Ken Nakagawa - Welcome to the Workshop! [Osu|OsuMania|Taiko] · forum

PatZar

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Joined March 2013

PatZar 2015-03-15T10:42:04+00:00

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-03-15T11:25:45+00:00

Gaia wrote:
[Insane]
NCing here seems to be really inconsistent.. just put it on every big white tick and you'll be fine

00:03:125 - there's barely a sound here.. change this into a circle, mapping the blue tick only causes bad polarity . also the spacing on this is broken . you're gunna need a NC or something to call this an antijump NC added but no other change.
00:03:875 (1,2,3) - try to keep your 1/4 jumps consistent V
00:06:725 (1,2) - seriously dont do this, bad polarity really screws players over Why? Those are not forced beats and it goes just fine.
00:07:925 (4,5) - inconsistent spacing, this is 1/4 spacing from what ive seen earlier Fixed
00:10:925 (4,5,6) - what is this spacing :> Added NC
00:14:225 (1,2,3,1) - i dont think the thing in the music supports such a big jump here Changed
00:15:875 (1) - 00:18:275 (1) - finish on head 00:17:675 (5) - remove finish V

i see you like playing with sv a lot, that's fine but really work on how to make them readable ingame
also the jumps here are really iffy imo, listen to the sound and think about if the music actually supports the jumps

but most importantly i think this diff needs more consistent spacing, cuz its really all over the place right now

anyways thats enough from me i think, good luck from now!

Thanks.

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schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-15T15:50:19+00:00

Genocide wrote:

thank you very much QAQ
at last for taiko QAQ

all diffs updated!

rhalp10

579 posts

Joined September 2013

rhalp10 2015-03-20T01:58:54+00:00

HERES MY MOD

[Welcome to the Workshop!]

-W

-E

-R
[Nardo's Oni]
00:24:875 (56) - Make It Red
00:25:175 (57) - Make it Blue
00:39:275 (109,110,111,112) - Invert There Color

[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:05:675 (5675|5,5675|1,5975|2,5975|4,6275|3,6275|2) - Ctrl + H
00:39:575 (39575|4) - Make It Long Note 00:39:725 Start Here 00:39:575 (39575|4) ? End Here (39725|5)

Good Luck <3

Last edited by rhalp10 2015-03-25T01:38:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

1,772 posts

Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-20T02:26:10+00:00

rhalp10 wrote:

HERES MY MOD
[Welcome to the Workshop!]

[Nardo's Oni]
00:24:875 (56) - Make It Red
00:25:175 (57) - Make it Blue
00:39:275 (109,110,111,112) - Invert There Color

[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:05:675 (5675|5,5675|1,5975|2,5975|4,6275|3,6275|2) - Ctrl + H finger balance yes? but horrible layering so no
00:39:575 (39575|4) - Make It Long Note 00:39:725 Start Here 00:39:575 (39575|4) ? End Here (39725|5) what for?

Good Luck <3

Oh u. May taiko icon na :v
Will check mod later ^^

no change

Nardoxyribonucleic

osu! Alumni

3,008 posts

Joined May 2011

Nardoxyribonucleic 2015-03-20T09:01:56+00:00

rhalp10 wrote:

HERES MY MOD
[Welcome to the Workshop!]

[Nardo's Oni]
00:24:875 (56) - Make It Red k d would result in a smoother flow imo.
00:25:175 (57) - Make it Blue ^
00:39:275 (109,110,111,112) - Invert There Color I think the current pattern could reflect the guitar pitch in a way better.

Good Luck <3

Thanks for your mod~

Shushan

627 posts

Joined November 2013

Shushan 2015-03-21T15:33:26+00:00

17:06 ohad1881: send it now
17:06 *schwarzvgrune is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/614485 Nakagawa Ken - Welcome to the Workshop!]
17:07 schwarzvgrune: can i post this testplay conversation on my thread?
17:07 ohad1881: yes
17:07 schwarzvgrune: because im not the one making the std diffs
17:07 schwarzvgrune: okay thank you
17:07 schwarzvgrune: so i can let the GDers know what ppl think about their maps >_<
17:07 ohad1881: spectating?
17:07 ohad1881: yea
17:07 ohad1881: i know avishay
17:07 ohad1881: :3
17:07 ohad1881: anyway
17:07 ohad1881: spectate
17:07 schwarzvgrune: yes youre both from israel after all <3
17:07 schwarzvgrune: yup
17:07 schwarzvgrune: done
17:08 ohad1881: ok lets see
17:10 ohad1881: ok
17:10 ohad1881: few things
17:10 ohad1881: the start have a lot of random placmant
17:10 ohad1881: and its a quiet music so you should make a little ds in the start
17:11 ohad1881: 2. there are a lot of random sliders
17:11 ohad1881: ill find 1
17:12 schwarzvgrune: i see!
17:12 ohad1881: 00:31:176 this one is preety bad
17:12 ohad1881: you should make the red curve in the middle
17:13 ohad1881: 00:47:225
17:13 ohad1881: this one does not seem to git the music well
17:13 schwarzvgrune: i see
17:13 schwarzvgrune: oh yes for a note, you can use hebrew.. because avishay will be the one reading this
17:14 ohad1881: nah its ok
17:14 ohad1881: 01:09:575
17:14 ohad1881: blanket need a fix
17:14 ohad1881: 01:13:475
17:14 ohad1881: this slider is really not good for watching and playin
17:15 ohad1881: sorry avi
17:15 ohad1881: and there are a lot of unstacked circles
17:16 ohad1881: 01:44:225
17:16 ohad1881: and more
17:16 ohad1881: good things:
17:16 ohad1881: this map is really fun to play and i like the idea of the cs 5
17:16 ohad1881: it has a good patterns that i liked
17:16 ohad1881: like this
17:17 ohad1881: 00:43:175 - 00:44:375
17:18 ohad1881: i liked the hitsounding a lot 2
17:18 ohad1881: hmm would you like on the other diffs?
17:18 schwarzvgrune: oh okay >w<b thanks... and also are you going to be the one posting this conv or me？ if you post it i can give you a kudosu. because you're actually modding at the moment and not only testplaying anymore...
17:19 ohad1881: how do i do that
17:19 ohad1881: i never understood
17:19 schwarzvgrune: sure it would be great if you could do that, and we can count that as a mod instead, so you can post this conversation on the thread
17:19 schwarzvgrune: oh
17:19 schwarzvgrune: i can tell you later
17:19 schwarzvgrune: you only need to type /savelog
17:19 schwarzvgrune: to save your log
17:19 schwarzvgrune: and then just go to the thread ill give you the link later
17:19 ohad1881: ok done
17:19 schwarzvgrune: and post those conversation on the log, unto the thread
17:19 ohad1881: ok
17:19 ohad1881: soo
17:19 ohad1881: how do i do that
17:20 schwarzvgrune: umm...
17:20 schwarzvgrune: use /savelog
17:20 ohad1881: and then what..
17:20 schwarzvgrune: then copy and paste conversation content unto the thread
17:20 schwarzvgrune: when you type /savelog, see at the bottom right corner of your osu window
17:21 schwarzvgrune: file saved to xxx you can click that before its gone
17:21 schwarzvgrune: then the txt document will be opened
17:21 ohad1881: ok
17:21 ohad1881: ill post it
17:22 schwarzvgrune: t/210997
17:22 ohad1881: posted
17:22 schwarzvgrune: do you mind testing lazer's diff as well?
17:23 ohad1881: yea ok
17:25 ohad1881: oki doki
17:25 ohad1881: lets see
17:26 ohad1881: 00:22:475
17:26 ohad1881: remove nc PLS
17:26 ohad1881: 00:24:875
17:26 ohad1881: ^^
17:26 ohad1881: 00:26:225 fix blanket
17:27 ohad1881: put it in 1 (00:32:675) to make a nie blanket
17:27 ohad1881: like this ill show you
17:28 ohad1881: http://prntscr.com/6jix6u
17:28 ohad1881: 00:45:575 3,4,5
17:28 ohad1881: not flowing well at all
17:28 ohad1881: 00:47:675
17:29 ohad1881: this kind of triples are kinda bad to do its a bad flow
17:29 ohad1881: 01:02:825
17:29 ohad1881: fix blanket
17:30 ohad1881: well thats it
17:30 ohad1881: i suck at easy
17:30 ohad1881: so i cant tell you else
17:30 ohad1881: normal to..
17:30 schwarzvgrune: sure its fine
17:30 schwarzvgrune: thank you
17:31 ohad1881: ok ill edit the post and put the lazers mod 2

