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Kaori Hikita - Negai

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Alace
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2009年8月18日 at 下午 09:59:02

Artist: Kaori Hikita
Title: Negai
BPM: 132
Filesize: 5458kb
Play Time: 03:16
Difficulties Available:
  1. Wish (4.33 stars, 333 notes)
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Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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sayonara negai
Shinxyn
Nicely put~ I agree with your voiced opinion (even if I might not be the best person to agree upon this)
But I'm sure a "fair" system will be hard to achieve, after all, everyone has their own opinion on what's "fair"
And speaking out like this when you are a BAT, no, when speaking out like this at all doesn't make you seem weak, quite the opposite in my eyes.

Are you asking those who agree with you to map the "Wish" difficulty with you?
MegaManEXE

Shinxyn wrote:

And speaking out like this when you are a BAT, no, when speaking out like this at all doesn't make you seem weak, quite the opposite in my eyes.
Agreed.

It takes a person of tremendous strength to come out and say something like this, even moreso when you're in the position you're in.

Bravo.

And a star for lols
Mystearica
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minyeob
Alace, I fully understand your English >A<

I had forgotten why I started modding before:;
But now I know!
Rise up!
Thanks for teaching that for me.



00:20:75 (1) ~ 00:24:72 (9)
Download: Kaori Hikita - Negai (Alace) [Wish].osu
To next mapper: Use this difficulty please~
alvisto
Well said, Alace. To hear a BAT voicing out the current situation in a naked truth like that, I must give an applause for standing out. It takes a lot of courage to voice a contradiction, and to me, that's a move displayed by a strong person, and you did it.

Alace wrote:

DON'T JUST CARE ABOUT YOUR OWN MAPS!
Sorry if I myself had done that, but being a new mapper, there's no other way of getting an attention besides shouting and keep spamming. And I agree with mystearica. It's hard to get a BAT attention unless you sit in front of your computer for 24/7 and beg and beg for attention. Luckily, my begs were easy ones, I was able to get my map ranked in 2 weeks. But it make me sad when I see maps that are good but doesn't get BAT attention at all. Sometimes, it struck to me that this whole modding system is like popularity contest during secondary school.

The system itself is ok I think, just that people running that system is *ahem*.

Star for support.
Hanyuu
Alace you are the best !!!
Mystearica
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MegaManEXE
Uh

This song is not good for my style of mapping at all lol

Sorry I could only contribute 5 notes, I have trouble mapping empty spaces in the music without vocals :<

Maybe I will try to contribute again at a different point in the song that's more suitable to my style

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Hanyuu
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Lesjuh
I have the same wish

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DJPop
lesjuh: I'm just mapping next to Hanyuu lately D:


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Add another unrankable notes (00:36:77 >>>)

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antony11
I also have this wish ~ But I also very lazy :cry:

I mapped 56:093 ~ 1:03:138

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Topic Starter
Alace
I upload to this part lol
they me think what can i do if two guys map the same part
(WISH-Tag4) XD
Dangaard
We don't need the system to have fun while mapping/playing...

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azuki
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mtmcl

alvisto wrote:

The system itself is ok I think, just that people running that system is *ahem*.
Let me tell you all a sob story.

Attending college and earning a Masters in Education is my dream. I want to be a teacher. Life without education is meaningless to me. My aunt paid for my first semester of college after I graduated from high school. At that time, my father was a nurse and my family was financially stable. I decided to get a job so I could continue to pay for college. That summer, however, my father died of lymphoma, leaving me the only person in my family with a job. I dropped my college classes and started taking more hours at work so the bills could be paid. Fast forward one year. My mother finally has a job. She makes just a little more than I do. The life insurance has run out and our combined income can barely pay the bills. I'm practically on-call for my job, taking every extra hour I'm given. All my money goes to paying the bills. College is a far away dream. I've applied for financial aid three times, one time when my mother didn't have a job, and was denied each time.

