Makan1 wrote:

I hope this can get re-qualified again :>

Makan1 wrote:

I hope this can get re-qualified again :>

E n d wrote:

Just gonna say this beatmap is a ton of fun, sad to see it in the graveyard :c

DaniilLillifag wrote:

are you want to revive it again? this map is so good and i do not want that 4-year-old work was in vain

Kayne wrote:

DaniilLillifag wrote:

are you want to revive it again? this map is so good and i do not want that 4-year-old work was in vain

well when the ranking system will stop sucking so hard i will revive this maybe?

Mazzerin wrote:

TIMING
put in another diff, feel free to ignore the 1/6 and other shenanigans like weird doubles I guess, this is gonna be really hard to make without it being overly technical considering the rest of the map follows obvious rhythm with 1/4 and 1/2 and has no bpm changes.

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Danii wrote:

yo!!! mod as promised

00:24:796 (4,2) - maybe just stack? this overlap looks bad this was supposed to be a stack lol (btw I also fixed other stacks on other parts, thanks

00:43:096 (5,6) - i understand your idea but i really want to emphasize sounds in this notes, make here another kickslider uh nah, i prefer my idea

00:51:496 (2,3) - make here one repeat kickslider to emphasize sounds via streams just added a note

03:07:021 - add note here 1) contrast with two tiples 03:04:246 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 2) emphasize strong durm here okay nice idea

03:17:596 (1,2) - hmm i understank your idea that you dont want make here streams but i still want to emphasize drums here, using two repeat kicksliders for example your idea isnt bad but i mapped vocal here, so i prefer my antijumps

03:32:296 (10,11,12,13) - make here repeat to emphasize vocal nah Im not following vocals here

05:50:296 (13,14,15,16) - 05:51:496 (13,14,15,16) - make here repeats, this part stiil is not so intense for 32 notes stream well I prefer the 32 notes stream, you can see it as a warmup for the final deathstream (?)

06:52:192 - make here same as in 06:51:322 (4,5) - (just copy it), for contrast

07:00:234 (1) - extend this repeat to blue tick

07:01:985 (1) - ^ mazzerin modded the rhythm here, so I think its fine without these mods

good luck guys

RikiH_ wrote:

bns move your ass thx

Danii wrote:

RikiH_ wrote:

bns move your ass thx

Stupendo92 wrote:

I think AR 9,5 will be good. I like the map in general

1. 00:14:896 until 00:31:396 - I feel like you inverted the spacing in this part, especially sliders like 00:14:896 (1,2) -. If I were you I would shorten their distance. The guitar at 00:15:196 (2) - plays it low in a way, as compared to 00:14:896 (1) - it sounds that the guitarist puts more intensity to that note. So I think a shorter distance fits this melody. Whilst a melody like 00:16:396 (4,5) - could have a bigger distance than 00:16:096 (3,4) -, since (5) stands on a snare with the guitar beat, which are heard as a big sound to me, so a bigger spacing would emphasize that part. In addition to that, you can turn the sliders into two hitcircles instead, to truly get that feeling of emphasis.
2. 03:07:396 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why do you suddenly stop the rhythm with pauses? I don't think this is not fitting well when the music still stays at a same tone and majority for this part is filled with triplets and sliders. A rhythm like this: http://i.imgur.com/qcNimBo.png should be enough and fitting if you don't want a higher density.
3. 03:31:696 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - This shouldn't be a stream if the drum beats are all on the red and white ticks with the exception of 03:31:771 -.
4. 04:32:596 - Probably minor, but the spacing of the stream got smaller if you compare the other streams in the kiai part.

1. 01:20:446 (7) - I don't see what supports the big distance between 01:20:296 (6,7) -. Probably I would move (7) around x:336 y:179 to shorten the spacing.

