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Louis Cyphre
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 10 декабря 2012 г. at 13:46:15

Artist: Chopin
Title: Revolutionary Etude
Source: Catherine
Tags: Frederic Francois Classical Classic Fryderyk Franciszek Szopen Nicolas piano fortepiano grand Franz Ferencz ritter von liszt Ludwig van Beethoven Bombardment of Warsaw son ami Virtuoso Atlus shin megami tensei SMT PS3 Playstation Xbox 360 Deep Silver horror Vincent Brookes Kyasarin insento Burukkusu Kenichi Tsuchiya Atsushi Kitajoh Pablo de Sarasate Shoji Meguro
BPM: 145
Filesize: 2684kb
Play Time: 01:18
Difficulties Available:
  1. Allegro (4,47 stars, 114 notes)
  2. Lento (1,07 stars, 60 notes)
  3. Moderato (2,93 stars, 95 notes)
  4. Prestissimo (5 stars, 419 notes)
  5. Presto (4,98 stars, 245 notes)
Download: Chopin - Revolutionary Etude
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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About this piece:


Op 10. No 12. Revolutionary Etude (1831)
"All this has caused me much pain. Who could have foreseen it!"
Wiki
Lena
Long time no see.
DaxMasterix
Okay let's mod this!"

General:

  1. C/Katherine?...
  2. AIBat says you have a lot of Unsnapped inherited (green) timing points... Try use the program and fix that manually.
Lento:
  1. 00:52:289 (2) - Why a clap in the end of the Slider?.. Breaks all the ''HitsoundForm'' Try remove it.
Moderato:
  1. 00:25:806 (3) - This slider in this position looks ugly for me :c.. move the last SliderPoint to x:240|y:76 [Grid lvl: 4] And remove the Whistle of the Begin.
  2. 00:36:979 (4) - Ohno.. This circle looks out.. Try move it to x:116|y:52 [Grid lvl: 4]
  3. 00:43:392 (1) - Remove Whistle.
  4. 01:01:392 (1) - Move this slider to x:188|y:312 [Grid lvl: 4]
  5. 01:17:944 (1,2,3,4) - This end Looks strange.. I don't have any Suggestion in this Moment but try change it.
Allegro:
  1. 00:01:185 (1) - Wut.. Lucifer Sliders.. Move the first SliderPoint one Grid to the right [Grid lvl: 4] And move all the slider 1 grid down [Grid lvl: 4]
Presto:
  1. 00:13:185 (2,3) - These sliders aren't in the ''Perfect'' same place of the Previous notes 00:12:151 (2,3) Sorry for nazi xD
  2. 00:15:047 (4) - Move this Slider to x:200|y:324 [Grid lvl: 4]
  3. 00:17:013 (6) - This is so.. hard to learn.. Imo..
Prestissimo:
  1. Monster.
  2. OD-1
Ok that is all! Very nice beatmap.. And very nice song.. I hope you will rank this. In the next two weeks..
Good luck! :)
Shor mod.. Wonderful Map =w=...
-Neipezi
Hi~ Kin's Modding Quest Team~

[General]
Kiai Time 00:17:530 - 00:30:772 - try to specify what about?

[Moderato]
00:11:323 (2) - Repeat 00:11:737 - Delete, move place?
00:11:323 (2) - Combo add? (When you use the above content.)
01:04:703 (2) - ^

[Allegro]
pass..

[Presto]
00:40:703 (1) - Seems whistle sounds too far. (vol. + 5%?)
01:14:013 (1) - whistle add?

[Prestissimo]
00:07:806 (1,2,3) - spaceing 1.7x?
00:08:220 (1,2,3) - spaceing 1.6x?
00:08:634 (1,2,3) - spaceing 1.5x?
01:14:013 (1,2,3) - spaceing 1.6x?
01:14:427 (1,2,3) - spaceing 1.5x?
Very little about reduces boneunge interval?
wow overmapping.. :o

I'm sorry.Your map, the map is too perfect.
Advice so I could not do that. :cry:
(Ranked hope :lol: )
Deni



General

Hi M4M ! (^∇^)

Maybe explain in your first post what kind of difficulty Allegro, Lento.. (Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane...) is.

You have a lot of unsnapped timing points.

[Generated with AiBat]

[Difficulty: Allegro]
Snapping:
00:22:392 (4) - Unsnapped slider (end).

