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Yusuke Takahama - X - Tunnel Scene

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Xgor
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on den 22 augusti 2009 at 21:16:25

Artist: Yusuke Takahama
Title: X - Tunnel Scene
Source: Super Smash Bros Brawl
Tags: X Tunnel Scene Yusuke Takahama Super Smash Bros Brawl OST Wii Gameboy videogame Kazumi Totaka Lylat Cruise stage
BPM: 150
Filesize: 2243kb
Play Time: 01:37
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (0,67 stars, 63 notes)
  2. Insane (4,97 stars, 218 notes)
  3. Normal (2,87 stars, 117 notes)
Download: Yusuke Takahama - X - Tunnel Scene
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Well this is my first beatmap with the kickass X - Tunnel Scene from Super smash bros brawl!

Please tell me if you find any faults with it.

NOTE: if you downloaded the map before 5 july please redownload!

Edit1:I re-uploaded it becuse i by a mistake deleted the background.
Edit2:Added some sounds on insane
Edit3:Done a mayor fix with the distance snapping and a (almost) completely new Easy due to Starrodkirby86 pointed that out!
Edit4:minor improvments on easy and insane
Edit5:added more hitsounds and fixed some distance snapping in normal
Edit6:Did all the stuff that Saturos-fangirl pointed out
Edit7:fixed the things Metroid pointed out
Edit8:I added some of tieff suggestions! I also changed some other minor stuff and added a victory tune:)
Edit9:Changed some of the stuff blissfulyoshi complained about!
Edit10:Some stuff Alex0686 pointed out (everyting ecxept for slider tick changes)
Edit11:Fixed stuff that PandaCath pointed out and some other things
Edit12:Hopfully the last edit :) a shorter mp3 and other stuff Pasonia pointed out
Edit13:Added some tags!
Edit14:some of eee's changes
Edit15:fixed the offset and some disctance snapping
Edit16:Added some jumps on insane and a minor change on normal
Edit17:Fixed the minor stuff sesito71 pointed out
Edit18:MINOR FIX
Edit19:more fixes
Edit20:Some AIMod fixes on Insane. (i kept some problems that if i would fix them the beatmap would be worse!)
Edit21:Shorned the spinners on insane and added sliders there instead
Edit22:whymeman changes
Last edited by Xgor , edited 29 times in total.
Starrodkirby86
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Hello there. (:

Not letting this map go down into the depths of nothingness.

I can't give a formal modding because the list would be too long, unfortunately. :|

[Easy]:
There aren't any technical problems here because of its timing. That does not mean it can pass as something. What I mostly see on this difficulty were random notes splattered on the map with some sliders here and there (And the occasional spinner). The only somewhat good looking thing were the last three sliders. That was pretty cool. Add more hitsounds though.

[Normal]:
You got a good rhythm here. Very great rhythm. One thing that this map lacks though is proper spacing. Things should spaced according to the timing they are at, unless there are special circumstances (Such as jumps or designs). This is where you use Distance Snap. Enable it. At times where you feel the spacing feels right elsewhere, then don't hesitate to disable it. The spacing should be intuitive though~ Perhaps you should add more hitsounds here.

[Insane]:
This actually looks fun, aside from the Distance Snap errors. Enable DS, move around, have fun. Those sliders though, keep them nearly or as is. Stack some of them, do this and that. Please. This one looks awesome. :)

It's the usual first map. I'm not disappointed, I'm not upset, it's all what I expect. That's not a bad thing. Good luck. :)
Xgor
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Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Hello there. (:

Not letting this map go down into the depths of nothingness.

I can't give a formal modding because the list would be too long, unfortunately. :|

[Easy]:
There aren't any technical problems here because of its timing. That does not mean it can pass as something. What I mostly see on this difficulty were random notes splattered on the map with some sliders here and there (And the occasional spinner). The only somewhat good looking thing were the last three sliders. That was pretty cool. Add more hitsounds though.

