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Thunderstorm
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 19 января 2010 г. at 18:30:18

Artist: Korn
Title: Word Up
Tags: Nu Metal
BPM: 116
Filesize: 13607kb
Play Time: 02:44
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2,81 stars, 196 notes)
  2. Hard (4,9 stars, 453 notes)
  3. Normal (4,4 stars, 301 notes)
Download: Korn - Word Up
Download: Korn - Word Up (no video)
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Beatmap #1
Thanks for help and suggestions, guys =)
GbL
My star on the other topic~
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm
so, here you cudos, that i gave to you in old top =)
Xgor
re-starred! :)
jericho2442
its not my kind of song, but its a sound and nice map with only some personal dislikes what cant be counted as a mod so have a star :)
KIA
D: Глупышка :?
blissfulyoshi
Normal:
SPOILER
You might want to add kiai timing to the ending for aesthetics.

Combo mod: (you seem to be pretty inconsistent with combos at parts)
00:23:41 (1) - remove new combo
00:25:99 (1) - remove new combo
00:30:91 (1) - ^
00:35:05 (1) - ^
00:37:37 (6,1) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 6 (swap new combo)
00:50:82 (4) - new combo?
00:59:10 (4) - ^
01:04:01 (1,2) - swap new combo
01:05:82 (1,2) - swap new combo?
01:16:68 (1,4) - swap new combo
01:20:56 (1) - remove new combo
01:35:05 (5,1) - swap new combo
01:49:53 (1) - remove new combo to be consistent with previous occurrences
02:14:10 (4) - new combo for consistency
02:21:34 (3) - ^ (you seemed to change your style at this point so you might want to look back to previous points in the song and make them all consistent)
02:30:39 (4) - ^
02:38:15 (2) - ^

The constant streams in this song are a quite hard for your easiest diff. I advise you make a shorter easy.

Hard:
SPOILER
You might want to make sb warnings for the large double speed slider section because that section was sort of unexpected for me.
Also you might want to add kiai.

Combo mod:
00:20:56 (10,1) - swap new combo
I really could not find too much of a pattern with your combos so I would just follow the same combo style I recommended for normal.

Timing section mod:
00:36:58 and 00:37:36 -What are these 2 timing section for? There are no sliders inbetween them to 2x the BPM for. Please remove them if they don't serve a purpose
00:52:75 and 00:53:91 - ^
01:56:63, 01:58:31, ..., 02:09:89 - all the timing sections here are not needed because there are no other sliders here besides the ones you 2x the BPM, so you do not need to turn on and off the 2x BPM till it ends

Nice map. Star.
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Normal:
SPOILER
You might want to add kiai timing to the ending for aesthetics.

Combo mod: (you seem to be pretty inconsistent with combos at parts)
00:23:41 (1) - remove new combo
00:25:99 (1) - remove new combo
00:30:91 (1) - ^
00:35:05 (1) - ^
00:37:37 (6,1) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 6 (swap new combo)
00:50:82 (4) - new combo?
00:59:10 (4) - ^
01:04:01 (1,2) - swap new combo
01:05:82 (1,2) - swap new combo?
01:16:68 (1,4) - swap new combo
01:20:56 (1) - remove new combo
01:35:05 (5,1) - swap new combo
01:49:53 (1) - remove new combo to be consistent with previous occurrences
02:14:10 (4) - new combo for consistency
02:21:34 (3) - ^ (you seemed to change your style at this point so you might want to look back to previous points in the song and make them all consistent)
02:30:39 (4) - ^
02:38:15 (2) - ^
most part fixed
The constant streams in this song are a quite hard for your easiest diff. I advise you make a shorter easy. well, you're second person, who advice me to make easy, so i think to do it.

Hard:
SPOILER
You might want to make sb warnings for the large double speed slider section because that section was sort of unexpected for me.
Also you might want to add kiai.

