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Skillet - Comatose

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cyanberryio
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, November 18, 2009 at 8:30:23 PM

Artist: Skillet
Title: Comatose
Source: Comatose
Tags: skillet comatose GbL
BPM: 170
Filesize: 8491kb
Play Time: 03:32
Difficulties Available:
  1. Brutal (4.97 stars, 546 notes)
  2. Easy (2.05 stars, 103 notes)
  3. GbL's Normal (2.89 stars, 213 notes)
  4. Hard (4.66 stars, 366 notes)
Download: Skillet - Comatose
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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For rust45's [Album] Skillet - Comtose Project.

Thanks to all who have modded! Kudos for the effort!
rust45
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anonymous_old
hard
SPOILER

00:22:62 (1) : Too long.
00:35:54 : Break's too long.
01:04:541 : Too long of a Kiai-Time.
02:31:62 (1,2,3) : Remove the whistle hitsound.
02:49:225 : Another too-big break.

brutal
SPOILER

00:35:54 : Break's too long.
02:49:225 : Another too-big break.
02:55:09 : Spacing.
Topic Starter
cyanberryio

Loogiesquared wrote:

hard
00:22:62 (1) : Too long. no its not
00:35:54 : Break's too long. only 10 seconds...
01:04:541 : Too long of a Kiai-Time. no it isn't
02:31:62 (1,2,3) : Remove the whistle hitsound. it fits imo
02:49:225 : Another too-big break. 9 seconds? are you kidding me? this is a SHORT break! D:

brutal
00:35:54 : Break's too long. only 10 seconds...and the rest of the map is unbroken...almost...
02:49:225 : Another too-big break. uuhh.... can you please double check your modding, THERE IS NO BREAK! D:
02:55:09 : Spacing.
NOTE: You want me to help you improve your modding? Well, first of all, check your modding, you're telling me about a non-existing break, and spacing that isn't off. 10 or break isn't long, it's average, the note in the editor say 5-15 seconds per break is good. And the Kiai is the same for each diff., which I think it covers the chorus well. And double check your modding please. PLEASE. And use the fancy Ctrl-C format please! :D

I give kudosu for the effort. ;)

ALSO DON'T USE SPOILERBOXES AND SMALL FONTS FOR MODDING!
Shinde
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minyeob
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GbL
anonymous_old

Alex0686 wrote:

Loogiesquared wrote:

hard
00:22:62 (1) : Too long. no its not
00:35:54 : Break's too long. only 10 seconds...
01:04:541 : Too long of a Kiai-Time. no it isn't
02:31:62 (1,2,3) : Remove the whistle hitsound. it fits imo
02:49:225 : Another too-big break. 9 seconds? are you kidding me? this is a SHORT break! D:

brutal
00:35:54 : Break's too long. only 10 seconds...and the rest of the map is unbroken...almost...
02:49:225 : Another too-big break. uuhh.... can you please double check your modding, THERE IS NO BREAK! D:
02:55:09 : Spacing.
NOTE: You want me to help you improve your modding? Well, first of all, check your modding, you're telling me about a non-existing break, and spacing that isn't off. 10 or break isn't long, it's average, the note in the editor say 5-15 seconds per break is good. And the Kiai is the same for each diff., which I think it covers the chorus well. And double check your modding please. PLEASE. And use the fancy Ctrl-C format please! :D

I give kudosu for the effort. ;)

ALSO DON'T USE SPOILERBOXES AND SMALL FONTS FOR MODDING!
yeah, you BETTER giv me kudos.
Mismagius
Easy
00:11:33 (1) - add finish at end
00:12:74 (2) - ^
00:46:27 (4) - wtf with that little curve at start? @_@

GbL
perfect.

Hard
00:46:62 (5) - one more revert?

Brutal
Perfect.