[Normal]:
You got a good rhythm here. Very great rhythm. One thing that this map lacks though is proper spacing. Things should spaced according to the timing they are at, unless there are special circumstances (Such as jumps or designs). This is where you use Distance Snap. Enable it. At times where you feel the spacing feels right elsewhere, then don't hesitate to disable it. The spacing should be intuitive though~ Perhaps you should add more hitsounds here.

[Insane]:
This actually looks fun, aside from the Distance Snap errors. Enable DS, move around, have fun. Those sliders though, keep them nearly or as is. Stack some of them, do this and that. Please. This one looks awesome. :)

It's the usual first map. I'm not disappointed, I'm not upset, it's all what I expect. That's not a bad thing. Good luck. :)
Fixed most of that stuff now!
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Metroid
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Easy
01:13:60 (1,2,3,4) - out of spacing.
01:20:80 (2,3,4) - Out of spacing.
01:24:80 (3) - out of spacing, remember to respace upcoming notes to keep them in spacing.
01:29:60 (1,2,3) - out of spacing.
01:32:80 (1) - out of spacing to the last combo
01:37:60 (3) - out of spacing to the slider beforehand.

Normal
Fine to me.

Insane
00:25:60 (1) - not spaced, this should be overlapped by the slider beforehand.
00:39:60 (4) - Not spaced to the next combo.
01:02:80 (7) - not spaced to the slider beforehand.
01:06:00 (7,8,9) - Not spaced.
01:07:20 (11,12,13) - Same as ^.
01:13:60 (1) - Not spaced to the next combo.
01:24:10 (5) - not spaced to the last combo.
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Mashley
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By the other comments in this thread I was expecting something really bad, however I was surprised that this map is actually pretty good, and I couldn't find any technical problems. Don't let them put you down.
tieff
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[Easy]
A don't see any technical problems, just few suggestions. You don't need to do this.
01:16:00 (4) - Clap on end?
01:19:20 (4) - ^
01:22:40 (4) - ^
01:24:80 (3) - ^
01:30:40 (2) - So ronery whistle. =( Or remove or add more.
01:39:200 - Add note.

[Normal]
Cool hitsounds.
00:40:60 (2) - Add clap on start of slider, remove clap from end.
01:03:00 (5) - ^
01:06:20 (2) - ^
01:19:20 (3) - Add whistle on start.
01:39:200 - Note here.

[Insane]
All cool.
01:39:200 - Add note?

Starred.
Mafiamaster
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Couldn't find anything wrong~
Star!
blissfulyoshi
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Easy:
00:41:60 (1) - midway through this spinner, I have really no clue what the spinner is supposed to follow
01:07:20 (5) - align with 4?

Normal:
00:41:60 (1) - midway through this spinner, I have really no clue what the spinner is supposed to follow

Insane:
00:22:40 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - these should all be of equal length, and to me they don't go well with the music
00:28:80 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - " "
00:42:40 (1) - what is the beginning of this spinner supposed to follow?

Most of your difficulties feel like you just placed notes randomly after turning on distance snap. It is pretty boring with no pattern.

Since you have very few technical flaws, Star.
Xgor
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blissfulyoshi wrote:

Most of your difficulties feel like you just placed notes randomly after turning on distance snap. It is pretty boring with no pattern.
I know this map isn't perfect in every way possible....
But it's my first map! :roll: But it's better than my second one.....
cyanberryio
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[Easy]
Raise tick rate.
00:42:40 (1) - End spinner at 00:48:00 with soft whistle sound.

[Normal]
Sounds a bit better with Tick Rate lowered by 1.
00:42:40 (1) - End spinner at 00:48:00 with soft whistle sound.

[Insane]
Lower tick rate?
00:42:40 (1) - End spinner at 00:48:00 with soft whistle sound.
01:26:40 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Do not like at all. Doesn't fit.
01:32:80 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - ^

Only starring cause Easy and Normal were pretty decent and good for slower difficulties.
PandaCath
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[Easy]
Nothing obvious.

[Normal]
01:16:00 (3,4,5) - Looks a little offly spaced.

[Insane]
00:48:400 (x) Why is there nothing here o_o I guess you forgot to put a break here?

Very good map. You get a star!
Pasonia
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I agree, this map has seen some rather good influences. Has James-ism started to permeate the whole good mapping community? X__X

Anyway c'ping savelog here, bolding what is important and removing whatever is inconsequential.

