Agka wrote:

+support

Would at the very least fix most major issues with hitsounding.

woc2006 wrote:

2.What is silence?
You're not allowed to mute hitsound, keep the volume at 50%~70%, but replace hitsound file with empty one. Players can easily find back hitsound by overriding with his own hitsound from skin or osu!.

Hanyuu wrote:

Any song should be allowed to have blank hitsounds, doesnt matter if instrumental or not. And for the players that like to have their songs distorted by unfitting hitsounds or hitsounds that cover up even fine details of the song they can check the ignore skin option to have that. Its also better to play without wrong feedback, meaning no hitsounds because you don't really get distracted by it, you pay more attention to the notes and figure out easier just by the sequence of button presses what you are actually playing and it gives a deeper understanding about the song and what the map is meant to represent. Unfitting hitsounds does the opposite for me, compared to fully keysounded or just blank.
Also +1 support

D33d wrote:

What defines "full key sounds?" A group of different sounds for each section in the song's structure or lots of different sounds for each line of the music?

ljqandylee wrote:

Then is it allowed if my keysounds set contains mute hitsound?

I wish to add some hitsounds to make a song sounds better, but I don't want every note to have its own hitsound, bcz some notes are just following a kind of instrument in the song, if I also have to add hitsounds to them, it will be either reduplicate or inappropiate.

If it is allowed, then I'll agree with this rule xD

peppy wrote:

Keep in mind that as much as you disagree with the rules, if you are able to take a step back and look at the outcome of setting stricter rules, you will realise they will only do the community good. Try to think about these things objectively rather than how it may affect or offend you personally.

Basically, I am just posting this to say that while I also have a few problems with some of the rules here, it is a working document and changes can be made. If you don't agree with something:

* State the exact rule you do not agree with (do not focus on the new rules as an overall "bad" thing).
* State why you do not agree with it. Make sure you have a better reason than "I don't like it" or "that's not how I roll".
* State how you would reword or change the rule in order to make it work better for the good of the community.

Do not attack other people. Do not criticise how this thread was made, or who was and who wasn't included in its creation. You are all here now to help us shape these rules into something that will increase the quality of mapping to a new level.

Yes these rules are in place, but if they are stopping you from getting your existing beatmap from being ranked, your map isn't suddenly going to explode. We can talk these things through and if the result is an unrankable map, you *can* decide to change your map.

It's a bit late to say this, but please only post if you can abide by the points I have mentioned above. So far only a small portion of posts have managed to do this. Feel free to delete your posts if you didn't, as you are not being productive.

Sakura wrote:

Before anyone else posts more +1/support as the only thing in their posts without any reasoning:

peppy wrote:

Keep in mind that as much as you disagree with the rules, if you are able to take a step back and look at the outcome of setting stricter rules, you will realise they will only do the community good. Try to think about these things objectively rather than how it may affect or offend you personally.

Basically, I am just posting this to say that while I also have a few problems with some of the rules here, it is a working document and changes can be made. If you don't agree with something:

* State the exact rule you do not agree with (do not focus on the new rules as an overall "bad" thing).
* State why you do not agree with it. Make sure you have a better reason than "I don't like it" or "that's not how I roll".
* State how you would reword or change the rule in order to make it work better for the good of the community.

Do not attack other people. Do not criticise how this thread was made, or who was and who wasn't included in its creation. You are all here now to help us shape these rules into something that will increase the quality of mapping to a new level.

Yes these rules are in place, but if they are stopping you from getting your existing beatmap from being ranked, your map isn't suddenly going to explode. We can talk these things through and if the result is an unrankable map, you *can* decide to change your map.

It's a bit late to say this, but please only post if you can abide by the points I have mentioned above. So far only a small portion of posts have managed to do this. Feel free to delete your posts if you didn't, as you are not being productive.

If within 24 hours none of the posts have been edited to provide reasoning or anything like that they'll be deleted (only the ones that only say +1 or Support)

@woc: the override hitsounds doesn't work well if people dont actually bother doiing proper hitsounding as i specified in: p/2296674

Sakura wrote:

Well that makes sense, tho i hope people do mod the hitsounds then. I still dont see the reason to silencing them IF you are already doing proper hitsounding with normal, clap, whistle, finish tho, the only difference is that if you use blank.wav then the player has to pass the map to be able to hear hitsounds and if you don't they can hear them from the get go or mute them.

Draconi wrote:

There are some things I don't think are clear from the first post so I'd like to ask a couple things:

1. By instrumental you mean the whole song or just sections of it? As in, can you make non-vocal parts of the song silent and hitsounds only on vocal parts?
2. If you manage to fully keysound the instruments of a song with vocals, do you still have to add hitsounds as accompaniment to the vocals or can you ignore them?

ishimaru94 wrote:

Since PROGUY's map, https://osu.ppy.sh/s/85585 were using all the same hitsound and already ranked, so does it means that this thread is denied?