Aste-

2,387 posts

Joined September 2014

Aste- 2015-03-21T15:59:28+00:00

just a litt'e MOD for A's Insane...

AR = 8,7? isn't it too fast? (suggest 8.5)
and the star are too.. uhhh high....

sorry if i make any mistake >.<

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-03-21T17:37:23+00:00

Pharos21 wrote:
just a litt'e MOD for A's Insane...

AR = 8,7? isn't it too fast? (suggest 8.5) Lower just feels bad for the difficulty of the map imo :S
and the star are too.. uhhh high.... Star rating? Well I don't map around star rating but rather how I feel it should be.

sorry if i make any mistake >.<

ohad1881 wrote:
17:06 ohad1881: send it now
17:06 *schwarzvgrune is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/614485 Nakagawa Ken - Welcome to the Workshop!]
17:07 schwarzvgrune: can i post this testplay conversation on my thread?
17:07 ohad1881: yes
17:07 schwarzvgrune: because im not the one making the std diffs
17:07 schwarzvgrune: okay thank you
17:07 schwarzvgrune: so i can let the GDers know what ppl think about their maps >_<
17:07 ohad1881: spectating?
17:07 ohad1881: yea
17:07 ohad1881: i know avishay
17:07 ohad1881: :3
17:07 ohad1881: anyway
17:07 ohad1881: spectate
17:07 schwarzvgrune: yes youre both from israel after all <3
17:07 schwarzvgrune: yup
17:07 schwarzvgrune: done
17:08 ohad1881: ok lets see
17:10 ohad1881: ok
17:10 ohad1881: few things
17:10 ohad1881: the start have a lot of random placmant
17:10 ohad1881: and its a quiet music so you should make a little ds in the start
17:11 ohad1881: 2. there are a lot of random sliders
17:11 ohad1881: ill find 1
17:12 schwarzvgrune: i see!
17:12 ohad1881: 00:31:176 this one is preety bad
17:12 ohad1881: you should make the red curve in the middle Why? This part feels 'jumpy' so I do not want to use curved sliders.
17:13 ohad1881: 00:47:225
17:13 ohad1881: this one does not seem to git the music well I think it follows it fine, but I removed the reverse and added something else.
17:13 schwarzvgrune: i see
17:13 schwarzvgrune: oh yes for a note, you can use hebrew.. because avishay will be the one reading this
17:14 ohad1881: nah its ok
17:14 ohad1881: 01:09:575 I think it's fine, don't get nazi :S
17:14 ohad1881: blanket need a fix
17:14 ohad1881: 01:13:475 I think it's fine, just a bit irregular and unique.
17:14 ohad1881: this slider is really not good for watching and playin
17:15 ohad1881: sorry avi
17:15 ohad1881: and there are a lot of unstacked circles
17:16 ohad1881: 01:44:225 Fixed whatever I could find.
17:16 ohad1881: and more
17:16 ohad1881: good things:
17:16 ohad1881: this map is really fun to play and i like the idea of the cs 5
17:16 ohad1881: it has a good patterns that i liked
17:16 ohad1881: like this
17:17 ohad1881: 00:43:175 - 00:44:375
17:18 ohad1881: i liked the hitsounding a lot 2

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Lazer 2015-03-22T04:34:22+00:00

Lazer's Hard

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FIXED FLOW!

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-22T05:45:06+00:00

all updated thanks

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-03-22T20:02:56+00:00

[A's Insane]

00:02:675 (3,1) - Seems like flow error
00:05:525 (1) - I feel like you should ctrl + j and reposition a bit for flow
00:10:475 (2) - Move towards left so you can create some sort of triangle also regarding flow
00:18:725 (2) - I believe this one will have to get removed
00:23:525 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest making it like this
00:26:375 (3,4) - Ctrl G these two, then Ctrl G 00:26:675 (1) - , and (maybe) make a small upwards curve in the slider
00:28:625 (4,1) - These two transition into bad flow
00:58:475 (3) - Ctrl H that one for flow
01:47:825 (4,5) - I would suggest removing these

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-03-22T20:13:34+00:00

And here is normal difficulty flow fix, and with that I believe both my difficulties are completely done

Lazer's Normal

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EDIT: found small problem on hard/checked testplay mod, updated it aswell

