If the graphics are shitty but that the story is great, I will still like the game imosshix_ wrote:
always the story but also a good graphics
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What makes a perfect game?
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thatswhatimsayin'brothersametdze wrote:
a game's replayability
how many emotions does it trigger on me, even if it's not replayable, even if the story is not objectively good, if you play it once, maybe it's 3 hour long, but in those 3 hours you feel a lot of emotions, that is what matters
Soosuisaperfectgameforyou-Remi wrote:
thatswhatimsayin'brothersametdze wrote:
a game's replayability
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quitwI AM VERY SMART wrote:
Soosuisaperfectgameforyou-Remi wrote:
thatswhatimsayin'brothersametdze wrote:
a game's replayability
Addiction
YOUREHEREFOREVER-Remi wrote:
quitwI AM VERY SMART wrote:
Soosuisaperfectgameforyou-Remi wrote:
thatswhatimsayin'brothersametdze wrote:
a game's replayability
yeah fr the shitty graphics can give some old vibeI AM VERY SMART wrote:
If the graphics are shitty but that the story is great, I will still like the game imosshix_ wrote:
always the story but also a good graphics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkLLHA8Ib0x82VWPYiNXP8YzeASuF32t8aR90oFikRg/edit?usp=sharingRezq wrote:
OKay, wait until tomorrow or a day after. I will post a google docs link
I'm not joking when I said it
A good explanationRezq wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkLLHA8Ib0x82VWPYiNXP8YzeASuF32t8aR90oFikRg/edit?usp=sharingRezq wrote:
OKay, wait until tomorrow or a day after. I will post a google docs link
I'm not joking when I said it
Let me add this: a perfect game which would be perfect to everybody is probably impossible because humans aren't scripted(I hope so) and different from one another in preferences and etc.
More probable would be a perfect game for a certain person/type of person
So yeah, for me a concept of a perfect game for everybody isn't possible
But hey, that's just a theory
A GAME THEORY
There is no perfect game for rhythm players
I disagree, you're focusing too much on the objective and technical level of a game, however, what ends at the end of the day are the more subjective things that may affect someones experience, that's why I said that the perfect game is one that just taps into yourself as a person and triggers a lot of positive emotionsRezq wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkLLHA8Ib0x82VWPYiNXP8YzeASuF32t8aR90oFikRg/edit?usp=sharingRezq wrote:
OKay, wait until tomorrow or a day after. I will post a google docs link
I'm not joking when I said it
no need for graphics, no need for sound, no need for a good plot, no need for customization or replayibility, just, a game that can trigger something in you
I wrote about a perfect game as a game that is for everyone who generally enjoy playing games.Patatitta wrote:
I disagree, you're focusing too much on the objective and technical level of a game, however, what ends at the end of the day are the more subjective things that may affect someones experience, that's why I said that the perfect game is one that just taps into yourself as a person and triggers a lot of positive emotionsRezq wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkLLHA8Ib0x82VWPYiNXP8YzeASuF32t8aR90oFikRg/edit?usp=sharingRezq wrote:
OKay, wait until tomorrow or a day after. I will post a google docs link
I'm not joking when I said it
no need for graphics, no need for sound, no need for a good plot, no need for customization or replayibility, just, a game that can trigger something in you
And I wrote the graphics and sound as something that helps someone immerse to the game. If visual and sound executed perfectly it will create something beautiful. I didn't say it need AAA type of visual and sound. I was talking about the visual and sound that fit together with the concept. You can see the example of visual being a helping tool for story-telling in games like DDLC and Omori.
If there's Hololive in it
if it's just a game that is for everyone who enjoy playing games, then it's not a "perfect" game, it's just a good game, there is a distinction between one and the otherRezq wrote:
I wrote about a perfect game as a game that is for everyone who generally enjoy playing games.Patatitta wrote:
I disagree, you're focusing too much on the objective and technical level of a game, however, what ends at the end of the day are the more subjective things that may affect someones experience, that's why I said that the perfect game is one that just taps into yourself as a person and triggers a lot of positive emotionsRezq wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkLLHA8Ib0x82VWPYiNXP8YzeASuF32t8aR90oFikRg/edit?usp=sharingRezq wrote:
OKay, wait until tomorrow or a day after. I will post a google docs link
I'm not joking when I said it
no need for graphics, no need for sound, no need for a good plot, no need for customization or replayibility, just, a game that can trigger something in you
And I wrote the graphics and sound as something that helps someone immerse to the game. If visual and sound executed perfectly it will create something beautiful. I didn't say it need AAA type of visual and sound. I was talking about the visual and sound that fit together with the concept. You can see the example of visual being a helping tool for story-telling in games like DDLC and Omori.