1. 01:35:296 (4,5,6) - Maybe the spacing between (4,5) could be higher than (5,6), because of the snare on (5). The spacing between (5,6) didn't make sense if (6) hits a lower drum sound. The vocal doesn't also suggest this.
2. 01:45:196 (3,4,5) - Above is applicable to this.
3. 02:00:496 - Maybe you can instead replace this to a 1/4 repeat slider that ends on 02:00:721 - to emphasize the next stream part. Currently the kickslider on 02:00:646 - wasn't feeling right to me, as if it was sudden.
4. 06:26:761 (2,3,1) - Might want to do manual stacking because it doesn't look pretty in gameplay.
5. 06:28:065 (1,2) - Shortening this distance while increasing the spacing of 06:28:500 (2,1) - will accentuate the crash sound on 06:28:934 -.

1. 04:01:396 until 04:03:196 - Maybe not a big deal, but the spacing got shorter, as compared to 03:56:596 and 03:58:996 -, and I don't see you reuse the same small distance anywhere in the streams part.
2. 05:03:796 (1,2,3) - The spacing gets inconsistent here, and it doesn't look neat with the streams. I suggest you re-arrange them.

sheela wrote:

Surprise mod!

00:14:596 - Two points have conflicting volume settings, so I guess red timing point should have 80% too.

[Kayne]

1. 00:14:896 until 00:31:396 - I feel like you inverted the spacing in this part, especially sliders like 00:14:896 (1,2) -. If I were you I would shorten their distance. The guitar at 00:15:196 (2) - plays it low in a way, as compared to 00:14:896 (1) - it sounds that the guitarist puts more intensity to that note. So I think a shorter distance fits this melody. Whilst a melody like 00:16:396 (4,5) - could have a bigger distance than 00:16:096 (3,4) -, since (5) stands on a snare with the guitar beat, which are heard as a big sound to me, so a bigger spacing would emphasize that part. In addition to that, you can turn the sliders into two hitcircles instead, to truly get that feeling of emphasis.
2. 03:07:396 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why do you suddenly stop the rhythm with pauses? I don't think this is not fitting well when the music still stays at a same tone and majority for this part is filled with triplets and sliders. A rhythm like this: http://i.imgur.com/qcNimBo.png should be enough and fitting if you don't want a higher density.
3. 03:31:696 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - This shouldn't be a stream if the drum beats are all on the red and white ticks with the exception of 03:31:771 -.
4. 04:32:596 - Probably minor, but the spacing of the stream got smaller if you compare the other streams in the kiai part.

[RikiH_]

1. 01:20:446 (7) - I don't see what supports the big distance between 01:20:296 (6,7) -. Probably I would move (7) around x:336 y:179 to shorten the spacing.

[-kevincela-]

1. 01:35:296 (4,5,6) - Maybe the spacing between (4,5) could be higher than (5,6), because of the snare on (5). The spacing between (5,6) didn't make sense if (6) hits a lower drum sound. The vocal doesn't also suggest this.
2. 01:45:196 (3,4,5) - Above is applicable to this.
3. 02:00:496 - Maybe you can instead replace this to a 1/4 repeat slider that ends on 02:00:721 - to emphasize the next stream part. Currently the kickslider on 02:00:646 - wasn't feeling right to me, as if it was sudden.
4. 06:26:761 (2,3,1) - Might want to do manual stacking because it doesn't look pretty in gameplay.
5. 06:28:065 (1,2) - Shortening this distance while increasing the spacing of 06:28:500 (2,1) - will accentuate the crash sound on 06:28:934 -.

[Roxas]

1. 04:01:396 until 04:03:196 - Maybe not a big deal, but the spacing got shorter, as compared to 03:56:596 and 03:58:996 -, and I don't see you reuse the same small distance anywhere in the streams part.
2. 05:03:796 (1,2,3) - The spacing gets inconsistent here, and it doesn't look neat with the streams. I suggest you re-arrange them.

That's quite it I guess. Feel free to call me back!

