Ken Nakagawa - Welcome to the Workshop! [Osu|OsuMania|Taiko] · forum

osu file format v14

[General]
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[Editor]
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[Metadata]
Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
TitleUnicode:Welcome to the Workshop!
Artist:Nakagawa Ken
ArtistUnicode:中河健
Creator:schwarzvgrune
Version:Ikin's Futsuu
Source:Atelier III - Grand Phantasm
Tags:Gust NIS nowsmart Daisuke Achiwa Avishay Nardoxyribonucleic Lazer ikin5050 Lenfried-
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Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,009 posts

Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2015-03-11T13:36:51+00:00

Genocide wrote:
wtf i lost my mod, so for some mod will no give the reason ;-;
final check for taiko

[Nardo's Muzukashii]
00:29:975 (58) - don, for better flow. I would prefer keeping k here as the guitar is more energetic than 00:05:975 (10) -
00:36:275 (70,71) - delete pls, i know there is have some background sound but i prefer to delete it to makes more longer break space. Deleting these notes will make this part nearly the same as Futsuu, that's why I mapped the sounds there.
00:55:475 (112,113) - delete if you change above, to make consistency ^ ^
00:59:525 (121) - better delete this too make more longer break space. The note is placed to cohere with 01:01:925 (131) - . If it is deleted, the part will sound a bit weird.
01:07:775 (144) - delete this fixed
01:34:325 (198) - delete this if you change 00:36:275 - same as 00:36:275 (70,71) -

[Nardo's Oni]
00:36:575 (101,102) - ctrl + g, the sound is similar with 00:37:775 (105,106) - I think it is more similar to 00:35:375 (97,98) -
00:55:775 (179,180) - d k , the sound is more fit imo, k k k d Retained kd to cohere with ^ since the rhythms are similar.
01:12:575 (252) - try to change this as kat, if you want same emphasis. I think d would be fine since there is no high-pitched sound.

Call me back

Thanks for your mod~

Update: http://puu.sh/gvMFT.zip

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-12T13:23:48+00:00

Genocide wrote:
wtf i lost my mod, so for some mod will no give the reason ;-;
final check for taiko

[IKIN'S DAMNED DIFFICULTY]
00:06:875 (10) - DELETE THIS, WHAT ARE YOU FOLLOWING TO!?
00:17:375 (24,29) - DELETE BOTH, FOR BETTER BREAK
00:52:475 (82) - delete this, for better break.
01:01:475 (95) - kat, for better flow
01:02:975 (97) - delete and 01:03:275 - move to 01:02:975 -
01:11:675 (115) - delete. you didn't follow anything here

[Nardo's Muzukashii]
00:29:975 (58) - don, for better flow.
00:36:275 (70,71) - delete pls, i know there is have some background sound but i prefer to delete it to makes more longer break space.
00:55:475 (112,113) - delete if you change above, to make consistency ^
00:59:525 (121) - better delete this too make more longer break space.
01:07:775 (144) - delete this
01:34:325 (198) - delete this if you change 00:36:275 -

[Nardo's Oni]
00:36:575 (101,102) - ctrl + g, the sound is similar with 00:37:775 (105,106) -
00:55:775 (179,180) - d k , the sound is more fit imo, k k k d
01:12:575 (252) - try to change this as kat, if you want same emphasis.

A little mods for hard, feel free to ignore it, i just feel out my though

[Razer's Hard]
00:19:025 (3) - delete this, since this is Hard Difficult, don't rush about pattern and notes.
00:30:575 (2) - ctrl + g, too hard to be Hard Difficulty.
00:56:525 (6) - delete this, same reason with ^
01:08:075 (2) - a bit strange. why u use 1/2 reverse slider, please make it as http://puu.sh/gvHcO/b8cca3bc4e.png
01:32:525 (4) - delete same reason with 00:30:575 (2) -
01:42:875 (2) - x224 y140.
01:45:275 (2) - x116 y248. to make consistent distance with above^.

Call me back

thanks! all updated!

PatZar

3,079 posts

Joined March 2013

PatZar 2015-03-12T13:28:45+00:00

[Ikin's Futsuu]
sorry, 01:39:575 - add don here, please make consistency by previous notes.

call me back

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-03-13T03:34:08+00:00

Genocide wrote:
[Razer's Hard]
00:19:025 (3) - delete this, since this is Hard Difficult, don't rush about pattern and notes. Didn't change, seems alright to me
00:30:575 (2) - ctrl + g, too hard to be Hard Difficulty. Changed
00:56:525 (6) - delete this, same reason with ^ Deleted one circle
01:08:075 (2) - a bit strange. why u use 1/2 reverse slider, please make it as http://puu.sh/gvHcO/b8cca3bc4e.png How bad of me, changed
01:32:525 (4) - delete same reason with 00:30:575 (2) - Deleted one circle
01:42:875 (2) - x224 y140. It'll make them overlap, I'm not sure if this is okay
01:45:275 (2) - x116 y248. to make consistent distance with above^. ^

Call me back

Appreciate the mod!

UPDATED

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-14T10:08:58+00:00

all updated

Gaia

2,808 posts

Joined May 2013

Gaia 2015-03-14T17:57:02+00:00

yo/ m4m

modding std diffs

[General]
Insane and Lazer's diffs have different combo colours umm

you need to add about 600 ms of audio leadin (for std, idk about others)

I have no knowledge about other modes but these .wavs are unused (apparently) :

- svf_g5ss.wav
- scg_a#5.wav
- scg_e5.wav
- svf_g#6ss.wav
- scg_a#5s.wav
- scg_a4.wav
- scg_g#5.wav
- svf_c6s.wav
- svf_d#6s.wav
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- svf_g#4.wav
- scg_e5s.wav
- svf_a#5ss.wav
- svf_c4ss.wav
- scg_c6s.wav
- scg_d#5s.wav
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- scg_g5s.wav
- svf_c6ss.wav
- svf_e5ss.wav
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- scg_g#5s.wav
- scg_g6.wav
- svs_g5ss.wav
- scg_c5.wav
- scg_f6s.wav
- svf_a#4.wav
- svf_f6ss.wav
- scg_g5.wav
- scg_d5s.wav
- svf_a#4ss.wav
- svf_a4ss.wav
- svf_g6ss.wav
- svs_a5ss.wav
- svs_a#5ss.wav
- svs_a#5s.wav
- scg_g4.wav
- scg_c4s.wav
- svf_c#6ss.wav
- scg_f6.wav
- scg_f5s.wav
- svf_d4ss.wav
- svf_c5ss.wav
- scg_f5.wav
- svf_d#5ss.wav
- scg_b4.wav
- svf_g#5ss.wav
- scg_b3.wav
- svf_f5ss.wav
- scg_a5.wav
- svf_e6ss.wav

[Normal]
since this is the easiest difficulty, i strongly recommend you not to change SV and DS, it's confusing for beginners to play
00:01:475 (1,2,3,4,5) - this kind of flow is really gross, especially when you have a straight line, it's really rigid and hard to play ><
00:03:875 (1,2,3) - why not just blanket this? it'd look so much better
00:07:475 (2,3) - ahh this is really bad polarity! especially since this is your easiest diff you have to avoid this. change it into a 3/4 repeat slider instead
00:09:875 (2) - there is no note here, the actual notes are on 00:10:175 - and 00:10:475 - (which you've left empty)
00:10:775 (1,2,3) - again the bad polarity, the spacing is kinda inconsistent too, which is why you should be mapping on grid4 all the time (or dont use grid snap at all)
00:11:975 (3,4) - this flow is really bad ><
00:15:875 (1,2) - inconsistent spacing, bad polarity yeah you know it. you want something like

00:21:275 (3,4,5,1) - 00:23:675 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you shouldnt have all these sliders in a row then a bunch of circles after, try mixing it up a bit more!

00:34:475 (5) - this is really bad flow, the cursor was moving up but then suddenly pulled down to the right
00:35:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i have no idea what you're following here..
00:44:075 (3,4) - flow >< rather change this to a slider
00:47:075 (1) - copy 00:45:875 (3) - and rotate 180 degress would look so much cleaner!

okay, tbh the rest of the diffs has the same kinds of issues: flow, rhythm and structure. you should also look in at all your distance snappings if you have the time, cuz i think some of them are inconsistent

[Insane]
NCing here seems to be really inconsistent.. just put it on every big white tick and you'll be fine

00:03:125 - there's barely a sound here.. change this into a circle, mapping the blue tick only causes bad polarity . also the spacing on this is broken . you're gunna need a NC or something to call this an antijump
00:03:875 (1,2,3) - try to keep your 1/4 jumps consistent
00:06:725 (1,2) - seriously dont do this, bad polarity really screws players over
00:07:925 (4,5) - inconsistent spacing, this is 1/4 spacing from what ive seen earlier
00:10:925 (4,5,6) - what is this spacing :>
00:14:225 (1,2,3,1) - i dont think the thing in the music supports such a big jump here
00:15:875 (1) - 00:18:275 (1) - finish on head 00:17:675 (5) - remove finish

i see you like playing with sv a lot, that's fine but really work on how to make them readable ingame
also the jumps here are really iffy imo, listen to the sound and think about if the music actually supports the jumps

but most importantly i think this diff needs more consistent spacing, cuz its really all over the place right now

anyways thats enough from me i think, good luck from now!

meii18

3,577 posts

Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-03-14T18:00:49+00:00

Gaia wrote:
I have no knowledge about other modes but these .wavs are unused (apparently) :
SPOILER
- svf_g5ss.wav
- scg_a#5.wav
- scg_e5.wav
- svf_g#6ss.wav
- scg_a#5s.wav
- scg_a4.wav
- scg_g#5.wav
- svf_c6s.wav
- svf_d#6s.wav
- svf_b4ss.wav
- svf_g#4.wav
- scg_e5s.wav
- svf_a#5ss.wav
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- scg_c6s.wav
- scg_d#5s.wav
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- scg_g5s.wav
- svf_c6ss.wav
- svf_e5ss.wav
- svf_d#6ss.wav
- scg_g#5s.wav
- scg_g6.wav
- svs_g5ss.wav
- scg_c5.wav
- scg_f6s.wav
- svf_a#4.wav
- svf_f6ss.wav
- scg_g5.wav
- scg_d5s.wav
- svf_a#4ss.wav
- svf_a4ss.wav
- svf_g6ss.wav
- svs_a5ss.wav
- svs_a#5ss.wav
- svs_a#5s.wav
- scg_g4.wav
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- svf_c#6ss.wav
- scg_f6.wav
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- scg_f5.wav
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- scg_b4.wav
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- scg_b3.wav
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- scg_a5.wav
- svf_e6ss.wav

These are for mania diffs but yea they're unused . They should be renamed to be used but I'm not good at mania ;w;

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-15T04:21:22+00:00

ByBy_ChAn wrote:
Gaia wrote:
I have no knowledge about other modes but these .wavs are unused (apparently) :
SPOILER
- svf_g5ss.wav
- scg_a#5.wav
- scg_e5.wav
- svf_g#6ss.wav
- scg_a#5s.wav
- scg_a4.wav
- scg_g#5.wav
- svf_c6s.wav
- svf_d#6s.wav
- svf_b4ss.wav
- svf_g#4.wav
- scg_e5s.wav
- svf_a#5ss.wav
- svf_c4ss.wav
- scg_c6s.wav
- scg_d#5s.wav
- svf_e4ss.wav
- scg_g5s.wav
- svf_c6ss.wav
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- svf_d#6ss.wav
- scg_g#5s.wav
- scg_g6.wav
- svs_g5ss.wav
- scg_c5.wav
- scg_f6s.wav
- svf_a#4.wav
- svf_f6ss.wav
- scg_g5.wav
- scg_d5s.wav
- svf_a#4ss.wav
- svf_a4ss.wav
- svf_g6ss.wav
- svs_a5ss.wav
- svs_a#5ss.wav
- svs_a#5s.wav
- scg_g4.wav
- scg_c4s.wav
- svf_c#6ss.wav
- scg_f6.wav
- scg_f5s.wav
- svf_d4ss.wav
- svf_c5ss.wav
- scg_f5.wav
- svf_d#5ss.wav
- scg_b4.wav
- svf_g#5ss.wav
- scg_b3.wav
- svf_f5ss.wav
- scg_a5.wav
- svf_e6ss.wav
These are for mania diffs but yea they're unused . They should be renamed to be used but I'm not good at mania ;w;

i believe i've used all of them on mania, i am using pitched instrument on mania diffs o.o
i don't know what you're using to check, but the apps for unused hitsound check from the forum somewhere, i have tried it, and it did not work on mania. if you use t hat app, it will highlights that all those pitched hitsound are unused when in fact its actually used in mania

etc, when you're checking for mania use view - show sample names, and it will show you the sample hitsound that i used for each note.

