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kioukiou
02:43:819 ~ 02:51:546

Download: Kaori Hikita - Negai (Alace) [Wish].osu
DJPop
~Unrankable~

01:03:254 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - they're PLAYABLE :lol: :lol: :lol:
shindrgon
From 02:00:06 (2) - to 02:25:36 (1) -
Download: Kaori Hikita - Negai (Alace) [Unrankable].osu
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Download: Kaori Hikita - Negai (Alace) [Wish].osu

Topic Starter
Alace
I delete the unrankable diff in mapset
because some people`s cpu may be broken after playing this
but guys
keep on going
This unrankable diff is tooooooo cool
Card N'FoRcE
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Download: Kaori Hikita - Negai (Alace) [Wish].osu
Mystearica
lol

I basically say the same thing as Alace yet you criticize me and you glorify Alace because he's a BAT?

How low are you? I have no respect for you whatsoever. Did you know how this Negai project was started? What a hypocrite.

I guess for someone that befriends BATs and get their shit ranked fast, it doesn't really matter.
mtmcl
Yep, this thread is being swamped with BAT bashing.
Polaris03_old
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Topic Starter
Alace
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tobebuta
Lesjuh
al2e10
I kuow what you say ...
I know you are so TIRED ...

I give you a world "我支持你呀!"
老師^^

To All BAT:
DO NOT GIVE UP !!
tieff
Jarby
Is BAT-related drama a Work In Progress map or something?
avira0922
3:49:728~4:05:209

wish

あい うぃっしゅ (´∀`*)
Topic Starter
Alace
It`s done thank you guys
people still can post something here to share your wish

btw
this map is not for ranking soi won`t change anything
This map is not really a map
it is our little wish
Sleep Powder
Wonderful~
al2e10
Doomsday
i didn't get a chance to map in this but i'll still give you support. i'll be a happy man if i see this system perfected sometime.

but to be brutally honest, i don't think it'll happen. sure, you can go out of your way and pull all of the stops to fix one problem with the system, but then you'll look back to find 3 more. as much as i want a perfect system, odds are it isn't going to happen.

you still get my support anyway though, because you never know, because even though we probably won't get a perfect system, we can still improve this one
WyndII
Air.=3.sugoi..sugoi...
anonymous_old
Wow.
Derekku
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ignorethis
hi
peppy
A perfect system. A wish.

Ha. I can only laugh, sorry. It is very easy to "wish", but if you want things to change you actually have to take action. I'm not talking to anyone in particular here - just answering to the tone of the conversation up until now.

p.s. A "perfect system" is impossible. I'm not sure if you missed the iterations we have gone through over time, the different ideas put forward. As long as humans are judging maps it is impossible.

Of course humans don't have to judge *looks towards AIMod*. That should at least solve the "1 grid thing left" instead of people doing that in modding at the moment.
Sleepman
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ddrmaniac
I agree with alace, and well said

Yes, there needs to be a fairer system.

What good does it do if the same people have their maps ranked. Look at the first 10 pages. Its basically the same people over and over again, and some of them are BATs. There are finished unranked maps that could be ranked or approved or should be looked at that have been up longer than some of the ranked maps. IMO thats a sign of people only helping their friends. (In General) Yes, there are people who go through the pending/help maps just for kudosu and not neccesarily want to help. What good does it do to tell someone the offset and then ditch them and then they expect people to give them kudosu. If there were more people who would actually go look at maps of people who aren't "known" and actually help them, maybe things would be better. There are people that work their butts off on a map that no one will really look at.

What good does it do if you have to have connections in order to get your map ranked/approved!
Mystearica
Nobody's wishing for a perfect system, but instead we all here just want a more fair one. We all understand there's no such thing as a perfect system.

Basing your attack on the whole "perfect system" premise doesn't work, because that's not what we want to begin with. There will be corruption and the such in ANY system, obviously. The matter is the extent to which such matters exist.

The repaired BAT rankings actually go quite well with this thread. I also love how some people quoted the first couple line's of peppy's response and put it as their signature. Come on, what's that going to do? We want a fairer system, and this is how we took action. We're doing exactly what you're telling us to do, yet you have to shoot us down with straw-man arguments...

More active BATs (note: this is not saying add more BATs, just more activity from inactive ones or the such is suggested) and less BAT tagging each others' maps and more BATs paying attention to user maps, that's ALL we want. I think this is a simple message, it's not intended to pick out anyone, it's not intended to flame your system, it's just our wish.