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148,112,19025,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,112,19175,2,0,P|76:180|100:300,1,223.999993164063,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,332,20075,2,0,P|260:280|232:240,1,111.999996582031,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,184,20675,5,0,0:0:0:0:
360,168,20825,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,184,20975,2,0,P|224:192|172:184,1,111.999996582031,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,40,21575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
340,72,21875,2,0,L|368:132,1,55.9999982910157,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
292,140,22175,2,0,L|297:205,1,55.9999982910157,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,192,22475,2,0,L|206:255,1,55.9999982910157
292,140,22775,2,0,L|297:205,1,55.9999982910157,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,80,23075,6,0,P|396:96|404:164,1,111.999996582031,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
408,260,23675,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,308,23825,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,312,23975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
136,292,24275,2,0,L|64:260,1,55.9999982910157
132,212,24575,2,0,L|75:157,1,55.9999982910157,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,140,24875,2,0,L|121:69,1,55.9999982910157
208,88,25175,2,0,L|199:9,1,55.9999982910157,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,60,25475,5,2,0:0:0:0:
344,148,25775,2,0,P|312:212|260:236,1,111.999996582031,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,252,26225,1,0,0:0:0:0:
142,220,26375,2,0,P|140:278|197:323,1,111.999996582031,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,316,26975,2,0,P|340:283|361:232,1,111.999996582031,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
460,180,27575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
364,124,27875,6,0,B|252:96|252:156|136:124,1,223.999993164063,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,212,28775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
176,268,29075,2,0,B|284:298|284:238|396:266,1,223.999993164063,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
500,228,29975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
456,124,30275,5,2,0:0:0:0:
335,72,30575,2,0,L|383:99,1,55.9999982910157,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,112,30875,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,72,31025,2,8,L|152:108,1,55.9999982910157,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,216,31475,6,0,P|104:264|168:296,1,111.999996582031,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,312,31925,1,2,0:0:0:0:
292,316,32075,1,2,0:0:0:0:
424,268,32375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
488,140,32675,6,0,P|460:60|352:232,1,447.999986328125,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,288,34175,2,0,P|400:336|332:356,1,111.999996582031
236,344,34775,2,0,P|200:324|177:297,1,55.9999982910157,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
144,260,35075,5,2,0:0:0:0:
232,116,35525,1,2,0:0:0:0:
388,56,35975,2,0,P|448:120|352:180,1,223.999993164063,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,164,36875,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,72,37175,1,8,0:0:0:0:
380,48,37325,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,28,37475,6,0,P|488:80|472:144,1,111.999996582031,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
444,184,37925,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,216,38075,2,0,P|320:196|340:136,1,111.999996582031,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
212,136,38675,1,2,0:0:0:0:
252,240,38975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
356,280,39275,6,8,L|420:260,1,55.9999982910157,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,240,39575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
496,168,39725,1,2,0:0:0:0:
452,108,39875,5,2,0:0:0:0:
312,140,40175,2,0,P|280:152|256:188,1,55.9999982910157,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,232,40475,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,300,40625,2,0,P|164:292|139:271,1,55.9999982910157,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
68,160,41075,1,2,0:0:0:0:
236,48,41525,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,220,41975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
404,340,42275,6,0,P|444:328|440:264,1,111.999996582031,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
380,148,42875,2,0,P|288:112|176:164,1,223.999993164063,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,292,43775,2,0,P|180:344|240:356,1,111.999996582031,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,324,44375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
424,256,44675,6,0,P|432:192|424:132,1,111.999996582031,6|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,76,45275,2,0,L|304:76|268:76,1,55.9999982910157
220,112,45575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
284,152,45725,1,2,0:0:0:0:
356,152,45875,1,2,0:0:0:0:
196,316,46475,6,0,P|112:248|160:152,1,223.999993164063,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,60,47375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
388,96,47675,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,140,47825,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,164,47975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
480,288,48275,2,0,P|448:360|320:344,1,223.999993164063,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,236,49175,6,0,P|236:168|280:128,1,111.999996582031,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,216,49775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
204,312,50075,1,0,0:0:0:0:
132,324,50225,1,0,0:0:0:0:
60,316,50375,2,0,P|24:288|44:220,1,111.999996582031,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
132,120,50975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
196,88,51125,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,116,51275,2,0,P|292:164|268:220,1,111.999996582031,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
164,296,51875,6,0,P|220:324|364:264,1,223.999993164063,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,124,52775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
208,64,53075,1,2,0:0:0:0:
144,100,53225,1,0,0:0:0:0:
204,140,53375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
325,193,53675,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,296,53975,6,0,P|172:320|120:300,1,111.999996582031,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,200,54575,2,0,P|276:176|328:196,1,111.999996582031,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,292,55175,2,0,P|440:300|416:180,1,223.999993164063,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,92,56075,2,0,P|280:80|240:80,1,55.9999982910157
188,88,56375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
124,120,56525,1,2,0:0:0:0:
76,176,56675,5,2,0:0:0:0:
176,296,56975,2,0,P|240:316|288:296,1,111.999996582031,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
221,180,57575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
361,180,57875,1,2,0:0:0:0:
292,52,58175,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,196,58475,2,0,L|292:312,1,111.999996582031,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,332,59075,6,0,B|120:224|172:224|152:108,1,223.999993164063,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,100,59975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
292,248,60275,1,2,0:0:0:0:
220,224,60425,1,0,0:0:0:0:
276,176,60575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
168,328,60875,2,0,P|84:324|72:300,1,111.999996582031,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
72,164,61475,5,6,0:0:0:0:
184,72,61775,2,0,L|260:72,1,55.9999982910157,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
312,76,62075,2,0,P|364:112|336:160,1,111.999996582031,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,232,62675,1,0,0:0:0:0:
172,192,62825,1,0,0:0:0:0:
238,162,62975,2,0,P|286:181|296:257,1,111.999996582031,10|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,192,63575,1,10,0:0:0:0:
72,132,63875,6,0,P|144:80|240:96,1,191.999994140625,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,156,64775,2,0,P|340:196|288:224,1,95.9999970703126,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,256,65375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
84,204,65675,1,2,0:0:0:0:
188,156,65975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
276,228,66275,6,0,P|316:80|136:68,1,383.99998828125,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,268,68075,2,0,L|140:300,2,47.9999985351563,14|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,192,68675,6,0,P|80:84|164:52,1,191.999994140625,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,88,69575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
232,136,69725,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,172,69875,1,2,0:0:0:0:
180,268,70175,2,0,P|236:300|284:296,1,95.9999970703126,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,268,70775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
432,152,71075,6,0,P|400:80|288:192,1,287.999991210938,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,312,72275,1,2,0:0:0:0:
160,260,72575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
40,292,72875,2,0,P|40:216|64:192,1,95.9999970703126,14|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,104,73475,5,2,0:0:0:0:
252,124,73775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
368,164,74075,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,220,74225,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,272,74375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
136,184,74975,6,0,L|56:240,1,95.9999970703126,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,268,75575,2,0,L|112:344,1,95.9999970703126,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
236,332,76175,5,8,0:0:0:0:
320,240,76475,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,184,76625,1,0,0:0:0:0:
380,128,76775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
276,60,77075,2,0,P|220:52|168:60,1,95.9999970703126,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,104,77675,1,14,0:0:0:0:
168,172,77975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
268,232,78275,6,0,B|357:219|357:247|464:228,1,191.999994140625,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,304,79175,1,8,0:0:0:0:
268,232,79475,2,0,P|192:232|192:332,1,191.999994140625,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,356,80375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
412,328,80675,6,0,P|460:244|404:180,1,191.999994140625,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,112,81575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
200,116,81875,1,2,0:0:0:0:
164,168,82025,1,0,0:0:0:0:
124,216,82175,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,272,82475,1,14,0:0:0:0:
248,216,82625,1,0,0:0:0:0:
276,160,82775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
336,96,83075,6,0,B|208:76|208:112|68:96,1,264.000008056641,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
40,140,84125,1,0,0:0:0:0:
68,184,84275,1,2,0:0:0:0:
200,344,84875,2,0,P|248:336|264:300,1,80
340,244,85475,6,0,L|372:244|388:244,1,40,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,244,85775,1,0,0:0:0:0:
484,244,85925,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,112,86375,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,112,86675,2,0,P|204:148|192:204,1,160,6|6,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,192,87575,1,2,0:0:0:0:
212,276,87875,5,2,0:0:0:0:
172,308,88025,1,0,0:0:0:0:
124,332,88175,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,340,88325,2,0,P|44:336|28:248,1,120,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
76,172,89075,5,6,0:0:0:0:
216,108,89525,2,0,P|276:132|300:184,1,120,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,212,90275,5,2,0:0:0:0:
144,300,90575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
248,300,90875,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,316,91025,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,332,91175,1,8,0:0:0:0:
436,284,91475,6,0,P|456:232|452:192,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,116,92075,2,0,P|380:112|356:116,1,40
312,116,92375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
260,128,92525,1,2,0:0:0:0:
216,152,92675,6,0,P|180:192|208:248,1,120,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,296,93425,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,296,93575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
328,196,93875,1,0,0:0:0:0:
396,116,94175,1,8,0:0:0:0:
464,196,94475,1,0,0:0:0:0:
456,248,94625,1,0,0:0:0:0:
412,276,94775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
308,272,95075,5,2,0:0:0:0:
204,276,95375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
204,276,95525,1,2,0:0:0:0:
48,276,95975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
120,352,96275,2,0,P|156:356|200:352,1,80,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,252,96875,2,0,P|272:248|324:252,1,80,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,252,97325,1,2,0:0:0:0:
416,240,97475,6,0,P|432:176|352:148,1,160,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
268,196,98375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
324,284,98675,1,2,0:0:0:0:
420,244,98975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
420,244,99125,1,2,0:0:0:0:
272,200,99575,1,8,0:0:0:0:
172,172,99875,6,0,P|107:201|136:282,1,160,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,248,100775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
248,292,100925,1,0,0:0:0:0:
276,336,101075,1,2,0:0:0:0:
368,288,101375,2,0,P|392:240|400:212,1,80,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,116,101975,1,8,0:0:0:0:
328,44,102275,6,0,L|216:88,1,120,6|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,102875,2,0,L|340:116,1,80,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
492,236,103775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
388,248,104075,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,252,104225,1,0,0:0:0:0:
284,256,104375,1,8,0:0:0:0:
148,100,104675,6,0,L|84:208,1,120,6|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,240,105275,2,0,L|192:164,1,80,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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300,88,106025,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,92,106175,1,8,0:0:0:0:
404,96,106325,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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448,204,106775,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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348,200,107675,2,0,P|312:212|260:192,1,80,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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80,136,108875,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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208,156,110075,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,124,110225,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,112,110375,2,0,P|352:172|396:256,1,160,12|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,111125,12,6,111875,0:0:0:0:

