What results?Derekku Chan wrote:
Uhh yes? What about it?Echo wrote:
I thought you claimed townie (brownie) :/Derekku Chan wrote:
*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
What results?Derekku Chan wrote:
Uhh yes? What about it?Echo wrote:
I thought you claimed townie (brownie) :/Derekku Chan wrote:
*also awaiting his results before making a vote*
Uhhh, I'm a townie, I don't HAVE any results ._.Echo wrote:
What results?
that is the stupidest idea ive ever heard. that makes you sound like mafia in my eyes. "Hey guyz lets kill the people that claim cop so they dont investigate me thats a great idea~ ^_^"Derekku Chan wrote:
Okay, I'm going to throw an idea out here and it'll probably get shot down.
[theory]
There are two mafia in this game. They are adam and SFG. They both claimed cop to lessen suspicion on themselves. Cops can be crucial to this game, and so usually people won't vote for them. But after a couple of days and we've "learned their sanities" (aka lies), we completely trust them, but then everyone else gets lynched and they (the mafia) win.[/theory]
I think that the best action today would be to lynch one of them and see what their role is. Truthfully, I don't even think that it's worth saving a "cop" until we've seen their results. By the time we've figured out their sanities, it's too late (like I said above). Truthfully, cops shouldn't even role claim unless they have results and are sure of them (or are mafia being crafty). This just brings more suspicious onto them.
Okay I'm tired of thinking for tonight so I'll stop here. *puts on flame shield*
adam2046 wrote:
I don't like your idea...why would we kill me?
As a note, I try to avoid fake claiming when I'm mafia especially first day since you know, THERE COULD BE OTHER COPS.
THERE COULD BE OTHER COPS.like me maybe?
*facefloor* Oh God wow am I that stupid? I completely forgot that a cop can investigate themselves arghhh sorry. (But oh wait adam investigated SFG first which does NOTHING for me)strager wrote:
Right, so if a Cop is killed before D3, we know their sanity. No need to self-invstigate and waste a Day.
Unless she really is just pulling a shitty move and is really mafia ugh so confusing.0_o wrote:
Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..
whatSaturos-fangirl wrote:
geez this is just the kind of crazy role Subi would get
welp im not a jester anymore. guess he didnt want me to give up. sooooo....well my new role HAS to be town-known for it to work so i HAVE to claim it.
Claim: Pressured doctor
i can protect people at twilight, but only if at least half of the town pm's me during twilight telling me who to protect. I have to forward the pm's to LadySuburu so he can confirm it.
the pm must only contain the person i am to protect, and can only be sent once per person, so think carefully x_x if two of you (im the third for the majority atm) agree is the only time i can protect someone. if i get more than that i have to follow the majority.
information is public because i have no choice dont flame me for it plz
pay attention. i got a new role.0_o wrote:
That's why we have to lynch her tomorrow. If she isn't mafia, the mafia will NK her because they don't want a jester win any more than we do. If she survives the night, that tells us that the mafia didn't want to kill her, and the only reason that would happen is if she is a mafia member.Derekku Chan wrote:
Unless she really is just pulling a shitty move and is really mafia ugh so confusing.0_o wrote:
Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..
You can.0_o wrote:
mod: I'm assuming we can't tell her to protect herself?
thats why i have to forward them, i assume. you cant mess with forwards, thats why youre never allowed to forward in WW games ;ostrager wrote:
Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?
Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.
I feel forwarding is safe, but if enough people would prefer it the other way.., You can have a vote on it, if you want.strager wrote:
Well, whatever. I still think it is safer to PM LS.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
thats why i have to forward them, i assume. you cant mess with forwards, thats why youre never allowed to forward in WW games ;ostrager wrote:
Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?
Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.
Mod: Should SFG's role be changed so protection votes are sent to you instead of SFG?
I thought the game continued, though.0_o wrote:
If SFG was the jester then she is a third party, separate from the mafia and the town. Neither parties want the jester to win, so it would have been in both of their best interests to get rid of her.strager wrote:
And 0_o, that's WIFOMmy (is that the correct usage?). Mafia would know this and decide not to kill SFG, resulting in a wasted D2 kill. I hope you didn't see this; otherwise, you're looking pretty scummy now.
You're making yourself more and more suspicious here.adam2046 wrote:
Hmm?
I didn't actually investigate SFG.
I just figured she was the jester...and then something else happened, but whatever that's in the past.
Seriously.0_o wrote:
So adam how come you haven't made an investigation yet, and if you have why aren't you telling us?
