Lanturn wrote:

JMQ quick check. no KD please.

Artist / Romanized: otetsu

Title: 抑圧錯乱ガール
Romanized Title: Yokuatsu Sakuran Girl

Tags:
地獄型人間動物園 <-- album it was released on
Jigokugata Ningen Doubutsuen <-- ^
GUMI <-- vocaloid used
Vocaloid
Opression Confusion <-- english translation (not official)

Should get you started for now :3 good luck.

Sources:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23514633
http://jigokugata.com
Unofficial source: Shortened

1. 00:04:461 (1) - ctrl+G肯定更顺吧
2. 00:26:824 (4,5,6) - 歪了，应该跟00:26:278 (1,7,8,9) - 一样
3. 00:29:187 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这可以更好看的，起码等距吧
4. 00:38:550 (2,3) - 哥..这是165bpm..如果是滑条+note可以，但是note+滑条的话就太难了..而且还是遮挡，试试这样 http://puu.sh/grDo4/4fccaf12be.jpg
5. 00:57:367 (4,5) - 试试交换位置？
6. 02:11:908 - 试试加个note弄个跳串？爽巴平
7. 02:13:908 (1,2,3,4) - 根据类似的地方，感觉这个间距稍微小了点，建议拉大，而且有点挤，奔放一点吧
8. 02:25:544 (3) - NC
9. 03:01:179 (3,4,2) - 求fix，强迫症表示压力大
10. 03:10:934 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - 跟右边一样啊... http://puu.sh/grE9N/17eafa776a.jpg 大概这样
11. 03:35:663 (3,1) - 奔放一点，这种overlap还是避免吧
12. 03:42:662 (2,3) - ^

-Eriri- wrote:

您好
[Hard]
00:29:733 (4,5,6) - 建议往右移一点，似乎是堆叠原因导致视觉上ds不一致，不好看好
00:41:550 (2,1) - blanket可以更好一点的样子好
00:45:368 (3,5) - 这个也是，虽然我不像锋哥那么强迫症不过这种确实可以修好看一些（其实为了水膜好
00:50:822 - 和00:53:731 - 这个音怎么不跟不跟啦
02:25:544 - 到02:42:997 - 这段其实我觉得可以把你Insane的搬到Hard里面用。。现在Hard的节奏给我的感觉就是选择最单调的摆法。。有点不好玩
03:08:533 - 转盘拉到这儿结束个人觉得比较好？好

[Insane]
00:12:734 (7) - ds可以离6再远一点吗 比如这样这才刚开始 先近一点吧https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11178979
00:43:732 - 这段不跟人声浑身难受 嘻嘻 我懒
01:04:094 - ^也是，跟上会爽很多
00:54:277 (4) - 感觉可以弄好看一点 像 好https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11179009
02:13:363 (7) - 可NC 好
02:34:270 - 这段我觉得摆Hard里是真的不错，，然后Insane的话可以在现有的节奏在跟上钟的摆动声, 懒 不会
额最后一段kiai升了个调，其实可以摆的更疯一点的把，现在看来就是前面两段kiai是没问题的，第三段可以适当加点难度 好
等等，其实你这个是主难度还是HW的是主难度？

Yugu wrote:

您好
HW的难度看起来摸不出啥就不摸了

general

1. hitsound file "normal-hitnormal" sounds really too weak to get feedback when players playing it (especially from 00:32:096 - to 01:08:458 - ). highly recommended to increase this file's volume to 200% and increase overall green line volume. (here is 200% volume's hitsound: http://puu.sh/AG9ZD/087f3d62bb.wav&#41; changed
2. you need to add a diff to linkage what between Normal and Hard diff. the spread between Normal and Hard is too big imo. or you can buff your Normal diff to about 2.5*.seems not too large

Insane

1. i think 00:38:459 - should be mapped and clicked. you followed vocal and guitar sound 00:38:641 (4,5,6) - here, but why you ignored this place (00:38:459 - ) of guitar sound and vocal. it's not weak enough to be directly ignored imo. 00:38:096 - i deleted this note to make here sounds regular
2. 00:41:005 - ^
3. the vocal appear from 02:42:997 - to 02:51:360 - . i think you can add some new pattern but not like before.
4. 03:49:662 (1,2,3) - should be more ds. this part of drum is stronger than 03:10:334 (3,4,5,6,1) - , but the ds of 03:49:662 (1,2,3) - is not bigger than it, so i think you need increase some ds to show this drum sound. moved further a little

