Lucidity wrote:
Yeah, I don't buy that you were a Jester...
0_o and Echo shared the same reasoning as me about your fake claim, yet they're both highly respected by you...If anything strager should be classified as the "weakest" player for believing your claim to be truthful and even defending you on numerous occasions. Anyway, basing weakness on who guessed your role right is a silly measure to begin with. You're not even taking possible aux roles into account.
actually you kinda have a point on strager there. 0_o i dont really trust as much as you say i do...i just think he has a bit of a leg over you since i know how he plays. Echo, I know well enough to be able to differentiate as mafia or not by his actions once it gets to endgame, or at least i have confidence that i will know what side he is on by the time i would need to vote him were he mafia.
Anyway, I'm having doubts about the validity of your new role claim. After LS's admission of a mistake you might have grabbed the opportunity and made a new play. Congrats on getting the "Adjective" "Role" name down this time though.
hey, my original role did NOT have an adjective affixed to the front of it thankyouverymuch.
Here's why I think the role is fishy:
*There is no reason for the role to exist. If who we save is based on votes from the players then what's the point in having a middleman to forward every single vote to LS? Why not send our votes to LS in the first place?
good reason #1. if Subi suspects im cheating he can check when he is over at my place and modkill me if i lied to him. he obviously trusts me, but he ALSO left room for you guys to change it if YOU dont trust me to play a game i hold in high respect the way im supposed to. there are places to be underhanded, deceiving, misleading, yes, but im no cheater and actually rather offended that youre trying to classify me as one.
*If there are 7 alive you'd need 4-7 votes (4 being highly unlikely) for any kind of majority. This could take a while to be received by you and then forwarded. Indeed, if the Mafia are sharp (or only 1 person) then they'd submit their night kill as soon as Twilight is announced. I'll go look for it later, but LS mentioned earlier in this thread that actions are carried out immediately when they're received. A doctor role that works like this would be useless.
1. there will be six alive if we lynch someone. that means that as long as at least two people vote for the same person, i can add my vote to that and protect that person. (6/2 = 3)
2. LS said that DAY actions occur immediately. He also specifically said that TWILIGHT actions function like normal twilight - if he gets all of them in early, he'll start Day early, but other actions get precedence over NK. Nice try though.
*The existence of this role makes you innocent. The need for it to be public doesn't make sense to me. Why would LS give us a publicly innocent player?
1. I'm exactly as safe as any other role claim here is. you can choose to believe me or not and the only way for you guys to know who everyone voted to protect is to ask in-thread, in which case if i were mafia i could read it and use it anyways.
2. I did NOT make up this role, im just acting on it, so if you have complaints about it bring them to Subi kthnxbai
*There exists the possibility that you're a 3rd party/mafia that needs a majority of our votes to kill someone. This would be a powerful twist in that we'll kill the player that we think is most valuable.
ok cool, theres a lot of possibilities out there and im sure this is one of them. its also possible that im Spartacus and now that ive claimed it i can magically acquire the roles of Doctor, Cop, Ninja, and Traitor and do whatever the heck i feel like. How much do you want to think about possibility?
Oh hey heres a good one! what if im some new kind of role that mindwipes everyone that sends a pm to me and makes them my minions~ i could even minionize the MAFIA that way and instantly win. thatd be cool. Thats a possibility.
Actually i think this falls under the realm of "giving the GM ideas" so ill stop now cus i think ive made my point.
I've had a look at the supposed "confirmation" of SFG's role by LS and I don't think it's a confirmation at all. The post is here. She acknowledges that forwarding is safe. She says that we can have a vote on it and we can change to something else if we want. There's no way that she'd publicly acknowledge SFG's role though. Those posts are too general to be considered a confirmation anyway. SFG is back on my suspect list ~
congratulations, you have figured out that Subi is a good enough GM that he wont screw the game up if people start fishing for confirmations. again, i think its kind of insulting to doubt the ability of your GM but hey, you have the freedom to flame up a storm and all we'll do is edit/delete/ban things that get overly out of hand. *sarcastic round of applause*
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