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Savage Genius feat. Oomi Tomoe - Maze (TV-Size)

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alvisto
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, October 28, 2009 at 3:28:15 AM

Artist: Savage Genius feat. Oomi Tomoe
Title: Maze (TV-Size)
Source: Pandora Hearts OST
Tags: Pandora Hearts ED Ending theme Anime
BPM: 138
Filesize: 12585kb
Play Time: 01:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (4.5 stars, 176 notes)
  2. Beginner (3.01 stars, 118 notes)
  3. Maze (4.92 stars, 285 notes)
Download: Savage Genius feat. Oomi Tomoe - Maze (TV-Size)
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My 6th beatmap. 1st ED of the anime "Pandora Hearts !" <3

---------------------------------------------------------ANOTHER NO-ONE-WANT-TO-READ MAP DIARY---------------------------------------------
SPOILER
I was bored, and waiting for a BAT to look at my map is so HARD and DIFFICULT. Guess I will fill my time with this.... *orz*

Special thanks to all those who had helped me with timing directly or indirectly :

Azure_Kyte
blissfulyoshi
soradg123
Shinde
Alace
Zekira
(used his timing suggestion as I think his one are the most accurate) =D



Special thanks to Azure_Kyte for the skin, PShit help, test-playing and moral support as a good friend and buddy. :3

Special thanks also to Alace who gave me a private tutorial session on how to improve my jumps and also many other tips that further strengthen my mapping skill.

And also a big thanks *bows* to all the following who have helped me and supported me for my 5th beatmap journey :
soradg123 : OSU! timing help thanks ! =D
Shinde : Us messing and experimenting around with timing. xD
satosid : yay for support ! (but I believe this star is random, which kinda pleasantly surprised me ! Thanks ! =D)
Alace : ^ ( orz this " ^ " looks like a mod post )
gdeath : ahhh, thanks friend for always test-playing the map for me and answer my every mod request... xD
blissfulyoshi : *#mod* HAI YOSHI ! HAI ALVIS ! BAI YOSHI ! BB !
abalee : Thanks for responding to all my 3 PM mod request, Really, I thank you, your comment really helped me alot in boosting my confidence. =D
Azure_Kyte : Tamodachi~
Shinxyn : Really, I don't mind map design nazi mod as long as it's reasonable and it's consturctive, and I think you have done that. =P
rust45 : He teached me another thing which I NEVER KNOW. gosh.
LoogieSquared : Have you eaten my kudosu cookie already ?
osuplayer111 : I assume your name is Andre ? *judging from your avatar*
eee : I always wonder who is eee and who is EEeee... orz
ccbp : Sorry ccbp but I really tried hard to rank that Twins map, but seems kinda hard at the moment. D:
ignorethis : =D I still remembered your mod post for my 1st map. Thanks for accompanying me growing. xD
kino77 : I like Pandora's Heart too ! =D
Zekira : Yay for you getting your timing instinct back ! =D
Mafiamaster : Thanks for modding my map~~ xD :3 =D
Torran

alvisto wrote:

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Your description sorta got messed up...

Anyways, OSU! Timing Help!
You only need one timing section as the BPM is constant throughout the song:
BPM 138
Offset 380

Starred~!
Topic Starter
alvisto

soradg123 wrote:

Anyways, OSU! Timing Help!
You only need one timing section as the BPM is constant throughout the song:
BPM 138
Offset 380

Starred~!
Thanks for the help soradg123, but this offset is obviously too late. 25% playback rate reveals everything. The reason why I feel this is difficult to time is, the vocal doesn't SYNC with the background drum beats.... ORZ
Shinde
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
dkey
alvisto Fight~!
Alace
Offset:362 (delete other red lines)
and resnap notes carefully

<Maze>
00:29:06 (5,6,7) - spacing
00:30:25 (1,2,3) - lol stack
00:34:06 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,1,2,3,4,5) - lol spacing here (jumps are bad IMO )
00:44:58 (7,8) - use a slider here??
00:58:50 (7,8) - ^
01:14:69 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3) - use custom clap/2 divisor (white line only) or don`t use it
01:20:35 (1,2,3,4,5) - confusing jumps (3/4+1/2 divisor)
gdeath
[Beginner]
over diff 5?are you sure?its Beginner diff,rihgt?i think you should make this setting lower
00:29:92 (4) - new combo 00:26:44 (1,2,3) - consistent
00:31:66 (7) - ^
01:18:62 (1) - remove new combo?