1. 00:14:596 - The timing points with conflicting settings are still not fixed; it's against the Ranking Criteria when overlapping timing/inherited points have different volume and/or hitsound settings. Therefore in your case, the red timing points should have a volume of 70% instead to match with the green timing point.
2. 00:28:396 (2) - Perhaps the clap hitsound on the head was not intentional.
3. 03:07:846 (3,4) - Like in the first part of the map, this spacing should be bigger than 03:07:546 (2,3) - because of the drum on 03:07:996 -.

sheela wrote:

1. 00:14:596 - The timing points with conflicting settings are still not fixed; it's against the Ranking Criteria when overlapping timing/inherited points have different volume and/or hitsound settings. Therefore in your case, the red timing points should have a volume of 70% instead to match with the green timing point.
2. 00:28:396 (2) - Perhaps the clap hitsound on the head was not intentional.
3. 03:07:846 (3,4) - Like in the first part of the map, this spacing should be bigger than 03:07:546 (2,3) - because of the drum on 03:07:996 -.

Call me back!

sheela wrote:

All righty. The map still looks fine, so here's my bubble!

Good luck!

Lasse wrote:

kevin
01:50:596 (5) -seperating this at 01:50:896 - would make way more sense with drum pattern to me
02:10:696 (5,1) - seems better if you did what you did for 02:09:496 (5,1) - spacing wise, or at least have some consistency cause it's pretty much the same thing
06:22:848 (1,2) - 06:27:087 (3) - 06:30:238 (2,3,4,5) - I'm really unsure about these and lots of other 1/4 you mapped in in this part, they sound quite off for guitar and srums are only 1/2 on many spots
I mean some of them seem okay as simplification but sometimes they just seem so wrong

kayne
mind explaining why you comboed the intro like this instead of putting them on the start of each measure, that seem way more fitting with what the song does
and then on 00:33:796 (1) - it suddenly changes to a way more reasonable one even though the background rhythm is the same?
00:16:696 (3,4,5) - 00:19:096 (3,4,5) - and wherever else you did those stacked 1/2 after sliders in the intro: why? I don't think they work very well with the emphasis of the song
00:38:596 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - enable stacking/press f5, it looks stupid like this, manually move 00:39:196 (3,4,5) - 8x8 pixels down/right
00:52:996 (1,2) - so clumped, makes it kinda annyoing to read and also looks bad to me. maybe something like http://i.imgur.com/szFKeih.jpg ?
03:10:696 (5) - with all your curved sliders around here this just looks out of place considering it maps the same things
03:11:896 (3) - starting the stream from here would be nice, still follows the drums and nicely accentuates the held vocal
06:00:196 (1,2,1,2) - can you make this a bit less clumped?
06:05:896 (13) - - this turn felt way too harsh on a pretty "normal" beat in comparison to others, how about going with something like http://i.imgur.com/ZeXy2pP.jpg (very unpolished example) ?
06:39:368 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - same as kevin's 1/4 things here
also things like 07:01:985 (1) - where it sounds more like http://i.imgur.com/KaAr5YH.jpg or whatever but that would play like shit lol
07:02:423 (3) - sounds kinda early to me

roxas
03:41:389 (1) - 03:44:089 (1) - 03:50:989 (1) - not sure about these, kinda seems like it should start 1/16 later? (on the next 1/8 tick)
03:53:671 ( 1) - and this is snapped differently?
04:52:996 (5) - shouldn't this have nc? seems like you nc at least once every measure for this part
04:54:496 (5,6) - why do you suddenly have to use a 4x repeat and start the stream from the blue tick, it doesn't really play well and the guitar seems to change on 04:54:796 - anyways
05:06:196 - http://i.imgur.com/VBc7koL.jpg would still work well with the guitar but let players start the stream on an actually strong sound and makes it more consistent with other streams

rikih
01:17:596 (5) - no idea if you care, but this looks stupid without sliderends, how about changing the end a bit http://i.imgur.com/AVjvnvE.jpg ? though personally I think http://i.imgur.com/0KuBvBc.jpg would look nicer and make a better visual transition to the next object
01:28:996 (1,2) - this is the most triggering intentional overlap I've seen in a while lol
01:31:996 (9) - vocals change here, so having the stream change here instead of 01:32:296 (13) - would make more sense
05:23:446 (4,5) - sudden spacing drop here didn't play well at all with such an angle, could make it more acute or use more similar/same spacing

biggest issue to me is the ending cause I'm really unsure about the rhythms as stated above