quality > quantity
YOU DROPPED THIS -> 👑BeaniCraft wrote:
quality > quantity
tbh I dont know anyone that argues otherwiseBeaniCraft wrote:
quality > quantity
Patatitta wrote:
if it's just a game that is for everyone who enjoy playing games, then it's not a "perfect" game, it's just a good game, there is a distinction between one and the otherRezq wrote:
I wrote about a perfect game as a game that is for everyone who generally enjoy playing games.Patatitta wrote:
I disagree, you're focusing too much on the objective and technical level of a game, however, what ends at the end of the day are the more subjective things that may affect someones experience, that's why I said that the perfect game is one that just taps into yourself as a person and triggers a lot of positive emotionsRezq wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkLLHA8Ib0x82VWPYiNXP8YzeASuF32t8aR90oFikRg/edit?usp=sharingRezq wrote:
OKay, wait until tomorrow or a day after. I will post a google docs link
I'm not joking when I said it
no need for graphics, no need for sound, no need for a good plot, no need for customization or replayibility, just, a game that can trigger something in you
And I wrote the graphics and sound as something that helps someone immerse to the game. If visual and sound executed perfectly it will create something beautiful. I didn't say it need AAA type of visual and sound. I was talking about the visual and sound that fit together with the concept. You can see the example of visual being a helping tool for story-telling in games like DDLC and Omori.
Stomiks wrote:
If there's Hololive in it
https://taikotime.blogspot.com/2022/11/hololive-x-taiko-no-tatsujin-collab.html
i got all of the stuff here! (the event is over tho
)Fifa grindersPatatitta wrote:
tbh I dont know anyone that argues otherwiseBeaniCraft wrote:
quality > quantity
even people that play fifa prefeer having a single fifajrjin228 wrote:
Fifa grindersPatatitta wrote:
tbh I dont know anyone that argues otherwiseBeaniCraft wrote:
quality > quantity
there is no such thing as an objectively perfect game, it's all about the feelings, and that is subjectiveRezq wrote:
I am talking about perfect game in objective perspective. And a perfect game doesn't mean it's the best game. The best game for me is still Team Fortress 2Patatitta wrote:
if it's just a game that is for everyone who enjoy playing games, then it's not a "perfect" game, it's just a good game, there is a distinction between one and the otherRezq wrote:
I wrote about a perfect game as a game that is for everyone who generally enjoy playing games.Patatitta wrote:
I disagree, you're focusing too much on the objective and technical level of a game, however, what ends at the end of the day are the more subjective things that may affect someones experience, that's why I said that the perfect game is one that just taps into yourself as a person and triggers a lot of positive emotionsRezq wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkLLHA8Ib0x82VWPYiNXP8YzeASuF32t8aR90oFikRg/edit?usp=sharingRezq wrote:
OKay, wait until tomorrow or a day after. I will post a google docs link
I'm not joking when I said it
no need for graphics, no need for sound, no need for a good plot, no need for customization or replayibility, just, a game that can trigger something in you
And I wrote the graphics and sound as something that helps someone immerse to the game. If visual and sound executed perfectly it will create something beautiful. I didn't say it need AAA type of visual and sound. I was talking about the visual and sound that fit together with the concept. You can see the example of visual being a helping tool for story-telling in games like DDLC and Omori.