PatZar

3,079 posts

Joined March 2013

PatZar 2015-03-15T10:42:04+00:00

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-03-15T11:25:45+00:00

Gaia wrote:
[Insane]
NCing here seems to be really inconsistent.. just put it on every big white tick and you'll be fine

00:03:125 - there's barely a sound here.. change this into a circle, mapping the blue tick only causes bad polarity . also the spacing on this is broken . you're gunna need a NC or something to call this an antijump NC added but no other change.
00:03:875 (1,2,3) - try to keep your 1/4 jumps consistent V
00:06:725 (1,2) - seriously dont do this, bad polarity really screws players over Why? Those are not forced beats and it goes just fine.
00:07:925 (4,5) - inconsistent spacing, this is 1/4 spacing from what ive seen earlier Fixed
00:10:925 (4,5,6) - what is this spacing :> Added NC
00:14:225 (1,2,3,1) - i dont think the thing in the music supports such a big jump here Changed
00:15:875 (1) - 00:18:275 (1) - finish on head 00:17:675 (5) - remove finish V

i see you like playing with sv a lot, that's fine but really work on how to make them readable ingame
also the jumps here are really iffy imo, listen to the sound and think about if the music actually supports the jumps

but most importantly i think this diff needs more consistent spacing, cuz its really all over the place right now

anyways thats enough from me i think, good luck from now!

Thanks.

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schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-15T15:50:19+00:00

Genocide wrote:

thank you very much QAQ
at last for taiko QAQ

all diffs updated!

rhalp10

579 posts

Joined September 2013

rhalp10 2015-03-20T01:58:54+00:00

HERES MY MOD

[Welcome to the Workshop!]

-W

-E

-R
[Nardo's Oni]
00:24:875 (56) - Make It Red
00:25:175 (57) - Make it Blue
00:39:275 (109,110,111,112) - Invert There Color

[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:05:675 (5675|5,5675|1,5975|2,5975|4,6275|3,6275|2) - Ctrl + H
00:39:575 (39575|4) - Make It Long Note 00:39:725 Start Here 00:39:575 (39575|4) ? End Here (39725|5)

Good Luck <3

Last edited by rhalp10 2015-03-25T01:38:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

1,780 posts

Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-20T02:26:10+00:00

rhalp10 wrote:

HERES MY MOD
[Welcome to the Workshop!]

[Nardo's Oni]
00:24:875 (56) - Make It Red
00:25:175 (57) - Make it Blue
00:39:275 (109,110,111,112) - Invert There Color

[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:05:675 (5675|5,5675|1,5975|2,5975|4,6275|3,6275|2) - Ctrl + H finger balance yes? but horrible layering so no
00:39:575 (39575|4) - Make It Long Note 00:39:725 Start Here 00:39:575 (39575|4) ? End Here (39725|5) what for?

Good Luck <3

Oh u. May taiko icon na :v
Will check mod later ^^

no change

Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,009 posts

Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2015-03-20T09:01:56+00:00

rhalp10 wrote:

HERES MY MOD
[Welcome to the Workshop!]

[Nardo's Oni]
00:24:875 (56) - Make It Red k d would result in a smoother flow imo.
00:25:175 (57) - Make it Blue ^
00:39:275 (109,110,111,112) - Invert There Color I think the current pattern could reflect the guitar pitch in a way better.

Good Luck <3

Thanks for your mod~

Shushan

627 posts

Joined November 2013

Shushan 2015-03-21T15:33:26+00:00

17:06 ohad1881: send it now
17:06 *schwarzvgrune is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/614485 Nakagawa Ken - Welcome to the Workshop!]
17:07 schwarzvgrune: can i post this testplay conversation on my thread?
17:07 ohad1881: yes
17:07 schwarzvgrune: because im not the one making the std diffs
17:07 schwarzvgrune: okay thank you
17:07 schwarzvgrune: so i can let the GDers know what ppl think about their maps >_<
17:07 ohad1881: spectating?
17:07 ohad1881: yea
17:07 ohad1881: i know avishay
17:07 ohad1881: :3
17:07 ohad1881: anyway
17:07 ohad1881: spectate
17:07 schwarzvgrune: yes youre both from israel after all <3
17:07 schwarzvgrune: yup
17:07 schwarzvgrune: done
17:08 ohad1881: ok lets see
17:10 ohad1881: ok
17:10 ohad1881: few things
17:10 ohad1881: the start have a lot of random placmant
17:10 ohad1881: and its a quiet music so you should make a little ds in the start
17:11 ohad1881: 2. there are a lot of random sliders
17:11 ohad1881: ill find 1
17:12 schwarzvgrune: i see!
17:12 ohad1881: 00:31:176 this one is preety bad
17:12 ohad1881: you should make the red curve in the middle
17:13 ohad1881: 00:47:225
17:13 ohad1881: this one does not seem to git the music well
17:13 schwarzvgrune: i see
17:13 schwarzvgrune: oh yes for a note, you can use hebrew.. because avishay will be the one reading this
17:14 ohad1881: nah its ok
17:14 ohad1881: 01:09:575
17:14 ohad1881: blanket need a fix
17:14 ohad1881: 01:13:475
17:14 ohad1881: this slider is really not good for watching and playin
17:15 ohad1881: sorry avi
17:15 ohad1881: and there are a lot of unstacked circles
17:16 ohad1881: 01:44:225
17:16 ohad1881: and more
17:16 ohad1881: good things:
17:16 ohad1881: this map is really fun to play and i like the idea of the cs 5
17:16 ohad1881: it has a good patterns that i liked
17:16 ohad1881: like this
17:17 ohad1881: 00:43:175 - 00:44:375
17:18 ohad1881: i liked the hitsounding a lot 2
17:18 ohad1881: hmm would you like on the other diffs?
17:18 schwarzvgrune: oh okay >w<b thanks... and also are you going to be the one posting this conv or me？ if you post it i can give you a kudosu. because you're actually modding at the moment and not only testplaying anymore...
17:19 ohad1881: how do i do that
17:19 ohad1881: i never understood
17:19 schwarzvgrune: sure it would be great if you could do that, and we can count that as a mod instead, so you can post this conversation on the thread
17:19 schwarzvgrune: oh
17:19 schwarzvgrune: i can tell you later
17:19 schwarzvgrune: you only need to type /savelog
17:19 schwarzvgrune: to save your log
17:19 schwarzvgrune: and then just go to the thread ill give you the link later
17:19 ohad1881: ok done
17:19 schwarzvgrune: and post those conversation on the log, unto the thread
17:19 ohad1881: ok
17:19 ohad1881: soo
17:19 ohad1881: how do i do that
17:20 schwarzvgrune: umm...
17:20 schwarzvgrune: use /savelog
17:20 ohad1881: and then what..
17:20 schwarzvgrune: then copy and paste conversation content unto the thread
17:20 schwarzvgrune: when you type /savelog, see at the bottom right corner of your osu window
17:21 schwarzvgrune: file saved to xxx you can click that before its gone
17:21 schwarzvgrune: then the txt document will be opened
17:21 ohad1881: ok
17:21 ohad1881: ill post it
17:22 schwarzvgrune: t/210997
17:22 ohad1881: posted
17:22 schwarzvgrune: do you mind testing lazer's diff as well?
17:23 ohad1881: yea ok
17:25 ohad1881: oki doki
17:25 ohad1881: lets see
17:26 ohad1881: 00:22:475
17:26 ohad1881: remove nc PLS
17:26 ohad1881: 00:24:875
17:26 ohad1881: ^^
17:26 ohad1881: 00:26:225 fix blanket
17:27 ohad1881: put it in 1 (00:32:675) to make a nie blanket
17:27 ohad1881: like this ill show you
17:28 ohad1881: http://prntscr.com/6jix6u
17:28 ohad1881: 00:45:575 3,4,5
17:28 ohad1881: not flowing well at all
17:28 ohad1881: 00:47:675
17:29 ohad1881: this kind of triples are kinda bad to do its a bad flow
17:29 ohad1881: 01:02:825
17:29 ohad1881: fix blanket
17:30 ohad1881: well thats it
17:30 ohad1881: i suck at easy
17:30 ohad1881: so i cant tell you else
17:30 ohad1881: normal to..
17:30 schwarzvgrune: sure its fine
17:30 schwarzvgrune: thank you
17:31 ohad1881: ok ill edit the post and put the lazers mod 2

Aste-

2,387 posts

Joined September 2014

Aste- 2015-03-21T15:59:28+00:00

just a litt'e MOD for A's Insane...

AR = 8,7? isn't it too fast? (suggest 8.5)
and the star are too.. uhhh high....

sorry if i make any mistake >.<

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-03-21T17:37:23+00:00

Pharos21 wrote:
just a litt'e MOD for A's Insane...

AR = 8,7? isn't it too fast? (suggest 8.5) Lower just feels bad for the difficulty of the map imo :S
and the star are too.. uhhh high.... Star rating? Well I don't map around star rating but rather how I feel it should be.

sorry if i make any mistake >.<

ohad1881 wrote:
17:06 ohad1881: send it now
17:06 *schwarzvgrune is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/614485 Nakagawa Ken - Welcome to the Workshop!]
17:07 schwarzvgrune: can i post this testplay conversation on my thread?
17:07 ohad1881: yes
17:07 schwarzvgrune: because im not the one making the std diffs
17:07 schwarzvgrune: okay thank you
17:07 schwarzvgrune: so i can let the GDers know what ppl think about their maps >_<
17:07 ohad1881: spectating?
17:07 ohad1881: yea
17:07 ohad1881: i know avishay
17:07 ohad1881: :3
17:07 ohad1881: anyway
17:07 ohad1881: spectate
17:07 schwarzvgrune: yes youre both from israel after all <3
17:07 schwarzvgrune: yup
17:07 schwarzvgrune: done
17:08 ohad1881: ok lets see
17:10 ohad1881: ok
17:10 ohad1881: few things
17:10 ohad1881: the start have a lot of random placmant
17:10 ohad1881: and its a quiet music so you should make a little ds in the start
17:11 ohad1881: 2. there are a lot of random sliders
17:11 ohad1881: ill find 1
17:12 schwarzvgrune: i see!
17:12 ohad1881: 00:31:176 this one is preety bad
17:12 ohad1881: you should make the red curve in the middle Why? This part feels 'jumpy' so I do not want to use curved sliders.
17:13 ohad1881: 00:47:225
17:13 ohad1881: this one does not seem to git the music well I think it follows it fine, but I removed the reverse and added something else.
17:13 schwarzvgrune: i see
17:13 schwarzvgrune: oh yes for a note, you can use hebrew.. because avishay will be the one reading this
17:14 ohad1881: nah its ok
17:14 ohad1881: 01:09:575 I think it's fine, don't get nazi :S
17:14 ohad1881: blanket need a fix
17:14 ohad1881: 01:13:475 I think it's fine, just a bit irregular and unique.
17:14 ohad1881: this slider is really not good for watching and playin
17:15 ohad1881: sorry avi
17:15 ohad1881: and there are a lot of unstacked circles
17:16 ohad1881: 01:44:225 Fixed whatever I could find.
17:16 ohad1881: and more
17:16 ohad1881: good things:
17:16 ohad1881: this map is really fun to play and i like the idea of the cs 5
17:16 ohad1881: it has a good patterns that i liked
17:16 ohad1881: like this
17:17 ohad1881: 00:43:175 - 00:44:375
17:18 ohad1881: i liked the hitsounding a lot 2

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SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Atelier_Iris_3__Grand_Phantasm_by_Lunatia.jpg",0,0
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Combo2 : 80,70,190
Combo3 : 180,100,90
Combo4 : 90,160,120
Combo5 : 130,90,120

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FIXED FLOW!

