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SimM
Single tapping or alternate tapping is better in terms of accuracy? I'm an alternate tapper, tend to get tired halfway through the song..
buny
depends if you're a single or alternate tapper

you can't really compare since both require some sort of musical sense
Pettanko
If you get tired while alternating then you sure as hell won't last long if you tried to singletap lol.

As to what is more accurate, it all depends on which method you're more accustomed to (or whichever you practiced more).
Zare
Singletap looks cooler in replays

on >240 BPM
Purple
Mechanical keyboards are very good solutions for poor stamina. In my case, when I bought mine it did increase my BPM by like 20~ but the biggest gain was being able to stream endlessly at close to my max speed.

Anyway, in terms of accuracy I think silvia proved that you could be accurate enough by alternating everything. The problem is that from observance you can tell that full alternating players are not very good at doing big fast jumps, but that might only appear to be the case because there arent that many alternaters around to begin with. Another challenge it looks like they have is rotating fast 1/4 sliders. One thing you can be sure about though is that they are the best when it comes to 0108 style maps. Look at little boots click for example, and white wolf's play of made of fire.
Aqo
What
you got it all wrong

alternating = jumps is easier
alternating = you gonna suck at streams forever

don't alternate. jumps take no skill anyway. if you ever want to get anywhere in this game you have to only singletap all the time.
silmarilen
jumps are easier when alternating? i never knew, i always found singletapping easier for that
buny

silmarilen wrote:

jumps are easier when alternating? i never knew, i always found singletapping easier for that
prob cuz opinion
Aqo

silmarilen wrote:

jumps are easier when alternating? i never knew, i always found singletapping easier for that
It's because you don't alternate a lot maybe so just alternating in itself makes it harder for you?
For somebody who has trained both alternating and singletapping equally jumps are way easier with alternating.
CXu
Nah, jumps are easier with singletapping, lol.

OPINIONS YEAH!
Kanye West

SimM wrote:

Single tapping or alternate tapping is better in terms of accuracy? I'm an alternate tapper, tend to get tired halfway through the song..
Getting tired is a stamina problem, not an alting problem. Just play faster, longer songs.
Zare

buny wrote:

silmarilen wrote:

jumps are easier when alternating? i never knew, i always found singletapping easier for that
prob cuz opinion
don't use this word when Aqo is around.
..


Please.
Big Yikes

CXu wrote:

Nah, jumps are easier with singletapping, lol.

OPINIONS YEAH!
^nuff said
I tried both and single tap is REALLY easier to do crazy high bpm jumps accurately or even without missing.
Too much practicing and grinding to be able to alternate with anywhere near the same accuracy and consistency as in single tap. That is a fact, face it bitches.
Tanzklaue
if you don't plan to play really high bpm maps, you probably don't need to learn to alternate. but alternating always is a useful talent to have, so trying it out won't hurt.

alternating takes longer to learn, but you reach higher speeds faster, while single tapping is easier to learn, but only a few chosen individuals are able to tap really fast and accurate. for most people, 240 BPM 1/2 isn't a problem to singletap and you honestly don't need more, as there are maybe 50-100 maps ranked that would profit from higher tappingspeeds.
Purple
What
you got it all wrong

alternating = jumps is easier
alternating = you gonna suck at streams forever

don't alternate. jumps take no skill anyway. if you ever want to get anywhere in this game you have to only singletap all the time.
Aqo i thought you should have learned already that sarcasm doesnt translate well over text.

Uh.. in case you're serious, I only stated what I have seen from scoreboards. Nothing definite. Theoretically full alternaters should be the best players -provided they have excellent reading skills with all mods- , but noone has proven that yet. So I just assume theres a variable we havent looked at.
Spare
single tap all the way
Tanzklaue

Purple wrote:

What
you got it all wrong

alternating = jumps is easier
alternating = you gonna suck at streams forever

don't alternate. jumps take no skill anyway. if you ever want to get anywhere in this game you have to only singletap all the time.
Aqo i thought you should have learned already that sarcasm doesnt translate well over text.