Easy is fine if a bit dull, but meh, we need to take care of our inexperienced players. As they say in the army:
Care for soldiers!

17:53 <Pasonia> : Normal: 00:26:80 (1,2,3)
17:53 <Pasonia> : I don't know about this part, but I was expecting a few repeats

17:53 <Pasonia> : also, what did you use for distance?
17:54 <Pasonia> : there seems to be some rather suspect spacing (not immediately noticable but yea, there is a bit of a gap
17:54 <Pasonia> : difference even right from the first two notes, using beat spacing 0.8x
17:54 <Pasonia> : so I wish you can correct as many of this as possible because it's intermittent all over your map

17:54 <Pasonia> : back to 00:26:80 (1)
17:55 <Pasonia> : I wish you can make this repeat six times while removing 2 and 3
17:55 <Pasonia> : but if you are vehemently against this, you can treat this as optional

17:55 <Pasonia> : I might not always be correct, but I will give out suggestions whenever possible

17:56 <Pasonia> : 01:02:00 (4,5) - given the music at this part
17:56 <Pasonia> : I am quite worried whether this will throw off unsuspecting players
17:56 <Pasonia> : it's actually the same situation as the one in 00:26:80(1)
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18:01 <Pasonia> : Insane @ Xgor
18:02 <Pasonia> : 00:41:60 (10) - newcombo
18:02 <Pasonia> : 01:07:20 (11) - same
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18:02 <Pasonia> : also
18:03 <Pasonia> : it's a personal comment of mine, but
18:03 <Pasonia> : since ALL of your maps utilise less than 1/2 the original mp3
18:03 <Pasonia> : I suggest shortening the beatmap's mp3 to 2 minutes, with a fadeout at 1:55
18:03 <Xgor> : Ok
Xgor
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Just a tiny question!
Does the easy difficulity sounds better with 1 on slider tick rate rather then 2?? :?:
eee
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eee

Xgor wrote:

Just a tiny question!
Does the easy difficulity sounds better with 1 on slider tick rate rather then 2?? :?:
I think it's fine, it can be both, imo

eeemod GO!!!

[Easy]
00:22:40 (1) - finish on first circle of the slider???
00:28:80 (1) - ^???
00:35:20 (1) - I prefer this ending 1/1 later, that's to the next white tick, I think, w/e you call it, end it at the next white tick or just occupy that tick with a circle
00:38:40 (1) - ^ here too, I think it makes the map move faster but stay easy
01:37:60 (3) - one more repeat?

[Normal]
00:22:40 (1) - finish on beginning???
00:28:80 (3) - ^
01:26:40 (1) - ^
01:32:80 (1) - ^
01:36:00 (2) - ^
01:39:200 (x) - something here, circle? slider endpoint?

[Hard]
01:39:200 (x) - something here?

Hitsound modding is not my type, but I tried, so do what you will
also, I prefer the map ending here 01:39:200, if you don't like it, don't do it

Starred, looks like this map has got it's fair share of mods
vytalibus
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Offset: 10 ms. The whole thing sounds a bit rushed originally.
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Andrea
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[Timing]

Offset 10 BPM fine.

[Easy]

Fine.

[Normal]

00:28:80 (3) - New combo.

[Insane]

00:39:60 (4,5,6) - Wrong spacing.

Suggestion : Lower soft section by 2 or 3 ticks.

Starred.
Ryuukun
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Ryuukun
hey.

offset 9.625 and renew the breaks afterwards.


other than that i have no problems with all diffs
sesito71
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:D

[Easy]

00:40:01 (2) - This is nazi mod but, well, if you move this one grid lvl 3 down it looks better (cause you align 2 with start of slider 3) ^^ Anyways it's ok the way it is now :D

01:04:01 (1) - Same as before, maybe you'd want to align this with end of slider 4 (then adjust the next notes) This is optional ;)

01:07:21 (5) - New combo?

[Normal]

01:36:01 (2) - New combo here?