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-22T05:45:06+00:00

all updated thanks

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-03-22T20:02:56+00:00

[A's Insane]

00:02:675 (3,1) - Seems like flow error
00:05:525 (1) - I feel like you should ctrl + j and reposition a bit for flow
00:10:475 (2) - Move towards left so you can create some sort of triangle also regarding flow
00:18:725 (2) - I believe this one will have to get removed
00:23:525 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest making it like this
00:26:375 (3,4) - Ctrl G these two, then Ctrl G 00:26:675 (1) - , and (maybe) make a small upwards curve in the slider
00:28:625 (4,1) - These two transition into bad flow
00:58:475 (3) - Ctrl H that one for flow
01:47:825 (4,5) - I would suggest removing these

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-03-22T20:13:34+00:00

And here is normal difficulty flow fix, and with that I believe both my difficulties are completely done

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EDIT: found small problem on hard/checked testplay mod, updated it aswell

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shionelove

1,522 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2015-03-23T07:06:19+00:00

pattern mod
column 1234 1234567
bg ok
mp3
aimod ok

HP&OD
7K normal:HP+1
4K Hard&7K Hard:HP +0.5~1

[General]
01:51:875 - you have to add because of measure thing
maybe other modes too

[4K Easy]
01:20:675 (80675|2) - move to 2
[4K Normal]
nothing
[4K Hard]
00:17:675 (17675|1) - until 00:18:275 (18275|2) - ? i'm afraid of unrank because of this conflict
01:44:075 (104075|1,106475|2,108875|1) - ^

[7K Easy]
00:38:375 (38375|3,39575|2,39725|4,39875|6) - move to 3,246
01:49:475 (109475|3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926338 i think
[7K Normal]
00:17:675 (17675|5) - compere with 01:44:075 (104075|5) - plz
make same plz
01:11:075 (71075|1,71075|3) - move to 46
01:30:575 (90575|2,91175|2,91775|2) - delete?
01:49:475 (109475|1,109925|2,110375|1,111575|2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926362
[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:17:675 (17675|1) - until 00:18:125 plz plz
00:50:675 (50675|2,51125|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926381
01:51:575 - add 7

ok

Last edited by shionelove 2015-03-24T05:16:53+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-23T16:05:14+00:00

shionelove wrote:
pattern mod
column 1234 1234567
bg ok
mp3
aimod ok

HP&OD
7K normal:HP+1 increased 1
4K Hard&7K Hard:HP +0.5~1 increased 1

[General]
01:51:875 - you have to add because of measure thing
maybe other modes too. added on all mania diffs, taiko is iconed already i don't think there are any issue, i'll recheck for std

[4K Easy]
01:20:675 (80675|2) - move to 2 ok
[4K Normal]
nothing
[4K Hard]
00:17:675 (17675|1) - until 00:18:275 (18275|2) - ? i'm afraid of unrank because of this conflict
01:44:075 (104075|1,106475|2,108875|1) - ^ what do you mean? i don't understand this can you please explain ;w; if its about snapping then its snapped properly already... EDIT: i just realised what you mean, you wanted me to snap that until that position? but the LN is already accurate, the pitch actually ends there, or 1/16 shorter than that, but its weird if i snap it 1/16 shorter, thats why i put it there.
other diffs later

updated thanks

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-03-23T16:54:57+00:00

shionelove wrote:
[General]
01:51:875 - you have to add because of measure thing
maybe other modes too Is it unrankable? I'd understand if I mapped the other diffs as well but I didn't.. I'd like to leave it as it is.

Lazer wrote:
[A's Insane]

00:02:675 (3,1) - Seems like flow error Seems just fine, it goes with the music and flows nicely
00:05:525 (1) - I feel like you should ctrl + j and reposition a bit for flow Actually I like the way the slider (after ctrl+j) goes with the previous slider, changed.
00:10:475 (2) - Move towards left so you can create some sort of triangle also regarding flow Repositioned some stuff..
00:18:725 (2) - I believe this one will have to get removed I don't, but I realised I shouldn't make the slider a bit earlier, so it ends on a beat but there's still 1/8 triplet.
00:23:525 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest making it like this It's nice but I prefer the current one
00:26:375 (3,4) - Ctrl G these two, then Ctrl G 00:26:675 (1) - , and (maybe) make a small upwards curve in the slider I can, but why exactly? The current pattern is better imo.
00:28:625 (4,1) - These two transition into bad flow I don't think the flow was bad but I changed 1 into a slider, it will flow better and follow the music better.
00:58:475 (3) - Ctrl H that one for flow You meant CTRL+G? Because CTRL+H just moves it to the other side of the screen, and even if I reposition it doesn't go well (I prefer the current one over CTRL+G as well)
01:47:825 (4,5) - I would suggest removing these I realised this didn't fit the best and changed pattern a bit.

Thanks~

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lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-24T23:57:12+00:00

shionelove wrote:
pattern mod

[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:17:675 (17675|1) - until 00:18:125 plz plz moved note below it and applied
00:50:675 (50675|2,51125|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926381 ok
01:51:575 - add 7 added 5 instead and moves notes above

ok

Will check later

update

stuff

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schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-25T04:32:16+00:00

shionelove wrote:
pattern mod

[7K Easy]
00:38:375 (38375|3,39575|2,39725|4,39875|6) - move to 3,246 ok
01:49:475 (109475|3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926338 i think ok, though it doesnt really reflect the pitch accurately considering the placement, i accept this due to pattern consideration
[7K Normal]
00:17:675 (17675|5) - compere with 01:44:075 (104075|5) - plz totally forgot that, snapped (only because its normal, no changes for 4K HD on these parts >_<)
make same plz
01:11:075 (71075|1,71075|3) - move to 46 no, this one reflects the pitch accurately (both 2 woodwind sounds, main melody, and the accompaniments, descends on those parts.)
01:30:575 (90575|2,91175|2,91775|2) - delete? ok
01:49:475 (109475|1,109925|2,110375|1,111575|2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926362 ok, though it doesnt really reflect the pitch accurately considering the placement, i accept this due to pattern consideration

EDIT: I made minor adjustment for 7K NM for better hand balance on those part that you mention
01:02:975 - until 01:20:675 -
ok

thanks <3

shionelove

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Joined September 2010

shionelove 2015-03-25T09:05:54+00:00

hitsound mod&some mod
N=Normal,W=Whistle,F=Finish,C=Clap
maybe you made hitsounds carefully and finished check over again because of hard hitsounding,i just check few thing

[4K Easy]
01:51:875 (111875|3) - N
[4K Normal]
01:01:475 (61475|1) - N
01:03:275 (63275|3) - ^
01:03:875 (63875|1) - ^
01:47:075 (107075|1) - F
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
[4K Hard]
00:51:575 (51575|1,51575|2) - add F
01:44:675 (104675|2) - F
01:47:075 (107075|0) - ^
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
01:51:875 (111875|1,111875|0) - delete one note,one note with W is enough i think
[7K Easy]
01:18:275 (78275|1) - change normal-hitfinish.wav(cymbal sound)
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
[7K Normal]
00:20:675 (20675|6) - change cymbal sound
00:26:375 (26375|1) - add note with F
00:39:575 (39575|1) - F
[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:22:625 (22625|4) - N
00:22:775 (22775|3) - F
01:51:875 (111875|4) - change cymbal sound

no kds

schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-25T09:26:17+00:00

shionelove wrote:
hitsound mod&some mod
N=Normal,W=Whistle,F=Finish,C=Clap
maybe you made hitsounds carefully and finished check over again because of hard hitsounding,i just check few thing
not noted = implemented
[4K Easy]
01:51:875 (111875|3) - N
[4K Normal]
01:01:475 (61475|1) - N

01:03:275 (63275|3) - ^
01:03:875 (63875|1) - ^ no to these 2, i use finish on purpose because of the phase change, and also the BG sound beat is becoming louder before the woodwind sets in
01:47:075 (107075|1) - F
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
[4K Hard]
00:51:575 (51575|1,51575|2) - add F umm i originally have 3 notes there, 2 expressing woodwind and guitar, 1 that finish sound, you were the one who suggested me to delete 1, so i deleted 1, and now i don't have finish there... but you suggested me to add F back @_@?
01:44:675 (104675|2) - F
01:47:075 (107075|0) - ^
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
01:51:875 (111875|1,111875|0) - delete one note,one note with W is enough i think
[7K Easy]
01:18:275 (78275|1) - change normal-hitfinish.wav(cymbal sound)
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
[7K Normal]
00:20:675 (20675|6) - change cymbal sound
00:26:375 (26375|1) - add note with F
00:39:575 (39575|1) - F

no kds

shionelove

1,522 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2015-03-25T09:53:35+00:00

shionelove wrote:
hitsound mod&some mod
N=Normal,W=Whistle,F=Finish,C=Clap
maybe you made hitsounds carefully and finished check over again because of hard hitsounding,i just check few thing

[4K Hard]
00:51:575 (51575|1,51575|2) - add F in one,to keep snare rhythm
no kds

sorry for making misunderstanding

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-25T11:46:21+00:00

Grun, I can apply stuff tomorrow. But if you want, since you're way more knowledgable with hitsound comapared to me, you could do the HS mod.