Unsnapped inherited (green) timing point(s) at:
00:01:366
00:01:418
00:14:608
00:14:763
00:15:332
00:17:918
00:18:073
00:18:642
00:21:228
00:21:383
00:21:952
00:29:120
00:31:160
00:31:315
00:31:884
00:34:469
00:34:624
00:34:908
00:35:193
00:37:779
00:37:934
00:38:063
00:38:218
00:38:503
00:47:349
00:49:004
00:50:660
00:52:315
01:00:591
01:03:901


[Difficulty: Lento]
Snapping:

Unsnapped inherited (green) timing point(s) at:
00:14:608
00:14:763
00:15:332
00:17:918
00:18:073
00:18:642
00:21:228
00:21:383
00:21:952
00:29:120
00:31:160
00:31:315
00:31:884
00:34:469
00:34:624
00:34:908
00:35:193
00:37:779
00:37:934
00:38:063
00:38:218
00:38:503
00:47:349
00:49:004
00:50:660
00:52:315
00:53:970
01:00:591
01:03:901


[Difficulty: Moderato]
Snapping:

Unsnapped inherited (green) timing point(s) at:
00:14:608
00:14:763
00:15:332
00:17:918
00:18:073
00:18:642
00:21:228
00:21:383
00:21:952
00:29:120
00:31:160
00:31:315
00:31:884
00:34:469
00:34:624
00:34:908
00:35:193
00:37:779
00:37:934
00:38:063
00:38:218
00:38:503
00:47:349
00:49:004
00:50:660
00:52:315
00:52:720
00:53:970
01:00:591
01:03:901


[Difficulty: Prestissimo]
Snapping:
00:01:392 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:01:806 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:02:220 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:02:634 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:03:047 (4) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:04:703 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:05:116 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:05:530 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:05:944 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).

Unsnapped inherited (green) timing point(s) at:
00:14:608
00:14:763
00:15:332
00:17:918
00:18:073
00:18:642
00:21:228
00:21:383
00:21:952
00:29:120
00:31:160
00:31:315
00:31:884
00:34:469
00:34:624
00:34:908
00:35:193
00:37:779
00:37:934
00:38:063
00:38:218
00:38:503
00:47:349
00:49:004
00:50:660
00:52:315
01:00:591
01:03:901


[Difficulty: Presto]
Snapping:

Unsnapped inherited (green) timing point(s) at:
00:14:608
00:14:763
00:15:332
00:17:918
00:18:073
00:18:642
00:21:228
00:21:383
00:21:952
00:29:120
00:31:160
00:31:315
00:31:884
00:34:469
00:34:624
00:34:908
00:35:193
00:37:779
00:37:934
00:38:063
00:38:218
00:38:503
00:47:349
00:48:177
00:49:004
00:50:660
00:52:315
00:53:142
00:53:970
01:00:591
01:03:901

Lento

00:40:703 (1) - I really don't like this slider, it looks very strange. Try to make this more symmetrical. Or just replace this slider with a couple of sliders, that fit even better to the music.
00:47:323 (1) - Slider End: Why is the whistle here so loud and in the following sliders it is silent?

Moderate

00:25:806 (3) - Why did you use normal whistle here? You didn't use it in Lento.
00:43:392 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe try to make the volume difference higher here.

Allegro

00:54:151 (4) - This slider should start at the white tick, if you do this of course make the slider end earlier.
01:06:772 (1,2) - This overlap looks a bit weird maybe move 2 to : x: 464, y: 184


Everything fine in Presto and Prestissimo.
I like the hitsounding, especially in Prestissimo. :)

That's it! If you have any questions ask them via PM or ingame!
Moway
Hi, from my queue.

General

I don't think having Chopin's middle name is necessary, as he is mostly referred to as Frederic Chopin. He is also credited in the game as such, so getting rid of the middle name is correct.

Lento

00:04:073(1)- move this up so it doesn't overlap with 00:02:634(3)

Moderato

00:02:220(3,4,5)- these anti jumps could be confusing for beginners to read.
00:05:534(2,3,4)-^
00:08:427(2,3,4)-^
00:37:392(5)- NC
00:56:013(3)- NC
01:17:944(1,2,3,4,)- space these normally, the way it is now is confusing looking

Allegro

00:04:185(3,1)- delete (3) and replace with a circle and have (1) start at 00:04:289. Right now (1) just kind of appear with no musical cue behind it.