Here's my point.

I'm a BAT, but do you know what else I am? I'm a human. Look behind the username of every member of the Beatmap Approval Team and you'll find another crisis unfolding, another heart beating, and another human trying.

I believe there are many quirks in the current modding system, but I fall short of supporting the sentiments in this thread. Look at yourselves! You're playing the blame game again and again. You talk about working together, but pointing fingers is far from unifying behavior.

It's upsetting to me as a person who has stood up for new mappers, foreign mappers, and otherwise often unnoticed people. My fellow BATs are my colleagues and friends. They have earned my support just like all of you.

Star in support of your courage though, Alace. Let it be known that your reputation is not tarnished with me one bit and I don't blame you for the sentiments expressed in this thread that I feel concerned about.
GolGate
Sorry for being a bullshit in this post, but...

Alace wrote:

We need BATs to work like a team.
And you're the only one standing out at this moment. Where are the others?
I. Am. Disappointed.
Topic Starter
Alace
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EEeee
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Topic Starter
Alace
The real Alace is a child
so i just act like myself
deepsea

EEeee wrote:

hmm? well that's ur reason Alace, gotta admit it's an interesting opinion, the only thing I had a problem are 2 of the following

1st of all, when u weren't a BAT, u used to hmmmmm, well u were always asking/taking mod request, so basically I think that contradicts what u say, well kinda, old BATs do have to help new ones out, I follow u on that, but some of ur reasoning are just wack

2nd, at the end of that interesting poetry, u said "not *1 grid to the left* shitty modding. well ur asking for mods to help out right, so that was something shitty of u to say. Every mod/BAT has his/her own modding style, and this shitty modding, is sometimes really useful and since the kudosu are involved, if a mapper doesn't like this shitty modding, then the modder will know if he hasn't got kudosu or if the mapper simply explains on the thread. So I really hate this part of that poem of urs Alace, cause if u wanna say something like that, I would say somethin relating to u, and says not*fix this one thing and that's all* shitty modding, and if I recall u modded 2 of maps ever, and only pointed out 1 or 2 things, but I didn't complain, cause I found it useful. Last thing on this subject, I myself used to mod as Alace calls shitty modding and right now I think I mod better then Alace(only if his opinion on shitty modding is correct, cause I would call his that too)

So, hope u understand what I'm saying, just in case u do, I'll repeat myself
All modding styles are useful, not shitty, this shitty modding can help a player make his map better, and if the modder new at modding and mods shitty as Alace said, I wouldn't agree with Alace on this shitty subject

kk, I hope I understood ur English, if so, I agree that some BATs should help new ones out, but. . . I'm pretty sure they are still doing their Job Alace, u don't have to Bi*ch about any BAT and how they use their time.

Last and for most, Alace so, answer this, are u upset on doing ur job as a BAT, saying it's unfair that u have to mod like crazy while old ones don't, hmmm, is that why ur angry, if I recall u said u where an adult (back in the day) so I would say to u, fix ur attitude, cause atm ur acting like a child, complain on everything u just said. Man up man, cause if that first post was to get a message to someone, I can't agree most of it,


P.S. I think u had a problem with ur BAT thing at first, I wouldn't think about the past Alace, keep moving forward and do what u used to do best, ignore the rest bro, wish we can be friends again T____T
Well you don't agree what alace said about 1 grid modding, then think of "What's modding for?"

Make maps better, IMO.

Did all these modding help?

Sometimes what I see is a map was modded by dozens of modders, many posts, many stars, I thought this map is modded and worked a lot and ready to be bubbled. Then I opened the map and I was like "WTF".

Fucked up timing, messed pattern, unsnapped notes, nonsense jumps, etcetc made me faint.Yes modders do work, they do spend time, and it does help, but how much? Why people focus on the tiny things and neglect the important things?

