofc id you apply the upper changes
02:43:088 (3,4,5,6) - ctrl+h

Thx

Kazuya

894 posts

Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2014-12-27T11:34:44+00:00

phaZ:

Okay, i use similar. Thanks

Code

osu file format v13

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 155458
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.7

[Metadata]
Title:Alive
TitleUnicode:Alive
Artist:Mind Vortex
ArtistUnicode:Mind Vortex
Creator:Katty Pie
Version:Kazuya's Normal
Source:
Tags:kazuya arc alive wafu dnb drum and bass
BeatmapID:487413
BeatmapSetID:205309

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CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
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256,273,153377,1,0,0:0:0:0:
154,336,153724,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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156,168,154765,2,0,P|157:117|180:61,1,99.9999999999999,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,140,155458,6,0,P|320:164|376:148,1,99.9999999999999,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,105,155978,2,0,B|412:177|412:177|392:269,1,150,0|8,2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
344,360,156846,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,278,157192,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2014-12-27T12:09:45+00:00

Sorry, I cannot agree with anything mentioned by phaZ.

_index

336 posts

Joined January 2011

_index 2014-12-28T08:17:20+00:00

Чот все никак не мог найти времени запотеть ее, неужели. Абсолютно все джампы фкабельны с дт, хотя стримы конечно потные прям. За треугольнички зачет.

Brace urself, 450пипок стоить будет я думаю.
остальное не смотрел, давай ранкай быстрее

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2014-12-28T10:39:15+00:00

Привет. Спасибо) Постараюсь

Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2014-12-31T16:31:20+00:00

Hi! Here as a kind gesture to Wafu for his quality improvement queue. Hope it helps!

[General]
The difficulty jump from Hard to Insane feels a little high. Are you sure you don't need an intermediate Insane?

[Easy]

01:07:366 (2) – the slider end claps sound a little too quiet. Try 65% for all these sections. Same suggestion for Insane

01:22:279 (5) - this feels a little odd, try something like this http://puu.sh/dTAvR/2ee4e1c0ff.jpg

01:23:319 (1,4) – overlap is not ideal
02:13:955 (2,5) - ^

02:04:938 (1) – could blanket 02:04:591 (4) - better
02:45:169 (4,5,1) – Going into 1 has some awkward flow imo, but changing things seems to mess something else up. Try moving 4 and 5 to 109, 122 and 36, 196 respectively. I think the song lends itself to a change in flow the best at 4.
http://puu.sh/dOi4T/fbe2de8a60.jpg

[Normal]

00:27:135 (5,1) – I think 5 should flow into 1 better, i.e. put 5 on the tangent line of 1's head by changing 1's curvature.
01:17:077 (4,1) - ^

01:11:874 (1) – So the anchor on this feels odd. I get that you're going for a blanket and then going for linear flow, but an anchor isn't necessary for that and instead looks like it's out of place, imo.

01:56:614 (1) – The music has a subtle change here, how about doing Ctrl + J on this and keeping in same spot to reflect this?

[Hard]

00:24:707 (3,1) – For the life of me I could not read/agree with this rhythm/jump (and others in this part of the song). This part of the song felt like it has low energy and I feel making 00:24:707 (3) - a long slider to go with the melody fits better here than going with the background music that is really hard to hear. I think here 00:33:377 (1) – is where the background beat start to takes hold, and I think slowing down earlier sections would provide a good build up to it, but that's just me.

01:08:059 (1,2) – improve blanket
01:10:487 (4,1) - ^
01:12:221 (1,2) - ^
01:21:585 (4,1) - ^
01:27:481 (1,3) - ^
02:09:620 (2,3) - ^
02:35:111 (5) – -1 to x for better blanket
02:41:007 (1,2) – improve blanket

02:45:169 (1) – Consider taking this off the stack?

02:54:880 (1) – Try making this counterclockwise flow to contrast the mostly clockwise flow before it.