Presto

01:03:668(3,1)- this doesn't really flow to me, try moving to 80,276

Prestissimo

I can't play this so I cant' mod it :3



Sorry I don't have more to say, for the most part everything seems okay. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
I don't think having Chopin's middle name is necessary, as he is mostly referred to as Frederic Chopin. He is also credited in the game as such, so getting rid of the middle name is correct.
My frenzy fanatism to Chopin does not allow me to do such cruel thing :<
Deif
This is the official Track Listing from the videogame Catherine, where it says the composer is clearly Frédéric Chopin (though the "é" characters aren't admitted for beatmap submission):



Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_(video_game)

To be honest... Not even in my music classes at school I've studied this composer as Frédéric François Chopin.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
To be honest... Not even in my music classes at school I've studied this composer as Frédéric François Chopin.
Obviously. Because Chopin's most pieces used to learn in Conservatory of Music.

Also, they should not decide how to use his name on right or left, as you noticed Johann Sebastian Bach's name is written fully, and not only.
His full name is Frédéric François Chopin (Frederic Francois Chopin i wrote, bcz of osu limit) and Revolutionary Etude was composed by only him, not by ATLUS corporation, not by Shoji Meguro, not by me, not by everyone, whole credit goes to F.F. Chopin. That's why i used his full name.
riffy
lol, why so many unused green lines in easier diffs? i guess you copipasted them from harderdiffs :/

and btw, tick rate 2 for all diffs to follow rhythm.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
lol, why so many unused green lines in easier diffs? i guess you copipasted them from harderdiffs :/
Because different volume changes.

tick rate 2 for all diffs to follow rhythm.
My set of tick rate also follows rhythm.
Melan Blue
Модить идеальные мапы слишком сложно. :cry: Так что это всего лишь предложения.

[Lento]
00:39:047 (1) - убрать нк
01:04:703 (3) - добавить нк

[Moderato]
00:53:944 (1) - на конце должен быть свисток
00:55:599 (2) - вместо свистка сюда нормал финиш
00:56:013 (3) - с начала убрать финиш
01:17:944 (1,2) - может вместо них сделать один большой слайдер?

[Allegro]
00:25:703 (3) - добавить нк
00:43:392 (1) - может лучше так? http://puu.sh/1wlox
01:10:392 (6,6) - добавить нк

[Presto]
00:47:116 (4) - добавить нк и убрать на следующем слайдере,
затем добавить нк на 00:48:565 (4) -

[Prestissimo]
<3
Birdy
[Lento]
00:24:151 (1) - x:52
00:48:979 (2) - Middle sliderpoint could be on 00:47:323 (1)'s ending point (284,292)

[Moderato]
00:36:979 (4) - Not a big problem, but it's a bit too close to 00:37:392 (5)'s track
01:01:392 (1) - Slider end 1 square up (Grid lvl 4)
01:03:875 (1) - Slider end 1 square down
01:08:634 (4) - y:78

[Allegro]
00:11:116 (2) - Slider end to 204,96
01:08:634 (4) - 148,248
01:11:943 (4) - 272,276

[Presto]
01:02:220 (1,2) - For some reason these annoy my eyes. It's probably not really a problem to anyone else, so no need to do anything.
Otherwise, this and Prestissimo seem all fine.

Wishing all the best luck to get this kind of music ranked too.
those
[Prestissimo]
Great diff. Two things for this diff:
  1. 00:12:772 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - This doesn't play too well since it's the only time where you start your 1/4 sliders on the offbeat. Much better is if you take this slider sequence and start it at 00:13:392 - instead. Refer to your ending cuz you did it the better way there.
  2. 00:40:703 (1) - Instead of simply a spacing change for the objects at 00:43:392 (1,2,3,4) - you can start from here; slowly increasing the slider velocity may give a better effect as well.
[Moderato]
  1. 00:25:806 (3) - Hitsound here stands out, different from all other diffs.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Oh, nice idea about velocity cresendo. Fixed everything.



Thanks a lot guys for moddings!
Crok425
Here is the name in Polish ''Fryderyk Franciszek Chopin'' and here is the name in French ''Frédéric François Chopin'' use whichever one you want. By the way, good that you came back to Osu! I dunno what made you come back but oh well, I'll play this and make a mod about it :).
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
I can't use 'é,ç'
Aleks719
General
вообще нелогично использовать сорс как альбом оста и титл ему(альбому) несоответствующий. Или сорс бы убрать или хз. Нелогично же. А если убирать сорс, то и половину тагов с ним.
каундаун и леттербоксы не нужны. вообще
Prestississimo - 53.6% (Extra difficulty, out of ranking). <--- ну и выкинь из мапсета тогда?
а по поводу артиста в оригинале ты не совсем прав. например
разве ты не можешь сделать аналогично?