shionelove

1,521 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2015-03-23T07:06:19+00:00

pattern mod
column 1234 1234567
bg ok
mp3
aimod ok

HP&OD
7K normal:HP+1
4K Hard&7K Hard:HP +0.5~1

[General]
01:51:875 - you have to add because of measure thing
maybe other modes too

[4K Easy]
01:20:675 (80675|2) - move to 2
[4K Normal]
nothing
[4K Hard]
00:17:675 (17675|1) - until 00:18:275 (18275|2) - ? i'm afraid of unrank because of this conflict
01:44:075 (104075|1,106475|2,108875|1) - ^

[7K Easy]
00:38:375 (38375|3,39575|2,39725|4,39875|6) - move to 3,246
01:49:475 (109475|3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926338 i think
[7K Normal]
00:17:675 (17675|5) - compere with 01:44:075 (104075|5) - plz
make same plz
01:11:075 (71075|1,71075|3) - move to 46
01:30:575 (90575|2,91175|2,91775|2) - delete?
01:49:475 (109475|1,109925|2,110375|1,111575|2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926362
[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:17:675 (17675|1) - until 00:18:125 plz plz
00:50:675 (50675|2,51125|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926381
01:51:575 - add 7

ok

Last edited by shionelove 2015-03-24T05:16:53+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-23T16:05:14+00:00

shionelove wrote:
pattern mod
column 1234 1234567
bg ok
mp3
aimod ok

HP&OD
7K normal:HP+1 increased 1
4K Hard&7K Hard:HP +0.5~1 increased 1

[General]
01:51:875 - you have to add because of measure thing
maybe other modes too. added on all mania diffs, taiko is iconed already i don't think there are any issue, i'll recheck for std

[4K Easy]
01:20:675 (80675|2) - move to 2 ok
[4K Normal]
nothing
[4K Hard]
00:17:675 (17675|1) - until 00:18:275 (18275|2) - ? i'm afraid of unrank because of this conflict
01:44:075 (104075|1,106475|2,108875|1) - ^ what do you mean? i don't understand this can you please explain ;w; if its about snapping then its snapped properly already... EDIT: i just realised what you mean, you wanted me to snap that until that position? but the LN is already accurate, the pitch actually ends there, or 1/16 shorter than that, but its weird if i snap it 1/16 shorter, thats why i put it there.
other diffs later

updated thanks

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-03-23T16:54:57+00:00

shionelove wrote:
[General]
01:51:875 - you have to add because of measure thing
maybe other modes too Is it unrankable? I'd understand if I mapped the other diffs as well but I didn't.. I'd like to leave it as it is.