[Insane]

Really good map, I love it!

01:03:898 (1) – I feel like this doesn't flow from 01:03:724 (8) – well. I know it breaks the triangles, but I think this flow improvement is more important
http://puu.sh/dO8tj/e67e0f6cae.jpg

01:39:793 (2) – The prev distance is too much imo, try 256, 344

01:40:140 (3) – Not perfect symmetry, try this (code if you want it): http://puu.sh/dO8Rh/2f2e0b8404.jpg

190,156,100140,2,0,B|256:192|256:192|322:156,2,150.000005722046,0|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

02:04:071 (5,6) – Even not having listened to it before, I didn't think 6 was a beat in the song. I liked not overmapping here and preferred 6 be deleted, but I have a feeling I will be overruled which isn't that big a deal. (also 02:05:458 (2) - and 02:06:846 (6) - )

02:09:100 (1) – I would see if you can make this combo have clockwise flow isntead. I think as is it doesn't distinguish itself hard enough as a higher energy combo than the previous one. So something like doing Ctrl + G on all of 02:09:100 (1,2,3,4) -

02:10:487 (1,1,1,1) – Ideally these would have an energy increase to match the energy increase in the song but I can't think of a way to do that without making it worse

02:37:539 (3) – with the change in rhythm/energy, I think you should change the flow too and break the repetitive pattern since song breaks the repetitive beat. For example I liked a linear slider like this, but of course there are many other things: http://puu.sh/dTBzn/c45540919d.jpg

02:47:250 (3) – I think this is a dumb suggestion since my change looks bad, I just don't like stacks like this, so how about moving this up to 256, 122 ?
http://puu.sh/dOdcL/d447e6c46d.jpg

02:53:493 (1,1,1,1) – I think this is too weak of a way to end the map with, but again, I don't have an alternative for this rhythm.

Overall really well done beatmapset, can't wait to see this ranked!

Poggo

1,502 posts

Joined January 2012

Topic Starter

Poggo 2015-01-02T04:53:08+00:00

Thank you for mod :3 fixed almost all~

Kazuya

894 posts

Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2015-01-02T18:12:23+00:00

Didn't change, keep all of them.

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2015-01-03T09:05:25+00:00

oh my i'm so late. Katty requested to me when 23rd December and finally i have time to see this map and it was bubbled

Easy

how about HP OD 2,5 instead? it feels more balance imo
00:29:215 (2) - hmm imo this slider a little bit too curvy and make the flow becomes changed suddenly, how about smoother this slider maybe as http://puu.sh/e0nWN.jpg
00:30:603 (1,2) - blanket please http://puu.sh/e0o8F.jpg
00:31:990 (2) - if you add whistle on previous slider's tails to emphasize the vocal, i would suggest to add whistle for this slider too
00:54:880 (5) - nazi, the slider a little bit close with next slider here, try 1 grid right /runs
00:57:655 - 00:46:556 - those musics on the pitch and feel quite loud here. actually i feel empty when skip to map these times
01:01:123 (1,2) - checked whole diff and only has 1/1 gap here, imo you can make variation with change these objects become 3/2 slider repeat instead which 01:01:643 - has instrument here
01:15:689 (2,3) - hmm i dont understand why need finish here? their music only weak sound here which use clap and whistle enough
01:22:279 (5) - i prefer to use normal custom instead of soft here when the kick drum at slider's head is same with 01:21:585 -
01:24:013 (2,3,5) - literally same as 01:15:689 (2,3) -
01:25:400 (5) - anyway you can give more natural flow if you ctrl+G this slider imo
01:28:869 - i hear a cymbal sound here, try add finish with 40% volume? it will emphasize nicely imo
01:43:435 (1) - im quite confuse with this rhythm, the head is following vocal but the repeat is following piano here, i would say to shorten the slider to 01:44:302 - and add circle at 01:45:516 - , they feel better imo
01:51:065 (1) - finish at head coz the cymbal sound here, if you feel 60% finish is loud so use 50% instead
02:04:938 (1) - maybe just my taste but i feel 2nd node (before red node) is too curvy here. try make it smoother?
02:20:198 (3) - i know this one because the blanket but imo flow feels quite unnatural here, i would like to move it around 184,228 for more natural flow. just my two cents though
02:22:279 (2,3) - same as 01:15:689 (2,3) -
02:33:377 (3) - prefer use normal hitnormal instead here coz i dont hear any kick drum at this time
02:44:822 (3) - try move 164,176 and then 02:45:169 (4) - 72,128 to make more natural flow