Lentochki
00:20:013 (3) - сделай софт клэп+вистл?
00:23:737 (4) - хоть бы вистл чтоль добавил, теряется нота по звуку
00:36:565 (3) - ^
01:04:703 (3) - нк сюда? по ритму дожно быть

Moderator
AR-1 выглядит лучше, по ощущениям
лично мне софт финиши звучат куда приятнее,чем нормал финиши. дело ваше конечно, просто сказал
00:35:737 (3) - почнму в начало не поставить софт финиш,как у тебя стоит в том же комбо на (6)
00:40:703 (1,2,3,4,5) - на подъеме громкости вистлы стоят лишь в начале и конце. Такое место стоило бы подчеркнуть вистлами на каждом из отмеченных объектов.
01:18:151 (2,3,4) - такие оверлапы в нормалах не ок же

Allegrova
аибат пишет про один анснэпнутый конец слайдера, но тот вроде ок. скорее всего баг
00:25:289 (2) - вистл в конец, очевидно же
00:40:703 (1) - в музыке не так тихо. прибавь громкости на начале слайдера

Prestol
00:01:185 (2,3,4) - выровняй спейсинг, мелочь, но в глаза сразу бросилось.
что-то было еще, но мод пишу второой раз, 1й случайно закрылось. раз не вспомнил, значит не так важно

Presti чего-то там
топовую даже не модил, все равно не на ранк, твори чо хошь. аибат правда написал, что много анснэпнутых концов слайдеров. проверь, мб баг тоже.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
вообще нелогично использовать сорс как альбом оста и титл ему(альбому) несоответствующий. Или сорс бы убрать или хз. Нелогично же. А если убирать сорс, то и половину тагов с ним.
Это не альбом OST'a, а сама игра. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_ ... 1%80%D0%B0)

каундаун и леттербоксы не нужны. вообще
Это да, забыл убрать.

Prestississimo - 53.6% (Extra difficulty, out of ranking). <--- ну и выкинь из мапсета тогда?
Что уже давно сделано :)

топовую даже не модил, все равно не на ранк, твори чо хошь. аибат правда написал, что много анснэпнутых концов слайдеров. проверь, мб баг тоже.
Ох Алекс, какой же ты чувак не внимательный. Prestississimo это одно, а Prestissimo совсем другое.


[Lento]

00:23:737 (4) - хоть бы вистл чтоль добавил, теряется нота по звуку
Нее, по мне не звучит, ваще.

Остальное исправил.

[Moderato]
AR-1 выглядит лучше, по ощущениям
По мне 4-ка лучше :<
лично мне софт финиши звучат куда приятнее,чем нормал финиши. дело ваше конечно, просто сказал
Ой нет-нет, как раз они для меня имею свою важность, если ты заметил, в разных местах по разному, но в основном теме, использовал normal.

Остальное исправил.

[Allegro]
аибат пишет про один анснэпнутый конец слайдера, но тот вроде ок. скорее всего баг
А где конкретно, могу на всякий пожарный перестроить, чтобы избежать этого.

00:25:289 (2) - вистл в конец, очевидно же
Тут я во всех сложностях нормал использовал, и здесь также сделаю.

00:40:703 (1) - в музыке не так тихо. прибавь громкости на начале слайдера
Ну не, мне так больше нравится :<

Остальное исправил

[Presto]

Все исправил.
narakucrimson
Here I am!

[General]
  1. First of all I wonder if you actually know what the difficulty names mean... For example, "presto" means either "soon" or "early".
    I don't follow the logic behind those names, so may I ask what... What were you aiming for?
  2. Do you use AiBAT? In case you don't, here's the important stuff it points out and you should be aware of:
    AiBAT
    Allegro
    1. 00:22:392 (4) - Unsnapped slider (end).
    Prestissimo
    1. 00:01:806 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
    2. 00:02:220 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
    3. 00:02:634 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
    4. 00:03:047 (4) - Unsnapped slider (end).
    5. 00:04:703 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
    6. 00:05:116 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
    7. 00:05:530 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
    8. 00:05:944 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
  3. Those are a LOT of tags! Are you sure all of them are necessary?
[Lento]
  1. 01:00:565 (1) - This here... The end feels kinda empty, you know? The note there is very dominant and it has a very high pitch. I think this is better represented by a standard soft whistle.
    There is a similar sound in the music afterwards 01:03:875, so you could chose to keep this as it is or change both for consistency. Honestly, I don't really like that custom hitwhistle, I almost can't hear it.