Combo mod:
00:20:56 (10,1) - swap new combo
I really could not find too much of a pattern with your combos so I would just follow the same combo style I recommended for normal. some fixes performed

Timing section mod:
00:36:58 and 00:37:36 -What are these 2 timing section for? There are no sliders inbetween them to 2x the BPM for. Please remove them if they don't serve a purpose this timing section is for stream of 3 hitcicrcles, that sound a little bit wreid on standart bmp
00:52:75 and 00:53:91 - ^ fixed
01:56:63, 01:58:31, ..., 02:09:89 - all the timing sections here are not needed because there are no other sliders here besides the ones you 2x the BPM, so you do not need to turn on and off the 2x BPM till it ends
01:56:008-02:12:759 is intended time section with 2x sliders. Other sections fixed)


Nice map. Star.Thx for modding^^
Azure_Kite
Here's my mod ^^

Green = Suggestion Red = Check this

[Normal]
02:22:63 (1,2,3) - I'd probably turn off grid snapping temporarily to make these sliders line up perfectly to the next slider's end
No Problems Found :)

[Hard]
01:52:63 (8) - I'd probably turn off grid snapping temporarily to make these sliders line up perfectly to the next slider's end

Other than these two things, I can't find anything else. Great map, and Starred ^^

PS no kudosu please as I don't think this warrants any.
Armin
[Normal]
00:25:223 Remove whistle?
00:26:258 ^
00:29:361 Add a whistle
00:38:413 Remove new combo
00:41:775 Add a finish
00:43:068 ^
01:09:447 whistle on the start
01:15:137 Weird Slider. Move the last way-point on the left.
02:20:051 Add whistle or finish

[Hard]
00:34:016 Align with 3 and 7
02:24:965 remove whistle
02:25:482 ^
02:26:258 Add a whistle

That's all for me. Starred! :D
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm

Azure_Kyte wrote:

Here's my mod ^^

Green = Suggestion Red = Check this

[Normal]
02:22:63 (1,2,3) - I'd probably turn off grid snapping temporarily to make these sliders line up perfectly to the next slider's end fixed
No Problems Found :)

[Hard]
01:52:63 (8) - I'd probably turn off grid snapping temporarily to make these sliders line up perfectly to the next slider's end fixed

Armin wrote:

[Normal]
00:25:223 Remove whistle?
00:26:258 ^
00:29:361 Add a whistle
00:38:413 Remove new combo
00:41:775 Add a finish
00:43:068 ^
01:09:447 whistle on the start
01:15:137 Weird Slider. Move the last way-point on the left.
02:20:051 Add whistle or finish

[Hard]
00:34:016 Align with 3 and 7
02:24:965 remove whistle
02:25:482 ^
02:26:258 Add a whistle
most part ixed
Thx for modding!
NoHitter
Nice beatmap.

Although try adjusting the video offset to 6858.

Starred.
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm

NoHItter wrote:

Nice beatmap.

Although try adjusting the video offset to 6858. it's a bit asyncronous in whole original video, so i dicide to keep it. Anyway, thx for suggestion, mod & star =)
fzeromaster
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Mafiamaster
Easy~
  1. 00:28:84 (7) - ^
  2. 00:37:63 (7) - ^
  3. 00:46:43 (9) - ^
  4. 00:57:80 (1) - Suggestion: Add a clap at the beginning?
  5. 01:04:53 (9) - New combo.
  6. 01:18:49 (7) - ^
  7. 01:35:05 (7) - New combo.
  8. 01:43:84 (4) - ^
  9. 02:16:94 (7) - ^
  10. 02:25:22 (7) - ^
  11. 02:33:49 (6) - ^
  12. 02:39:70 (2) - Suggestion: ^
  13. 02:41:77 (5) - ^
Normal~
  1. Imo, you should place the Overall Difficulty slider tick to the middle. (1 tick to the left)

Hard~

  1. 00:46:43 (5) - New combo.
  2. 00:47:46 (1) - Remove new combo.
  3. 01:16:94 (7) - Suggestion: New combo.
  4. 01:51:21 (2,3) - Move to closer to 1 for even spacing like 01:51:60 (4,5,6)
  5. 01:57:93 (8,9,10) - Move 8 closer to 7.
  6. 02:03:49 (6) - Move closer to 5.
Delete both .osb files in the folder of this beatmap.
Then do a full submit.
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm

fzeromaster wrote:

easy:
0:20:568 (7) - new combo
0:28:844 (7) - ^
0:37:637 (7) - ^
1:18:499 (7) - ^
2:16:947 (7) - ^
fixed