Lazer wrote:
[A's Insane]

00:02:675 (3,1) - Seems like flow error Seems just fine, it goes with the music and flows nicely
00:05:525 (1) - I feel like you should ctrl + j and reposition a bit for flow Actually I like the way the slider (after ctrl+j) goes with the previous slider, changed.
00:10:475 (2) - Move towards left so you can create some sort of triangle also regarding flow Repositioned some stuff..
00:18:725 (2) - I believe this one will have to get removed I don't, but I realised I shouldn't make the slider a bit earlier, so it ends on a beat but there's still 1/8 triplet.
00:23:525 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest making it like this It's nice but I prefer the current one
00:26:375 (3,4) - Ctrl G these two, then Ctrl G 00:26:675 (1) - , and (maybe) make a small upwards curve in the slider I can, but why exactly? The current pattern is better imo.
00:28:625 (4,1) - These two transition into bad flow I don't think the flow was bad but I changed 1 into a slider, it will flow better and follow the music better.
00:58:475 (3) - Ctrl H that one for flow You meant CTRL+G? Because CTRL+H just moves it to the other side of the screen, and even if I reposition it doesn't go well (I prefer the current one over CTRL+G as well)
01:47:825 (4,5) - I would suggest removing these I realised this didn't fit the best and changed pattern a bit.

Thanks~

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lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-24T23:57:12+00:00

shionelove wrote:
pattern mod

[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:17:675 (17675|1) - until 00:18:125 plz plz moved note below it and applied
00:50:675 (50675|2,51125|1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926381 ok
01:51:575 - add 7 added 5 instead and moves notes above

ok

Will check later

update

stuff

osu file format v14

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ArtistUnicode:中河 健
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schwarzvgrune

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schwarzvgrune 2015-03-25T04:32:16+00:00

shionelove wrote:
pattern mod

[7K Easy]
00:38:375 (38375|3,39575|2,39725|4,39875|6) - move to 3,246 ok
01:49:475 (109475|3) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926338 i think ok, though it doesnt really reflect the pitch accurately considering the placement, i accept this due to pattern consideration
[7K Normal]
00:17:675 (17675|5) - compere with 01:44:075 (104075|5) - plz totally forgot that, snapped (only because its normal, no changes for 4K HD on these parts >_<)
make same plz
01:11:075 (71075|1,71075|3) - move to 46 no, this one reflects the pitch accurately (both 2 woodwind sounds, main melody, and the accompaniments, descends on those parts.)
01:30:575 (90575|2,91175|2,91775|2) - delete? ok
01:49:475 (109475|1,109925|2,110375|1,111575|2) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2926362 ok, though it doesnt really reflect the pitch accurately considering the placement, i accept this due to pattern consideration

EDIT: I made minor adjustment for 7K NM for better hand balance on those part that you mention
01:02:975 - until 01:20:675 -
ok

thanks <3

shionelove

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shionelove 2015-03-25T09:05:54+00:00

hitsound mod&some mod
N=Normal,W=Whistle,F=Finish,C=Clap
maybe you made hitsounds carefully and finished check over again because of hard hitsounding,i just check few thing

[4K Easy]
01:51:875 (111875|3) - N
[4K Normal]
01:01:475 (61475|1) - N
01:03:275 (63275|3) - ^
01:03:875 (63875|1) - ^
01:47:075 (107075|1) - F
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
[4K Hard]
00:51:575 (51575|1,51575|2) - add F
01:44:675 (104675|2) - F
01:47:075 (107075|0) - ^
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
01:51:875 (111875|1,111875|0) - delete one note,one note with W is enough i think
[7K Easy]
01:18:275 (78275|1) - change normal-hitfinish.wav(cymbal sound)
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
[7K Normal]
00:20:675 (20675|6) - change cymbal sound
00:26:375 (26375|1) - add note with F
00:39:575 (39575|1) - F
[Lenfried's 7K Hard]
00:22:625 (22625|4) - N
00:22:775 (22775|3) - F
01:51:875 (111875|4) - change cymbal sound

no kds

schwarzvgrune

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schwarzvgrune 2015-03-25T09:26:17+00:00

shionelove wrote:
hitsound mod&some mod
N=Normal,W=Whistle,F=Finish,C=Clap
maybe you made hitsounds carefully and finished check over again because of hard hitsounding,i just check few thing
not noted = implemented
[4K Easy]
01:51:875 (111875|3) - N
[4K Normal]
01:01:475 (61475|1) - N

01:03:275 (63275|3) - ^
01:03:875 (63875|1) - ^ no to these 2, i use finish on purpose because of the phase change, and also the BG sound beat is becoming louder before the woodwind sets in
01:47:075 (107075|1) - F
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
[4K Hard]
00:51:575 (51575|1,51575|2) - add F umm i originally have 3 notes there, 2 expressing woodwind and guitar, 1 that finish sound, you were the one who suggested me to delete 1, so i deleted 1, and now i don't have finish there... but you suggested me to add F back @_@?
01:44:675 (104675|2) - F
01:47:075 (107075|0) - ^
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
01:51:875 (111875|1,111875|0) - delete one note,one note with W is enough i think
[7K Easy]
01:18:275 (78275|1) - change normal-hitfinish.wav(cymbal sound)
01:51:875 (111875|2) - N
[7K Normal]
00:20:675 (20675|6) - change cymbal sound
00:26:375 (26375|1) - add note with F
00:39:575 (39575|1) - F

no kds

shionelove

1,521 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2015-03-25T09:53:35+00:00

shionelove wrote:
hitsound mod&some mod
N=Normal,W=Whistle,F=Finish,C=Clap
maybe you made hitsounds carefully and finished check over again because of hard hitsounding,i just check few thing

[4K Hard]
00:51:575 (51575|1,51575|2) - add F in one,to keep snare rhythm
no kds

sorry for making misunderstanding

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

1,772 posts

Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-25T11:46:21+00:00

Grun, I can apply stuff tomorrow. But if you want, since you're way more knowledgable with hitsound comapared to me, you could do the HS mod.

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-25T13:39:57+00:00

shionelove wrote:
shionelove wrote:
hitsound mod&some mod
N=Normal,W=Whistle,F=Finish,C=Clap
maybe you made hitsounds carefully and finished check over again because of hard hitsounding,i just check few thing

[4K Hard]
00:51:575 (51575|1,51575|2) - add F in one,to keep snare rhythm
no kds
sorry for making misunderstanding

added, and also i made minor adjustment for placement to make it balanced
thank you for helping shione-san >_<
実は日本語で書いてが好いですよ。ruberusuさんも私に日本語でmodをするのですよ～

Frim4503

2,067 posts

Joined July 2013

Frim4503 2015-03-26T03:42:35+00:00

col:1,2,3,4,5,6,7

Lenfried's 7K Hard

00:48:575 - add note. make it double same as 00:47:375 (47375|1,47375|3,47975|4,47975|1) -
00:50:375 - add note to 7
00:50:975 - ^ 4
00:56:375 - ^ 6
00:56:675 - ^ 6
01:01:775 (61775|3) - remove
01:33:875 - add note
01:34:475 - ^
01:44:075 - ^
01:46:475 - ^
01:48:875 - ^
01:50:975 - ^
01:51:275 - ^