Pentori wrote:

popping for now because of missing hitsounds and the misplaced beats at 01:59:896 (3,1,2)

heres what we talked about

00:32 Pentori: 01:45:796 - 01:46:396 - should have claps right?
00:33 Kayne: yes
00:33 Kayne: fucking kevin
00:34 Kayne: 06:01:396 (1,5) - here too
00:34 Kayne: lasse god of rechecking
00:35 Pentori: lul
00:35 Kayne: 02:00:496 (5) -
00:35 Pentori: 01:59:896 (3,1) -
00:35 Pentori: this cant be right..
00:36 Kayne: it is actually
00:36 Kayne: :<
00:36 Kayne: we hitsounded all streams like this
00:36 Kayne: 05:49:096 (4,1) -
00:36 Pentori: the spacing?
00:36 Pentori: 01:59:896 (3,1,2) -
00:36 Kayne: oh spacing?
00:37 Kayne: oh its placed
00:37 Kayne: on blue tick
00:37 Kayne: wha
00:37 Kayne: tt
00:37 Kayne: the fuck
00:37 Kayne: fixed
00:37 Pentori: ..
00:37 Pentori: cool
00:37 Kayne: i don't know if I have to blame myself for not rechecking
00:37 Kayne: kevin for fixing without paying any attention
00:37 Kayne: or lasse for giving bubble without fixing these
00:37 Kayne: lol
00:37 Pentori: ill just
00:38 Pentori: iron out all the weird shit
00:38 Pentori: 00:28:696 - clap
00:38 Kayne: fixd
00:39 Pentori: 00:33:796 - the volume decrease doesn't really make sense..
00:39 Pentori: the music is picks up here right?
00:39 Kayne: its all mapped at 50% volume
00:39 Kayne: so i think that
00:39 Kayne: I should fix the first one
00:39 Kayne: that is 70%
00:39 Kayne: or nope?
00:39 Pentori: well sure
00:40 Pentori: as long as the volume doesnt decrease
00:40 Pentori: when the music picks up
00:40 Kayne: okay lol
00:40 Kayne: fixed
00:41 Pentori: thumbs.db is unused
00:42 Kayne: deleted
00:43 Pentori: 01:43:396 (1,2) - according to kevin's nc patterns the nc's should be swapped here
00:43 Pentori: see 01:38:596 (9,1) - 01:36:196 (8,1) - as examples
00:44 Kayne: fixed
00:44 Kayne: 01:45:796 (1,2) -
00:44 Pentori: yes
00:44 Pentori: and the one on 01:46:996 (1) - will get removed
00:45 Pentori: 01:44:596 (1) - same
00:45 Kayne: yes yes
00:45 Kayne: already did
00:45 Pentori: good
00:46 Kayne: wait but now
00:46 Kayne: I fix all these things
00:46 Kayne: i upload
00:46 Kayne: and i'll need the 2 bubbles again, right?
00:47 Pentori: yea
00:47 Kayne: so I have to find the bns that bubbled again
00:47 Kayne: okay c:
00:48 Pentori: 02:59:596 (3,4,5,6,1) - can u explain the claps here
00:48 Pentori: its like u started following vocals then gave up half way
00:49 Pentori: probably would be better if you just kept it every 2nd beat
00:49 Kayne: its just an error
00:49 Kayne: lol fixed
00:49 Pentori: ok
00:49 Pentori: 03:05:596 (3,6) - and maybe u should get rid of the vocal clap hitsounding around here
00:50 Pentori: 03:07:996 (4,1) - overlap could be a lot better if u blanket
00:50 Pentori: 03:15:871 (1) - kind of a weird spot to use a spinner since the drums keep going but thats just my opinion
00:51 Kayne: fixed
00:52 Kayne: yeah I decided to follow the vocals and never fixed it
00:52 Kayne: I like it idk why
00:52 Pentori: 03:33:946 - remove clap