Topic Starter
cyanberryio

Blue Dragon wrote:

Easy
00:11:33 (1) - add finish at end no, cause it isn't in the other diffs.
00:12:74 (2) - ^ ^
00:46:27 (4) - wtf with that little curve at start? @_@ fixed

Hard
00:46:62 (5) - one more revert? no, there's no beat there to place the reverse on

thanks!
Luneko
Hi ^^
These are just suggestions like i would map it so you dont have to use them :p

[Easy]
01:20:155 - Add note?
01:20:508 - May remove slider and at note?
01:21:037 - if ^ then add note!
01:21:567 - if ^ then start spinner here!
01:31:802 - Remove slider and add note?
02:20:331 - End slider here?

[Normal]
00:38:861 (4,5) - Replace these with a slider?
I like the style of this diff :)

[Hard]
01:35:155 (2,3,4,5) - these circles seems weird to me
01:36:390 (1,2,3,4) - these sliders seems weird to me
02:28:272 (2,3,4,5,6) - Replace with one long slider?
02:30:390 (2,3,4,5) - ^

[Brutal]
I loved it *.*


Star~
GbL
0_o
Delete/reinsert all of your breaks.

Easy
These are the weirdest sliders ever.
00:11:33 (1,2) - It bugs me that this isn't symmetric across the y-axis.. could you either make them symmetric or make 2 different from 1?
00:42:39 (1,2) - Move this all ahead a white tick, then add a hitcircle before 1
01:41:68 (1) - Add a hitcircle on the second red tick after
01:44:50 (1) - ^

GBL's Normal
00:18:39 (3,1,2,3,4) - Personally I would Ctrl-J all of this then move it up a little.
00:39:21 (5) - It feels better without this beat imo, the silence is cool. (move the next combo further away after)
01:42:39 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - All the white ticks is kind of dull, it would be nice if you followed the vocals a bit more here.
02:27:56 (1) - Shorten/move ahead 1/1
02:28:97 (2) - ^, then add a hitcircle in between 1 and 2
02:32:50 (1) - Start 1/1 later
02:43:80 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - zzzz
02:55:09 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Swap the 1's with the 2's so "don't wanna" is the repeat slider.
02:58:27 (3) - New combo
03:14:86 (1) - Get rid of the micro break and extend this 2 white ticks
There are a loooot of spinners in this..

Hard
00:12:74 (1) - Ctrl-R?
00:22:62 (1) - I think it'd be cool if moved the spinner ahead 1/2 or 1/1 and added a hitcircle here
00:47:68 (x) - Put something here
00:53:68 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is really choppy
01:30:92 (2,3,4,5) - Following the guitar isn't the best way to map this imo, it doesn't feel natural (same with the next part like this)
01:38:50 (x) - Add a beat?
01:38:86 (1,2,3) - same guitar thing
01:47:33 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - It'd be great if you could fit 2 more beats in after 7, it feels like it stops short right now.
01:57:03 (2,3,4,5,6) - yeah yeah guitar you get it by now :P
01:59:68 (x) - add a beat
02:30:39 (2,3,4,5,6) - I think it would be cooler if this was a mirror of the last combo
02:43:80 (x) - Add a hitcircle with a soft finish in the centre? :3
03:19:97 (x) - Add a beat?
03:24:03 (1,2,3,4,5) -
03:25:27 (3,4,5) - sounds kinda weird
03:29:68 (x) - Add a beat

I'll get to Brutal later, I gotta sleep :P
Topic Starter
cyanberryio

0_o wrote:

Hard
00:12:74 (1) - Ctrl-R? Nah, this was purposly.
00:22:62 (1) - I think it'd be cool if moved the spinner ahead 1/2 or 1/1 and added a hitcircle here no, I have it the same in all diffs.
00:53:68 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is really choppy ?
01:30:92 (2,3,4,5) - Following the guitar isn't the best way to map this imo, it doesn't feel natural (same with the next part like this) I kinda like this. ._.
01:38:50 (x) - Add a beat? Nothing to map to...(I don't map to the vocals if I don't have to...)
01:38:86 (1,2,3) - same guitar thing I kinda like this. ._.
01:47:33 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - It'd be great if you could fit 2 more beats in after 7, it feels like it stops short right now. how about just 1? >_<
01:57:03 (2,3,4,5,6) - yeah yeah guitar you get it by now :P ._.
01:59:68 (x) - add a beat no beat...
02:43:80 (x) - Add a hitcircle with a soft finish in the centre? :3 no thanks... ._. (dun like how it sounds)
03:19:97 (x) - Add a beat? beat is too soft
03:24:03 (1,2,3,4,5) - o_o