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-25T13:39:57+00:00

shionelove wrote:
shionelove wrote:
hitsound mod&some mod
N=Normal,W=Whistle,F=Finish,C=Clap
maybe you made hitsounds carefully and finished check over again because of hard hitsounding,i just check few thing

[4K Hard]
00:51:575 (51575|1,51575|2) - add F in one,to keep snare rhythm
no kds
sorry for making misunderstanding

added, and also i made minor adjustment for placement to make it balanced
thank you for helping shione-san >_<
実は日本語で書いてが好いですよ。ruberusuさんも私に日本語でmodをするのですよ～

Frim4503

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Joined July 2013

Frim4503 2015-03-26T03:42:35+00:00

col:1,2,3,4,5,6,7

Lenfried's 7K Hard

00:48:575 - add note. make it double same as 00:47:375 (47375|1,47375|3,47975|4,47975|1) -
00:50:375 - add note to 7
00:50:975 - ^ 4
00:56:375 - ^ 6
00:56:675 - ^ 6
01:01:775 (61775|3) - remove
01:33:875 - add note
01:34:475 - ^
01:44:075 - ^
01:46:475 - ^
01:48:875 - ^
01:50:975 - ^
01:51:275 - ^

7K Normal

00:26:675 (26675|4) - remove
00:28:175 - add note make it double.
00:30:575 - ^
00:32:975 - ^
00:33:575 - ^
00:34:175 - ^
00:36:575 - ^
00:37:775 - ^
00:41:375 - ^
00:44:975 - ^
00:47:375 - ^
00:49:775 - ^
00:50:975 - add double note
00:52:175 - ^
00:52:775 - ^
00:53:375 - ^
00:54:575 - ^
00:55:175 - ^
00:55:775 - ^
00:56:975 - ^
00:59:375 - ^
00:59:975 - ^
01:00:575 - ^
01:01:175 - ^
01:30:575 - ^
01:31:175 - ^
01:32:975 - ^
01:31:775 - ^
01:33:575 - ^
01:34:175 - ^
01:35:375 - ^
01:37:775 - ^
01:38:975 - ^
^^^^^^^^^^please thin it again about this mod. because it's like You are not consistent. sometime you use single note, sometime you use double note, just for same sound. what are trying for ?

please reply before
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schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-26T10:23:43+00:00

Frim4503 wrote:

col:1,2,3,4,5,6,7

7K Normal
00:26:675 (26675|4) - remove
00:28:175 - add note make it double.
00:30:575 - ^
00:32:975 - ^
00:33:575 - ^
00:34:175 - ^
00:36:575 - ^
00:37:775 - ^
00:41:375 - ^
00:44:975 - ^
00:47:375 - ^
00:49:775 - ^
00:50:975 - add double note
00:52:175 - ^
00:52:775 - ^
00:53:375 - ^
00:54:575 - ^
00:55:175 - ^
00:55:775 - ^
00:56:975 - ^
00:59:375 - ^
00:59:975 - ^
01:00:575 - ^
01:01:175 - ^
01:30:575 - ^
01:31:175 - ^
01:32:975 - ^
01:31:775 - ^
01:33:575 - ^
01:34:175 - ^
01:35:375 - ^
01:37:775 - ^
01:38:975 - ^
^^^^^^^^^^please thin it again about this mod. because it's like You are not consistent. sometime you use single note, sometime you use double note, just for same sound. what are trying for ?

made adjustment and add 1 note on the red line, and no to the rest. i only use 1 if there is sustained LN, this is normal, i don't want to overuse 3 notes.
i use 2 notes to express those strong beat at red lines whenever possible (if there is no LN)
my placing is consistent, i have pitched instrument hitsound, that's why some parts at white line are also using 2 notes, because there is pitched instrument that i expressed using short notes.
this is a slow / peaceful song, it's more appropriate to also incorporate the melody.
thanks for your mods <3

please reply before
expired 26/4/2015

all diffs, and lenfried's diff updated.

shionelove

1,522 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2015-03-26T14:05:44+00:00

recheck and nothing
piano

btw

schwarzvgrune wrote:
Frim4503 wrote:

col:1,2,3,4,5,6,7

7K Normal
00:26:675 (26675|4) - remove
00:28:175 - add note make it double.
00:30:575 - ^
00:32:975 - ^
00:33:575 - ^
00:34:175 - ^
00:36:575 - ^
00:37:775 - ^
00:41:375 - ^
00:44:975 - ^
00:47:375 - ^
00:49:775 - ^
00:50:975 - add double note
00:52:175 - ^
00:52:775 - ^
00:53:375 - ^
00:54:575 - ^
00:55:175 - ^
00:55:775 - ^
00:56:975 - ^
00:59:375 - ^
00:59:975 - ^
01:00:575 - ^
01:01:175 - ^
01:30:575 - ^
01:31:175 - ^
01:32:975 - ^
01:31:775 - ^
01:33:575 - ^
01:34:175 - ^
01:35:375 - ^
01:37:775 - ^
01:38:975 - ^
^^^^^^^^^^please thin it again about this mod. because it's like You are not consistent. sometime you use single note, sometime you use double note, just for same sound. what are trying for ?

made adjustment and add 1 note on the red line, and no to the rest. i only use 1 if there is sustained LN, this is normal, i don't want to overuse 3 notes.
i use 2 notes to express those strong beat at red lines whenever possible (if there is no LN)
my placing is consistent, i have pitched instrument hitsound, that's why some parts at white line are also using 2 notes, because there is pitched instrument that i expressed using short notes.
this is a slow / peaceful song, it's more appropriate to also incorporate the melody.
thanks for your mods <3

please reply before
expired 26/4/2015
all diffs, and lenfried's diff updated.

you didn't change everything?if so,i should deny kudos

schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-26T15:41:15+00:00

thank you for the icon >_<

meii18

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Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-03-26T21:19:34+00:00

:3

Last edited by meii18 2015-03-28T00:00:52+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

lenpai

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Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-27T01:53:28+00:00

Frim4503 wrote:

col:1,2,3,4,5,6,7

Lenfried's 7K Hard
00:48:575 - add note. make it double same as 00:47:375 (47375|1,47375|3,47975|4,47975|1) - won't do four noters in sections like this
00:50:375 - add note to 7 ^
00:50:975 - ^ 4 special case, not literally a four noter but a gracenote comes after this snap
00:56:375 - ^ 6 Although I break the pattern sometimes, it applies here where 3 notes are present only after every two red lines
00:56:675 - ^ 6 I try avoiding triples for whites
01:01:775 (61775|3) - remove ^2
01:33:875 - add note
01:34:475 - ^
01:44:075 - ^
01:46:475 - ^
01:48:875 - ^
01:50:975 - ^
01:51:275 - ^
the rest of the rejected "add note" are covered by the last few things I said
[/box]

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Just checking.

no update

wow grun you did the HS mod thx!

schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-27T10:53:09+00:00

Lenfried- wrote:
Just checking.

no update

wow grun you did the HS mod thx!

yes, and i was so busy that i forgot to tell you that i did those ;w; so sorry about that >_<
i was online to recheck the diffs and went offline again.
let's see where this go ;w;

hehe

1,969 posts

Joined November 2012

hehe 2015-04-03T11:24:33+00:00

hi, late sorry.

General

would be nicer to see consistent combo colours on all 3 standard diffs/
Lazer's Normal
i really suggest sticking to 1 SV, and 1 DS. map looks too messy right now.
00:02:675 (3) - could be a regular 1/2 slider instead? to follow the music better. removing 00:02:975 (4) - is the main point since it has no sound.
00:09:875 (2) - delete this, it has no purpose.
00:10:775 (1) - would make much more sense as a repeat slider to follow 1/4s.
00:13:175 (4) - nc, new measure.
00:15:875 (1,2) - 00:18:275 (1,2) - bad polarity, player has to play a 3/4 rhythm spacing, hard to read. also bad DS. i suggest: http://i.imgur.com/U93ohPX.png
00:24:875 (6) - you can make slider, its bad to have too many circles in a row, confusing.
00:27:275 (3) - 1/2 slider, since focus is on guitar, not percussion.
sorry but this difficulty still requires much more attention and signifcant remap before it can be considered for ranking. apart from the points discussed previously, take these points in mind:
1. focus on one audio track (percussion or guitar?), switching between them constantly is downright confusing, like: 00:35:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - what is this
2. use more of the playfield, now its really underutilized: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2967248
3. get more experience, usage of current patterns is very lackluster and could be improved. study other maps works best.
4. strictly follow DS, this is a must, its a normal difficulty.
5. work on more consistency with same sounds in the pattern. its fine to vary a bit but make sure all important beats are emphasised adequately.
Lazer's Hard
same points as above, and don't do gimmicky stuff like: 00:21:875 (5,6,1,2,3) - in a Hard, its too confusing.
00:25:475 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - still very inconsistent switching in audio tracks, very hard to follow rhythm.

A's Insane
00:03:125 (1) - 00:05:525 (1) - 00:14:225 (1) - inadequate emphasis on the obvious loud guitar strum. its on a sliderend.
00:11:525 (1,2,1) - well i see wht you're trying but they aren't lined up right
00:15:875 (1,2,3) - i see no reason for ending on 1/8. especially if you have to silence the sliderends. sure its an extended sound, but regular sliders are fine. in fact even if you want to keep them, don't silence the ends, its VERY awkward to play since 'echoing' hitsounds that aren't directly at the 5% part will be reduced in volume as well.
00:18:800 (2,1) - odd spacing here.
somewhat of the same issues with the other difficulties, with both the loud guitar and percussion in the background, you're constantly switching between them with no actual sense put into it. especially with an Insane where DS can vary, you're not using many reading tools that can help the players deduce the rhythm at hand. let's start with this section 00:25:475 -
- 00:25:475 - first off loud guitar is on sliderend. a w k w a r d
1. 00:26:675 (1,2,3) - guitar is adquately followed here, good job.
2. 00:28:325 (2,3,4) - switching to percussion when no loud guitar, this is fine.
3. 00:32:975 - things go bad from here, sliderend on guitar strum AND percussion clap.
4. 00:33:575 (4) - no emphasis on a clap, but just a random pattern.
5. 00:34:175 - here as well.
6. 00:35:975 (3) - focusing on percussion when there is a loud guitar strum, no emphasis.
7. 00:37:475 (2,3,4,1) - here as well.
to summarize, all standard difficulties, although yes, thoroughly modded(?), still lack in quality. in fact they cannot be considered for ranking at all. without significant reworking existing issues will still persist no matter how many mods you get. the comments in the Normal generally summarize my thoughts on how this could be improved.

good luck, you can PM me for any questions.

Avishay

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Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-04-03T12:29:50+00:00

handsome wrote:
hi, late sorry.

A's Insane
00:03:125 (1) - 00:05:525 (1) - 00:14:225 (1) - inadequate emphasis on the obvious loud guitar strum. its on a sliderend. And what's the point? They play and sound just fine.
00:11:525 (1,2,1) - well i see wht you're trying but they aren't lined up right When did it say they were supposed to be lined up?
00:15:875 (1,2,3) - i see no reason for ending on 1/8. especially if you have to silence the sliderends. sure its an extended sound, but regular sliders are fine. in fact even if you want to keep them, don't silence the ends, its VERY awkward to play since 'echoing' hitsounds that aren't directly at the 5% part will be reduced in volume as well. The slider ends 5% exists because I do not want the hitsounds to play. This pattern emphasizes the start of every slider, which is the start of every new strong sound in the music. It is not possible to create sliders without ends, I want the sliders to be like one slider that is cut into 3 sections, without hearing the end of each section, becasue there isn't.
00:18:800 (2,1) - odd spacing here. Not really.. It is a full beat on 200 bpm, pretty easy to read and plays nicely.
somewhat of the same issues with the other difficulties, with both the loud guitar and percussion in the background, you're constantly switching between them with no actual sense put into it. especially with an Insane where DS can vary, you're not using many reading tools that can help the players deduce the rhythm at hand. let's start with this section 00:25:475 -
00:25:475 - first off loud guitar is on sliderend. a w k w a r d Why awkward? Is every strong beat awkward on a sliderend? I don't think so..
00:26:675 (1,2,3) - guitar is adquately followed here, good job.
00:28:325 (2,3,4) - switching to percussion when no loud guitar, this is fine.
00:32:975 - things go bad from here, sliderend on guitar strum AND percussion clap. Right, changed.
00:33:575 (4) - no emphasis on a clap, but just a random pattern. Changed.
00:34:175 - here as well. Chagned whole pattern.
00:35:975 (3) - focusing on percussion when there is a loud guitar strum, no emphasis. Loud? No, that's not loud..
00:37:475 (2,3,4,1) - here as well. I follow both here and I think it is just fine.
to summarize, all standard difficulties, although yes, thoroughly modded(?), still lack in quality. in fact they cannot be considered for ranking at all. without significant reworking existing issues will still persist no matter how many mods you get. the comments in the Normal generally summarize my thoughts on how this could be improved.
good luck, you can PM me for any questions.

Thanks.