objectively perfect games exists from a game design perspectivePatatitta wrote:
there is no such thing as an objectively perfect game, it's all about the feelings, and that is subjectiveRezq wrote:
I am talking about perfect game in objective perspective. And a perfect game doesn't mean it's the best game. The best game for me is still Team Fortress 2Patatitta wrote:
if it's just a game that is for everyone who enjoy playing games, then it's not a "perfect" game, it's just a good game, there is a distinction between one and the otherRezq wrote:
I wrote about a perfect game as a game that is for everyone who generally enjoy playing games.Patatitta wrote:
I disagree, you're focusing too much on the objective and technical level of a game, however, what ends at the end of the day are the more subjective things that may affect someones experience, that's why I said that the perfect game is one that just taps into yourself as a person and triggers a lot of positive emotionsRezq wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkLLHA8Ib0x82VWPYiNXP8YzeASuF32t8aR90oFikRg/edit?usp=sharingRezq wrote:
OKay, wait until tomorrow or a day after. I will post a google docs link
I'm not joking when I said it
no need for graphics, no need for sound, no need for a good plot, no need for customization or replayibility, just, a game that can trigger something in you
And I wrote the graphics and sound as something that helps someone immerse to the game. If visual and sound executed perfectly it will create something beautiful. I didn't say it need AAA type of visual and sound. I was talking about the visual and sound that fit together with the concept. You can see the example of visual being a helping tool for story-telling in games like DDLC and Omori.
basically genshin except the hot stuff?Kaaruumii wrote:
a non p2w mmorpg with hot chicks and fun raids
not necessarily, it's not just about doing stuff right, technically, minesweeper (after the 50/50 prevention got added) is a perfect game, however, that's definitively what we're talking about, because minesweeper is not ambitious at all, you can do something really easy and nail it, there are no problems with minesweeperRezq wrote:
objectively perfect games exists from a game design perspectivePatatitta wrote:
there is no such thing as an objectively perfect game, it's all about the feelings, and that is subjectiveRezq wrote:
I am talking about perfect game in objective perspective. And a perfect game doesn't mean it's the best game. The best game for me is still Team Fortress 2Patatitta wrote:
if it's just a game that is for everyone who enjoy playing games, then it's not a "perfect" game, it's just a good game, there is a distinction between one and the otherRezq wrote:
I wrote about a perfect game as a game that is for everyone who generally enjoy playing games.Patatitta wrote:
I disagree, you're focusing too much on the objective and technical level of a game, however, what ends at the end of the day are the more subjective things that may affect someones experience, that's why I said that the perfect game is one that just taps into yourself as a person and triggers a lot of positive emotionsRezq wrote:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FkLLHA8Ib0x82VWPYiNXP8YzeASuF32t8aR90oFikRg/edit?usp=sharingRezq wrote:
OKay, wait until tomorrow or a day after. I will post a google docs link
I'm not joking when I said it
no need for graphics, no need for sound, no need for a good plot, no need for customization or replayibility, just, a game that can trigger something in you
And I wrote the graphics and sound as something that helps someone immerse to the game. If visual and sound executed perfectly it will create something beautiful. I didn't say it need AAA type of visual and sound. I was talking about the visual and sound that fit together with the concept. You can see the example of visual being a helping tool for story-telling in games like DDLC and Omori.
however, you can keep doing thing more ambitious, problem is, if you do everything purely objective, you will end up with a very bland product, you must put passion into it, have artistic value, and that's not objective
and if we go like, that bland game can be considered perfect, then, this definition of perfect has not value at all, because minesweeper would too be considered perfect
I'm a bit confused. I said a perfect game is a game that story, visual, sound, and other element of the game compliment each other. Minesweeper didn't categorize as a perfect game because it only made with gameplay and visual. Everything I said already contain artistic element like story, visual, and sound (the elements that build movie). I don't see how the concept I wrote being a concept of bland game
genshin is not an mmo + its p2wRezq wrote:
basically genshin except the hot stuff?Kaaruumii wrote:
a non p2w mmorpg with hot chicks and fun raids
Yes, I was right. You said "non p2w," "Mmorpg," "Fun Raids" Genshin is none of themKaaruumii wrote:
genshin is not an mmo + its p2wRezq wrote:
basically genshin except the hot stuff?Kaaruumii wrote:
a non p2w mmorpg with hot chicks and fun raids
my point is, that list of "Story, visual, sound, etc" is subjective on itself, an objectevily perfect game cannot exist if the thing you're using to measure it is subjectiveRezq wrote:
I'm a bit confused. I said a perfect game is a game that story, visual, sound, and other element of the game compliment each other. Minesweeper didn't categorize as a perfect game because it only made with gameplay and visual. Everything I said already contain artistic element like story, visual, and sound (the elements that build movie). I don't see how the concept I wrote being a concept of bland game
Well then, that's it
women
It's actually fairly simple: Make everyone think that every game is perfect.