Hard

1. some place what 1/2 rhythm's jump is too far (the ds even over 2.0x in 165bpm). such as 00:04:280 (5,1) - 00:05:007 (3,4) - , this part of music not strong enough to support you make a far jump here imo. even their ds is father than 3/4 jump (00:37:187 (1,2,3) - ), i think it s a big aim challenge and hard to play for newplayers. i strongly recommend weakening this part (over 2.0x ds) of the ds. also maybe you can linkage the spread between Normal and Hard if you weaken some far 1/2 jumps and the star become lower. moved closer
2. 01:25:003 (4,5) - vs 01:26:456 (4,5) - . i think you should follow your pattern what you did, like 01:25:003 (4,5) - but not stack it (01:26:456 (4,5) - ). if you suddenly change your pattern in same music part, newplayers maybe will confuse on this or miss read it. moved away from each other

Normal

1. 00:38:278 (2,3,1) - this pattern is not really intuitive for newplayers. 00:39:368 (1) - and 00:38:641 (3) - almost simultaneously appear in their vision and they don't know which one should be clicked at first. move it to the left side of the slider and adjust slider to blanket it will be better. like this kept, they are fine for new player
   img(x:301 y:164)

   
2. 00:53:186 (2,1) - same problem.^ rotate 00:53:913 (1) - ninety degrees and adjust its place
   img

   
3. 01:26:275 (2,3,1,2) - same problem.^ you can move 01:27:365 (1) - to the top side of this slider 01:26:638 (3) - and make 01:27:729 (2) - stack on 01:26:275 (2) - . also need keep their ds 1.3x
4. 01:29:184 (2,3,1,2) - same problem. ^ you can move 01:30:274 (1) - to the right slide of this slider 01:29:547 (3) - and make 01:30:638 (2) - stack on 01:29:184 (2) -
5. 01:15:730 (1,1) - according to RC: Avoid overlapping circles, slider heads, and slider tails. These can be confusing for new players. 1/2 overlaps due to distance snapping are an exception. (RC: https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Ranking_Criteria/osu!&#41;. i think the overlap here has completely interfered with the reading of newplayers.
   overlap

   
   you need move this slider 01:17:184 (1) - and avoid overlap. moved

Easy

1. 00:45:913 (3,4) - ds problem. keep ds 0.8x moved
2. 03:03:730 (1,2,3) - same problem. ^ ^

摸完了

Regraz wrote:

Simple Mod
[Insane]

00:05:916 (1) - 音乐渐强，音量相应调整可 加了个绿线

00:07:007 (5) - NC可，一致性保持 好

00:41:005 加note可，参考00:38:096 (2) - 前面参考后面的删了个note

00:50:277 (5) - 3/4 节奏可 都改3/4了

03:00:128 (1) - 也是3/4可能好些

03:06:732 (3) - 3/4 + 圈好点，参考03:09:133 (5,6) -

03:54:752 (1) - 加个转盘吧不加啦!

Ryuusei Aika wrote:

reply some 3~4 years old mods (if diffs haven't been remapped during these years then it's mandatory)
the whole map changed so much since i revived the map that those mods maybe lost their value

General
00:06:825 - 00:07:279 - can consider adding some hitsounds here since it's has many drum beats, have literally nothing here is meh
can only use combo color 3/4 on the 200 bpm part to show out the higher intensity all fixed

Easy
00:12:461 (5) - can just use a 2/1 long slider here since that 1/1 reverse slider can't represent those 3/4 beats properly
- 00:48:822 (6) - / 01:29:547 (7) - ^all fixed

Normal
01:01:185 (2,3) - ds is not consistent here, 2/1 gap should also have a consistent ds setting

02:08:818 (3) - can anti-clockwise rotate it a bit to avoid the tiny overlap enter 02:08:818 (3,3) -

02:10:272 (3,1,2) - visual ds here can be improved
02:14:635 (3,1,2) - ^

02:21:908 (3,1) - blanket is obviously out :/ all fixed

zhe normal tai niubi le

Hard
03:16:937 (1,2,3,4) - can move 3 out to represent that clap sound better
same advice for every quadraplet in this section all fixed

HW's Another
01:59:545 (2) - can put NC on here instead of 01:59:364 (1) - so 01:59:545 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - can look more like an ensemble