AIMod would certainly reduce the amount of "slave labor" BATs have to perform, but I still believe BATs should manually check maps, no AI is perfect either.

That's my last post in this thread, I hope you guys will read it from a neutral perspective and really just try to understand what I'm trying to say. That's all.
Topic Starter
Alace

Mystearica wrote:

Nobody's wishing for a perfect system, but instead we all here just want a more fair one. We all understand there's no such thing as a perfect system.

Basing your attack on the whole "perfect system" premise doesn't work, because that's not what we want to begin with. There will be corruption and the such in ANY system, obviously. The matter is the extent to which such matters exist.

The repaired BAT rankings actually go quite well with this thread. I also love how some people quoted the first couple line's of peppy's response and put it as their signature. Come on, what's that going to do? We want a fairer system, and this is how we took action. We're doing exactly what you're telling us to do, yet you have to shoot us down with straw-man arguments...

More active BATs (note: this is not saying add more BATs, just more activity from inactive ones or the such is suggested) and less BAT tagging each others' maps and more BATs paying attention to user maps, that's ALL we want. I think this is a simple message, it's not intended to pick out anyone, it's not intended to flame your system, it's just our wish.

AIMod would certainly reduce the amount of "slave labor" BATs have to perform, but I still believe BATs should manually check maps, no AI is perfect either.

That's my last post in this thread, I hope you guys will read it from a neutral perspective and really just try to understand what I'm trying to say. That's all.
I agree with Mystearica
I even don`t use the word (perfect) in my posts

btw i already took actions to do what i can
that`s all
peppy
Hey Mystearica, I understand you only joined osu! recently, but you may want to consider the history of the moderation system, and how many iterations it has been through. You may also want to consider that every member of the community can mod. BAT members only need to rank maps. If everyone in this thread helped with the modding process as much as an "active BAT member", you would instantly see a positive change.

Problem is, most people can't be fucked modding. They want others to mod their maps. This feeling gets transferred to the BAT, as it is "their job" to mod maps. I think this is bullshit. I also think asking for more active BAT members when you are getting over 5 new ranked songs a day is bullshit. I also think you guys need to start pointing the finger if you are going to make this "tag ranking" and "lazy BAT member" accusations - I totally approve if you single one person out for the purpose of actually clarifying WHAT THE FUCK you are on about.

I can't force all BAT members to increase their activity. That is like forcing all children at school to get As. It is like you trying to get me to code new features faster. I will do it at my own pace. The BAT will mod at their own pace. If you don't like this, then HELP by modding maps yourself. If you mod to a map to a perfect state, it can be ranked with ~15minutes attention from two team members, rather than an average of 1 hour from each.

That said; this isn't the right place to discuss any of this shit. I don't agree with the tone of this thread and this will be my last post. I would prefer any further discussion to be directed to another location.
gp0_old
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orioncomet
Wonderful~ <3
Cyril Scarlet
nice map ~

and thank for today in osu.

ps. I like your sentence "When BATs want their own maps to be ranked they tag each other."
Echona
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dkey
nice song~
nice map=v=b
sohuhard
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PicoLo
~Star. ;)
Mystearica
More or less finished I suppose?

Very "unique" if I had to describe this in one word, many mapping styles combined into one map ^_^

pros and cons to that

EDIT: @ post below I've been on Neptune for the past 2 months actually

EDIT2: @ post below lol no
MegaManEXE
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skranger
That is a great map.
star~
taihw
Hopefully my replays will speak for me. Really strange spacing, if you ask me.
I don't like the claps, but the snare fill was awesome. Beautiful song. We definitely need more ballad-style songs like this.

-tai

Download: taihw - Kaori Hikita - Negai [Wish] (2009-10-11) Osu attempt 2 (tablet).osr
Topic Starter
Alace
I still listen to this song somethimes
to remind myself something
Mystearica
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Gabi
i should have came here before i lost my will to everything in this world

:3
Topic Starter
Alace
負けないで (don`t give up)
Even the situation is bad
we should follow our own will to map and share
tsuka
alace sensei you are my idol T_T

I haven't understand what map can be ranked still now
It's depend on the bats or rules?
I'm really confused
Topic Starter
Alace
well
wait and see
we can just do what we can for now
yaya
do what you can do
so
make yourself more fat plz .
plz . :)
Topic Starter
Alace
go die XD
otakumak
star
Uan
Good map~0.0
Heatherfield
Star
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