Uh.. in case you're serious, I only stated what I have seen from scoreboards. Nothing definite. Theoretically full alternaters should be the best players -provided they have excellent reading skills with all mods- , but noone has proven that yet. So I just assume theres a variable we havent looked at.
he is serious.
Purple
tkiller 270 BPM 1/4 singletap all the way
buny
jumps take no skill gggg
Raging Bull
Yeah, how did he single tap 1/4 200bpm?
Purple
Heading into taboo/censorship territory now. Stick to topic before thread/post deletion.

To OP: If you have a tablet, you may also consider trying Tap + K2. It is very hard to do but the result would be an speed advantage over almost everyone else in the game, mainly because wrist and arm movement is always faster than finger movement.
buny

Raging Bull wrote:

Yeah, how did he single tap 1/4 200bpm?
vibrate which is highly unlikely
Topic Starter
SimM
I have a weak heart thats why lol.. Keep getting out of breath!! >:(
buny
running out of breath by moving 2 fingers?
Jinxy
And I thought I had a craptastic stamina

I was going to say alternate is less stamina since it's easier to move fingers at half the speed as singletap, but reading the OP, I don't know anymore.

Maybe do some cardio or something
Topic Starter
SimM

buny wrote:

running out of breath by moving 2 fingers?
Yeah!! Haha
Winshley
Single-tapping on jumps is pretty accurate, but you might struggle on single-tapping high BPMs (depending on your single-tap limit) in which alternating is better for that. The problem with alternating is that you might not be as accurate as single-tapping.

Just my opinion...
loldcraft
Try single tapping on one finger, switching to the other when your finger gets tired. also, try not to press so hard and relax your fingers. Many times i get tired because i'm tapping too hard / my muscles are too tense.
Zare
Honestly, I think choosing to alternate on BPMs you can't singletap is like really lame.
I don't mean to offend anyone, but I decided for myself that alternating because of too high speed would be equal to giving up.
Aqo

Zarerion wrote:

Honestly, I think choosing to alternate on BPMs you can't singletap is like really lame.
I don't mean to offend anyone, but I decided for myself that alternating because of too high speed would be equal to giving up.
Ok. Play Cider with singletap.
Kanye West

Zarerion wrote:

Honestly, I think choosing to alternate on BPMs you can't singletap is like really lame.
I don't mean to offend anyone, but I decided for myself that alternating because of too high speed would be equal to giving up.
what

why does it matter as long as you're hitting the circles
Jagermeiser
I thought all the pros alternated, like, no matter what kind of patterns they played ;_;

meh, I'm having troubles alternating between singletapping and alternating, so I'll just stick to alternating
Zare

Aqo wrote:

Zarerion wrote:

Honestly, I think choosing to alternate on BPMs you can't singletap is like really lame.
I don't mean to offend anyone, but I decided for myself that alternating because of too high speed would be equal to giving up.
Ok. Play Cider with singletap.
That's exactly what I'm practicing.

Kanye West wrote:

why does it matter as long as you're hitting the circles
Alternating simply doesn't satisfy me. It feels like I'm cheating. Dunno why.
d777b
It is all opinion really. I come from a background in rudimental drumming background, and alternating seems best for me (it is what the rhythms "feel like" in my mind). I will double tap stacked notes however, as I interpret them as doubles (diddles), also, some patterns seem like they should be played like certain rudiments (paradiddles for example). I think to someone without much drumming background, it would be much easier to play eighth note streams and jumps as single taps because you don't have to do any extra mental processing to figure out what finger you will wind up on ect. Also, I have noticed that mechanically, my streams were not even naturally (my middle finger actuates too soon). So I had to adjust that. If you single tap, you don't have to adjust as much.

That being said, I have been fooling around with single tapping things, It seems stressful to me, but perhaps better on jumps.

TL;DR -It is all opinion really. Alternating and rudimental play makes sense to me, but might be easier to learn single tapping from scratch.
Hika
I personally suggest you single tap. I single tap myself because I find alternating so much of a challenge, though it's more accurate. Single tapping can get you exhausted & will probably mess up your fingers but that's just coming from personal experiences. I think alternating is better if you're not that great at single tapping & single tapping is better if you're a fast player overall.