Normal

00:33:030 (1) - hmm i dont think if this rhythm fits with the song since actually i hear cymbal sounds at 00:33:377 - a circle and then 1/1 slider would be more fit imo
00:35:805 (5) - 00:38:580 (2) - hmm actually i dont agree to skip stanza's musics here since they have enough hard music to be mapped
01:09:100 (1) - same as above
00:53:319 (2) - just 3/2 slider and it repeatly many times in this part make a little bit boring for me, i would like to shorten the slider at 00:53:666 - and add circle at 00:53:840 - , if you agree, do for some sliders from this part
01:17:424 (1) - stanza should be mapped here coz the cymbal music sounds at 01:17:770 - instead of 01:17:424 -
01:28:175 (5) - if you like to emphasize vocal here, move this slider to 01:28:002 - and add circle at 01:28:522 -
01:41:181 - add note here? this music still a piano sound which you followed before
01:45:343 - add note here to follow the trumpet instrument, i think 1/2 circle wont be hard too for Normal diff
01:51:065 (1) - finish at head, crash cymbal appear
02:24:013 (1) - literally same as 01:17:424 (1) -
literally all i've mention should be fixed for whole diff if you follow it, i just lazy to mention again

Hard

00:22:799 (2) - hmm still confuse with this slider since the head is following music but the tail is following vocal here, i would say shorten this slider at 00:23:146 - to emphasize the music and then add circle at 00:23:319 - for the vocal
00:25:574 (2) - 00:28:348 (2) - same as above
00:42:741 (6) - remove the repeat and add circle at 00:43:088 - around 160,64 please. it feels so weird when cymbal mapped with slider's tail which doesnt need to click anything to caught it
00:44:996 (2,3) - is the slider intentional? if see from blanket, it is really off, dunno intentional or not
01:26:094 - why the volume is so small here? i would like to use 60% here since i feel a little bit hard to hear the hitsound
01:44:649 (3) - probably add whistle on head to emphasize vocal would be nice here
02:02:163 (1) - finish please coz the crash cymbal :C
literally i like this diff but the jumps look more like Insane here

Insane

hmm i feel flow and design are well made, just please make other easier Insane here coz this diff has fast SV + huge jumps which make me worrying with the spread. maybe just for me but it's really make me worries too much

Good Luck ~

Wafu

1,703 posts

Joined June 2011

Wafu 2015-01-03T15:25:56+00:00

Xinely wrote:

Hard
00:22:799 (2) - hmm still confuse with this slider since the head is following music but the tail is following vocal here, i would say shorten this slider at 00:23:146 - to emphasize the music and then add circle at 00:23:319 - for the vocal
00:25:574 (2) - 00:28:348 (2) - same as above
00:42:741 (6) - remove the repeat and add circle at 00:43:088 - around 160,64 please. it feels so weird when cymbal mapped with slider's tail which doesnt need to click anything to caught it
00:44:996 (2,3) - is the slider intentional? if see from blanket, it is really off, dunno intentional or not It was meant to be just in center of the slider, not so the slider would be extremely near the slider. That still should be considered as a fine blanket. I do not even know why do people say "It is not blanket!" on every of these, but nevermind
01:26:094 - why the volume is so small here? i would like to use 60% here since i feel a little bit hard to hear the hitsound
01:44:649 (3) - probably add whistle on head to emphasize vocal would be nice here
02:02:163 (1) - finish please coz the crash cymbal :C I want to be consistent with Insane diff, if it will be on Katty's diff, I will change, if not, sorry.
literally i like this diff but the jumps look more like Insane here

Thanks for a mod

About the difficulty, it was meant to be harder than regular hard because Katty's insane is actually harder than regular insane, so the gap would be even bigger if I made it like a hard.