7K Normal

00:26:675 (26675|4) - remove
00:28:175 - add note make it double.
00:30:575 - ^
00:32:975 - ^
00:33:575 - ^
00:34:175 - ^
00:36:575 - ^
00:37:775 - ^
00:41:375 - ^
00:44:975 - ^
00:47:375 - ^
00:49:775 - ^
00:50:975 - add double note
00:52:175 - ^
00:52:775 - ^
00:53:375 - ^
00:54:575 - ^
00:55:175 - ^
00:55:775 - ^
00:56:975 - ^
00:59:375 - ^
00:59:975 - ^
01:00:575 - ^
01:01:175 - ^
01:30:575 - ^
01:31:175 - ^
01:32:975 - ^
01:31:775 - ^
01:33:575 - ^
01:34:175 - ^
01:35:375 - ^
01:37:775 - ^
01:38:975 - ^
^^^^^^^^^^please thin it again about this mod. because it's like You are not consistent. sometime you use single note, sometime you use double note, just for same sound. what are trying for ?

please reply before
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schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-26T10:23:43+00:00

Frim4503 wrote:

col:1,2,3,4,5,6,7

7K Normal
00:26:675 (26675|4) - remove
00:28:175 - add note make it double.
00:30:575 - ^
00:32:975 - ^
00:33:575 - ^
00:34:175 - ^
00:36:575 - ^
00:37:775 - ^
00:41:375 - ^
00:44:975 - ^
00:47:375 - ^
00:49:775 - ^
00:50:975 - add double note
00:52:175 - ^
00:52:775 - ^
00:53:375 - ^
00:54:575 - ^
00:55:175 - ^
00:55:775 - ^
00:56:975 - ^
00:59:375 - ^
00:59:975 - ^
01:00:575 - ^
01:01:175 - ^
01:30:575 - ^
01:31:175 - ^
01:32:975 - ^
01:31:775 - ^
01:33:575 - ^
01:34:175 - ^
01:35:375 - ^
01:37:775 - ^
01:38:975 - ^
^^^^^^^^^^please thin it again about this mod. because it's like You are not consistent. sometime you use single note, sometime you use double note, just for same sound. what are trying for ?

made adjustment and add 1 note on the red line, and no to the rest. i only use 1 if there is sustained LN, this is normal, i don't want to overuse 3 notes.
i use 2 notes to express those strong beat at red lines whenever possible (if there is no LN)
my placing is consistent, i have pitched instrument hitsound, that's why some parts at white line are also using 2 notes, because there is pitched instrument that i expressed using short notes.
this is a slow / peaceful song, it's more appropriate to also incorporate the melody.
thanks for your mods <3

please reply before
expired 26/4/2015

all diffs, and lenfried's diff updated.

shionelove

1,521 posts

Joined September 2010

shionelove 2015-03-26T14:05:44+00:00

recheck and nothing
piano

btw

schwarzvgrune wrote:
Frim4503 wrote:

col:1,2,3,4,5,6,7

7K Normal
00:26:675 (26675|4) - remove
00:28:175 - add note make it double.
00:30:575 - ^
00:32:975 - ^
00:33:575 - ^
00:34:175 - ^
00:36:575 - ^
00:37:775 - ^
00:41:375 - ^
00:44:975 - ^
00:47:375 - ^
00:49:775 - ^
00:50:975 - add double note
00:52:175 - ^
00:52:775 - ^
00:53:375 - ^
00:54:575 - ^
00:55:175 - ^
00:55:775 - ^
00:56:975 - ^
00:59:375 - ^
00:59:975 - ^
01:00:575 - ^
01:01:175 - ^
01:30:575 - ^
01:31:175 - ^
01:32:975 - ^
01:31:775 - ^
01:33:575 - ^
01:34:175 - ^
01:35:375 - ^
01:37:775 - ^
01:38:975 - ^
^^^^^^^^^^please thin it again about this mod. because it's like You are not consistent. sometime you use single note, sometime you use double note, just for same sound. what are trying for ?

made adjustment and add 1 note on the red line, and no to the rest. i only use 1 if there is sustained LN, this is normal, i don't want to overuse 3 notes.
i use 2 notes to express those strong beat at red lines whenever possible (if there is no LN)
my placing is consistent, i have pitched instrument hitsound, that's why some parts at white line are also using 2 notes, because there is pitched instrument that i expressed using short notes.
this is a slow / peaceful song, it's more appropriate to also incorporate the melody.
thanks for your mods <3

please reply before
expired 26/4/2015
all diffs, and lenfried's diff updated.

you didn't change everything?if so,i should deny kudos

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-26T15:41:15+00:00

thank you for the icon >_<

meii18

3,577 posts

Joined October 2013

meii18 2015-03-26T21:19:34+00:00

:3

Last edited by meii18 2015-03-28T00:00:52+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

lenpai

Beatmap Nominator

1,772 posts

Joined December 2014

lenpai 2015-03-27T01:53:28+00:00

Frim4503 wrote:

col:1,2,3,4,5,6,7

Lenfried's 7K Hard
00:48:575 - add note. make it double same as 00:47:375 (47375|1,47375|3,47975|4,47975|1) - won't do four noters in sections like this
00:50:375 - add note to 7 ^
00:50:975 - ^ 4 special case, not literally a four noter but a gracenote comes after this snap
00:56:375 - ^ 6 Although I break the pattern sometimes, it applies here where 3 notes are present only after every two red lines
00:56:675 - ^ 6 I try avoiding triples for whites
01:01:775 (61775|3) - remove ^2
01:33:875 - add note
01:34:475 - ^
01:44:075 - ^
01:46:475 - ^
01:48:875 - ^
01:50:975 - ^
01:51:275 - ^
the rest of the rejected "add note" are covered by the last few things I said
[/box]

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Just checking.

no update

wow grun you did the HS mod thx!

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-03-27T10:53:09+00:00

Lenfried- wrote:
Just checking.

no update

wow grun you did the HS mod thx!

yes, and i was so busy that i forgot to tell you that i did those ;w; so sorry about that >_<
i was online to recheck the diffs and went offline again.
let's see where this go ;w;

hehe

1,961 posts

Joined November 2012

hehe 2015-04-03T11:24:33+00:00

hi, late sorry.