[Advanced]
00:32:97 (1) - remove new combo
00:34:05 (2) - new combo

[Maze]
00:36:01 (9) - new combo
00:59:05 (8) - ^

i like the last pattern. <3
star*
Topic Starter
alvisto

Alace wrote:

Offset:362 (delete other red lines)
and resnap notes carefully [/color]
<Maze>
00:29:06 (5,6,7) - spacing orz I forget to fix this after removing several notes. I can't sense it when I test-play it ! What the....
00:30:25 (1,2,3) - lol stack Too hard ? D: Anyway, fixed. ;p
00:34:06 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,1,2,3,4,5) - lol spacing here (jumps are bad IMO ) What have I done here.....My mistake, fixed. I keep the last jump though, see what you think about it ?
00:44:58 (7,8) - use a slider here?? Sure, fits more I guess
00:58:50 (7,8) - ^ Yap
01:14:69 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3) - use custom clap/2 divisor (white line only) or don`t use it Use another clap, since I think customclap2 should be only specially used in 2 places.
01:20:35 (1,2,3,4,5) - confusing jumps (3/4+1/2 divisor) Fixed.
Thanks for the fantastic timing and mod Alace. =D

gdeath wrote:

[Beginner]
over diff 5?are you sure?its Beginner diff,rihgt?i think you should make this setting lower Fixed.
00:29:92 (4) - new combo 00:26:44 (1,2,3) - consistent
00:31:66 (7) - ^
01:18:62 (1) - remove new combo?

[Advanced]
00:32:97 (1) - remove new combo
00:34:05 (2) - new combo

[Maze]
00:36:01 (9) - new combo
00:59:05 (8) - ^

All your suggested combo mod is very reasonable and I often miss to look for combo when mapping coz I tend to pay attention toi other stuff myself, thus all suggestions have been adhered to. =3

i like the last pattern. <3
star* Thanks, I like it too =D
Thanks for the quick response and mod gdeath ! =D
blissfulyoshi
Beginner:
SPOILER
Combo mod:
00:29:92 (1) - if you are following the lyrics, remove this new combo
00:43:84 (3) - new combo for lyrics
00:56:01 (3) - ^

Timing section mod:
00:02:10 - unused timing section
00:02:97 - make a quarter note earlier
00:04:27 - ^
00:11:53 - unused timing section
00:50:77 - unneeded timing section since the previous timing section has the same hitsound volume and type
01:01:23 - make a quarter note earlier
01:10:36 - unneeded timing section since the previous timing section has the same hitsound volume and type
01:13:18 - I count 5 unused timing sections in this area

Advanced:
SPOILER
Combo mod:
00:22:10 (1) - since you didn't put any new combos for other instruments snaps after lyrics, remove new combo
00:27:97 (2) - new combo for new line of lyrics? (can go either way for the next 3)
00:34:92 (3) - ^
00:36:01 (6) - ^

Timing section mod:
00:02:10 - move back a quarter note
00:02:97 - ^
00:12:28 - ^
and the rest were covered in irc

Maze:
SPOILER
Add a spinner to prevent ties....?

Combo mod:
00:09:05 (7) - new combo like the other diffs?
00:27:97 (2) - same as advanced
00:30:25 (1) - since you didn't put any new combos for other instruments snaps after lyrics, remove new combo
00:34:05 (2) - same as advanced
00:34:92 (5) - ^

Nice map. Star.
abalee
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
alvisto

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Beginner:
SPOILER
Combo mod:
00:29:92 (1) - if you are following the lyrics, remove this new combo Remove for now, coz I think gdeath's pattern of combo mod is not bad too, but let's see how others think... ;P
00:43:84 (3) - new combo for lyrics
00:56:01 (3) - ^
Sure !
Timing section mod:
00:02:10 - unused timing section
00:02:97 - make a quarter note earlier
00:04:27 - ^
00:11:53 - unused timing section
00:50:77 - unneeded timing section since the previous timing section has the same hitsound volume and type
01:01:23 - make a quarter note earlier
01:10:36 - unneeded timing section since the previous timing section has the same hitsound volume and type
01:13:18 - I count 5 unused timing sections in this areaAll timing sections fixed. =D