...Derekku Chan wrote:
Uh, then he was probably smart and investigated himself and just won't tell us for obvious reasons. God adam did you have to be so difficult
I'll say for everyone, "okay."Echo wrote:
@everyone in general
when you assume, you make an ass of u and me
so please don't reply *for* anyone else
Hey, buddy, let's hammer him!adam2046 wrote:
On a different note, I feel slightly uneasy about Echo :/
I wouldn't, really. We could waste a lynch doing that.Echo wrote:
Since he's the only cop left, can we assume he's sane?
Perhaps.adam2046 wrote:
Also I notice a distinct lack of Echo wearing his underpants on the outside in this game which is most likely what's making me feel uneasy. (SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVIOUR OF THE TOOOOOOOOOWN)
lol.Lucidity wrote:
Oh, one last thing I observed is that Echo seems to be quiet and Lurking. He did it on purpose in NM3 as a Mafia Goon...Might be arrogant enough to do it again.
Ignore that, I missed a post.strager wrote:
Also, adam, your investigations results would be reeeeeeeally helpful now.
Meh, I don't. I wouldn't mind him being lynched D1, unless he did have some aux power.0_o wrote:
Derekku I have a good feeling about (probably because of the twilight brownie weirdness)
Wasn't adam already the one to lynch before Lucidity voted? Voting for adam wouldn't do anything, ignoring future actions (e.g. your vote on me). She did, however, allow you to get a third vote on me for L-1. SFG and Derekku retracted their votes (they probably forgot they had dangerous votes on adam). Suspiciously, after you make me the vote target, you vote for Echo. Either this was to try and cover up putting me as the highest voted player for lynching, or it was so you could level the votes and have someone decide the lynch after some more discussion. (Several players would have the opportunity to do this.)0_o wrote:
Lucidity I am mildly suspicious of, but he did gain some points for resisting to change his vote to adam when the day could have ended at any time
So it's guilty-until-proven-innocent?0_o wrote:
This leaves Echo. I can't really find anything that makes me believe he is innocent. adam also pointed out his different behaviour here, which is also a factor.
Lynching a vanilla is better than an aux, but it's still worse than lynching Mafia ;p It's best to attempt to kill Mafia instead of sacrificing townies, no?strager wrote:
Meh, I don't. I wouldn't mind him being lynched D1, unless he did have some aux power.0_o wrote:
Derekku I have a good feeling about (probably because of the twilight brownie weirdness)
Not according to this: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=168449&sid=b0b9d52fa6f85dc688bde71b47a86a9d&sid=c6d55453126ea77feaf92cae138862b0#p168449. There was no official vote count though.strager wrote:
Wasn't adam already the one to lynch before Lucidity voted?0_o wrote:
Lucidity I am mildly suspicious of, but he did gain some points for resisting to change his vote to adam when the day could have ended at any time
But Aya is my waifu :30_o wrote:
Lucidity can you please change your avatar to something not female so I stop calling you "she"
That's what I'm trying to do. In the case that you aren't the Mafia, the loss of a Vanilla role is better than the loss of an Aux role.Lucidity wrote:
Lynching a vanilla is better than an aux, but it's still worse than lynching Mafia ;p It's best to attempt to kill Mafia instead of sacrificing townies, no?strager wrote:
Meh, I don't. I wouldn't mind him being lynched D1, unless he did have some aux power.0_o wrote:
Derekku I have a good feeling about (probably because of the twilight brownie weirdness)
Oh, right. Sorry.Lucidity wrote:
Not according to this: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=168449#p168449. There was no official vote count though.strager wrote:
Wasn't adam already the one to lynch before Lucidity voted?0_o wrote:
Lucidity I am mildly suspicious of, but he did gain some points for resisting to change his vote to adam when the day could have ended at any time
You married yourself?Lucidity wrote:
But Aya is my waifu :30_o wrote:
Lucidity can you please change your avatar to something not female so I stop calling you "she"
if we have a cop and a doctor, any more pro-town roles in a game this small would make the town far too powerfulLucidity wrote:
Elaborate.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
cool im going to vote Lucidity because hes just playing badly and i highly doubt he has an important role other than perhaps mafia
This was because the game could have ended at any time, and at that moment adam would have been the one lynched, so the only way to prevent that from happening would be to vote for you.strager wrote:
Suspiciously, after you make me the vote target, you vote for Echo. Either this was to try and cover up putting me as the highest voted player for lynching, or it was so you could level the votes and have someone decide the lynch after some more discussion. (Several players would have the opportunity to do this.)
I'm pretty sure that's how this game works really =/strager wrote:
So it's guilty-until-proven-innocent?