This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 24. Juni 2013 at 21:19:46

Artist: AU
Title: Rotterdam Cirno
Source: Touhou
Tags: taiko no tatsujin rotter tarmination NicoNicoDouga jiiro jiro zun
BPM: 200
Filesize: 4218kb
Play Time: 01:43
Difficulties Available:

1. Futsuu (4,47 stars, 313 notes)
2. Kantan (2,48 stars, 174 notes)
3. Muzukashii (4,78 stars, 496 notes)
4. Oni (4,83 stars, 581 notes)

Download: AU - Rotterdam Cirno
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A Taiko Jiiro like mapset for rank. Meaning of it: The map has its own beats which fit to the song.
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Cirno-don available!
Kantan 5☆, Futsuu 6☆, Muzukashii 7☆, Oni 8☆
Modder: Kirino Kousaka, taiko_maniac1811, Jerry, HeatKai, (_Gezo_), aabc271, testutaro, Jerry(recheck), HeatKai(iirc), lolcubes

Music: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/nm10139710
AU's website: http://au25.web.fc2.com/otoyugi2.html

star! °˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖°

lol star

Wow, thanks guys!
I even got an official lolstar. Haha

Good luck on ranking this :3
Star \:D/

Ono~! (／・ω・)／ Saki~! (／・ω・)／

Wow! Thank you guys! >w<

Hi

star'd

Cool, thank you for star

Hello, modding because HeatKai requested orz

Things in Red must be fixed.
Things in Purple are highly suggested to be considered.
Others are normal suggestions.





That's all, nice mapset. overall good luck. :3 omg revive pls

Kirino Kousaka wrote:

[General]

1. Use 1.3 as SV, 1.4 feels kinda fast. I feel okay with SV 1.4
2. Under Song Setup, set everything to 5. No, I will keep my standart here.

[Muzukashii]

1. 01:17:590 (1,1) - dk, it has an alternate sound to the next kd.
2. 01:18:790 (1,1) - dk, it has an alternate sound compared to the other notes around.
3. 01:23:290 (1,1) - dk, it has an alternate sound from 01:22:990 (1,1).
4. 01:37:990 (1,1) - kd, same reason as 01:18:790 (1,1).

Ono: I will consider these patterns later.

[Oni]

1. 01:11:990 (1) - d sounds good here.
   Ono: Due to the usage of jiiro style, I will keep it as it is

That's all, nice mapset. overall good luck. :3 omg revive pls

Everything else I applied, thank you really much! You helped me a lot.
It was a coincidence that I revived it after you modded the map. Haha
(Also to HeatKai. Haha)

Hi Ono~
here's the mod req via PM


That's all can find, good luck :3

taiko_maniac1811 wrote:

[Futsuu]

1. 00:36:440 (7) - place it at 00:36:590 Ono: I like it how it is.
2. 00:41:240 (24) - place it at 00:41:390 Ono: I like it how it is.

[Muzukashii]

plays fine ww
but have many notes (oni 580 combo while muzu 516 combo) ._. reduce notes abit?
Ono: Gonna try it later. Maybe this as Oni, so I can make an easier Muzukashii?

[Oni]

1. 00:01:640 - add d? Ono: I like it as it is.
2. 00:32:840 (2,1) - move it to 00:32:690 (if this is done add a d/k at 00:33:140) Ono: Pretty good idea, but kinda changes too much the jiiro way. I will see later about it, since I can't find a solution for this.
3. 0:49:340 (1,1) - d k? Ono: I like it as it is.
4. 00:50:090 (4,1) - ^ Ono: I like it as it is.

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That's all can find, good luck :3

Used most of your suggestions! Hey, you guys are really good in modding. Thank you really much taiko_maniac. ^^

Here's the mod that you requested :3

Most of these are just suggestions, you can ignore some of them if you want to.


Sorry for the short mod, but I couldn't find anything else ><
Good luck! ~

Jerry wrote:

Here's the mod that you requested :3

Most of these are just suggestions, you can ignore some of them if you want to.

9 9 9 9 9

• [Kantan]

1. Perfect imo
   
   [Futsuu]
2. 00:47:990 (1) - don Ono: Keeping the abekobe style.
   
   [Muzukashii]
3. 00:27:740 (1) - don Ono: I like it how it is.
4. 00:31:340 (2) - don (?) ^
5. 00:44:540 (2) - change to kat Ono: Keeping the abekobe style.
   
