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[invalid] We should make suggestive/ borderline nsfw bg's unrankable

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Do you think the same?

Yes
21
43.75%
No
27
56.25%
Total votes: 48
Topic Starter
novakk
In worse cases we should make it a bannable offense as well
Ryu Sei
We already have this process: wiki/en/Rules/Content_Voting_Process
Topic Starter
novakk
Left this post overnight and there is 4 votes for no mfkin horny weebs
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this is already a thing? it's called content review, if the map's bg is a bit sus then gmts will hold a vote to see if the bg should be deleted or if it's ok

ok ok you're talking about suggestive bg, yeah i don't think it should be on maps without an explicit marker but on maps that have one, it's not a big deal imo
Ryu Sei
If the BG is inappropiate for the song, let alone suggestive theme at the first place, it can be a problem due to visual considerations.

This thread is redundant.
lewski
The rules of the game say the following:

Beatmap submission rules wrote:

4. Follow the Song Content Rules and Visual Content Considerations.
So, let's take a look at the Visual Content Considerations linked above:

Visual Content Considerations wrote:

Images or visual elements containing any of the following are not allowed:

  1. significant sexual innuendo
  2. sexual posturing or solicitation
  3. erotic content or graphic displays of sexuality
There are more entries on the actual list, but these three cover the topic of the proposal.

These rules are enforced on a case-by-case basis. Please read the VCC article as well as the Content voting process article, linked both in the VCC article and by Ryu Sei in this very thread, to further inform yourself about the process.

So, what exactly do you want to change? BGs that are deemed too sexual are already inherently unrankable because they break the rules of the game. As for punishment:

Rules wrote:

If after several infringements you continue to break the rules, your account may be permanently and irrevocably restricted.
Kaaruumii
a lil bit of anime booba hurt nobody
Topic Starter
novakk
Be honest how well do you think this rule is enforced, especially when the staff are talking about a "too scary" bg for the recent halloween event suggesting that the younger demographic of players are like 10
Ryu Sei
That's why there is content review. Besides people can just report the offending map and let the mods nuke it if the map's background isn't changed.

It's not a guaranteed method since this one relies on user report, rather than automated unless I'm wrong.
Protastic101

dPeace wrote:

ok ok you're talking about suggestive bg, yeah i don't think it should be on maps without an explicit marker but on maps that have one, it's not a big deal imo
Just to clarify here, explicit tag only applies to song content, and not backgrounds, videos, diff names, etc as those are things that can be changed to fit within osu's general rules. So an inappropriate background is still not allowed on maps containing the explicit tag.

adim2222 wrote:

Be honest how well do you think this rule is enforced, especially when the staff are talking about a "too scary" bg for the recent halloween event suggesting that the younger demographic of players are like 10
The rule is enforced. Usually a background gets to content review by the time a BN comes to check the map, and if not, they're often reported while in the qualified stage or self-reported by mappers who are unsure if it's borderline or not to undergo content review.

If the background directly goes against osu's visual content considerations, then yes, the mapper will be asked to change it or risk their map being deleted. Similar to Ryu Sei and lewski, I'm not exactly sure what it is you're wishing to change here since the issue you mentioned already has a set procedure to deal with it.
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Protastic101 wrote:

dPeace wrote:

ok ok you're talking about suggestive bg, yeah i don't think it should be on maps without an explicit marker but on maps that have one, it's not a big deal imo
Just to clarify here, explicit tag only applies to song content, and not backgrounds, videos, diff names, etc as those are things that can be changed to fit within osu's general rules. So an inappropriate background is still not allowed on maps containing the explicit tag.
yes i know about the real purpose for explicit tags, i just feel like if you're already using an explicit song then you should be allowed to use explicit bg too, like the website even hide all explicit maps's bg currently if you don't wanna see explicit map so i don't understand why it's gonna be an issue (unless the bg is literal porn or sth).

@op just because one rule is not enforced as much as you think it should doesn't mean than another rule is needed to be created, it just mean said rule should be enforce more.
Noch Einen

Protastic101 wrote:

Usually a background gets to content review by the time a BN comes to check the map, and if not, they're often reported while in the qualified stage or self-reported by mappers who are unsure if it's borderline or not to undergo content review.
Whether for rank or not, some carefree people might have reported "suggestive / too scary bg" to Content Review, recent graveyarded maps had attention for it than older (like year / more) graveyarded maps.

Just.....why bother? Whether the mapper gets notification letter from GMT / not (to change / remove bg), does it matter to you? People voting no not because of they ho*ny or degen whatsoever, just that, you lose none but you also get none
Livermorium
if its really bad then its not gonna get ranked under current rules anyway
besides if you want to have a "rule" on nsfw, then you have to establish a absolute scale of nsfw that everyone can agree on so it can actually function as a rule. otherwise just keeping what we already have sounds reasonable enough for dealing potentially nsfw bgs and other things
AnimeStyle
I just want more consistency between stuff getting the axe.
Stuff like loli cooch outline getting ranked and never removed or itty bitty big tiddy swimsuit cleavage thats bigger than her head is no bueno.
Ephemeral

AnimeStyle wrote:

I just want more consistency between stuff getting the axe.
Stuff like loli cooch outline getting ranked and never removed or itty bitty big tiddy swimsuit cleavage thats bigger than her head is no bueno.
Feel free to DM me (or any other GMT/NAT) links to this content and we'll raise it for removal, especially the former.

adim2222 wrote:

Be honest how well do you think this rule is enforced, especially when the staff are talking about a "too scary" bg for the recent halloween event suggesting that the younger demographic of players are like 10
There is a large demographic of quite young users on our platform, as is the case for everywhere on the internet these days. On top of that, people's tolerances for visually disturbing or "spooky" content is huge across the board, and it's almost always better to err on the safer side of things when sharing content with a large audience.

All of this is apparent if you think about the notion for longer than ten seconds.
Topic Starter
novakk
I think we've gone too far off track just read the question again and anwser the poll honestly
AnimeStyle

Ephemeral wrote:

AnimeStyle wrote:

I just want more consistency between stuff getting the axe.
Stuff like loli cooch outline getting ranked and never removed or itty bitty big tiddy swimsuit cleavage thats bigger than her head is no bueno.
Feel free to DM me (or any other GMT/NAT) links to this content and we'll raise it for removal, especially the former.
Just so this doesn't got unnoticed - I DMed him the sets in question and appropriate action got taken. So once again thanks for helping out.


Considering the discussion: GMTs already monitor that kind of stuff and if something is questionable it can always be reported/content reviewed.
Should the guidelines be more strict? Yesn't to be honest. For the guidelines to be stricter we need proper NSFW support for site and ingame. At the moment it's not at a point where i would feel comfy increasing strictness more.
Protastic101
Closing this as Content Review already exists, as well as a way for regular users to report potentially questionable backgrounds through the mappers' guild website (https://bn.mappersguild.com/reports) where it can then be submitted for CR. Suggestive/borderline NSFW BGs are considered unrankable if they fail CR and must be changed by mappers in that instance.
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