[Insane]

nothing found. I love this diff :D


Star*
minyeob
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Just one thing

[Insane]
01:22:21 (4) - Inconsistent Spacing?
Symbolic
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[Easy]

Use Slider Tick Rate 1.
Most of the times it sounds bad if you let ur sliders end on blue ticks.

00:12:01 (4) - Extend or Shorten this slider 1/4 cause it sounds crap like this :(.
00:15:21 (3) - ^
00:18:41 (3) - Shorten 1/4.
00:28:81 (1) - Extend 1/4.
00:33:61 (3) - Shorten 1/4.
00:35:21 (1) - ^
00:37:61 (3) - ^
00:38:41 (1) - Extend 1/4.


[Normal]

00:37:41 (5) - New combo.
00:38:41 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:39:21 (3) - Add new combo.
00:39:61 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:05:21 (1) - ^
01:07:21 (4) - New combo.
01:38:01 (1) - Remove new combo.


[Insane]

00:11:81 (3) - Spacing issue, fix this.


That's all! Nice, I like the song + map :)
Starred *
XepherX3
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XepherX3
alright

mod

[normal]
01:02:010(1) : one less bounce
01:05:210(1) : "



and that's it

starred

maybe add a vid (suggestion)
Xgor
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x3ns0r wrote:

[normal]
01:02:010(1) : one less bounce No,That's sounds not good at all..........
01:05:210(1) : "
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kino77
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Good job~ :)
Just a little suggestion~

[easy]
Nothing~

[normal]
Turn slider tick rate to 1?
00:41:61(1)-spinner too long?a little boring...

[insane]
Turn slider tick rate to 1?
Turn overall difficulty to lv.7?
00:41:61(1)-same as normal?
01:08:01(1)-to long for insane?
01:38:41(3)-spacing?

Star~
Xgor
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To be honest...
The only reason the spinners are so long is because that is the most fitting on that part :P
Ekaru
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Insane isn't there. As in, it doesn't come with it when I download it.

Also, tickrate of 2 on Easy sounds better to me.

So, do a full resubmit, that should hopefully fix it. I need to play Insane so I can star this sucker.
Xgor
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Ekaru wrote:

Insane isn't there. As in, it doesn't come with it when I download it.

Also, tickrate of 2 on Easy sounds better to me.

So, do a full resubmit, that should hopefully fix it. I need to play Insane so I can star this sucker.
Thats odd.....

Anyway i keep the tick rate because i think my tick rate sounds better.

Anyway try to re-download now :)
Sleep Powder
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[Easy]
Raise Hitsound Volume a bit
00:22:41 (1) - Finish on beginning of slider and clap at the end?
00:28:81 (1) - ^
01:26:41 (1) - Clap on first repeat and end with a finish.

[Normal]
00:26:81 (1) - Whistle on first repeat
00:32:01 (1) - Add a finish at the end of the slider

[Insane]
00:37:61 (8) - Add a Finish?
01:07:21 (1) - Add clap
01:07:41 (2) - Remove Clap
01:14:81 (8) - Add clap
01:16:41 (8) - ^
01:18:01 (8) - ^
01:19:61 (8) - ^
01:21:21 (8) - ^
01:22:81 (8) - ^
01:24:31 (6) - Clap at end of slider
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Xgor
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bmin11 wrote:

I think this map needs difficulty [Hard]. There is a huge difficulty gap btw normal and insane.
True :roll: But i am pretty happy with what i have right now and i have no ideas to a Hard ;)
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Real1
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Cool map, this. The only thing I didn't like was the BG image. It's a bit boring.. Maybe you can spice it up by using some custom combo colours for the hit circles?

Options->Song Setup->Colours->Enable Custom combo colors

Other than that. I see nothing that bothers me.