Kazuya

894 posts

Joined May 2013

Kazuya 2015-01-03T15:31:33+00:00

00:33:030 (1) - hmm i dont think if this rhythm fits with the song since actually i hear cymbal sounds at 00:33:377 - a circle and then 1/1 slider would be more fit imo

I skipping all similar suggestion. I follow the vocal. This song is 170+ BPM. 1/2 circles, or many 1/2 objects too hard. Unfortunately the most of normal difficulty is too hard. I'm not going to use more 1/2. It's quite good normal. No more, no less. Too boring? Go to Hard.

00:53:319 (2) - just 3/2 slider and it repeatly many times in this part make a little bit boring for me, i would like to shorten the slider at 00:53:666 - and add circle at 00:53:840 - , if you agree, do for some sliders from this part

Same as above. Little hard.

01:28:175 (5) - if you like to emphasize vocal here, move this slider to 01:28:002 - and add circle at 01:28:522 -

Fixed, i use similar.

01:41:181 - add note here? this music still a piano sound which you followed before

This sound is too low. No.

01:45:343 - add note here to follow the trumpet instrument, i think 1/2 circle wont be hard too for Normal diff

I changed otherwise.

01:51:065 (1) - finish at head, crash cymbal appear

Ok

02:24:013 (1) - literally same as 01:17:424 (1) -

Same than at the top.

Thanks.

Diff

osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: Mind Vortex - Alive.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 155458
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.7

[Metadata]
Title:Alive
TitleUnicode:Alive
Artist:Mind Vortex
ArtistUnicode:Mind Vortex
Creator:Katty Pie
Version:Kazuya's Normal
Source:
Tags:kazuya arc alive wafu dnb drum and bass kazuya-sama
BeatmapID:487413
BeatmapSetID:205309

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:0.999999999999999
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"www.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
2,89069,97900
2,105715,109865
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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44476,-100,4,1,0,70,0,0
66672,-100,4,1,1,60,0,1
88869,-100,4,1,1,70,0,0
99100,-100,4,2,0,70,0,0
133262,-100,4,1,1,60,0,1
155458,-100,4,1,0,70,0,0
176267,-100,4,2,0,70,0,0


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Combo2 : 80,241,225
Combo3 : 255,255,0
Combo4 : 139,87,249
Combo5 : 216,61,154
Combo6 : 255,96,72

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180,332,172106,6,0,L|72:320,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
24,300,172626,2,0,P|0:232|24:160,1,150,0|8,2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
104,72,173493,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,124,173840,1,8,0:0:0:0:
308,52,174187,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,148,174533,2,0,P|416:156|440:152,1,50,8|0,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
480,123,174880,6,0,P|460:172|464:220,1,99.9999999999999,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
510,256,175400,2,0,P|440:232|368:256,1,150,0|8,2:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,176267,12,4,177655,1:0:0:0:

Poggo

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Poggo 2015-01-06T08:34:32+00:00

Thanks My Dear Xinely :3 Fixed almost all on Easy~

J1NX1337

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J1NX1337 2015-01-06T10:40:51+00:00

Alright, since I love DnB and Mind Vortex and all their songs, I thought I'd give my opinion on your Insane.

00:38:926 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - I think there's too many reverse sliders here. I think you could remove all of them except the last two, since these din't really fit with the build-up in my opinion, it just kind of kills it since these are way too easy to do. Just replace the removed reverse sliders with half beats.