I'll get to Brutal later, I gotta sleep :P sleep well ;)
thanks! changed ones aren't shown
sesito71
[Easy]

OK ^^

[Gbl's Normal]

01:35:68 (5) - Ok, but move it a bit to the left and down (adjust it to the shape of the square) ^^


There too many breaks IMO

[Hard]

Pretty good ^^

[Brutal]

Wow, funny map :P

Star*
happy30
I think I found the perfect offset!
it's 9.906!

[Easy]

Start kiai on 62.861 (or 62.155)?

[Normal]

03:24:74 (3) - the endpoint should be 1/2 earlier or further (on a white tick at least)

[Hard]


nothing wrong

[Brutal]

I got the feeling there should be a white flash too where kiai starts.
(^ favourite part of the song)

03:31:78 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - fix the white flashes here
Topic Starter
cyanberryio

happy30 wrote:

Start kiai on 62.861 (or 62.155)? No, it start on the beat. >_> (btw, I had it starting there first but then I changed it)
thanks for the mod! (even though it went over 8 by the time you got here... o_o)
GbL
PicoLo
~Star. ;)
Eddycted
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Topic Starter
cyanberryio

Eddycted wrote:

Hey, awesome song/band!

Brutal
00:22:61 (1) - This is quite long and boring, maybe replace it with soft notes mapped to the piano? Or break here, and map the lyrics where the old break was. I don't really like mapping to the lyrics much... ._.' And I think it's just fine, it's the same in all diffs.
01:04:96 - Kiai time doesn't feel fitting, try starting it earlier (at 01:02:14). I don't see much how it fits there, it is the chorus, but I just don't like how it feels there.
02:07:08 - ^ ^ ._.'
Thanks for the mod+star! Every effort is appreciated! :D (Why everyone who posts something modding related gets kudosu! :3)
EEeee
Easy
00:39:90 (1) - remove new combo, it would look cooler, since next combo ends at a 3, so if u remove this one, it'll end at 3
01:46:788 - add a note here, when he says "You" and place it so it's stacked on 01:46:43 (2)

Gbl's Normal
this diff looks okay, just fix all breaks starting with this one 01:10:788 - fix break and all breaks after this ^^

Hard
01:57:02 (2) - new combo
02:16:96 (1) - remove new combo here, add to next note, to help spacing
03:19:61 (5) - make rebound twice more? or make it look like 03:25:43 (4,5)
fix all breaks in this diff

Brutal
Awesome dude, , , just awesome
Azure_Kite
Here's my mod

Blue = Suggestion Red = Check this

[Easy]
00:54:90 (3) - Move forward 1/2 beat?
01:32:14 (3) - Pull out the middle slider point a little to round the slider out a little?
No Problems found :)

[GbL's Normal]
00:29:31 (2) - This really doesn't fit very well,I'd swap (2) with (3), so that (3) is at 00:29:31 and the slider starts at 00:29:67.
SPOILER
1:02:84: The Kiai would be so much epic'er if it started here instead of a little later. If not that, maybe make short bursts so that the fireworks appear when the vocalist says "LIVE!" and "BREATHE!" (The ends of the sliders)
1:14:14: Same story here. Make short kiai's at "SLEEP!""and "DREAM!" (ends of the sliders)
And, the same with chorus two.
I've provided your diff with these kiai changes below. Feel free to use it if you want, then apply the bolded change if you find it useful.
Download: Skillet - Comatose (Alex0686) [GbL's Normal].osu
No other problems found :)