   [Oni]
6. 00:44:840 (2) - change this to don (?) Ono: I like it how it is.
7. 01:33:890 (1) - change this to k and delete 01:33:990 (2,3)

Ono: Keeping the abekobe style which is connected iwth the part before.

Sorry for the short mod, but I couldn't find anything else ><
Good luck! ~

No problem! Thank you really much for the mod Jerry. It help me. ^^

OnosakiHito
tururururururururururururururur dam dam!

[General]

1. "Touhou" should be at the source, "NicoNicoDouga" should be in the tags

[Kantan]

1. 01:38:990 () - add a circle here to emphasize the beat from the music.
2. Nice diff!

[Futsuu]
this diff is kinda hard, try to fix some pattern and make it easier?

1. 01:32:090 (2) - for me d sounds better here.
2. 01:43:790 (3) - D sounds better here since the ending sounds lower then before.

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:58:040 (2) - change this to d
2. starting from the kiai, I feels like it's so hard to consider it as muzu, feels like oni more to me.
3. 01:43:190 (1,2,1) - make this d k D. the ending is better with D.

[Oni]

1. 00:16:340 (1,2,1,1,1,2,1) - to follow music better i think " k d d k k d k " sounds much better
2. 00:52:790 (1) - I would love to see this as long d stream lol xD but it's fine like this too
3. I think you should add finish here to follow the song got cymbals.
   
   1. 00:58:790 (1) -
   2. 00:59:390 (1) -
   3. 00:59:990 (1) -
   4. 01:00:590 (1) -
   5. 01:01:190 (1) -
   6. 01:01:490 (1) -
   7. 01:01:790 (1) -
   8. 01:02:090 (1) -
4. 01:08:240 () - add a circle here to follow the song and it sounds kinda empty here :/

Kantan and futsuu are nice =w=b
muzu is kinda hard :/
Oni is good but you can make it better tomorrow I'll continue in irc if there's anything I want to say :3

HeatKai wrote:

[General]

1. "Touhou" should be at the source, "NicoNicoDouga" should be in the tags

[Futsuu]
this diff is kinda hard, try to fix some pattern and make it easier?

1. 01:32:090 (2) - for me d sounds better here. Ono: ddkkddkdd would be uneven and might be hard for lower players.

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:58:040 (2) - change this to d Ono: I keep it, due to similiarity of patterns in this section.
2. starting from the kiai, I feels like it's so hard to consider it as muzu, feels like oni more to me. Ono: Maybe I should rename this to Oni and make an easier Muzukashi...?

[Oni]

1. 00:16:340 (1,2,1,1,1,2,1) - to follow music better i think " k d d k k d k " sounds much better Ono: I would rather prefere the previous one, sounds better to me.
2. I think you should add finish here to follow the song got cymbals. Ono: I had the same idea before, but didn'tused it since it was too much in my opinion. The current way emphasizes 01:02:990 (1,1,2) - pretty well, so I would like to keep it as it is.
3. 01:08:240 () - add a circle here to follow the song and it sounds kinda empty here :/ Ono: Orz, may I keep it as this as well? Because I mapped to the cymbials with the dons, which continues at 01:09:590

Kantan and futsuu are nice =w=b
muzu is kinda hard :/
Oni is good but you can make it better tomorrow I'll continue in irc if there's anything I want to say :3

Well, as I said. Maybe I should make a new Muzukashii and rename the current one to Oni...? Also, I made Futsuu a bit easier.
I think we will talk about this tomorrow. Thank you for now HeatKai!

(finally) on it.

[Oni]
00:43:190 (1) - To keep consistency with the previous part, this must be a d.

All the rest is really solid, I told you about Inner Oni (was Oni when I told you) that it was perrrrrfect.

Don't kd if you don't think this is kd-worthy.

As requested by Ono, I'm coming for a Taiko mod ~
After a rather long break, I think I should come back and mod more w
Anyway, let's go :3

Blue~ Critical issues. You must fix this
Purple~ It's better to fix this
Pink~ Suggestions only. Change only if you want to
Grey~ Explanations of my suggestions

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[Inner Oni]

• 01:14:690 ( 2,1,2,3,1 ) - As talked in pm, it depends whether if you really want to stack the notes in slowdown. I personally think not stacking them is a better option :3


I like how you use the hitsounds. They fit really well, esp in the 1st half

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[Oni]

• OD +1 ? Currently it's OD4, which is a bit low for oni

• 01:02:390 ( 1 ) - imo it's better to shorten / delete this slider to accommodate the significant 4 hits from 01:02:990 to 01:03:590. I believe mapping those hits will fit the music much better ( Refer to what you did in inner oni )

• Kiai - Just wondering if you'd add a x0.75 for this section. ( Inner oni has that but oni hasn't )


Diff is also nice. Seems ono is now quite skilled at mapping easier oni xD

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[Muzukashii]

• OD +1 ?