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Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-04-03T20:35:51+00:00

handsome wrote:

Lazer's Normal
i really suggest sticking to 1 SV, and 1 DS. map looks too messy right now. All set to DS 1/SV 1
00:02:675 (3) - could be a regular 1/2 slider instead? to follow the music better. removing 00:02:975 (4) - is the main point since it has no sound. Removed
00:09:875 (2) - delete this, it has no purpose. Removed
00:10:775 (1) - would make much more sense as a repeat slider to follow 1/4s. Applied
00:13:175 (4) - nc, new measure. Made new combo
00:15:875 (1,2) - 00:18:275 (1,2) - bad polarity, player has to play a 3/4 rhythm spacing, hard to read. also bad DS. i suggest: http://i.imgur.com/U93ohPX.png You're right, changed
00:24:875 (6) - you can make slider, its bad to have too many circles in a row, confusing. Made a slider
00:27:275 (3) - 1/2 slider, since focus is on guitar, not percussion.
sorry but this difficulty still requires much more attention and signifcant remap before it can be considered for ranking. apart from the points discussed previously, take these points in mind:
focus on one audio track (percussion or guitar?), switching between them constantly is downright confusing, like: 00:35:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - what is this
use more of the playfield, now its really underutilized: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2967248
get more experience, usage of current patterns is very lackluster and could be improved. study other maps works best.
strictly follow DS, this is a must, its a normal difficulty.
work on more consistency with same sounds in the pattern. its fine to vary a bit but make sure all important beats are emphasised adequately.
Lazer's Hard
same points as above, and don't do gimmicky stuff like: 00:21:875 (5,6,1,2,3) - in a Hard, its too confusing. Alright...
00:25:475 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - still very inconsistent switching in audio tracks, very hard to follow rhythm. I don't find it hard to follow at all

Entire normal re-mapped, once more.

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Alarido

1,744 posts

Joined September 2012

Alarido 2015-04-04T15:01:20+00:00

Let's do it right NOW !!!

[General]
Need confirmation about metadata.

About Source, there's an "Iris" you forgot to add after "Athelier".

About song(Artist + Title). Googled a bit and found there's a *fluffy* in the title between "the" and "Workshop" (acording to this site). Not sure yet. I'll be asking there.

:asking-for-meta:

[Insane]
Hitsounds feel good.
Rhythms a bit odd for me, since it follows mostly the guitar, which is very uncommon in osu (or, at least, for me).

* Why not use the same combo colours (including amount) as like as Normal and Hard uses?

01:21:125 (3,4,5) - Triplet a bit unreasonable, even with feint/weak/overlapped sounds in backs. Try to delete the middle note (4), so you can make it a duplet or with some spacing between (3,5). A duplet feels more recommended.

01:21:425 (6) - If you don't want remove a triplet from the map, here's a good place for a triplet.

01:37:475 (6,1) - Spacing here feels a bit misleading -- unless it fits some purpose. But let's it get forth.

[Lazer's Hard]
♥ Nothing felt bad. and Hitsound still good.

[Lazer's Normal]

Spacing here is a bit variable (from 0.45x on 01:25:175 (4,1) - up to 1.22x on 01:06:275 (2,3) - O_O), especially for a diff that's intended to be the easier-of-the-mapset. Please check it through, deep and carefully.
00:10:775 (1,2,3) - This rhythm feels a bit misleading. It looks more alike this pic below:

00:37:475 (1,3) - A bit overlapping one each other. Nothing so terrible, just something a bit not-so-pleasant-to-the-eyes.
00:51:875 (1,3) - The (3) gets a bit (or a lot?) obfuscated under the (1)'s head. It may be not so readable as a Normal is required to be.
01:30:875 (4,5) - This part of the rhythm feels misleaded too >< Suggest below:

That's all for the Std diffs.

Clearly, Normal diff need some more improvements.

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-04T15:16:29+00:00

Alarido wrote:
Let's do it right NOW !!!

[General]
Need confirmation about metadata.

About Source, there's an "Iris" you forgot to add after "Athelier".

About song(Artist + Title). Googled a bit and found there's a *fluffy* in the title between "the" and "Workshop" (acording to this site). Not sure yet. I'll be asking there.
:asking-for-meta:

Hi, I have asked RuberusuScarlet to do the metadata.
our current metadata is correct. the link that you sent to me is actually a soundtrack for another game called "Mana Khemia, Alchemist of Al-Revis"
this game is ‘Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm“
http://vgmdb.net/album/9860
track 06 for the info.
as to why i only put Nakagawa Ken on the artist name, this is because for this song only Nakagawa Ken contributes (they have artist information for each sountrack.) and I have the full album data.
thank you for rechecking the metadata >_<
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING WITH THIS ;w; I WILL DO MY BEST WITH THE OTHER GDERS AS WELL! >_<

and about the source, it seems that its an error on my part! i'll fix it asap!

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-04-04T15:25:51+00:00

Alarido wrote:
[Lazer's Hard]
♥ Nothing felt bad. and Hitsound still good. ♥

[Lazer's Normal]
Spacing here is a bit variable (from 0.45x on 01:25:175 (4,1) - up to 1.22x on 01:06:275 (2,3) - O_O), especially for a diff that's intended to be the easier-of-the-mapset. Please check it through, deep and carefully. My bad, I've fixed it
00:10:775 (1,2,3) - This rhythm feels a bit misleading. It looks more alike this pic below: Changed it
00:37:475 (1,3) - A bit overlapping one each other. Nothing so terrible, just something a bit not-so-pleasant-to-the-eyes. I've made them different
00:51:875 (1,3) - The (3) gets a bit (or a lot?) obfuscated under the (1)'s head. It may be not so readable as a Normal is required to be. Made 4 obfuscate under (1) for more readability
01:30:875 (4,5) - This part of the rhythm feels misleaded too >< Suggest below: Changed

That's all for the Std diffs.

Clearly, Normal diff need some more improvements.

Heh, I'm not the best normal mapper- I try though~!

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: 107 Welcome to the Workshop!.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 61475
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
TitleUnicode:Welcome to the Workshop!
Artist:Nakagawa Ken
ArtistUnicode:中河 健
Creator:schwarzvgrune
Version:Lazer's Normal
Source:Atelier III - Grand Phantasm
Tags:Gust NIS Daisuke Achiwa Avishay Nardoxyribonucleic Lazer ikin5050 Lenfried-
BeatmapID:614485
BeatmapSetID:177709

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.3
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:2

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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//Storyboard Sound Samples

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schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-04T15:59:28+00:00

i have self-confirmed the metadata through the following sources.
english = http://vgmdb.net/album/9860
japanese = http://www21.atwiki.jp/gamemusicbest100/pages/1514.html

please redl all of the diffs for finalised metadata.

meii18

3,577 posts

Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-04-04T18:26:19+00:00

Why Alarido placed a star icon ? This map was taiko'd and piano'd o_O

Kyubey

osu! Alumni

3,097 posts

Joined December 2012

Kyubey 2015-04-04T18:34:40+00:00

Because they can.

meii18

3,577 posts

Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-04-04T20:50:45+00:00

Kyubey wrote:
Because they can.

I know but this map was taiko'd and piano'd and the next icon should be the bubble

Alarido

1,744 posts

Joined September 2012

Alarido 2015-04-04T21:00:33+00:00

Finally, they answered me about metadata (Lanturn):

Lanturn wrote:
Welcome to the Workshop:
http://www.team-e.co.jp/products/kdsd-10015-16.html
Track 7.

Title: 工房にいらっしゃい！
R.Title: Koubou ni Irashai!
E.Title: Welcome to the Workshop! (Can't find any official prints of this track though http://vgmdb.net/album/9860 says it exists though.)

Add welcome to the workshop in the tags.

Source:イリスのアトリエグランファンタズム
Atelier no Iris Grand Phantasm Fantasm <-- tags similar to the source.

Artist is correct.

Edit:

[Lazer's Normal]
* Some variation around 0.1~0.6 on spacings may be tolerated, although the recommended is keep spacings safe.

00:17:375 (2,3) - To avoid confusion, would make it like { http://puu.sh/h1C7f/b08290a794.jpg }, which means: 00:17:375 (2) - on x:144 y:328 and 00:17:675 (3) - on x:112 y:256.
01:23:075 (1,2) - There's a jump (1.86x surrounded by 1.0x) here (probably because you moved the slider without moving the note (2) together. Moving 01:24:275 (2) - to x:376 y:104 may help fix thing here.
01:41:075 (2) - Move to x:136 y:320 to fix spacing (it was 1.14x for the next object);
01:46:475 (4) - Move to x:328 y:232 to fix spacing (it was 1.20x for the next object);

Call me back (:

Last edited by Alarido 2015-04-04T21:39:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Lally

3,177 posts

Joined December 2011

Lally 2015-04-04T21:21:42+00:00

Kyubey wrote:
Because they can.

the icons are not something official just the bubble and qualify heart is it,and a star is the interestment to the mapset from a BN,so i don't see nothing wrong here o3o

nice mapset o3o!!

meii18

3,577 posts

Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-04-04T21:33:30+00:00

Lally wrote:
the icons are not something official just the bubble and qualify heart is it,and a star is the interestment to the mapset from a BN,so i don't see nothing wrong here o3o

I comfirmed this with a qat which is gmt now http://puu.sh/h1BQc/0bbb555442.jpg

Alarido

1,744 posts

Joined September 2012

Alarido 2015-04-04T21:41:28+00:00

Updated post at https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4020277

Would like to see Larto and buraimaster1234 mapping and modding actively nowadays

EDIT: Just waiting for the Lazer fix some wrongdoings at Normal diff. And for mapset owner to update the mapset.

Last edited by Alarido 2015-04-05T01:55:35+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Lally

3,177 posts

Joined December 2011

Lally 2015-04-04T23:57:09+00:00

would be so nice to see them around ;_____;
I personally would like to see somebody acting less as a QAT wich is not o3o *closes offtopic*

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,532 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2015-04-05T01:48:08+00:00

Seriously just stop it. http://puu.sh/h09eW.jpg

2015-04-03 20:55 neonat: specific mode icons don't really mean anything?
2015-04-03 20:57 Garven: Not anymore, but I guess it can give approval to a certain game mode if youre unfamiliar

I'm pretty sure he will be giving the bubble himself, so just give it a freaking rest what he does before the actual bubble itself, it's not like he overrules the approval of the other modes, as I don't see him stating that, they still stand legit.

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-04-05T02:04:55+00:00

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: 107 Welcome to the Workshop!.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 61475
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
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WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
TitleUnicode:Welcome to the Workshop!
Artist:Nakagawa Ken
ArtistUnicode:中河 健
Creator:schwarzvgrune
Version:Lazer's Normal
Source:Atelier III - Grand Phantasm
Tags:Gust NIS Daisuke Achiwa Avishay Nardoxyribonucleic Lazer ikin5050 Lenfried-
BeatmapID:614485
BeatmapSetID:-1

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OverallDifficulty:4
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Applied everything in Alarido's mod.

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-05T03:51:36+00:00

Alarido wrote:
Finally, they answered me about metadata (Lanturn):

Lanturn wrote:
Welcome to the Workshop:
http://www.team-e.co.jp/products/kdsd-10015-16.html
Track 7.

Title: 工房にいらっしゃい！
R.Title: Koubou ni Irashai!
E.Title: Welcome to the Workshop! (Can't find any official prints of this track though http://vgmdb.net/album/9860 says it exists though.)
Hi, the metadata that you suggest is taken from the Japanese original CD. they have 2 version (english ver released by NIS America) and original Japanese version released by Gust. This is why I am using Japanese name for the title, but using the english name for the Romanised Title because the version that i have is actually taken from the english released track. is there any ways to keep the metadata as it is?
Add welcome to the workshop in the tags.

Source:イリスのアトリエグランファンタズム again, same issue with above. this data is taken from the english-released soundtrack version in which case the name should be in english, and this is why on the tags i added the japanese name instead イリスのアトリエグランファンタズム
Atelier no Iris Grand Phantasm Fantasm <-- tags similar to the source.
Artist is correct.