HW's Expert
02:16:635 (6) - can reduce the ds here (vocal's tune go down) like what you have done on similar parts. since you seem trying to avoid obvious partly overlap in the kiai part, here is one possible solution: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11203945 k

03:43:844 (3,4,5,6,1) - since you seem trying to avoid obvious partly overlap in the kiai part (twice), you can adjust their position a bit like that: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11203970 this overlap may cause little effect to playing under ar9, so i'd like to keep this placing for the consistent 1.5x ds between 1/2 beat gap.
- 03:45:298 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2) - similar reason with ^ and you can adjust 03:45:298 (3,4,5,6,7) - in a way like:
^https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11203980

Insane
03:28:572 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - can try using different ds (or at least different shape) for each separated stream to represent the intensity change of the song k

let me know when you think it's ready

Lasse wrote:

general
00:58:276 - missing finish
added in each diff

insane
00:21:551 - seems kinda weird rhythm wise cause you follow melody for most of this part, maybe https://i.imgur.com/7S4wFCN.jpg ?changed rhythm as your img
01:04:094 (1,2,3,4) - i don't really get the rhythm choice here, there is nothing that really implies this kind of rhythm (groups of 3)
01:05:549 (1,2,3,4,5) - this one makes more sense
these notes are following vocal now
01:33:911 - 02:32:634 - 03:25:481 - broken break snapping lol. also check them on other diffs
fixed
03:34:935 (4,5,6) - can you make movement into/on slider a bit more intuitive? maybe like https://i.imgur.com/3AS75ZQ.jpg for example, just make sure it's not offscreen when using 800x600
changed the slider track


hw's expert
sure about using same od as your lower diff? i thik 7.5 or 8 would fit
done

hard
02:52:024 - add an actual break? so much empty drain
added

03:03:730 (1,2,3,4) - 3/2 rhythm emphasis seems rly unfitting here
those repeat slider followed the vocal here well imo,
kept

normal
ar6 pls, patterns like 00:39:368 - will be so much better with it
done
00:37:914 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - this whole thing is actually pretty cluttered and kinda tilting for newer players. could do something like https://i.imgur.com/oEFMut7.jpg for example
moved those notes away from each other

easy
just use ar4, it's actually more comfortable for new players
done
02:08:727 - something like https://i.imgur.com/EehmWPi.jpg would be more intuitive
k


let me know when I can qualify

Shovan wrote:

HW's Expert
01:52:455 (2,3) - Here the movement is not 90° or 180° like between any other object. Any reason? Else maybe it's possible to fix this?

/edit: same here 02:09:181 (5,1) - 03:16:037 (4,1) - 03:31:481 (1,2) - 00:47:368 (2,3) -

Karen wrote:

您有没有回我摸

Karen wrote:

那您收拾收拾去世得了

Hobbes2 wrote:

some concerns - hello

general -

I think you can improve the hitsounding. All you hitsound are claps and finishes, but the top diffs often skip the white beats that would have the claps, which means there can large chunks with no hitsounding. Using whistles in addition to what you have can remedy this, for example.Hit normal is enough for this song, add more hitsounds intentional would make the map sounds weird imo.

easy -

I don't think think this diff is suitable for rank. The entire thing uses 2/1 rhythms, which doesn't really let you follow the song in any meaningful way. Because of the rhythm the entire diff just feels like playing a metronome. I don't think anything in this diff is really salvageable so I suggest remapping and this time using a mix of 2/1 and 1/1 rhythms to keep things interesting and also to let you follow the song with the rhythm. I use 1/1 sliders instead of circles to made the rhythm in kiai part be a little more dense

normal -

a bunch of objects are missing claps, like 00:09:916 - 00:14:279 - 00:15:733 - 00:21:551 - etc. I think this was an error in copying hitsounds? Since higher diffs do not map these white ticks. there are more later like 01:15:366 - so please check the whole map.

01:24:457 - This section is entirely missing hitsounds, due to copying hitsounds from a diff that has a break here.

03:16:937 (1,2) - I think this section makes more sense with claps on 2nd and 4th white beat instead of third white beat, since that's what the music is doing.
fixed issued of hitsound.



other diffs -

02:25:544 - I believe in this section the objects should be snapped to 3/8, like this - http://puu.sh/AJSp5/6b23e2bfd2.jpg this is a lot more accurate than using 1/3 here. applies to both of hollow wings' diffs. It had no effect to playing also I can't tell the distinction clearly even I use 25% speed, so kept.

for hard, 02:32:634 (4) - should be on the yellow tick right after 02:32:679 -deleted that circle

Hobbes2 wrote:

Okay, I'm fine with the changes. 03:41:299 (6) - is missing clap on the easy.