normal:
0:25:999 - remove new combo
0:35:568 - ^
2:14:102 - ^

Disagree, these combos for consisty so i'll keep it


hard:
0:10:611 (1) - move back 1/8 1/8 back hears a bit early to bass guitar part
0:12:809 (7) - new combo, remove combo on the note after this.fixed
0:14:620 - remove new combo Well, if i do this - i'll be 16 combo, i don't want such long combos even in hard
0:20:568 (10) - new combo, remove combo on the note after this fixed
0:23:672 - remove new combo fixed
0:28:068 - ^fixed
0:28:844 (5) - new combo fixed
0:30:913 - remove new combo fixed
0:35:051 - ^ fixed
0:47:465 - ^ fixed
0:51:344 - ^ every "Up" have a new combo, it's intended
0:51:306 - ^ ^
0:58:585 - ^ fixed
0:59:103 - ^ ^ 0:51:344
0:59:620 - ^ ^ 0:51:344
1:20:568 - ^ fixed
1:40:999 - ^ ^ 0:51:344
1:41:258 - ^ ^ 0:51:344
1:48:758 - ^ ^ 0:51:344
1:48:275 - ^ ^ 0:51:344
2:28:378 - ^ fixed
2:29:103 - ^ fixed
2:37:896 - ^ fixed
2:38:413 - ^ ^ 0:51:344
2:38:930 - ^ ^ 0:51:344

Extra notes:
Try to make short combos on easy mode. Higher difficulties can have longer combo's. At the end of a succesfull performed combo you get an Elite beat (the 300/100 with the japanese symbol above) which give an extra HP boost. You want many of those on easy and less on hard, you see? It's counts on diff on [Hard]. I don't think that [Easy] needs too much new combos 'cuz of low hp drain
Also, doublecheck if the changes dont collide with the HP drain. If the HP drain is too fast (gain<drain), tone down the HP drain or add some extra combo's like halfway a sentence in the song, instead of the full one. Rechecked, all fine
Thx for modding =)
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm

Mafiamaster wrote:

Easy~
  1. 00:28:84 (7) - ^
  2. 00:37:63 (7) - ^
  3. 00:46:43 (9) - ^
  4. 00:57:80 (1) - Suggestion: Add a clap at the beginning?
  5. 01:04:53 (9) - New combo.
  6. 01:18:49 (7) - ^
  7. 01:35:05 (7) - New combo.
  8. 01:43:84 (4) - ^
  9. 02:16:94 (7) - ^
  10. 02:25:22 (7) - ^
  11. 02:33:49 (6) - ^
  12. 02:39:70 (2) - Suggestion: ^
  13. 02:41:77 (5) - ^
All fixed

Normal~
  1. Imo, you should place the Overall Difficulty slider tick to the middle. (1 tick to the left)Fixed

Hard~

  1. 00:46:43 (5) - New combo.
  2. 00:47:46 (1) - Remove new combo.
  3. 01:16:94 (7) - Suggestion: New combo.
  4. 01:51:21 (2,3) - Move to closer to 1 for even spacing like 01:51:60 (4,5,6)
  5. 01:57:93 (8,9,10) - Move 8 closer to 7.
  6. 02:03:49 (6) - Move closer to 5.
Delete both .osb files in the folder of this beatmap.
Then do a full submit.
All fixed exept .osb suggestion. if i act like this, my osu complains, that it cannot read audio for this map and deny access to the map Oo so i forced to leave it for now
Thx for modding ^^
KIA
:o Modded in IRC again.
XepherX3
checked..i don't find any bpm/offset or mistimings so starred

but on Hard decrease the circlesize (suggestion)
Yoshi348
Easy -
Really boring. Nearly every note is spaced 1 beat from the one before, so it's more like you're keeping time with a metronome than following along with the song. Just because it's easy doesn't mean every note has to be on a white line. Also remember that you can have notes distanced 1.5 beats away at times too.

Hard -
01:20:30 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - beat spacing is different from the first part of the combo. Make it consistent.
whymeman
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17459&p=202125#p202125

Re-staring from the old mod post. Sorry to hear about the submission glitch.
Mashley
Take that out of the source.