Call me back (:

edit: i asked lanturn about this and he said as long as i cannot find the official sources then i guess i cannot justify the english title of the track >_<

Lanturn wrote:
... The only thing I can't prove is the Welcome to the Workshop! title as I can't find any official source...

Also. You should NOT be taking suggestions from the Beatmap Management page until it is posted in your thread OR sent via PM/IRC to you. This allows the BN to double-check and get conformation before doing anything.

I'm so sorry for editing before waiting for the BN to confirm, i will wait for the BN now. thank you for telling me and i'm sorry for my mistake ;w;
edit: i updated everything as per the suggestions on the metadata. sorry for the confusion >_<

Lally wrote:
Kyubey wrote:
Because they can.
the icons are not something official just the bubble and qualify heart is it,and a star is the interestment to the mapset from a BN,so i don't see nothing wrong here o3o

nice mapset o3o!!

ByBy_ChAn wrote:
Lally wrote:
the icons are not something official just the bubble and qualify heart is it,and a star is the interestment to the mapset from a BN,so i don't see nothing wrong here o3o
I comfirmed this with a qat which is gmt now http://puu.sh/h1BQc/0bbb555442.jpg

idk why it suddenly get crowded with BNs chattering but thank you for your all of your help >_<

EDIT: LAZER'S DIFF ALL UPDATED
metadata also updated as per the last BN's post confirmation. sorry for the confusion o(>﹏<)o
waiting for avishay's now >_<

Lanturn

osu! Alumni

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Joined March 2012

Lanturn 2015-04-05T04:57:19+00:00

I made a mistake in the romanization. my bad >_<

Irashai! -> Irasshai!

also talked about metadata via IRC about some other things like the source / Artist / title.

Source: イリスのアトリエ～グランファンタズム～
btw. That still needs a quick change.
http://www.gust.jp/lineup/index.htm

schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-05T05:42:14+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
I made a mistake in the romanization. my bad >_<

Irashai! -> Irasshai!

also talked about metadata via IRC about some other things like the source / Artist / title.

Source: イリスのアトリエ～グランファンタズム～
btw. That still needs a quick change.
http://www.gust.jp/lineup/index.htm

thanks updated >_<b

PatZar

3,079 posts

Joined March 2013

PatZar 2015-04-05T06:08:33+00:00

a the drum replaced with star :\

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-04-05T09:18:31+00:00

Alarido wrote:
Let's do it right NOW !!!

[Insane]
Hitsounds feel good.
Rhythms a bit odd for me, since it follows mostly the guitar, which is very uncommon in osu (or, at least, for me).

* Why not use the same combo colours (including amount) as like as Normal and Hard uses? Because I prefer those :3 As my unique diff colors

01:21:125 (3,4,5) - Triplet a bit unreasonable, even with feint/weak/overlapped sounds in backs. Try to delete the middle note (4), so you can make it a duplet or with some spacing between (3,5). A duplet feels more recommended. Changed.

01:21:425 (6) - If you don't want remove a triplet from the map, here's a good place for a triplet. I think a triplet fits perfectly with the new pattern I made here, not a slider reverse.

01:37:475 (6,1) - Spacing here feels a bit misleading -- unless it fits some purpose. But let's it get forth. The purpose was to create a triangle with 3 and 6, but I guess it is not really worth the weird spacing change, moved.

Thank you~

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schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-05T11:42:37+00:00

all updated!

Alarido

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Alarido 2015-04-05T17:12:32+00:00

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Avishay

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Avishay 2015-04-05T17:18:58+00:00

Wooho!

Rumia-

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Rumia- 2015-04-05T21:42:39+00:00

still id say this should be popped because the mania quality is really lack of by lot
i certainly wont let this pass at its current state
also advice for your maps in the future :
in lower diff , please do not focus on more than a single instrument , pick the unique one such as guitar/piano or other lead instruments
drums and bass are optional they are for intersection between lead instrument if they repeats to give variation in term of playing
arent necessary to map them along with the lead one . it is okay for you to focus on both drums and lead in harder difficulties

7key reference : 1234567

[7K Easy]

Guideline wrote:
Life Drain rate is suggested to be at least 7 or higher to get same HP drain rate in IIDX.

Guidelines are important and should be followed in most maps. However, they are NOT rules, so they may be broken in special cases. but i dont see this as any special case , so follow it.

00:00:725 (725|4) - 1/4 notes arent meant for any easy diffs in all game mode , beginner will always find it hard to read 1/4s , no matter how slow the song is
please move this keysound to SB note if you still want to keep it , and delete this object
suggesting the pattern to be like this http://puu.sh/h2GOV.jpg , according to the guitar pitch
00:02:525 (2525|3) - the same thing
00:10:925 (10925|3) - ^
00:13:325 (13325|4) - ^
00:26:525 (26525|3) - ^
00:32:375 (32375|3,32675|4) - suggest to move 1 column right so it would be easier to play without hitting the space bar
00:34:925 (34925|3) - same as previous
00:39:725 (39725|3) - ^
00:45:725 (45725|2) - ^
00:54:125 (54125|3) - ^
01:24:125 (84125|2) - ^
01:32:525 (92525|3) - ^
01:37:325 (97325|4) - ^
00:42:575 (42575|6,43775|4,44375|3) - i'd highly suggest for you to delete this note to give some space for beginner to react,
also would increase some instrument focus at this point.
00:47:075 (47075|5,47975|6,48275|5) - this pattern is kinda hard for beginner to press and release while having another note on the other column that lays on a single hand
suggesting 00:48:275 (48275|5) - to be place on the left hand side , 3 would be nice
00:57:575 (57575|3) - move it to 3 would make a nice pattern

[7K Normal]
00:00:275 (275|5,575|6,725|4,875|3,1175|0) - this pattern is really hard for normal , maybe change 00:00:275 (275|5,875|3,1175|0) - to normal note at least
00:01:475 (1475|2) - suggest to move this to 4th column and 00:02:375 (2375|1,2525|3) - to 1st and 3rd column for better pattern
00:08:675 (8675|4) - this note should be stopped at 00:09:875 - instead
00:15:875 (15875|6) - 3 note is really hard for normal diff , should be 2 note is enough , along with the LN here would make it even harder
00:17:375 (17375|2) - its kinda crampy here so i would suggest to delete this , besides its better to focus on 1 instrument in lower difficulties for players to focus on instrument that is highlighted
00:19:775 (19775|4) - ^
00:21:275 (21275|0,22475|0) - please give some breaks for player to read , i know there is a sound here but as for this difficulty its not really necessary to constantly focus on every 1/2 beat , beside you only map it repeatedly , so its better to give some variation here
00:23:675 (23675|0,24875|0) - ^
00:26:375 (26375|5) - better to focus on single instrument here as well ,looks too crampy , delete this
00:26:975 (26975|5,26975|6,27275|4,27575|1,27575|2) - highly suggest you to follow the guitar only as highlight , u can even put it as 2 notes each to highlight the guitar like this http://puu.sh/h2Is6.jpg would be a lot nicer
00:28:175 (28175|2,28775|2) - also this note arent necessary to focus , it would be nice in Hard diffs , but not for normal
00:29:375 (29375|1,29375|3) - as i said previously , highlight on guitar , delete this
00:31:925 (31925|5) - if you are highlighting the guitar here , better extend this to 00:32:375 - and delete 00:32:075 (32075|4) - instead
00:32:375 (32375|2,32675|4,32975|2,33575|3,34175|2) - i think this could be work like this http://puu.sh/h2IMb.jpg for better hand balancing and more organised structure
00:34:775 (34775|5) - dont focus on the drums , it look really messy
00:35:375 (35375|6,35375|5,35675|1) - ^ , i dont mind if you want to double 00:35:525 (35525|3) - note , would also work better
00:36:275 (36275|4,36875|4) - also not suggested to catch , note like this would work better http://puu.sh/h2J0F.jpg
00:37:925 (37925|4) - since here you focus on drums , delete this 00:37:925 (37925|4,39725|5) - would work better
00:40:775 - as for this section i suggest you to catch guitar only for friendly rhythm pick . something like http://puu.sh/h2JcD.jpg
00:42:875 (42875|5,43475|1,44075|5) - maybe delete this one too , would be much nicer to focus on the snare instead
00:46:175 (46175|5,46175|2) - again , please focus on the guitar , it felt weird with double notes without the guitar sound
00:48:575 (48575|3,48575|6) - ^
00:50:375 (50375|3,50675|1,51125|5,51575|3) - this kind of pattern is really hard with LN , please move this to SB note and let the LN only on the field
00:53:975 (53975|1) - dont need to focus on this note
00:54:575 (54575|0,54575|5,54875|4) - delete this and add another note at 00:54:725 - instead
00:56:975 (56975|5,56975|4,57275|0) - suggest to delete this and focus on the guitar instead , something like this http://puu.sh/h2JDa.jpg is better imo
00:58:175 (58175|6,58175|3,58775|6,58775|3) - delete
01:02:075 (62075|3) - suggest to delete to give some space , also would feel nice when playing
01:02:975 (62975|1,63275|2,63575|3) - double LNs are hard for lower difficulties , you should remove this one and move the keysound to SB
01:03:875 (63875|4,64775|3) - suggesting this to be placed like this for hand balancing http://puu.sh/h2K3X.jpg
01:05:675 (65675|5,65675|2,65975|6,65975|3) - move this 1 column left ,the pitch is not the same ,doesnt suit the feeling of playing
01:04:775 - passing this section , you used too much LNs would be abusive for normal difficulties
change these to normal note as for better solution :
01:05:675 (65675|2,65675|5) -
01:08:075 (68075|6,68075|3,68375|2,68375|5) -
01:09:875 (69875|3,69875|6,70325|5,70325|2,70775|1,70775|4) -
01:15:275 (75275|0,75275|4,75575|5,75575|1) -
01:17:375 (77375|3,77375|0,77675|1,77675|4,77975|2,77975|5) -

01:30:275 (90275|6,90875|6,91475|6,92075|6) - not necessary to be focused on , 01:30:575 (90575|1,91175|3,91775|1) - these are sufficient enough
01:32:375 (92375|4,92375|1,92525|5,92675|3,92675|6,92975|5,92975|0,93125|2,93275|4) - think about it on my previous mentions
01:35:525 (95525|4) - either u focus on guitar or drum , at this point
01:39:125 (99125|5) - ^
01:42:275 - this part onward maybe i can let pass for last part to be highlighted , previous parts are nope nope