Also, Cider is very good for single tapping warm up (or at least I think so). Challenging but it's worth it. single tapping > alternating, imo.
JAKACHAN
Single tap... When you can single tap 320 bpm and everyone is all like "AMG DAT IS IMPUZIBLE" it's pretty funny.

Aqo wrote:

Ok. Play Cider with singletap.
I already have...

http://puu.sh/229OZ

And this was a not even warmed up attempt with the BG lewl...
[Luanny]
alternating > all

Zarerion wrote:

don't use this word when Aqo is around.
..


Please.
also this
Jenny
alternate 105BPM 1/4 SS, OMG IT IMPOSSIBRA SLOW OMG HOW CAN PLAY DIS

also, OMG JAKA PLAYED A SINGLE MAP WITH BG ON OMG NOOB OMG QUIT aaaaaaaaaahhh

(i play single, alternate, m/o, 4k, 3k, M1-K2 in consistent change to however i feel the song is going xP)
Almost

Aqo wrote:

Zarerion wrote:

Honestly, I think choosing to alternate on BPMs you can't singletap is like really lame.
I don't mean to offend anyone, but I decided for myself that alternating because of too high speed would be equal to giving up.
Ok. Play Cider with singletap.
145 bpm 1/4s are fast, but it's not that hard to achieve if you practice single tapping speed.
Aqo
I love 2013.

There are no longer "140bpm streams"
There is only "280bpm jumps"
Zare

Aqo wrote:

I love 2013.

There are no longer "140bpm streams"
There is only "280bpm jumps"
Well, yes. The players improve. And they will do that forever. Stuff that seemed impossible a few years ago is now child's play for the pros.
Which is why we should start to change our mapping as well. Pro's are getting bored lately, so they DT Maps like Wahrheit, they need new challenges.
Aqo

Zarerion wrote:

Pros are getting bored lately, so they DT Maps like Wahrheit
You don't need to be pro to play DT Wahrheit it's easy :v
Kanye West

Aqo wrote:

Zarerion wrote:

Pros are getting bored lately, so they DT Maps like Wahrheit
You don't need to be pro to play DT Wahrheit it's easy :v
if it's so easy, then why haven't you FC'd
kriers
well literally speaking, just playing DT Wahreit is something anyone can do. Just apply DT mod, start beatmap and well... good luck from there!
Zare

Aqo wrote:

Zarerion wrote:

Pros are getting bored lately, so they DT Maps like Wahrheit
You don't need to be pro to play DT Wahrheit it's easy :v
Don't act stupid. Something that has only been FC'd by one person (and that person being Cookiezi) is not "easy".
You know that, and you do not need to start another discussion about that now.
buny

kriers wrote:

well literally speaking, just playing DT Wahreit is something anyone can do. Just apply DT mod, start beatmap and well... good luck from there!
Forgot that no fail mod too
Aqo

Zarerion wrote:

Aqo wrote:

You don't need to be pro to play DT Wahrheit it's easy :v
Don't act stupid. Something that has only been FC'd by one person (and that person being Cookiezi) is not "easy".
What I meant is that you're not bringing up a good example. There are harder maps that people play now. WahrheitDT is relatively easy compared to many other things "bored pros" play now.
FrzR
I actually Singletap with jumps. and Sometimes in triple notes. My fingers dont cope up well with streams. XD
Purple

Zarerion wrote:

Which is why we should start to change our mapping as well. Pro's are getting bored lately, so they DT Maps like Wahrheit, they need new challenges.
Wait. Wait what? If Wahrheit DT is too boringly easy, then the next step would be DTing a map harder than Wahrheit.
Winshley

Purple wrote:

Zarerion wrote:

Which is why we should start to change our mapping as well. Pro's are getting bored lately, so they DT Maps like Wahrheit, they need new challenges.
Wait. Wait what? If Wahrheit DT is too boringly easy, then the next step would be DTing a map harder than Wahrheit.
Inb4 FREEDOM DIVE [FOUR DIMENSIONS] with DT. (333.33 BPM streams~ /me whistles)
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