Will finish mod later. Looking forward to it...
Also I would like to add more request to the mod type. Please do design nazi mod too (like symmetrical, align and stuff like that.... ) alongside with the initial combo mod request... thanks =D

abalee wrote:

maze:
beautiful. Thanks for the praise. I need it...

advanced:
01:09:71 (1) - take a try to extend this circle to 01:11:23 (next white line) and use normal - normal hitsound.
ORZ, I missed this. Of course. =D

beginner:
00:17:31 (3) - how about use custom hitsound finish? Thanks for clearing my dilenma. Fixed
00:19:92 (2) - ^
01:08:18 (1) - use normal - normal like advanced. Fixed

you are a talented mapper. Gratz. =O Thanks. I glad that you like it. xD

starz.
Azure_Kite
Cleaned up an image at mappers request :3

Shinxyn
custom hitsounds! <3

Beginner-
Nazi-
SPOILER
00:01:23 (3) - Personally, this sliderslide-whistle annoyed me >_<
01:22:97 (2,3,4) - this pattern is lovely on the other two diffs, but doesn't seem very Beginner friendly... since its not spaced out and it follows 1/4 beats

Advanced-
Nazi~
SPOILER
00:42:97 (3) - add whistle to have this sound like 00:41:23 (2,3)?
00:45:36 (8) - add whistle (to keep up pace?)
>_< nothing to really point out

Maze-
Again, only nazi Dx
SPOILER
00:01:23 (5) - New combo (cuz of 1/4 beat)
00:16:01 (3) - ultra nazi- right a tick >_<
00:19:49 (3) - ultra nazi- up a tick
00:25:58 (8) - new combo (to look like 00:22:10 (1)?)
00:32:75 (5) - whistle? (to sound like 00:31:01 (4,5,6))
00:51:88 (5) - either this is spaced odd (doesn't seem like a place for a jump) OR 00:51:66 (4) seems to go on the 1/4 beat (00:51:55)
01:06:44 (3,4) - this pattern is getting old... copy paste 01:04:71 (1,2) and flip it? xD

I don't like hitsound mixes (having two hitsounds on one beat, in your map's case, its the soft whistle+normal hit)
Topic Starter
alvisto

Shinxyn wrote:

custom hitsounds! <3 I <3 it too. =D Thanks !

Beginner-
Nazi-
SPOILER
00:01:23 (3) - Personally, this sliderslide-whistle annoyed me >_< Thanks for pointing this out shinxyn. I changed this part to custom normal hitsound 2 on all difficulties as I think silent slider plus normal hitsound is better. =P
01:22:97 (2,3,4) - this pattern is lovely on the other two diffs, but doesn't seem very Beginner friendly... since its not spaced out and it follows 1/4 beats I know what you mean, I was indecisive in this too. Let's see what others think first. =P

Advanced-
Nazi~
SPOILER
00:42:97 (3) - add whistle to have this sound like 00:41:23 (2,3)?
00:45:36 (8) - add whistle (to keep up pace?) Sure, added these 2 whistles
>_< nothing to really point out

Maze-
Again, only nazi Dx
SPOILER
00:01:23 (5) - New combo (cuz of 1/4 beat) Hmmm... you have your point, but I like to keep the original way. =P
00:16:01 (3) - ultra nazi- right a tick >_< I always welcome and accept ultra nazi that might make my map look better, so, don't >.< there. =P Fixed !
00:19:49 (3) - ultra nazi- up a tick Fixed as well. =P
00:25:58 (8) - new combo (to look like 00:22:10 (1)?) Sure
00:32:75 (5) - whistle? (to sound like 00:31:01 (4,5,6)) Good ear ! Sure
00:51:88 (5) - either this is spaced odd (doesn't seem like a place for a jump) OR 00:51:66 (4) seems to go on the 1/4 beat (00:51:55) Wow, good eye, fixed. And it's the latter one. =P
01:06:44 (3,4) - this pattern is getting old... copy paste 01:04:71 (1,2) and flip it? xD xD actually I used this pattern to draw the letter "XII" which correspondent to the background video. =P In fact there are some parts that I specifically map according to the video. =D

I don't like hitsound mixes (having two hitsounds on one beat, in your map's case, its the soft whistle+normal hit)Ahh... Let's see...
Thanks for the quick response shinxyn ! =D appreciate it ! =D

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Cleaned up an image at mappers request :3
Thanks brother. =D
rust45
Lower case artist?
You have a hitcircle but no hitcircle overlay, fix it!