Hard
01:06:34 (3) - (nazi) left one

Good map, genuinely intuitive jumps in hard.
Starrodkirby86
I love this song...I only just viewed the artist the first time; can't believe I missed it. ;_; Sorry! Anyway...

[Easy]:
02:44:87 (6) - Seems to be a lot of fountains already. This one kinda seems a bit random-ish in musical placement. Is it fine to remove it? ^^

[Hard]:
02:16:94 (7) - Minor suggestion: Move a little more left?

Remove Greatest Hits Vol. 1 (2004) from the Soruce. Feel free to move it into Tags though.

Kiai Times seem inconistent with [Normal]. Maybe you can have the same Kiai settings with Easy and Normal? (Hard's cool, I suppose). Nyeh, Kiai is pretty different in all difficulties. This isn't anything big, but it's just more of a polish sort of thing.

Excellent map. I like how your style is shown a bit on [Normal] and [Hard]! I can nazi a bit of it if you don't mind. Of course, it's purely optional~
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm
All suggestions followed, kiai is now consistent in all diff's (like in [Hard])
Thanks for modding!
EEeee
;_______; i modded on "World Up"

here's ur star back
eee
oh, I remember this one :)
eeemod GO!!!

[Easy]
any reason why this ends later than the others, not a problem, but you can end the others like this, I think.
it's alright by meee

[Normal]
I prefer making the timing sections the same as [Hard]. If there is some problem with that, make it the same as [Easy]. I noticed how the inherited soft sections were sort of "low".
01:56:51 (break) - reinsert break

[Hard]

I like it, you got some cool rhythmic patterns.
There should be a break somewhere, but, screw it, it's pretty short.

star+
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm

eee wrote:

oh, I remember this one :)
eeemod GO!!!

[Easy]
any reason why this ends later than the others, not a problem, but you can end the others like this, I think.
it's alright by meee
I don't see any problems here) so, i prefer to keep all as now =)
[Normal]
I prefer making the timing sections the same as [Hard]. If there is some problem with that, make it the same as [Easy]. I noticed how the inherited soft sections were sort of "low". Hm.... Fixed
01:56:51 (break) - reinsert break Fixed

[Hard]

I like it, you got some cool rhythmic patterns. TY =)
There should be a break somewhere, but, screw it, it's pretty short. It must be here - 01:55:353 - 01:56:128
But it's really short, so really screw it x)


star+
TY for modding and for the star
Alice
sorry there's some hitsound nazi.. take these as suggestions p:
Easy
00:40:22 (5's turnback) - I'd more hear a clap there.
01:26:77 (7) - finish?
Normal
00:29:62 (4) - 1 tick upper
01:42:03 (4) - 1 tick right
Hard
Nothing special I guess...
Cool map :D
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm

Alice Margatroid wrote:

sorry there's some hitsound nazi.. take these as suggestions p:
Easy
00:40:22 (5's turnback) - I'd more hear a clap there.
01:26:77 (7
Normal
00:29:62 (4) - 1 tick upper
01:42:03 (4) - 1 tick right
Hard
Nothing special I guess...
Cool map :D
Fixed. TY for modding =)
Xgor
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
HolyBoy
Nothing i could find ^_^ ... good map :)

Star! from me :)
Matma Rex
Quick look:

- Video is one, huge WTF. But it's awesome.
- Normal is more like Hard (full of tricky patterns, I failed it about halfway), and Hard like Insane (I failed after about 5-10 seconds).
- Easy is nice diff.


Starred.
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm

Matma Rex wrote:

Quick look:

- Video is one, huge WTF. But it's awesome.
xD Same point of view
- Normal is more like Hard (full of tricky patterns, I failed it about halfway), and Hard like Insane (I failed after about 5-10 seconds).
Hm... i named diff following my feelings when i'm played it.
But hard is really inbetween hard and insane
Played by me
Sorry for skin -_- Forgot to change it



- Easy is nice diff. ^^


Starred.
TY for modding
sesito71
hehe I love this song *-*

Just some suggestions ^^ and yeah, video is huge but epic xD

[Easy]

01:00:39 (4) - New combo?
01:02:46 (8) - ^
02:27:80 (6) - Maybe finish instead of clap?
02:39:70 (1) - Remove new combo?