General

would be nicer to see consistent combo colours on all 3 standard diffs/
Lazer's Normal
i really suggest sticking to 1 SV, and 1 DS. map looks too messy right now.
00:02:675 (3) - could be a regular 1/2 slider instead? to follow the music better. removing 00:02:975 (4) - is the main point since it has no sound.
00:09:875 (2) - delete this, it has no purpose.
00:10:775 (1) - would make much more sense as a repeat slider to follow 1/4s.
00:13:175 (4) - nc, new measure.
00:15:875 (1,2) - 00:18:275 (1,2) - bad polarity, player has to play a 3/4 rhythm spacing, hard to read. also bad DS. i suggest: http://i.imgur.com/U93ohPX.png
00:24:875 (6) - you can make slider, its bad to have too many circles in a row, confusing.
00:27:275 (3) - 1/2 slider, since focus is on guitar, not percussion.
sorry but this difficulty still requires much more attention and signifcant remap before it can be considered for ranking. apart from the points discussed previously, take these points in mind:
1. focus on one audio track (percussion or guitar?), switching between them constantly is downright confusing, like: 00:35:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - what is this
2. use more of the playfield, now its really underutilized: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2967248
3. get more experience, usage of current patterns is very lackluster and could be improved. study other maps works best.
4. strictly follow DS, this is a must, its a normal difficulty.
5. work on more consistency with same sounds in the pattern. its fine to vary a bit but make sure all important beats are emphasised adequately.
Lazer's Hard
same points as above, and don't do gimmicky stuff like: 00:21:875 (5,6,1,2,3) - in a Hard, its too confusing.
00:25:475 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - still very inconsistent switching in audio tracks, very hard to follow rhythm.

A's Insane
00:03:125 (1) - 00:05:525 (1) - 00:14:225 (1) - inadequate emphasis on the obvious loud guitar strum. its on a sliderend.
00:11:525 (1,2,1) - well i see wht you're trying but they aren't lined up right
00:15:875 (1,2,3) - i see no reason for ending on 1/8. especially if you have to silence the sliderends. sure its an extended sound, but regular sliders are fine. in fact even if you want to keep them, don't silence the ends, its VERY awkward to play since 'echoing' hitsounds that aren't directly at the 5% part will be reduced in volume as well.
00:18:800 (2,1) - odd spacing here.
somewhat of the same issues with the other difficulties, with both the loud guitar and percussion in the background, you're constantly switching between them with no actual sense put into it. especially with an Insane where DS can vary, you're not using many reading tools that can help the players deduce the rhythm at hand. let's start with this section 00:25:475 -
- 00:25:475 - first off loud guitar is on sliderend. a w k w a r d
1. 00:26:675 (1,2,3) - guitar is adquately followed here, good job.
2. 00:28:325 (2,3,4) - switching to percussion when no loud guitar, this is fine.
3. 00:32:975 - things go bad from here, sliderend on guitar strum AND percussion clap.
4. 00:33:575 (4) - no emphasis on a clap, but just a random pattern.
5. 00:34:175 - here as well.
6. 00:35:975 (3) - focusing on percussion when there is a loud guitar strum, no emphasis.
7. 00:37:475 (2,3,4,1) - here as well.
to summarize, all standard difficulties, although yes, thoroughly modded(?), still lack in quality. in fact they cannot be considered for ranking at all. without significant reworking existing issues will still persist no matter how many mods you get. the comments in the Normal generally summarize my thoughts on how this could be improved.

good luck, you can PM me for any questions.

Avishay

1,250 posts

Joined April 2013

Avishay 2015-04-03T12:29:50+00:00

handsome wrote:
hi, late sorry.

A's Insane
00:03:125 (1) - 00:05:525 (1) - 00:14:225 (1) - inadequate emphasis on the obvious loud guitar strum. its on a sliderend. And what's the point? They play and sound just fine.
00:11:525 (1,2,1) - well i see wht you're trying but they aren't lined up right When did it say they were supposed to be lined up?
00:15:875 (1,2,3) - i see no reason for ending on 1/8. especially if you have to silence the sliderends. sure its an extended sound, but regular sliders are fine. in fact even if you want to keep them, don't silence the ends, its VERY awkward to play since 'echoing' hitsounds that aren't directly at the 5% part will be reduced in volume as well. The slider ends 5% exists because I do not want the hitsounds to play. This pattern emphasizes the start of every slider, which is the start of every new strong sound in the music. It is not possible to create sliders without ends, I want the sliders to be like one slider that is cut into 3 sections, without hearing the end of each section, becasue there isn't.
00:18:800 (2,1) - odd spacing here. Not really.. It is a full beat on 200 bpm, pretty easy to read and plays nicely.
somewhat of the same issues with the other difficulties, with both the loud guitar and percussion in the background, you're constantly switching between them with no actual sense put into it. especially with an Insane where DS can vary, you're not using many reading tools that can help the players deduce the rhythm at hand. let's start with this section 00:25:475 -
00:25:475 - first off loud guitar is on sliderend. a w k w a r d Why awkward? Is every strong beat awkward on a sliderend? I don't think so..
00:26:675 (1,2,3) - guitar is adquately followed here, good job.
00:28:325 (2,3,4) - switching to percussion when no loud guitar, this is fine.
00:32:975 - things go bad from here, sliderend on guitar strum AND percussion clap. Right, changed.
00:33:575 (4) - no emphasis on a clap, but just a random pattern. Changed.
00:34:175 - here as well. Chagned whole pattern.
00:35:975 (3) - focusing on percussion when there is a loud guitar strum, no emphasis. Loud? No, that's not loud..
00:37:475 (2,3,4,1) - here as well. I follow both here and I think it is just fine.
to summarize, all standard difficulties, although yes, thoroughly modded(?), still lack in quality. in fact they cannot be considered for ranking at all. without significant reworking existing issues will still persist no matter how many mods you get. the comments in the Normal generally summarize my thoughts on how this could be improved.
good luck, you can PM me for any questions.

Thanks.

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Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-04-03T20:35:51+00:00

handsome wrote:

Lazer's Normal
i really suggest sticking to 1 SV, and 1 DS. map looks too messy right now. All set to DS 1/SV 1
00:02:675 (3) - could be a regular 1/2 slider instead? to follow the music better. removing 00:02:975 (4) - is the main point since it has no sound. Removed
00:09:875 (2) - delete this, it has no purpose. Removed
00:10:775 (1) - would make much more sense as a repeat slider to follow 1/4s. Applied
00:13:175 (4) - nc, new measure. Made new combo
00:15:875 (1,2) - 00:18:275 (1,2) - bad polarity, player has to play a 3/4 rhythm spacing, hard to read. also bad DS. i suggest: http://i.imgur.com/U93ohPX.png You're right, changed
00:24:875 (6) - you can make slider, its bad to have too many circles in a row, confusing. Made a slider
00:27:275 (3) - 1/2 slider, since focus is on guitar, not percussion.
sorry but this difficulty still requires much more attention and signifcant remap before it can be considered for ranking. apart from the points discussed previously, take these points in mind:
focus on one audio track (percussion or guitar?), switching between them constantly is downright confusing, like: 00:35:075 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - what is this
use more of the playfield, now its really underutilized: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2967248
get more experience, usage of current patterns is very lackluster and could be improved. study other maps works best.
strictly follow DS, this is a must, its a normal difficulty.
work on more consistency with same sounds in the pattern. its fine to vary a bit but make sure all important beats are emphasised adequately.
Lazer's Hard
same points as above, and don't do gimmicky stuff like: 00:21:875 (5,6,1,2,3) - in a Hard, its too confusing. Alright...
00:25:475 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - still very inconsistent switching in audio tracks, very hard to follow rhythm. I don't find it hard to follow at all

Entire normal re-mapped, once more.