[Hard]
hrm... I see similar kiai opportunities in [Hard] that I saw in GbL's Normal. The white storyboard really would be complemented we with kiai fireworks ;p. Your choice whether to change them though.
01:35:84 (6) - Maybe reverse twice more?
01:47:31 (1) - Make the curve a little more pronounced
No problems found :)

[Brutal]
03:20:31 - Note here?
No problems found :)

Overall, and excellent beatmap. hopefully my kiai suggestions will be implemented, but either way it's a great song, fantastic maps, and the simple storyboard makes it that much cooler. Great job. Starred! :)
Topic Starter
cyanberryio
sorry I'm being stubborn about the kiai changes, but I like how it is, and if I changed it, I'd have three bursts, maybe limiting it's rankablity... :(

that's why I added strobes, to give that effect... >_< I originally had it like you people are saying...but i didn't like it

when I get to a computer I'll fulfill those mods
GbL
Did Azure_Kyte's modd. Ty.

Download: Skillet - Comatose (Alex0686) [GbL's Normal].osu
rust45
Here's the SB I promised I was gonna make, was gonna do it for the whole map, the what the SB syncs to get overshadowed by the other instruments so :P

Download: Skillet - Comatose (Alex0686).osb
Behon
Easy:
01:18:729 (4): New combo?

Hard:
00:39:553 (1): These 1/4 sliders don't start appearing in groups until later in the song. It feels weird to have this one here by itself, so either get rid of it or add some more near it.

Great job otherwise.
Topic Starter
cyanberryio

Behonkiss wrote:

Easy:
01:18:729 (4): New combo? Done.

Hard:
00:39:553 (1): These 1/4 sliders don't start appearing in groups until later in the song. It feels weird to have this one here by itself, so either get rid of it or add some more near it. It's like in Brutal, but I think 1/4th triplets would be mean in Hard, not changing.

Great job otherwise.
Thanks for the mod+star!
whymeman
Remember, some of the errors posted are suggestions, not directions. Edit to what you see fit.

Non-Detailed Modding v.1.0 Go~


[Easy]

00:46:25 (4,1) - Just a suggestion. Maybe the slider end can line up with (1)?

[Hard]

02:15:55 (1,2) - Looks like there's a bit more space than needed between the notes. Double check on this.
02:16:78 (4,1) - ^
02:58:61 (3,4) - ^

[Brutal]

01:11:67 (6,7) - There seems to be a bit more space than needed between these two sliders. Check into this.
01:59:84 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This shape looks a bit funny seeing the stack of notes at (2) being that close to (9).
02:48:72 (7) - Looks like it needs to go up slightly to be more even with the formation.


Overall: The map seems good so far, but just needs some touchups and fixes. I noticed only [Burtal] has a bit more SB than the other difficulties, but it should be okay. Once the fixes are done, forum PM me but make sure to double check for anything else before you do.
0_o
no kuds please

any blank spots imply add a beat

Brutal
00:42:02 (x) - Add a beat (and same with the next 2 blank spaces) just feels empty imo
00:51:64 (2,3) - I don't really get these, they sound and play kinda weird
00:57:37 (3) - ^
01:01:96 (8) - I would remove this, the silence sounds better imo
01:06:72 (5,6) - I think switching these on the timeline plays better with the song
01:09:90 (4) - Shorten by 1/2
01:35:67 (x) -
01:38:49 (x) -
01:58:25 (x) -
02:12:37 (x) -
02:54:02 (6,7) - Swap on timeline
02:56:49 (1) - The cursor is being showered by kiai here, it makes it pretty hard to see where the cursor is
03:01:08 (x) -
03:17:67 (1) - Finish on the entire slider?
03:20:14 (x) -
03:30:37 (1) - Could you do something more interesting than this slider? It feels dull compared to the rest of the map imo
03:32:84 (2) - sorta ugly
woozlez
[Easy]
00:11:321 - Change offset to this
01:14:14 and 01:15:55 - - You have flashes in normal...Put them here
01:15:64 - No Kiai Mode
01:18:37 - - Kiai Mode
01:41:67 (1)- Lower slider to bottom of stage
01:43:61 - 01:43:96 (2) - Slider leading up to (1)
01:46:43 - 01:46:79 (2) - Slider leading back down to (1)
02:04:96 and 02:06:37 - How'd you put in those flashes? Awesome
02:16:26 and 02:17:67 - Put the flashes here also