Last break is quite long, but I think it doesn't matter xDDD

[Hard]

01:55:22 (6) - Finish instead of whistle?

[Normal]

00:18:532 - Add a note (clap)?
01:32:72 (6) - Spacing :/
01:40:99 (2) - Maybe you want this aligned with (1) (?)
01:48:75 (1) - Maybe you want this aligned with (2) (?)



Cool map~ Star'd
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Andrea
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions, you don't have to fix, your choice.
Orange: You don't have to fix too, but is better if you do it.
Red: You have to fix this for sure!

Starts Suggestions:

- Set a preview point on all diff's.

[Easy]

00:59:87 (3) - New combo.
01:00:39 (1) - Remove new combo.


[Normal]

00:59:87 (6) - New combo.
01:46:43 (8) - Too close from (7).
01:55:74 (7) - ^

[Hard]

Too much change of spacing, players will be confused.
You need to add a break.

00:42:55 (1) - Too close from (3).
01:10:74 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is really confused.
01:22:63 (1) - Too close from (12).
01:56:25 (1) - From here, you need a warning 2x Section.
02:43:58 (1) - Too close from (7).
Topic Starter
Thunderstorm

osuplayer111 wrote:

Starts Suggestions:
- Set a preview point on all diff's. What point i must set as a preview point?

[Easy]

00:59:87 (3) - New combo.
01:00:39 (1) - Remove new combo.

Fixed

[Normal]

00:59:87 (6) - New combo.
01:46:43 (8) - Too close from (7).
01:55:74 (7) - ^
Fixed

[Hard]

Too much change of spacing, players will be confused. It's hard, i really dont see a problem in it. And you're the first person, who pointed me out on it =)
You need to add a break. Break is too short here, so i decided to don't add it

00:42:55 (1) - Too close from (3). Hm, new combo here. As i remember, new combo don't needs to be distance snapped with end of old combo.
01:10:74 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This pattern is really confused. Why? I think it's really easy to read
01:22:63 (1) - Too close from (12).New combo...
01:56:25 (1) - From here, you need a warning 2x Section. Working on it
02:43:58 (1) - Too close from (7). New combo...
TY for modding =)
RustySteele
Huh... I really don't see anything major wrong with this. XD Love the lighted beat markers, love the use of finish/clap sounds with the beat (I swear, it was kind of able to help me keep the beat. lol). And nice touch keeping with the beat of the song for easy and normal, and for hard going more with the instrumental/vocal stuff. Also, nice use of kiai time near the end. It did feel quite appropriate.

This map looks quite good, and quite fun. Can't seem to figure out anything negative to say about it. STAR!
Kytoxid
[General]

Those tags should probably be in Sources. What other tags are there?

[Easy]

01:25:074 (7) - Vertically align this with 5?
01:35:005 (1) - Line this up?
01:42:029 (3,1) - Too close, awkward-looking.
02:20:056 (1) - Line up?
02:23:067 (5,6) - ^

It's okay, I guess. Very repetitive though. Every beat lands on 1/1, and every 1/1 is either a beat, slider, spinner, or break, pretty much. Play around with rhythm a bit more.

[Normal]

00:52:012 (4) - Align.
00:56:025 (6,7) -^
01:29:087 (10,11,12) - Vertically stretched compared to the notes before it, intentional?
01:30:091 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing is different, why?
01:43:084 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 1-3 and 7,8 are closer to each other than the other spacings.
01:47:046 (1,2,3) - Center?
01:52:012 (2,3,4,5) - Make a square?
02:29:087 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - Looks weird; 3,5 not aligned, spacing is different.
02:33:049 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - A bit hard to read for Normal.
02:43:058 (5) - New combo?

[Hard]

I personally don't like circle sizes smaller than Normal; unnecessary difficulty. Your choice whether to keep them.

Apart from the obvious jumps, there're also smaller changes in spacing; I recommend keeping it constant.

01:10:022 (1) - What a confusing pattern for this combo.
01:36:008 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 3, 6 are not aligned; intentional?
02:08:067 (1,2,3) - Not aligned, intentional?

Looks okay overall, have a star~
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