Lanturn wrote:

I feel like Easy could use more TLC as it's current state needs some improvements

00:05:916 (5) - It seems like you removed the spinner which was a great start... However, the strongest note here played at 00:07:370 - is simply a slider end which doesn't add any impact to the song itself. A note like this is better off as its own clickable object. As an example. I would suggest that you reduce the end by 1/1 to 00:07:007 - and add a note at 00:07:370 -

00:11:734 (4,5) - vs 00:23:369 (5,1) - In the second link, you have 00:13:188 - mapped out to a circle which is ideally the better option here as it makes the strongest part clickable.

The aesthetics/placements is probably the biggest issue I currently have with this difficulty. Everything looks so rushed and uninspired to the point where it feels like this was made in 10 minutes with little to no care. Not going to beat around the bush with this, it needs a lot of improvements before I feel like this should be qualified.

The first major thing is shape variety with sliders. This diff has nothing but randomly angled curves that don't compliment the other randomly angled curves. This
also affects the overall aesthetics and even causes issues with flow more often than not.

Let's start with 02:42:997 (1,2,1,2) - This is pretty much a freebie for using any sort of design. Try to make these sliders compliment each other in some shape or form. Be it 4 copy paste wave sliders, two pairs as a copy rotate, Heck, even 4 5 degree angled straight sliders next to each other or even alternating back and forth. The options are limitless and I know you can improve on these without even much effort.

03:16:937 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3) - These three sets use the same rhythms to accompany the similar rhythm. Why not make some consistent placements and or movements here to have them compliment each other.

00:05:916 (5) - There's really not much to say about this. Both the flow and aesthetic approach to this definitely needs to be improved. Since this a very unique part of the song, why not customize this slider to stand out from everything. And no, having it awkwardly placed like it is, isn't what I mean by standing out here.

00:10:279 (3) - 01:02:640 (2) - I'd recommend against placing circles off the backside of slider ends, especially in lower diffs since they can be confusing to read for one thing, and it also breaks flow when you really don't have to. It also just looks like plain laziness when I see these. For example. You could easily flip 00:10:279 (3) - around in this case or even use a wave slider if you want to keep the circle in the general direction it is. 02:15:363 (2,3) - is somewhat of a reversed issue, but it creates the same problems of having a clear path for newer players. 02:22:635 (4,5) - A lot could be done to (4) to help compliment (5)'
s placement here as well.

01:48:455 (2,3,4,5,6) - This is a nice opportunity to set up some symmetry if you want. Possibly make (2,6) horizontal flips of each other, and arrange (3,4,5) in the middle.

00:42:277 (5,1) - The curve amount on both these sliders could use a little tweaking to balance them. Either reduce the curve on (5) or curve (1) a little more. I'm not asking for perfection, but it does stick enough that I notice it every time I pass by them.

03:28:572 (1,1) - Since you removed the spinner at 00:05:916 (5) - how about doing the same here? It gets rid of the awkard gap between the spinner and 03:31:481 (1) - where the kiai is going full blast but you aren't playing anything.

So It's nice to see a little more variety in your rhythm after Hobbes mod, but it still does feel a bit monotonous in the other untouched sections of the map. The main issue is that your sliders are almost all 2/1 which when coupled with the circles has a beat every 2/1. I'm not really going to press for any more additional changes since the song itself for an easy would actually be quite difficult over mapping a simple rhythm like you did. If you can find places to use anything other than a simple 2/1 slider or 2/1 spaced circle, that would be awesome.

Overall, I'd just like you to go through the map again and make the notes look a little less randomly placed and a bit more structured. Use a bit more variety in your shapes as well. It wouldn't hurt to be a bit more consistent as well.

Anyways, feel free to call me if you need any assistance on the diff. Sorry the formatting looks like a pile of crap as well. I was more or less just typing thoughts out rather than organizing them.

Lasse wrote:

insane
02:34:270 (1,1,2,1,1,2) - what happened with the comboing here? it wasn't like this before dq iirc and goes back to "normal" right after

easy
03:30:027 - looks like your comboing broke here too? if you look at 02:02:272 - etc

seems better now, just check with lanturn to make sure