This is offensive and cruel, but I call these modding garbage, for its (almost) useless. And also, they give new modders who wants to learn how to mod a bad example, and mess up the modding system. For all of this, I won't deny alace calling that shitty.

Also, if saying what he or she think in mind is defined being a child, then I would be a true child rather than a false adult. Sometimes it will be offensive or lead to misunderstanding, but at least they don't hide themselves. I don't think he or she should say things are all good even if he or she think they are shit, since he or she can explain why.

Also apologize to you two for things in #chinese today, I will try to STFU if its better next time.
EEeee
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minyeob

EEeee wrote:

hmm? well that's ur reason Alace, gotta admit it's an interesting opinion, the only thing I had a problem are 2 of the following

1st of all, when u weren't a BAT, u used to hmmmmm, well u were always asking/taking mod request, so basically I think that contradicts what u say, well kinda, old BATs do have to help new ones out, I follow u on that, but some of ur reasoning are just wack

2nd, at the end of that interesting poetry, u said "not *1 grid to the left* shitty modding. well ur asking for mods to help out right, so that was something shitty of u to say. Every mod/BAT has his/her own modding style, and this shitty modding, is sometimes really useful and since the kudosu are involved, if a mapper doesn't like this shitty modding, then the modder will know if he hasn't got kudosu or if the mapper simply explains on the thread. So I really hate this part of that poem of urs Alace, cause if u wanna say something like that, I would say somethin relating to u, and says not*fix this one thing and that's all* shitty modding, and if I recall u modded 2 of maps ever, and only pointed out 1 or 2 things, but I didn't complain, cause I found it useful. Last thing on this subject, I myself used to mod as Alace calls shitty modding and right now I think I mod better then Alace(only if his opinion on shitty modding is correct, cause I would call his that too)

So, hope u understand what I'm saying, just in case u do, I'll repeat myself
All modding styles are useful, not shitty, this shitty modding can help a player make his map better, and if the modder new at modding and mods shitty as Alace said, I wouldn't agree with Alace on this shitty subject

kk, I hope I understood ur English, if so, I agree that some BATs should help new ones out, but. . . I'm pretty sure they are still doing their Job Alace, u don't have to Bi*ch about any BAT and how they use their time.

Last and for most, Alace so, answer this, are u upset on doing ur job as a BAT, saying it's unfair that u have to mod like crazy while old ones don't, hmmm, is that why ur angry, if I recall u said u where an adult (back in the day) so I would say to u, fix ur attitude, cause atm ur acting like a child, complain on everything u just said. Man up man, cause if that first post was to get a message to someone, I can't agree most of it,


P.S. I think u had a problem with ur BAT thing at first, I wouldn't think about the past Alace, keep moving forward and do what u used to do best, ignore the rest bro, wish we can be friends again T____T
Woah..... Long post, EEeee.
1st-> Well...... He could accept mod requests because he was not a BAT. Accepting mod request makes little confusing. (For BATs) because they have to think about their mod rules. Accepting mod request is kinda unfair.
2nd-> I think spacing nazi(Grid level 1 only) is necessary. Electroshock's ugly spaced thing made me really annoying:;
I think hitsound nazi is worse than spacing nazi. Well my final opinion is, I agree with you, EEeee all modding styles
are useful.
Last thing-> I think Alace is not upset doing his job as a BAT. He'll regain his own mind soon~

@EEeee you should have posted that before!!!
alvisto

mtmcl wrote:

alvisto wrote:

The system itself is ok I think, just that people running that system is *ahem*.
Let me tell you all a sob story.