    The same goes for the rest of the difficulties!
[Prestissimo]
  1. I wonder if it's just me, but I find the spacing to be a nightmare to read... Have you gotten some plays on this?
  2. 00:25:289 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I found this acceleration in spacing very hard to understand, it was a too big of an acceleration to understand it as 1/4. Could you change this a bit, making it a bit more readable, and even making is "scale" into the next similar jumps? To give this some continuity, you know.
  3. 00:33:254 (7,8,1,2) - The hitbursts around this pattern make it a bit hard to read. I suggest placing (8,1,2) as if they were a continuation of the previous stream, but rather "unstacking" them, moving them elsewhere, where they are visible.
  4. 00:56:013 (2) - For similar reasons, this gets overlapped by some hitbursts. It gets tricky to read! Give it a test play, you'll see.
    Try to figure some other way to place this - you'll probably have to rework the following stream!
That's really all I have to say. Good job!
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
First of all I wonder if you actually know what the difficulty names mean... For example, "presto" means either "soon" or "early".
I don't follow the logic behind those names, so may I ask what... What were you aiming for?
Lento – slowly
Moderato – moderately
Allegro – fast, quickly and bright
Presto – very fast
Prestissimo – extremely fast. Actually those names are used in score sheets of music to show the tempo of various pieces. I used such names to describe how much it is difficult, and how fast you should react on each difficulties of mapset :P

Those are a LOT of tags! Are you sure all of them are necessary?
YEEEEAS.

01:00:565 (1) - This here... The end feels kinda empty, you know? The note there is very dominant and it has a very high pitch. I think this is better represented by a standard soft whistle.
Noooo, can't agree with you, just a soft whistle. That sound of great bell fits very well with high septachord on that part. No-no fully disagree with that.

There is a similar sound in the music afterwards 01:03:875, so you could chose to keep this as it is or change both for consistency.
Similar one is this 01:03:875 - , which even has same notes ;P and custom whistle :>. That sound is actually a finish, but i named it as a custom whistle :/

00:25:289 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I found this acceleration in spacing very hard to understand, it was a too big of an acceleration to understand it as 1/4. Could you change this a bit, making it a bit more readable, and even making is "scale" into the next similar jumps? To give this some continuity, you know.
I understand your position. Such spacing has been done on purpose. 00:25:289 (1,2,1,2) - as a high start of the main theme of Revolutionary Etude and
00:26:944 (1,2,1,2) - the end of the theme which is 'piano' (calm). It's easy to understand if listen to the music, it's pretty obvious that it is 1/4. I really want to keep this as it is now, cz without that main theme goes against of my thoughts about that part :3

Other stuff fixed ~ Thanks Naraku for modding
Colin Hou
[General]
  1. booklet goes with 'ショパン' not 'フレデリック・フランソワ・ショパン', I'd say Chopin as artist and the full as tags. ya I 've read your former posts
  2. sliderslide is really annoying when the overall volume is high. try this if you don't have one, http://puu.sh/1sZ4R
  3. the 60% normal-hitnormal is kind of too much and dizzy, lower the volume.
[Lento]
  1. 00:40:703 (1) - the ending part need some point to look softer.
[Moderato]
  1. 00:02:220 (3,4,5) - x0.33 spacing might be confusing in Normal like diff. stack them or use x0.5
looks good, forum PM after you've done these.
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
Seems that i need to remove my ambitions and stop showing people how much i love Chopin :P
Ok, if Booklet says like that, then let it be like that.

Thanks for modding Colin, everything is fixed :P
Colin Hou
00:29:530 (1) - a missing new combo
Topic Starter
Louis Cyphre
In Presto, right?
Fixed
Colin Hou
good

Charles445
Yknow I was hoping you'd take my advice on readability. I can't see people sightreading this very easily.
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Louis Cyphre
Thanks Colin :P

@Charles445:

I had asked several people to test it before i got those mods. It's not very EASY to get, obviously. For people less experienced i made Presto difficulty ~
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Charles445 wrote:

Yknow I was hoping you'd take my advice on readability. I can't see people sightreading this very easily.
If it helps any, I full combo'd the map first try, but maybe that's only because I know the related musical piece.
Jordan
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HeatKai
congrats Louis :)
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Louis Cyphre
yay, thanks ~
threenash
gz! i like it :D
Melan Blue
Yay~ Gratz! :)
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