[GbL's Normal]
00:32:84 (3) - On grid level 2 (Found in view menu) make the slider have 3 movable points, put the first - 3 units to the right from the very edge of the x axis. Put the next point 4 down and 2 to the left of the previous point. Lastly, put the last one 4 down and 2 to the right of the 2nd point.
00:33:55 (4) - Should be 7 units to the right of the last point based on distance snap
00:42:02 (4) - Move directly up by distance snap
00:44:84 (4) - Move up-left with distance snap
01:04:61 (3) - Move up-right
01:07:43 - No Kiai
01:13:08 - Yes Kiai
01:14:14 - You have flashes here...Put them in easy!
01:31:78 (2-5) - These beats are tilted but the next 01:34:61 (2-5) - isn't? The tilt is nice, see if you can implement it with the 2nd 2-5 (Hint - don't need to go by distance snap with the slider at 01:33:55 (1) so you can move it to the left and then tilt)
01:39:20 (1,2,3) - Check attachment for picture of what it should look like (Use grid level 1)

Topic Starter
cyanberryio
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GbL

Alex0686 wrote:

I'm not in favor of making the above changes, sorry, Easy has weaker strobes. and hopefully this is noticed this time, and weaker kiai too.

GbL DO NOT MAKE ANY STORYBOARD/STROBE OR KIAI CHANGES!!!
I just want Brutal to have that epic feel with all the flashes and fountains. >_>;
LOL, HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Little edits:

Download: Skillet - Comatose (Alex0686) [GbL's Normal].osu
naruti
wow it looks so perfect to me
EnigmaXVII
Love this song & Great map.

Star~
Kytoxid
As a whole, the map is fine. Below are just suggestions for looks, and I honestly don't expect you to take a majority of them.

[General]

Lead-in time is probably not necessary.
Consider using a lighter shade of grey; that particular shade is also used for inactive notes on tag coop, making these maps annoying to play under that mode.

[Easy]

Fine.

[GbL's Normal]

01:02:014 (1,2) - Consider grid snapping these to line them up symmetrically.
01:30:072 (1,2,3,4,5) - Copy and flip this to align the next section; right now the beats are positioned differently.
01:39:020 (1,2,3) - Maybe take off grid snap for these to align them with the slider before?
01:47:031 (1) - I'd curve this slider in a way to either vertically line up with 2 or form a triangle with 2, 3.
02:04:025 (1,2) - See the first suggestion.
02:15:055 (1,2) - ^
02:35:031 (2) - Eh, it's almost centered already, might as well center it.
02:43:078 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^, grid snap while selecting one of the notes in the middle.
02:57:090 (2) - Line up with the 3 before it?
03:06:037 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - The first set of 5 has a few spacing irregularities; copy and paste the second set, and reflect it into place. You may need to adjust them so that they're symmetrical.
03:12:002 (4) - Move the new combo onto this note instead of the next one?

[Hard]

01:38:084 (1,2,3) - These triplets felt a bit awkward.
02:00:002 (3) - Move it a bit to the left to be parallel with your sliders.
02:38:014 (1) - Stick it under 4's endpoint?
02:39:090 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - V is crooked; intentional?

[Brutal]

Drain's a little high.

Otherwise very nice, have a star~
whymeman
Hmm...

Well done.... except that [GbL's Normal] is missing the Tags. You also forgot to put GbL into the Tags as well.

Just fix that and i'll bubble.

Edit: Well done. *Bubbles*
Larto
;D
Derekku
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