You could make the worst game imaginable but everyone would still find it perfect.
You could make the worst game imaginable but everyone would still find it perfect.
This thread has been either:
A discourse on whether something is subjective or objective that leads to the idea of a perfect game
Simple things
A discourse on whether something is subjective or objective that leads to the idea of a perfect game
Simple things
a lot of games that people consider to be perfect, are more often than not very hit or miss games, so that logic doesn't really apply, since no one would really agree[ Sebastian ] wrote:
It's actually fairly simple: Make everyone think that every game is perfect.
You could make the worst game imaginable but everyone would still find it perfect.
What if there are no women in video gamesWimpy Cursed wrote:
women
Topic Starter
It's interesting I guess.UPR wrote:
This thread has been either:
A discourse on whether something is subjective or objective that leads to the idea of a perfect game
Simple things
I was hoping for a lot more subjective and personal ideas.
Well you will always have that one person who will basically judge/shame the idea of subjectivity-Remi wrote:
It's interesting I guess.UPR wrote:
This thread has been either:
A discourse on whether something is subjective or objective that leads to the idea of a perfect game
Simple things
I was hoping for a lot more subjective and personal ideas.
yeah that was kinda the disscussion, me saying it's subjective, and rezq saying it's not reallyUPR wrote:
Well you will always have that one person who will basically judge/shame the idea of subjectivity-Remi wrote:
It's interesting I guess.UPR wrote:
This thread has been either:
A discourse on whether something is subjective or objective that leads to the idea of a perfect game
Simple things
I was hoping for a lot more subjective and personal ideas.
I'd keep myself safeI AM VERY SMART wrote:
What if there are no women in video gamesWimpy Cursed wrote:
women
I mean put mind controlling devices on everyone and force them into thinking every game made is perfect in everyway.Patatitta wrote:
a lot of games that people consider to be perfect, are more often than not very hit or miss games, so that logic doesn't really apply, since no one would really agree[ Sebastian ] wrote:
It's actually fairly simple: Make everyone think that every game is perfect.
You could make the worst game imaginable but everyone would still find it perfect.
Mind control is not fricking witch craft, you can't just do that[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I mean put mind controlling devices on everyone and force them into thinking every game made is perfect in everyway.Patatitta wrote:
a lot of games that people consider to be perfect, are more often than not very hit or miss games, so that logic doesn't really apply, since no one would really agree[ Sebastian ] wrote:
It's actually fairly simple: Make everyone think that every game is perfect.
You could make the worst game imaginable but everyone would still find it perfect.
😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃Wimpy Cursed wrote:
I'd keep myself safeI AM VERY SMART wrote:
What if there are no women in video gamesWimpy Cursed wrote:
women
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭Rezq wrote:
Mind control is not fricking witch craft, you can't just do that[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I mean put mind controlling devices on everyone and force them into thinking every game made is perfect in everyway.Patatitta wrote:
a lot of games that people consider to be perfect, are more often than not very hit or miss games, so that logic doesn't really apply, since no one would really agree[ Sebastian ] wrote:
It's actually fairly simple: Make everyone think that every game is perfect.
You could make the worst game imaginable but everyone would still find it perfect.
Rezq wrote:
Mind control is not fricking witch craft, you can't just do that[ Sebastian ] wrote:
I mean put mind controlling devices on everyone and force them into thinking every game made is perfect in everyway.Patatitta wrote:
a lot of games that people consider to be perfect, are more often than not very hit or miss games, so that logic doesn't really apply, since no one would really agree[ Sebastian ] wrote:
It's actually fairly simple: Make everyone think that every game is perfect.
You could make the worst game imaginable but everyone would still find it perfect.
I honestly don't know how to make a perfect game.
most of the time the only thing that matters is fun, so i would say the perfect game is a simple concept that is hard to master like osu!
The concept of "fun" is different for everyone soooReyalp51 wrote:
most of the time the only thing that matters is fun, so i would say the perfect game is a simple concept that is hard to master like osu!