[Beginner]
Could use a break so the newbs don't get tired.

[Advanced]
01:22:97 (4,5,6) - Looks better stacked IMO, do it for the rest please.

[Maze]
Same as advanced at the end.
Topic Starter
alvisto

rust45 wrote:

Lower case artist? orz . Fix.
You have a hitcircle but no hitcircle overlay, fix it! Force default skin already. =P Thanks for explaining that to me in IRC> =D

[Beginner]
Could use a break so the newbs don't get tired. Let's see....

[Advanced]
01:22:97 (4,5,6) - Looks better stacked IMO, do it for the rest please. Sorry, have to disagree with that. XD

[Maze]
Same as advanced at the end.
Thanks for the mod rust ! =D =D
anonymous_old
Begginer
SPOILER

00:08:18 (6,7,1) : You don't want to layer things in an easy map.
00:12:427 : Add a beat here.
00:12:644 : Add a beat here.
00:14:049 : Add a beat here.
00:20:796 : Remove 4 and 5 and try something like this: (screenshot)
01:22:97 (2,3,4) : Replace these with 1 slider that repeats.
01:24:71 (2,3,4) : Replace these with 1 slider that repeats.
01:26:44 (2,3,4) : Replace these with 1 slider that repeats.

Advanced
SPOILER

00:06:340 : Add a beat here.
00:44:057 : Delete 4 and 5, then put a slider in their place. (screenshot)

Maze
SPOILER

No visible faults.
Topic Starter
alvisto

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Advanced:
SPOILER
Combo mod:
00:22:10 (1) - since you didn't put any new combos for other instruments snaps after lyrics, remove new combo Cause there's only certain parts where there's sufficient time for other instruments snaps after lyrics, so Ima keep this. =P
00:27:97 (2) - new combo for new line of lyrics? (can go either way for the next 3) Sure
00:34:92 (3) - ^ XD Sorry, no. (and strangely enough, I think all this is in 1 lyric. orz)
00:36:01 (6) - ^ Sure !

Timing section mod:
00:02:10 - move back a quarter note
00:02:97 - ^
00:12:28 - ^
and the rest were covered in irc All fixed

Maze:
SPOILER
Add a spinner to prevent ties....? orz I forgot, but I can't think of better palce to put a spinner here...

Combo mod:
00:09:05 (7) - new combo like the other diffs? Sure !
00:27:97 (2) - same as advanced Sure
00:30:25 (1) - since you didn't put any new combos for other instruments snaps after lyrics, remove new combo XD Sorry, no , adn the same reason. =P
00:34:05 (2) - same as advanced ^
00:34:92 (5) - ^ ^

Nice map. Star.
Thanks for the mod yoshi~

Loogiesquared wrote:

Begginer
SPOILER

00:08:18 (6,7,1) : You don't want to layer things in an easy map. You're right. Fixed
00:12:427 : Add a beat here. Beginner is mapped mostly based on the background beats, so , sorry... XD
00:12:644 : Add a beat here.
00:14:049 : Add a beat here. Same
00:20:796 : Remove 4 and 5 and try something like this: (screenshot) No, I won't do that.
01:22:97 (2,3,4) : Replace these with 1 slider that repeats.
01:24:71 (2,3,4) : Replace these with 1 slider that repeats.
01:26:44 (2,3,4) : Replace these with 1 slider that repeats. Ok. Made my decision already, as someone mentioned it before. Changed to sliders.

Advanced
SPOILER

00:06:340 : Add a beat here. My principle in advanced is no 3 consecutive beats. XD
00:44:057 : Delete 4 and 5, then put a slider in their place. (screenshot) I think it's fine, and changing it to slider would make my *peacock* design dissapear. XD
Thanks for the mod loogie. =3 *hands kudosu cookie*
Andrea
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions, you don't have to fix, your choice.
Orange: You don't have to fix too, but is better if you do it.
Red: You have to fix this for sure!

Starts Suggestions:

All seems fine.

[Beginner]

01:06:44 (3) - Too far from (2).