• As mentioned in pm, I'm really concerned about the diff spread between muzu and oni. You know, the current combo is like this :

• Futsuu : 268
  Muzu : 297 (+10.8%)
  Oni : 516 (+73.7%)

I think muzu should be harder ( To ~ 400 combo ) so as to have a better diff spread ?

• 00:10:190 - Add the missing 2 finishes ? imo they're quite significant and should be included in muzu diff

• 00:25:190 ~ 00:32:390 - This section has a much lower note density as compared with previous parts. This could be a good part to add more combos to balance the diff spread :3

• 00:44:390 ~ 00:53:990 - ^, maybe you can use patterns like this to keep the style ( Add dd dd for 1st & 3rd break, and kk kk for 2nd & 4th )

• 00:53:990 ~ 00:58:790 - ^, try sth like this to increase the note density and keep the style at the same time ?

• 01:05:990 ~ 01:14:390 - imo this section's note arrangement doesn't really fit the music well. I'd suggest changing the arrangements of 1/2s. ( PM me if you need help on this )

• Kiai - Seems the kiai is quite simple and makes the combo low. Maybe you can consider adding a little bit 1/3s on 2nd and 3rd loop of kiai ? Example #1, #2

I hope the above suggestions can help balance the diff spread :3

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[Futsuu]

• OD +1 ?


Overall fine, just a bit harder than what I expect in futsuu ( eg 01:01:190 ~ 01:13:190 )

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[Kantan]

• 01:05:990 ~ 01:14:990 - Might be a good idea to reduce the finishes a bit ?

Well, I'll say it's overall ok. Can't really make a mod for this because it seems my suggestions simply make the diff harder and probably not that friendly to new players lol

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Anyway, all diffs are technically fine.
When the diff spread issue has been fixed, this should be ready to go :3

Star and good luck ~

Ohai

Perceived difficulty ratings:
4* Kantan about Many wow bang! Kantan
5* Futsuu a bit more than Kikyoku Futsuu
5* Muzukashii starts off like Rotter Tarmination Muzukashii, but 01:15:590~ is too little to maintain 7* Muzukashii

1. In Futsuu terms 7* Futsuu, even more than Joubutsu 2000 Futsuu or Shimedore 2000 Futsuu. Less than Suuhaa 2000 Futsuu but that's more than OK.
2. To maintain better at Muzukashii try adding more notes at 1/3 to the ending signature change part

7* Oni Juumensou Omote Oni plus speed considerations.

1. In Muzukashii terms 7~8* Muzukashii at similar level as Angel Dream Muzukashii plus a more demanding ending

8* Ura Oni Slightly less demanding than Matryoshka Omote Oni in the last part, only after the signature change is the chart packing in more.

Also kind of surprised 00:34:790 ~ 00:44:390 is not mapped to the background scribble. Good thing though.

I used nearly everything what aabc said, plus some own changes.
Also thank you really much for your star-rating tetsutaro. This helped me really much for considering the diffs spreads!
Now everything should work fine. Waiting for HeatKai.

Also, I have added a Cirno don!

Of course, thank you for checking my set as well Gezo~

HeatKai asked FORCED me to re-check this ._.

I only found these :

• 
  [Muzukashii]

1. 00:15:290 (1) - big don (?)
   
   [Oni]
2. 00:15:290 (1) - how about a big don?
3. 00:44:840 (2) - don (?)

tbh this is already good enough to go for rank, it's more than perfect lol

Here's another star from me ~
Good luck!

This time I didn't changed anything because, the kats and finisher represent the high pitch pretty good.
But thank you for the re-check Jerry! Even though HeatKai forced you. Haha

Thank you for star!

Did I gave you the star for not having crappy Kantan/Futsuu diffs? No?

OK Here you go. Sorry I almost forgot.

tetsutaro Hahaha xD
Thank you really much!