[7k Hard]
00:01:625 (1625|0,2225|0) - this note is ghost notes, they dont have sound , i dont appreciate notes like this , remove
00:04:025 (4025|1,4625|1,4925|1) -
00:05:375 (5375|0,6425|1) -
00:07:025 - add a note here , there is a string sound
00:07:625 (7625|4) - delete
00:07:925 (7925|5) - end this note here 00:08:225 - and add a note for strings
00:08:825 (8825|1,8975|2,9125|3) - pls , ghosts , a note should be added is only at 00:09:275 -
00:13:625 (13625|0) - delete
00:14:075 (14075|6) - ^
00:14:825 (14825|3) - ^
00:16:775 (16775|3,17675|0) - i dont appreciate inconsistent LN ends
00:20:675 (20675|4,20975|3) - ctrl+g for better pattern
00:21:275 (21275|0,21275|3,21575|1) - suggestion : http://puu.sh/h2LEd.jpg
00:22:475 (22475|1,22475|5,22625|2,22625|4,22775|3,22775|0,22775|6,22925|1,22925|5) - suggested pattern to suit the feel of the percussion : http://puu.sh/h2LNU.jpg
00:23:975 (23975|1,24125|0) - ctrl+g
00:24:875 - pattern suggestion : http://puu.sh/h2LVb.jpg
00:27:425 (27425|2,27725|2) - delete
00:29:825 (29825|1,30125|5) - pls
00:28:925 (28925|3) - ^
00:31:325 (31325|4) - ^
00:32:525 (32525|5) - ^
00:34:625 (34625|2) - ^
00:36:725 - add a note , percussion
00:37:025 (37025|5,37325|5) - delete
00:40:925 (40925|2) - pls
00:41:825 (41825|2,42125|2) - ....
00:42:725 - add a note
00:43:025 - ^
00:44:075 (44075|3,44225|5) - suggestion : http://puu.sh/h2Mpa.jpg
00:46:625 (46625|1,46925|3) -
00:47:825 - add a note
00:50:675 (50675|2,51275|1) - what are this refering to ?
00:55:325 (55325|5) - delete pls
00:56:225 (56225|3) - ^
00:55:925 - add a note here
00:56:525 (56525|4) - delete.
00:57:725 (57725|3) - ^
00:58:625 (58625|6,58925|4) - ^
01:00:125 (60125|4) - should move this to 00:59:525 -
01:01:025 (61025|4,61325|3) - delete ....
01:02:525 (62525|4,62525|2) - ^
01:05:375 (65375|3) - better move this to 7th since no sound is repeating with the next LN
01:11:375 (71375|6) - move this to 4 and 01:11:975 (71975|0) - to 7
01:12:275 (72275|3) - move to 1
01:21:725 - add a note
01:22:025 - ^
01:23:225 (83225|0) - delete
01:23:825 (83825|0) - delete , focus on the guitar 01:23:525 (83525|2) - also extend this to the next redline
01:25:625 (85625|1) - pls
01:25:625 (85625|1,85925|3,86225|1,86525|1,87125|1) - ^
01:28:625 - add a note
01:32:225 (92225|3) - delete
01:32:975 (92975|4) - better not to catch this , it looks unorganised and messy
01:33:875 - add a note
01:34:475 - ^
01:35:975 (95975|4) - should end at 01:36:875 -
01:48:875 (108875|3) - move to 3
01:50:975 - add the drums

this is all for now , i will continue modding it tomorrow with pattern when things are fixed as above

Avishay

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Avishay 2015-04-05T21:46:27+00:00

lenpai

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lenpai 2015-04-06T03:34:05+00:00

Rumia- wrote:
[7k Hard]
00:01:625 (1625|0,2225|0) - this note is ghost notes, they dont have sound , i dont appreciate notes like this , remove not ghost, faint BG guitar mapped
00:04:025 (4025|1,4625|1,4925|1) - ^
00:05:375 (5375|0,6425|1) - ^
00:07:025 - add a note here , there is a string sound deliberated a lot with this but ok since a lot of people pointed it out
00:07:625 (7625|4) - delete ^2
00:07:925 (7925|5) - end this note here ok 00:08:225 - and add a note for strings ok
00:08:825 (8825|1,8975|2,9125|3) - pls , ghosts , same case as rejects above a note should be added is only at 00:09:275 - what sound does this follow? Can't hear stuff
just something, 00:14:513 (14513|3) - removed this ghost
00:13:625 (13625|0) - delete
00:14:075 (14075|6) - ^
00:14:825 (14825|3) - ^ all no^
00:16:775 (16775|3,17675|0) - i dont appreciate inconsistent LN ends fixed
00:20:675 (20675|4,20975|3) - ctrl+g for better pattern ok
00:21:275 (21275|0,21275|3,21575|1) - suggestion : http://puu.sh/h2LEd.jpg ok
00:22:475 (22475|1,22475|5,22625|2,22625|4,22775|3,22775|0,22775|6,22925|1,22925|5) - suggested pattern to suit the feel of the percussion : http://puu.sh/h2LNU.jpg nice but did something else
00:23:975 (23975|1,24125|0) - ctrl+g ok
00:24:875 - pattern suggestion : http://puu.sh/h2LVb.jpg mmmm no but i changed to pattern for finger balance
00:27:425 (27425|2,27725|2) - delete
00:29:825 (29825|1,30125|5) - pls
00:28:925 (28925|3) - ^
00:31:325 (31325|4) - ^
00:32:525 (32525|5) - ^
00:34:625 (34625|2) - ^
00:36:725 - add a note , percussion
00:37:025 (37025|5,37325|5) - delete
00:40:925 (40925|2) - pls
00:41:825 (41825|2,42125|2) - ....
00:42:725 - add a note
00:43:025 - ^
00:44:075 (44075|3,44225|5) - suggestion : http://puu.sh/h2Mpa.jpg
00:46:625 (46625|1,46925|3) -
00:47:825 - add a note ^all applied
00:50:675 (50675|2,51275|1) - what are this refering to ? flute + guitar
00:55:325 (55325|5) - delete pls
00:56:225 (56225|3) - ^
00:55:925 - add a note here
00:56:525 (56525|4) - delete.
00:57:725 (57725|3) - ^
00:58:625 (58625|6,58925|4) - ^
01:00:125 (60125|4) - should move this to 00:59:525 -
01:01:025 (61025|4,61325|3) - delete ....
01:02:525 (62525|4,62525|2) - ^
01:05:375 (65375|3) - better move this to 7th since no sound is repeating with the next LN
01:11:375 (71375|6) - move this to 4 and 01:11:975 (71975|0) - to 7
01:12:275 (72275|3) - move to 1 ^all ok
01:21:725 - add a note
01:22:025 - ^ i prefer this section to stay simple
01:23:225 (83225|0) - delete weak guitar
01:23:825 (83825|0) - delete , focus on the guitar 01:23:525 (83525|2) - also extend this to the next redline ok
01:25:625 (85625|1) - pls moved
01:25:625 (85625|1,85925|3,86225|1,86525|1,87125|1) - ^ noep
01:28:625 - add a note no because i didnt map percussion or drums or whatever that is called in this section
01:32:225 (92225|3) - delete ok
01:32:975 (92975|4) - better not to catch this , it looks unorganised and messy resolved but added note at start of LN
01:33:875 - add a note
01:34:475 - ^
01:35:975 (95975|4) - should end at 01:36:875 -
01:48:875 (108875|3) - move to 3
01:50:975 - add the drums all ok^

this is all for now , i will continue modding it tomorrow with pattern when things are fixed as above

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schwarzvgrune

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Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-06T06:16:12+00:00

[7K Easy]

Guideline wrote:
Life Drain rate is suggested to be at least 7 or higher to get same HP drain rate in IIDX.

Guidelines are important and should be followed in most maps. However, they are NOT rules, so they may be broken in special cases. but i dont see this as any special case , so follow it.
this map spread contains a lot of LNs, which is why i put the OD lower. but in any case i have increased this to 7 as suggested

00:00:725 (725|4) - 1/4 notes arent meant for any easy diffs in all game mode , beginner will always find it hard to read 1/4s , no matter how slow the song is
please move this keysound to SB note if you still want to keep it , and delete this object
suggesting the pattern to be like this http://puu.sh/h2GOV.jpg , according to the guitar pitch
00:02:525 (2525|3) - the same thing
00:10:925 (10925|3) - ^
00:13:325 (13325|4) - ^
00:26:525 (26525|3) - ^
00:32:375 (32375|3,32675|4) - suggest to move 1 column right so it would be easier to play without hitting the space bar
00:34:925 (34925|3) - same as previous
00:39:725 (39725|3) - ^
00:45:725 (45725|2) - ^
00:54:125 (54125|3) - ^
01:24:125 (84125|2) - ^
01:32:525 (92525|3) - ^
01:37:325 (97325|4) - ^
00:42:575 (42575|6,43775|4,44375|3) - i'd highly suggest for you to delete this note to give some space for beginner to react,
also would increase some instrument focus at this point.
00:47:075 (47075|5,47975|6,48275|5) - this pattern is kinda hard for beginner to press and release while having another note on the other column that lays on a single hand
suggesting 00:48:275 (48275|5) - to be place on the left hand side , 3 would be nice
00:57:575 (57575|3) - move it to 3 would make a nice pattern

all accepted for Easy! Thanks >w<b

noted = implemented with reason / not implemented with reason / asking for alternative suggestions

[7K Normal]
00:00:275 (275|5,575|6,725|4,875|3,1175|0) - this pattern is really hard for normal , maybe change 00:00:275 (275|5,875|3,1175|0) - to normal note at least
00:01:475 (1475|2) - suggest to move this to 4th column and 00:02:375 (2375|1,2525|3) - to 1st and 3rd column for better pattern
00:08:675 (8675|4) - this note should be stopped at 00:09:875 - instead no, the echo is still there until the point where i stops the LN, so i'd like to keep this one as it is. and this applies to all diffs.
00:15:875 (15875|6) - 3 note is really hard for normal diff , should be 2 note is enough , along with the LN here would make it even harder

00:17:375 (17375|2) - its kinda crampy here so i would suggest to delete this , besides its better to focus on 1 instrument in lower difficulties for players to focus on instrument that is highlighted i revamped the pattern and instead not jack it, I'd like to keep this as it is because it signifies the addition of that tack tack sound, so i'd like to keep this
00:19:775 (19775|4) - ^
00:21:275 (21275|0,22475|0) - please give some breaks for player to read , i know there is a sound here but as for this difficulty its not really necessary to constantly focus on every 1/2 beat , beside you only map it repeatedly , so its better to give some variation here
00:23:675 (23675|0,24875|0) - ^ revamped a bit
00:26:375 (26375|5) - better to focus on single instrument here as well ,looks too crampy , delete this
00:26:975 (26975|5,26975|6,27275|4,27575|1,27575|2) - highly suggest you to follow the guitar only as highlight , u can even put it as 2 notes each to highlight the guitar like this http://puu.sh/h2Is6.jpg would be a lot nicer i will apply this across the whole normal diffs to give emphasis

00:28:175 (28175|2,28775|2) - also this note arent necessary to focus , it would be nice in Hard diffs , but not for normal
keep the first one, so there are 3 notes just like 00:25:475 (25475|6,25775|4,26075|6) -

00:29:375 (29375|1,29375|3) - as i said previously , highlight on guitar , delete this
00:31:925 (31925|5) - if you are highlighting the guitar here , better extend this to 00:32:375 - and delete 00:32:075 (32075|4) - instead
00:32:375 (32375|2,32675|4,32975|2,33575|3,34175|2) - i think this could be work like this http://puu.sh/h2IMb.jpg for better hand balancing and more organised structure
i rearranged the pattern a bit, but i'll need your help to recheck.

00:34:775 (34775|5) - dont focus on the drums , it look really messy

00:35:375 (35375|6,35375|5,35675|1) - ^ , i dont mind if you want to double 00:35:525 (35525|3) - note , would also work better
i rearranged the pattern to be consistent with earlier pattern on that phase.

00:36:275 (36275|4,36875|4) - also not suggested to catch , note like this would work better http://puu.sh/h2J0F.jpg

00:37:925 (37925|4) - since here you focus on drums , delete this 00:37:925 (37925|4,39725|5) - would work better

00:40:775 - as for this section i suggest you to catch guitar only for friendly rhythm pick . something like http://puu.sh/h2JcD.jpg
00:42:875 (42875|5,43475|1,44075|5) - maybe delete this one too , would be much nicer to focus on the snare instead
00:46:175 (46175|5,46175|2) - again , please focus on the guitar , it felt weird with double notes without the guitar sound
00:48:575 (48575|3,48575|6) - ^

00:50:375 (50375|3,50675|1,51125|5,51575|3) - this kind of pattern is really hard with LN , please move this to SB note and let the LN only on the field
i would like to keep it if possible, I utilised 2 LNs because it fits the song and since there is no other patterning involed, pressing 2 notes at the same time i think, would not be much of a problem. will change 2/4 LN to SN if you think its still too difficult

00:53:975 (53975|1) - dont need to focus on this note
00:54:575 (54575|0,54575|5,54875|4) - delete this and add another note at 00:54:725 - instead
00:56:975 (56975|5,56975|4,57275|0) - suggest to delete this and focus on the guitar instead , something like this http://puu.sh/h2JDa.jpg is better imo
i will apply earlier pattern that you suggest and made changes on the placement a bit

00:58:175 (58175|6,58175|3,58775|6,58775|3) - delete
01:02:075 (62075|3) - suggest to delete to give some space , also would feel nice when playing
01:02:975 (62975|1,63275|2,63575|3) - double LNs are hard for lower difficulties , you should remove this one and move the keysound to SB
based on the guideline i should lower the OD if i utilise a lot of LNs, this is why my OD for the whole spread is not high because i utilise a lot of LNs. I would like to keep this if possible. because it fits the song, and the pattern is also well organised, while not breaking pitch relevancy at the same time. my main aim is to emphasise the main pitch of the song, which is why i accepted all of your suggestions to emphasise certain parts of the map to signify the main guitar melody.