Have a star!
Xgor
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Real1 wrote:

Cool map, this. The only thing I didn't like was the BG image. It's a bit boring.. Maybe you can spice it up by using some custom combo colours for the hit circles?
It's true that the background is a bit bland but that is because that this picture (and the game-box) is the only fitting picture to the game X and that one was the one i liked the most.
Oh! also about custom colors,The main reason i haven't added custom colors is because i haven't a idea of what colors i should take and also because I'm pretty happy with those colors i have.
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Xgor wrote:

Real1 wrote:

Cool map, this. The only thing I didn't like was the BG image. It's a bit boring.. Maybe you can spice it up by using some custom combo colours for the hit circles?
It's true that the background is a bit bland but that is because that this picture (and the game-box) is the only fitting picture to the game X and that one was the one i liked the most.
Oh! also about custom colors,The main reason i haven't added custom colors is because i haven't a idea of what colors i should take and also because I'm pretty happy with those colors i have.
Although it is true that it is from the game. The song is also played in SSBB so you can use images from there as well. :)
Xgor
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whymeman wrote:

Although it is true that it is from the game. The song is also played in SSBB so you can use images from there as well. :)
I thought about that some time you posted that but i decided to not do it, but i assume that a picture from the Lylat Cruise stage would be the best brawl picture. (Im pretty happy with what i have right now :) )
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Alright :)

And the current background isn't causing playability issues so it should be okay. Not trying to force you to change it.
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SenichiSeung
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I like it a lot ^.^

star~
antony11
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Insane:
01:00:41 (4) - I think this should also be jump put it below 2

Actuall I think your's Insane is hard only, it's just too easy for me =V=

Other difficulty are OK. But I think you should try to make the map more interesting by adding some own rhythm/

Started
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Jarby
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Raise hitsound volume a notch or two.

Insane:

Pretty much all of the sliders are simply straight lines. They would look better if you curved some of them slightly (bezier).
00:15:81 (5) - Remove finish.
00:16:01 (1) - Place finish on slider start.
00:22:21 (6) - Remove finish.
00:22:41 (1) - Place finish on slider start.
00:42:00 (3) - Remove finish from slider end.
00:45:20 (4,5) - Remove finish.
00:46:00 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle.
00:59:21 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing.
01:20:01 (1) - Place finish.
01:25:41 (3) - Remove finish.
01:25:61 (4) - Remove finish from end.
01:26:41 (1) - Place finish on start.
01:30:81 (7) - New combo, remove next combo's marker.
01:32:41 (6) - Remove finish.
01:32:81 (1) - Place finish on slider start.
01:36:01 (1) - Finish on slider start.

Wait, so you give kudosu to a later poster for saying the same thing in a different way? Hmm...
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Xgor
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JarJarJacob wrote:

Raise hitsound volume a notch or two.

Insane:

Pretty much all of the sliders are simply straight lines. They would look better if you curved some of them slightly (bezier).
00:15:81 (5) - Remove finish.
00:16:01 (1) - Place finish on slider start.
00:22:21 (6) - Remove finish.
00:22:41 (1) - Place finish on slider start.
00:42:00 (3) - Remove finish from slider end.
00:45:20 (4,5) - Remove finish.
00:46:00 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle.
00:59:21 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing.
01:20:01 (1) - Place finish.
01:25:41 (3) - Remove finish.
01:25:61 (4) - Remove finish from end.
01:26:41 (1) - Place finish on start.
01:30:81 (7) - New combo, remove next combo's marker.
01:32:41 (6) - Remove finish.
01:32:81 (1) - Place finish on slider start.
01:36:01 (1) - Finish on slider start.
From what you said it sounded more serious then it was....

...First of all i like having a finish on the last beat in a combo ,not on the first
I also like the special spacing at 00:59:21 (it's fun that way :P ) and i like the combos at 1:29:609 - 1:32:409

Yes i also know the sliders are strait line but meh :| i think it's ok as it is

I don't see most of those things as being major....
Jarby
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That spacing isn't rankable, first of all. As for finishes, they would fit the song more like this. Regardless of whether or not it's a major change, it's an improvement.
Lybydose
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The background is somewhat bland.

Insane:

01:00:01 (3,4) - Fix this spacing or make the 4 a new combo to warn about the spacing inconsistency. You probably want to do the ladder since you've expressed interest in keeping it how it is.

Normal:

00:10:01 (2,3) - These randomly have higher spacing than the rest of the map, which seems to adhere to a constant distance spacing throughout.

Easy:

No problems.
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