Thank you Katty! :3

fix one thing in kantan and futsuu.
bubble!

Thanks a bunch HeatKai!

[Oni]


[Muzukashii]

1. 00:54:740 (3,4,1,2,3,1,2) - I don't like k k d d d k k here because the melody would imply something like k k d k d d k instead. I am not 100% sure if that would be too hard or not, so as an alternative I would suggest k d d k d d k.
2. 01:05:390 (3,4,5,6) - Hm, well I am okay with these, but I would suggest to remove finishes, just so it's slightly easier. The main part of the map is here and these 4 finishes are quite intense as a lead in into a part like this.
3. 01:11:090 (1,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1) - I would be happy if you could create a break in this pattern, it's kinda long and this is 200 bpm. Think of the poor slow people!
   I would recommend to remove 01:11:840 (1) as that is the most insignificant note.
4. 01:23:590 (1,2,3,4,5) - I believe this is too advanced for a muzukashii. This is 1/3 and kkkkd is already very uncommon in muzukashii diffs anyway, especially on this bpm. Would recommend to remove 01:23:790 (3) or something.

[Futsuu]

1. At least HP4/OD4.
2. 00:10:490 (2) - I would recommend to remove this, because this note doesn't exist in the music. The rhythm here is a bit difficult for futsuu, so just removing this is good enough if you ask me.
3. Let me confirm what people say about those 1/3. I am okay with those but this is still 200 bpm, we have to think of the new guys as well.

[Kantan]
At least HP4/OD4.

Good maps!

lolcubes wrote:

[Oni]


[Muzukashii]

1. 00:54:740 (3,4,1,2,3,1,2) - I don't like k k d d d k k here because the melody would imply something like k k d k d d k instead. I am not 100% sure if that would be too hard or not, so as an alternative I would suggest k d d k d d k. Yeah, as you said. This pattern is problematic in Muzukashii. Also the one I have is a bit hard since we normaly have to use lineal patterns. But ddkkddk or anything else dosen'T fit well at all.
2. 01:05:390 (3,4,5,6) - Hm, well I am okay with these, but I would suggest to remove finishes, just so it's slightly easier. The main part of the map is here and these 4 finishes are quite intense as a lead in into a part like this. Oh, actually I agree.
3. 01:11:090 (1,1,2,3,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,1) - I would be happy if you could create a break in this pattern, it's kinda long and this is 200 bpm. Think of the poor slow people! applied
   I would recommend to remove 01:11:840 (1) as that is the most insignificant note.
4. 01:23:590 (1,2,3,4,5) - I believe this is too advanced for a muzukashii. This is 1/3 and kkkkd is already very uncommon in muzukashii diffs anyway, especially on this bpm. Would recommend to remove 01:23:790 (3) or something.applied

[Futsuu]

1. At least HP4/OD4. done
2. 00:10:490 (2) - I would recommend to remove this, because this note doesn't exist in the music. The rhythm here is a bit difficult for futsuu, so just removing this is good enough if you ask me. Mh, I would rather keep it. 1/3 notes but without the second k it sounds really empty. Also since it is a lineal pattern it should be fine I guess.
3. Let me confirm what people say about those 1/3. I am okay with those but this is still 200 bpm, we have to think of the new guys as well.
   
   Talked in iirc about it.

[Kantan]
At least HP4/OD4. done

Good maps!

Thank you for modding lolcubes!

Doublepost because I can.



More taiko plz.

congratz Ono :3/

yeay congrats \o3o/

omedeto ono :3

congrats Onosakiiiii ヾ(*´∀｀*)ﾉ"

Congrats Ono

gratzz Ono :p

Congrats, Ono! Best taiko mapset so far, I really love it.

grats!!
i remembered the TWC...

gratz!

ohey, congratulation Ono

Thanks to the people who helped me by modding this and special thanks to HeatKai and lolcubes.
Also thank you for your congratualtions guys. Hope you like the mapset.

lolcubes wrote:

More taiko plz.

May your wish be granted. Hehe

Congratulations >w<
/me late

Thank you Jerry. Hehe

Meanwhile Infinite to Nuclear Fusion cries in Graveyard. /runs

congrats

where can i find the song?

Pure luck I saw this comment on the forums. lol

On NicoNicoDouga from the original uploader. He is not active anymore, tho. AU just vanished suddenly.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/user/1092906
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/nm1013971 ... _s1_p1_n43