01:03:875 (63875|4,64775|3) - suggesting this to be placed like this for hand balancing http://puu.sh/h2K3X.jpg
revamped a bit, i would like to maintain pitch relevancy while trying to maintain the pattern and make it still balanced if possible.

01:05:675 (65675|5,65675|2,65975|6,65975|3) - move this 1 column left ,the pitch is not the same ,doesnt suit the feeling of playing
the pitch of the main woodwind is the same C6 D#6 D#6, the wood wind accompaniments is G#5 C6 Bb5 (which aside from the notes, reflect why i map that. main woodwind : 1 2 2 (start up up). accompaniments woodwind: 1 3 2 (start up down) and which leads me to map only the main woodwind instrument. so start up up.). i did not use the pitched instrument for the woodwind accompaniments that LN is a 3/8 staccati which is why i utilised SN. in any case, i revamped the pattern and make it not jacked. but i still feel the need to point out this because i need to let you know that i am not placing them randomly. i follow the instrument correctly, i care for pitch relevancy while trying to maintain the pattern. you helped me a lot in balancing the pattern.thank you for your help o(≧v≦)o~~
01:04:775 - passing this section , you used too much LNs would be abusive for normal difficulties
change these to normal note as for better solution :
01:05:675 (65675|2,65675|5) -
01:08:075 (68075|6,68075|3,68375|2,68375|5) -
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01:30:275 (90275|6,90875|6,91475|6,92075|6) - not necessary to be focused on , 01:30:575 (90575|1,91175|3,91775|1) - these are sufficient enough
00:32:675 - although you did told me to maintain all of those here and just revamp the pattern. so i will change the earlier part based on this suggestion of yours as well, because they are of the same phase, i'd like to be consistent on this part.
01:32:375 (92375|4,92375|1,92525|5,92675|3,92675|6,92975|5,92975|0,93125|2,93275|4) - think about it on my previous mentions
01:35:525 (95525|4) - either u focus on guitar or drum , at this point
01:39:125 (99125|5) - ^
01:42:275 - this part onward maybe i can let pass for last part to be highlighted , previous parts are nope nope

thanks for mods! >_<b

Lanturn

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Lanturn 2015-04-14T07:13:22+00:00

I remember you saying that you'd prefer to use the English title if at all possible... well good news XD

Well I was playing through Atelier Shallie today and I was browsing through the soundtracks from DLC and such and it had the English tracklist to all the music.

It does indeed show up as "Welcome to the Workshop!" on my game, so it should be fine to use the English title if you still want to

Avishay

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Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-04-15T21:23:22+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
I remember you saying that you'd prefer to use the English title if at all possible... well good news XD

Well I was playing through Atelier Shallie today and I was browsing through the soundtracks from DLC and such and it had the English tracklist to all the music.

It does indeed show up as "Welcome to the Workshop!" on my game, so it should be fine to use the English title if you still want to

SPOILER

Map isn't dead! (I hope)

@schwarz When you are updating the map (if you ever do), at my diff, 00:41:525 (3) - change clap to whistle :3

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-04-16T00:07:53+00:00

ITS BEEN A LONG TRIP, WE CAN'T STOP NOW

What do we even need, a mania check?

schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-16T02:15:55+00:00

Avishay wrote:
Lanturn wrote:
I remember you saying that you'd prefer to use the English title if at all possible... well good news XD

Well I was playing through Atelier Shallie today and I was browsing through the soundtracks from DLC and such and it had the English tracklist to all the music.

It does indeed show up as "Welcome to the Workshop!" on my game, so it should be fine to use the English title if you still want to

SPOILER
Map isn't dead! (I hope)

@schwarz When you are updating the map (if you ever do), at my diff, 00:41:525 (3) - change clap to whistle :3

Lazer wrote:
ITS BEEN A LONG TRIP, WE CAN'T STOP NOW

What do we even need, a mania check?

Rumia is away on a (business?) trip. sorry for not posting anything. I am keeping in touch with rumia, she/he said there is not a big issue with the map per se, just some emphasis that could be improved. No worries. i'm not ditching this project

and also i'll be busy till the end of april so we are trying to agree on a time to do IRC mod.

schwarzvgrune

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Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-16T02:18:39+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
I remember you saying that you'd prefer to use the English title if at all possible... well good news XD

Well I was playing through Atelier Shallie today and I was browsing through the soundtracks from DLC and such and it had the English tracklist to all the music.

It does indeed show up as "Welcome to the Workshop!" on my game, so it should be fine to use the English title if you still want to

SPOILER

yes thank you for the clarification, i just realised that we can actually use the data than we have on the game and ss it as a proof to clarify the name?
i will change the english name tag in a bit, thank you for your help o(>﹏<)o

PatZar

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Joined March 2013

PatZar 2015-04-19T15:56:37+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
SPOILER

oh yeah just noticed about extras X'D

schwarzvgrune

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Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-21T03:34:29+00:00

made adjustment to 4k easy as per Rumia-'s request.
made adjustment for std insane's hitsound as per avishay's request.
changed all the romanised title to 'Welcome to the Workshop!'

I think it's ready now, else Rumia wants to add anything else o(≧v≦)o~~

Rumia-

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Joined July 2012

Rumia- 2015-04-21T10:14:07+00:00

my suggestions to other diff as well ~
no kd

Std

[Lazer's Hard]
00:17:525 (4) - would suggest to delete this note since it doesnt represent anything , also would be a nice rhythm without it
00:19:025 (3) - ^
00:26:225 (3) - this one too , considering the consistency of the rhythm, u picked : http://puu.sh/hlznK.jpg

[A's Insane]
00:03:125 (1) - feel a little off beat here , might move the head to 00:03:275 - would sound better imo ( also move the greenlines too )
00:20:375 (4) - i think better use a proper ds here tho , would be neater : http://puu.sh/hlza0.jpg

Taiko

[ikin's Fuutsu]
00:08:075 (11) - not sure if you misplaced this , should be on blue tick imo

[Nardo's Muzu]
00:15:875 (27,32) - clap here would fit more imo
00:29:975 (58) - remove this clap since the pitch goes down , its nicer to hear with kdd
01:11:675 (157) - i think its nicer if you move this to 01:11:375 - and add a clap

[Nardo's Oni]
00:26:525 (63) - maybe a whistle k would be nicer since the pitch is rising up , also would be nicer according to your previous triplet
00:29:675 (75) - also might delete this clap for better rhythm imo
01:04:625 (220,221) - maybe swap would be nicer ?
01:09:425 - might wanna add a k here since there is a 1/1 break , just like 01:14:075 (257,258,259) - part

Mania

Key : 1234

[4k Normal]
00:33:275 (33275|0) - move this to 4 for hand balance
00:52:775 (52775|0) - ^
00:59:075 - suggest the pattern would be like this : http://puu.sh/hlyxl.jpg

[4K Hard]
00:06:425 (6425|0) - i cant hear any sound here , consider remove ?
00:11:375 (11375|0) - ^
00:17:375 (17375|1,17375|2,17675|3,17675|2) - idk if it is just me or is it better with drump sampleset clap , but if u want to apply , need to look overall mania diffs again and apply to same part u used these , i leave it as your decision
00:27:725 (27725|1) - also recommend you to delete this for better rhythm
00:29:825 (29825|0) - ^
00:46:925 (46925|1) - ^
00:41:675 (41675|1) - suggest move to 4
00:50:525 (50525|2) - also hardly to be hear , suggest to delete this
00:52:475 (52475|1,52925|0) - how about delete these whistle , would make a nice hitsound imo
01:00:275 (60275|2) - suggest to move to 2
01:07:025 - might wanna add a note on 1st collumn since there is a repeated percussion there like this http://puu.sh/hlyiy.jpg
01:09:425 - ^
01:11:825 - ^
01:14:075 (74075|1,74525|3) - delete whistle as previous suggestion
01:16:475 (76475|2,76925|1) - ^
01:20:975 (80975|3,81125|0,81425|0,81575|1,81875|1) - whistle here ?
01:26:525 (86525|0) - hardly to be hear , suggest to delete tho
01:30:875 (90875|1,91325|0) - delete whistle as prev suggestion

call me back ~

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-04-21T11:27:02+00:00

Fixed both and fixed an other hitsound issue and spacing incosistencies

Thanks!

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ikin5050

586 posts

Joined February 2014

ikin5050 2015-04-21T12:11:31+00:00

Rumia- wrote:
my suggestions to other diff as well ~
no kd

[box=Taiko][ikin's Fuutsu]
00:08:075 (11) - not sure if you misplaced this , should be on blue tick imo

you're right, thanks for pointing this out!

call me back ~

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schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-21T12:40:27+00:00

Rumia- wrote:
my suggestions to other diff as well ~
no kd
no reply = implemented
[4k Normal]
00:33:275 (33275|0) - move this to 4 for hand balance
00:52:775 (52775|0) - ^
00:59:075 - suggest the pattern would be like this : http://puu.sh/hlyxl.jpg

[4K Hard]
00:06:425 (6425|0) - i cant hear any sound here , consider remove ? // umm, a sound here, so no.
00:11:375 (11375|0) - ^ // also a sound here, albeit faint. i don't see any problem following it even without hitsound.

00:17:375 (17375|1,17375|2,17675|3,17675|2) - idk if it is just me or is it better with drump sampleset clap , but if u want to apply , need to look overall mania diffs again and apply to same part u used these , i leave it as your decision // i tried it, the default drumset? i personally prefers the hand clap better. the original beat's pitch is kind of high, that default drum clap hitsound is too low. so i'd like to keep it as it is.
00:27:725 (27725|1) - also recommend you to delete this for better rhythm
00:29:825 (29825|0) - ^
00:46:925 (46925|1) - ^
00:41:675 (41675|1) - suggest move to 4
00:50:525 (50525|2) - also hardly to be hear , suggest to delete this // i agree with this one, but i keep it because i wanted to keep the pattern consistent, its 1 2 3 4 5 6 7, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7. so i think it still fits well
00:52:475 (52475|1,52925|0) - how about delete these whistle , would make a nice hitsound imo // oh yes very nice suggestions, i also did that for earlier pattern.
01:00:275 (60275|2) - suggest to move to 2
01:07:025 - might wanna add a note on 1st collumn since there is a repeated percussion there like this http://puu.sh/hlyiy.jpg
01:09:425 - ^
01:11:825 - ^
01:14:075 (74075|1,74525|3) - delete whistle as previous suggestion
01:16:475 (76475|2,76925|1) - ^
01:20:975 (80975|3,81125|0,81425|0,81575|1,81875|1) - whistle here ?
01:26:525 (86525|0) - hardly to be hear , suggest to delete tho // i think it's fine as it is...
01:30:875 (90875|1,91325|0) - delete whistle as prev suggestion

call me back ~

avishay's and ikin's also updated <3

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-04-21T13:33:08+00:00