00:52 Kayne: if its not a big problem to you i'd prefer to keep it
00:52 Pentori: yeah its fine
00:54 Pentori: hm i find this section feels kinda bland
00:54 Pentori: 03:20:896 (2) - for example this
00:55 Pentori: 03:24:946 (5) - and here
00:55 Kayne: what does bland means?
00:55 Kayne: mean*
00:55 Pentori: the reverse lands on a really strong beat
00:55 Pentori: umm bland means
00:55 Pentori: lacking features
00:55 Kayne: the first reverse sounds fine to me
00:55 Kayne: but the 2nd one yeah
00:55 Kayne: right
00:56 Pentori: and in the section after that
00:56 Pentori: if you listen to the music, you'll notice theres a triplet on each of the first white ticks
00:56 Pentori: 03:28:096 - 03:29:296 - 03:30:496 -
00:57 Kayne: ...
00:57 Kayne: osu crashed
00:57 Kayne: without saving changes
00:57 Pentori: ...
00:57 Kayne: ....
00:57 Kayne: ty peppy
00:57 Pentori: dont bother re fixing it yet
00:57 Pentori: lets finish it
00:57 Kayne: can you give me like
00:57 Pentori: then you can fix
00:57 Kayne: oh
00:57 Kayne: okay
00:58 Pentori: and i'll bubble when you're done
00:58 Pentori: ok so
00:58 Kayne: okay
00:58 Pentori: i was talking about this section 03:27:796 -
00:58 Pentori: the 2nd white tick of every measure has a triplet
00:58 Pentori: 03:28:096 - 03:29:296 - 03:30:496 -
00:59 Pentori: so i think its better to use that triplet
00:59 Pentori: instead of trying to make your own like 03:28:696 (3,4,5) -
01:00 Pentori: 03:31:696 (2,3,4) - you did this well later on with stuff like this 03:32:896 (2) - 03:34:096 (2,3,4) -
01:00 Pentori: so maybe u can make it more consistent
01:00 Pentori: so it follows music better
01:02 Kayne: wait
01:02 Kayne: so can I like
01:02 Kayne: 03:29:596 (3,4) - put a triplet here
01:02 Kayne: 03:30:046 (5,6,1) - instead of here
01:03 Pentori: but theres no triplet in the music
01:03 Pentori: y use that one when there are so many others
01:03 Pentori: like yeah you can
01:03 Kayne: you said that i can make it more consistent
01:04 Kayne: so triplet are all on 2nd or 4th white tick
01:04 Kayne: except the one that i wanted to change
01:04 Kayne: (?)
01:04 Pentori: the triplets are actually only on the 2nd ticks
01:04 Kayne: okay so
01:05 Kayne: ill fix it and put them on 2nd ticks
01:05 Pentori: ok
01:08 Pentori: 04:18:346 - remove the guitar-clap hitsounding if u want
01:08 Pentori: since u didnt do it elsewhere
01:09 Pentori: 04:34:696 (4) - maybe extend this to the blue tick? since its the same held sound as stuff like 04:32:296 (5) -
01:09 Pentori: 04:44:296 (2) - ^
01:09 Pentori: 04:45:496 - clap
01:12 Pentori: 05:55:996 (3,4,5) - pretty weird triplet
01:12 Kayne: im fixing stuff
01:12 Kayne: have to eat right now
01:12 Kayne: keep writing
01:12 Kayne: ill be back in 15 mins I think
01:12 Pentori: yea ill just spit stuff out and post it
01:12 Kayne: ~ :3
01:14 Pentori: 07:03:299 - doesnt need clap

sheela wrote:

Approved!

Will this pass the qualification phase after four years?

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MrSergio wrote:

"Non trovo nessuno" -Kayne, 2016