02:10:487 (1,1) - You should replace these two reverse sliders with a stream, but leave the other two reverse sliders, they actually fit pretty well. The stream would be a great build-up.

Also, set your preview point here: 01:05:632

Sounds the best there.

Poggo

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Poggo 2015-01-08T15:44:47+00:00

Nothing to change sorry~

J1NX1337

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J1NX1337 2015-01-09T16:37:03+00:00

Katty Pie wrote:
Nothing to change sorry~

I can see where you're coming from with the reverse sliders, it rhymes to that little increasing noise in the back, but you know what, when people play/listen to this song, they're more likely to hear the quarter beats in the front rather than that little noise in the back, and thus it would make for a more enjoyable gameplay experience. That's why I was initially confused when I faced those reverse sliders, since I expected something to rhyme with the beats in the front.

Also, those very last reverse sliders could be replaced with something else to make up for a more exciting ending. Otherwise it's kinda boring.

So at least give my suggestions a try if you didn't. Also, just change the preview point. The current one sounds stupid when you scroll to it in song select, when you can hear a part of the lyrics "(It wasn't) true~" and when listening to it in song select, the song plays for such a short time and then just repeats the same part over and over again. It would be much preferable to have the preview point at the start of the chorus, since it gives a better idea of the song to the person who hears it for the first time. The current one could be misleading.

Exote

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Exote 2015-01-16T15:34:07+00:00

Hi, that's a pretty good map right there! A lil suggestion, I think that AR 9,2/9,3 fits the Insane more than 9, because some parts can be read easier. Anyway good luck with your map!

Sieg

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Sieg 2015-01-22T06:49:18+00:00

I'm fine with spread, also it seems like map was quite improved
take your bubble back

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DeletedUser_4329079 2015-01-24T19:04:08+00:00

I love that insane!

Kazuya

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Kazuya 2015-01-26T11:13:12+00:00

Go Pie, Go! \o/

Nozhomi

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Nozhomi 2015-01-26T18:36:00+00:00

Still not on the tags ;w; (do we really care about it ?)

Gogogo Katty

Secretpipe

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Secretpipe 2015-01-27T17:05:37+00:00

Add Nozhomi into tags an I'd be able to rebubble this :3

Poggo

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Poggo 2015-01-28T03:40:09+00:00

Secretpipe wrote:
Add Nozhomi into tags an I'd be able to rebubble this :3

Why rebub? not rank?

Secretpipe

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Secretpipe 2015-01-28T06:20:54+00:00

I didn't mo this so I can't rank it blindly ;<

Poggo

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Poggo 2015-01-28T15:27:15+00:00

Tag added~

Secretpipe

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Secretpipe 2015-01-29T18:00:43+00:00

It's sad I haven't time for mod your map but I wish you good luck Katty! ~

Rebubbled~

Also , I think that the background is so boring ! you could find another one ! if you think you can change it , I'll maybe get time for modding it because week end is coming !

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DeletedUser_4329079 2015-01-29T19:07:26+00:00

Just search "vortex" on Google images haha

Flower

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Flower 2015-01-30T14:39:22+00:00

hi

all things are suggestions.

[Insane]
00:44:476 - change to 70, same as final part. other diffs same.
01:28:869 (1) - normal sample? other diffs same. sounds fitter
01:45:343 - add a note to fit the music?
02:08:406 (3,2) - stack better

[Hard]
AR+0.5~0.8? some jumps don't fit ar7 fmpov

[Normal]
01:40:834 - add break

[Easy]
AR+0.5?

come back when you've done all changes. good luck!

Wafu

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Wafu 2015-01-31T09:22:05+00:00

@Katty Pie: Feel free to fix AR for me, I do not mind this change.

Poggo

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Poggo 2015-01-31T15:05:57+00:00

fixed all :3

Flower