[Advanced]

00:25:58 (7) - New combo.
01:22:31 (3) - New combo.
01:22:31 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Why notes aren't snapped normally?

[Maze]

00:46:23 (11) - New combo.
Topic Starter
alvisto

osuplayer111 wrote:

Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions, you don't have to fix, your choice.
Orange: You don't have to fix too, but is better if you do it.
Red: You have to fix this for sure!

Starts Suggestions:

All seems fine.

[Beginner]

01:06:44 (3) - Too far from (2). [/color]

[Advanced]

00:25:58 (7) - New combo.[/color]
01:22:31 (3) - New combo. [/color]
01:22:31 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Why notes aren't snapped normally? I believe it is already snapped properly.

[Maze]

00:46:23 (11) - New combo. Sorry, I will have to say no. XD
Thanks for the quick response osuplayer. =D
Alace
<Maze>
00:21:23 (8,9) - 3/4 stack ??
00:38:62 (1,2,3,4,5) - crazy jumps XD try this (see pic)
01:19:49 (5,6,7) - 3/4 stack ?
01:22:10 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I will use 1/2 stack+3/4 jump personally

EDIT:about adv end part (see pic)
and use flip to other 2 patterns XD



eee
Hi alvisto
yeah, I'm kinda late on the mod, aren't I?
well, here it is, I cannot find anything wrong with the map, good job, you're getting good at this.
I just hate when I can't find anything.
star :)
Topic Starter
alvisto

Alace wrote:

<Maze>
00:21:23 (8,9) - 3/4 stack ??
00:38:62 (1,2,3,4,5) - crazy jumps XD try this (see pic)
01:19:49 (5,6,7) - 3/4 stack ?
01:22:10 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I will use 1/2 stack+3/4 jump personally
Fixing done in IRC. Thanks for the tips Alace, appreciate it. =D

eee wrote:

Hi alvisto
yeah, I'm kinda late on the mod, aren't I?
well, here it is, I cannot find anything wrong with the map, good job, you're getting good at this.
I just hate when I can't find anything.
star :)
Thanks for the taking a look eee and the star too. :) And no, I am a lot LATER than you... =P
ccbp
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Topic Starter
alvisto

ccbp wrote:

advanced:
see pic

it follows guitar, which you followed in maze.

maze:
see pic

yeah I knew you are following drums but I think this one sounds better

great work!
I agree with you for your 1st suugestion, thus I have fix that. I know what you meant by your 2nd suggestion, and it sounds not bad too, but generally I just don't like stacking 2 consecutive beats (at least atm), so I will leave as it is. =P

Thanks for the mod ccbp.
ignorethis
I really can't pick out anything wrong. This map is nearly perfect and deserves a star ^^
kino77
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Topic Starter
alvisto
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Zekira
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Topic Starter
alvisto
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Mafiamaster
Advanced~
00:40:34 (1) - The timing section here is uninherited. Inherit it then resnap.
(Or it could be the other way around with the other 2 difficulties!)

Everything else is good!

Edit: Kk, bubbled!
(Next BAT, timing check please to see if it's alright)
Topic Starter
alvisto

Mafiamaster wrote:

Advanced~
00:40:34 (1) - The timing section here is uninherited. Inherit it then resnap.
(Or it could be the other way around with the other 2 difficulties!)

Everything else is good!

Edit: Kk, bubbled!
(Next BAT, timing check please to see if it's alright)
Orz, I forgot to uninherit the other 2 difficulties' offset. Anyway, fixed in irc and thanks for the bubble mafiamaster ! =D *yay* ( a bubble finally after 2 months... xD)
James2250
sorry about slow modding...school has been busy (sees bubble)
but you can have a star :)
Larto
Raaaank
Topic Starter
alvisto
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WyndII
Alvisto... <3
but i hate that horizontal jump in Maze >.>
and that's what keeps me in playing your map lol.
Good Job <3
Topic Starter
alvisto

WyndII wrote:

Alvisto... <3
but i hate that horizontal jump in Maze >.>
and that's what keeps me in playing your map lol.
Good Job <3
Awww thanks.. :3 Let Us be the only 2 favouriting this map then , lol. =P *orz*
NatsumeRin
i know it's kinda old... but someone change online offset to +10~+12 plz..?
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