Lazer's Normal

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Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
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Artist:Nakagawa Ken
ArtistUnicode:中河 健
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Source:Atelier III - Grand Phantasm
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Alarido

1,744 posts

Joined September 2012

Alarido 2015-04-04T15:01:20+00:00

Let's do it right NOW !!!

[General]
Need confirmation about metadata.

About Source, there's an "Iris" you forgot to add after "Athelier".

About song(Artist + Title). Googled a bit and found there's a *fluffy* in the title between "the" and "Workshop" (acording to this site). Not sure yet. I'll be asking there.

:asking-for-meta:

[Insane]
Hitsounds feel good.
Rhythms a bit odd for me, since it follows mostly the guitar, which is very uncommon in osu (or, at least, for me).

* Why not use the same combo colours (including amount) as like as Normal and Hard uses?

01:21:125 (3,4,5) - Triplet a bit unreasonable, even with feint/weak/overlapped sounds in backs. Try to delete the middle note (4), so you can make it a duplet or with some spacing between (3,5). A duplet feels more recommended.

01:21:425 (6) - If you don't want remove a triplet from the map, here's a good place for a triplet.

01:37:475 (6,1) - Spacing here feels a bit misleading -- unless it fits some purpose. But let's it get forth.

[Lazer's Hard]
♥ Nothing felt bad. and Hitsound still good.

[Lazer's Normal]

Spacing here is a bit variable (from 0.45x on 01:25:175 (4,1) - up to 1.22x on 01:06:275 (2,3) - O_O), especially for a diff that's intended to be the easier-of-the-mapset. Please check it through, deep and carefully.
00:10:775 (1,2,3) - This rhythm feels a bit misleading. It looks more alike this pic below:

00:37:475 (1,3) - A bit overlapping one each other. Nothing so terrible, just something a bit not-so-pleasant-to-the-eyes.
00:51:875 (1,3) - The (3) gets a bit (or a lot?) obfuscated under the (1)'s head. It may be not so readable as a Normal is required to be.
01:30:875 (4,5) - This part of the rhythm feels misleaded too >< Suggest below:

That's all for the Std diffs.

Clearly, Normal diff need some more improvements.

schwarzvgrune

1,214 posts

Joined April 2014

Topic Starter

schwarzvgrune 2015-04-04T15:16:29+00:00

Alarido wrote:
Let's do it right NOW !!!

[General]
Need confirmation about metadata.

About Source, there's an "Iris" you forgot to add after "Athelier".

About song(Artist + Title). Googled a bit and found there's a *fluffy* in the title between "the" and "Workshop" (acording to this site). Not sure yet. I'll be asking there.
:asking-for-meta:

Hi, I have asked RuberusuScarlet to do the metadata.
our current metadata is correct. the link that you sent to me is actually a soundtrack for another game called "Mana Khemia, Alchemist of Al-Revis"
this game is ‘Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm“
http://vgmdb.net/album/9860
track 06 for the info.
as to why i only put Nakagawa Ken on the artist name, this is because for this song only Nakagawa Ken contributes (they have artist information for each sountrack.) and I have the full album data.
thank you for rechecking the metadata >_<
AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HELPING WITH THIS ;w; I WILL DO MY BEST WITH THE OTHER GDERS AS WELL! >_<

and about the source, it seems that its an error on my part! i'll fix it asap!

Lazer

417 posts

Joined July 2012

Lazer 2015-04-04T15:25:51+00:00

Alarido wrote:
[Lazer's Hard]
♥ Nothing felt bad. and Hitsound still good. ♥

[Lazer's Normal]
Spacing here is a bit variable (from 0.45x on 01:25:175 (4,1) - up to 1.22x on 01:06:275 (2,3) - O_O), especially for a diff that's intended to be the easier-of-the-mapset. Please check it through, deep and carefully. My bad, I've fixed it
00:10:775 (1,2,3) - This rhythm feels a bit misleading. It looks more alike this pic below: Changed it
00:37:475 (1,3) - A bit overlapping one each other. Nothing so terrible, just something a bit not-so-pleasant-to-the-eyes. I've made them different
00:51:875 (1,3) - The (3) gets a bit (or a lot?) obfuscated under the (1)'s head. It may be not so readable as a Normal is required to be. Made 4 obfuscate under (1) for more readability
01:30:875 (4,5) - This part of the rhythm feels misleaded too >< Suggest below: Changed

That's all for the Std diffs.

Clearly, Normal diff need some more improvements.

Heh, I'm not the best normal mapper- I try though~!

Lazer's Normal

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: 107 Welcome to the Workshop!.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 61475
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.5

[Metadata]
Title:Welcome to the Workshop!
TitleUnicode:Welcome to the Workshop!
Artist:Nakagawa Ken
ArtistUnicode:中河 健
Creator:schwarzvgrune
Version:Lazer's Normal
Source:Atelier III - Grand Phantasm
Tags:Gust NIS Daisuke Achiwa Avishay Nardoxyribonucleic Lazer ikin5050 Lenfried-
BeatmapID:614485
BeatmapSetID:177709

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3.3
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:5
SliderMultiplier:1.6
SliderTickRate:2

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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schwarzvgrune

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schwarzvgrune 2015-04-04T15:59:28+00:00

i have self-confirmed the metadata through the following sources.
english = http://vgmdb.net/album/9860
japanese = http://www21.atwiki.jp/gamemusicbest100/pages/1514.html

please redl all of the diffs for finalised metadata.

meii18

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meii18 2015-04-04T18:26:19+00:00

Why Alarido placed a star icon ? This map was taiko'd and piano'd o_O

Kyubey

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Kyubey 2015-04-04T18:34:40+00:00

Because they can.

meii18

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meii18 2015-04-04T20:50:45+00:00

Kyubey wrote:
Because they can.

I know but this map was taiko'd and piano'd and the next icon should be the bubble

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