You are right that's the hardest map, sorry.
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Shuriken_old_1
Yeah... I remember when I fced 4d, still can't pass big black thoughShuriken wrote:
Ranked: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/41823
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Unranked:https://osu.ppy.sh/s/17380
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(((the big black is no where near hardest since it has such a low drain
its incredibly hard to fc but relatively easy to pass
then again same can be said about airman
and cirno tag4 (which is apparently harder than all three of those since Cookiezi FC'd them but not this)
Soarezi
You're right about it being harder, but is it even a map? xoMillhioreF wrote:
and cirno tag4 (which is apparently harder than all three of those since Cookiezi FC'd them but not this)
This thread has become at this point a very philosophical (lol) debate about "what is a map" (should Tag4 even count? It wasn't made to be played by one person to begin with) and "what do you go by for -hard-" (hard to pass with default settings? hard to pass with HP7? hard to FC with retries? hard to FC in an average play? hard to SS? hard to SS on OD10?)
Since every combination of answers to these questions results in a different "hardest" map.
Why not just go into edit, open a random song, put 10000bpm, put a long slider, use the convert slider to stream tool, and post it here ;w; it's just as good as anything people were linking in the last few pages. (maybe lock?)
it is a beatmap because it is a beatmap
Oh, are we counting unranked maps now? Then this one wins. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/44126
Big money 
There's a threshold where all beatmaps are equally hard. I think that comes when you put 10+ circles offscreen at HP10. If you're gonna count unranked maps, I think that one wins for sure (as well as any similar map)
val0108's [My Art] on Scarlet Rose is obviously the hardest map ever
even tom's diffcalc agrees
even tom's diffcalc agrees
Chocobo, while really hard, has been SS'd multiple times. Wouldn't be close to one of the hardest.Awoken- wrote:
TAG4 maps and Chocobo (Gold)?
According to tom's diffcalc, hardest map would be Radio Free Zerg - High TemplarRLC wrote:
val0108's [My Art] on Scarlet Rose is obviously the hardest map ever
even tom's diffcalc agrees
On the normal version of the calc that is locked at difficulty 9000, all of those are paired. But on the version without the limiter, lewatuuba wins with an outstanding difficulty level that cuts through skies with the power of a thousand suns.GoldenWolf wrote:
According to tom's diffcalc, hardest map would be Radio Free Zerg - High Templar
Lewa is a sexy monster, you know this.
i bet a lot more people can pass most of the maps posted here than people who can pass freedom dive
there we have it
there we have it
scarlet rose and big black O_O 
Top-tip: ctrl+c copies difficulty info into your clipboard. And this is not capped by anything, only the GUI display is. (Despite all diffs over 9000 getting displayed the same way they are still sorted correctly.)Aqo wrote:
On the normal version of the calc that is locked at difficulty 9000, all of those are paired. But on the version without the limiter, lewatuuba wins with an outstanding difficulty level that cuts through skies with the power of a thousand suns.GoldenWolf wrote:
According to tom's diffcalc, hardest map would be Radio Free Zerg - High Templar
Lewa is a sexy monster, you know this.
8441able, definitely
because snapping is relatively easy and keeping a consistent flow at superhigh pace is just way harder
once you're out, you're out - pattern and game
*poofs*
because snapping is relatively easy and keeping a consistent flow at superhigh pace is just way harder
once you're out, you're out - pattern and game
*poofs*
Ok I don't even get this one, people consider scarlet rose hard at all?Feel The Wind wrote:
scarlet rose and big black O_O
It seems like there's a correlation between when people first discover BPM sorting and between when they discover this thread.jesus1412 wrote:
Ok I don't even get this one, people consider scarlet rose hard at all?
scarlet rose hard
If you can singletap 320 bpm, it's not hard. If you can't, it's hard.jesus1412 wrote:
Ok I don't even get this one, people consider scarlet rose hard at all?Feel The Wind wrote:
scarlet rose and big black O_O
alternate master race
Even by alternating it's not that hard. I feel it's the easiest one of all those high BPM single tap maps.
Except for the last part there it gets harder.
Except for the last part there it gets harder.
Yay for having zero coordination!Wishy wrote:
Even by alternating it's not that hard.
It's like streaming low BPM. (
(passing scarlet rose: relatively easy, heck, even I nearly did that.
doing it with an acceptable accuracy: hard.
fcing it (bonus points for good acc): have fun, it will take you a while.
doing it with an acceptable accuracy: hard.
fcing it (bonus points for good acc): have fun, it will take you a while.
nearly everyone i know that can alternate gets 95% acc every run
Wishy wrote:
Even by alternating it's not that hard. I feel it's the easiest one of all those high BPM single tap maps.
Except for the last part there it gets harder.
Yeah it's easy to have 97-98% up until the ending part. Usually kills me to 95-96%.
If we're comparing the amount of S/SS's on the maps, Cry For Eternity may be one, since White Wolf and Cookiezi were the only people to achieve an S for the map.
Streams that require finger dexterity, smaller hit circles require high cursor accuracy, and the song itself is long enough (lasting around 8 minutes).
One of the hardest songs to S.
Streams that require finger dexterity, smaller hit circles require high cursor accuracy, and the song itself is long enough (lasting around 8 minutes).
One of the hardest songs to S.
considering when they fc'd them, no. Far from the hardest beatmaps.AkoSuminoe wrote:
If we're comparing the amount of S/SS's on the maps, Cry For Eternity may be one, since White Wolf and Cookiezi were the only people to achieve an S for the map.
Streams that require finger dexterity, smaller hit circles require high cursor accuracy, and the song itself is long enough (lasting around 8 minutes).
One of the hardest songs to S.
Literally if we don't include the TAG4 maps, and regardless of when/how many players FC'ed it, 4d is the hardest in my opinion. Cookiezi was the only person to FC it without a difficulty reduction mod, where else everyone else below him who FCed mostly used a Half Time mod.
You can't deny the fact that it is so stamina draining.
You can't deny the fact that it is so stamina draining.
It's actually a lot harder to aim those streams at the end than to keep your stamina up to par.
Trust me on this one. ;_;
Trust me on this one. ;_;
exactly. streaming 222bpm continuously isn't that hard once you hit that level, which is about most of top 1000 or 500 in pp i bet. it's the spacing of the streams that fails almost everyone