Attending college and earning a Masters in Education is my dream. I want to be a teacher. Life without education is meaningless to me. My aunt paid for my first semester of college after I graduated from high school. At that time, my father was a nurse and my family was financially stable. I decided to get a job so I could continue to pay for college. That summer, however, my father died of lymphoma, leaving me the only person in my family with a job. I dropped my college classes and started taking more hours at work so the bills could be paid. Fast forward one year. My mother finally has a job. She makes just a little more than I do. The life insurance has run out and our combined income can barely pay the bills. I'm practically on-call for my job, taking every extra hour I'm given. All my money goes to paying the bills. College is a far away dream. I've applied for financial aid three times, one time when my mother didn't have a job, and was denied each time.
Thanks for sharing that story with us Mark. I appreciate it, and I always appreciate your chat with us and your ability to remember me in irc. :3

What I posted earlier was just my feelings as a new mapper, no any blame/offense/ill intents !

Well, apparently I can't add note on wish...

Wish I could get the baton and pass it as well... =D
Mystearica
I stopped at 1:31:754

Next mapper up please~

Download: Kaori Hikita - Negai (Alace) [Wish].osu
deepsea
MegaManEXE
I think these slider shapes are becoming my specialty >_>

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Larto
I mapped 10 seconds.. I feel kinda bad that I'm mapping this, because I'm obviously part of why this system doesn't work.. But I cannot deny that I have the wish of the modding system working one day, we just need to try as hard as we can..
Thank you Alace. Your Wall of text made me realize that we the system needs to change. I will from now on work more for this system. At least, as long as I remember this map. I hope that will be for a long time. :|

Download: Kaori Hikita - Negai (Alace) [Wish].osu
Shinxyn
I mapped a quick 10 sec.. Good luck continuing to get your voice out

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Starrodkirby86
T_T

02:10:63 (1) to 02:17:91 (4)

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Topic Starter
Alace
Larto
I always told other people that I wanted to be as good a BAT as you
I'm sure you are one of the best BATs in this community
You fought alone for 6 months, you need partners to support you
The people who posted here are your partners
We all share the wish that this community can be better so that everyone enjoy playing/mapping

Thanks for doing your part, but just remember not to become the BAT that you hate (ignoring people, talking crap all day,
tag ranking)

Just be as good as you were 6 months ago.
Starrodkirby86
00:57:11 (1) to 01:09:38 (2).

When I became a BAT, I didn't want to affiliate myself with tag ranking so so much. I don't even have maps of my own that I want ranked at the moment (Other people's maps I want ranked more~). When I became a BAT, I wanted to fulfill the true duties it asks for. I'm glad I'm not alone. <3

Download: Kaori Hikita - Negai (Alace) [Unrankable].osu
gdeath
02:18:36-->02:24:95 :P

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Hanyuu
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

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MegaManEXE

Hanyuu wrote:

i forgot haha

the unrankable needs mroe custom hitsound !!!! like in time to air. DIG IT DIG IT
Oh god yes

Alace use those 1 2 3 4 5 6 kiou sounds

Do ittttttttttttt
Topic Starter
Alace
Let me try
DeadAlready
02:25:18 - 02:34:27 @_@

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alvisto
This is my part. Sorry if it's ugly, I am a new mapper.... :3

This is my wish too. =DDownload: Kaori Hikita - Negai (Alace) [Wish].osu
kioukiou
02:43:819 ~ 02:51:546

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DJPop
~Unrankable~

01:03:254 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - they're PLAYABLE :lol: :lol: :lol:
shindrgon
From 02:00:06 (2) - to 02:25:36 (1) -
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Make a break and from 03:02:45 (1) - to 03:16:54 (2) -
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Topic Starter
Alace
I delete the unrankable diff in mapset
because some people`s cpu may be broken after playing this
but guys
keep on going
This unrankable diff is tooooooo cool
Card N'FoRcE
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Mystearica
lol

I basically say the same thing as Alace yet you criticize me and you glorify Alace because he's a BAT?

How low are you? I have no respect for you whatsoever. Did you know how this Negai project was started? What a hypocrite.

I guess for someone that befriends BATs and get their shit ranked fast, it doesn't really matter.
mtmcl
Yep, this thread is being swamped with BAT bashing.
Polaris03_old
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Topic Starter
Alace
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