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Basshunter - Boten Anna

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Al-Azif
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Al-Azif
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, 18 April, 2009 at 1:20:02

Artist: Basshunter
Title: Boten Anna
BPM: 140
Filesize: 4217kb
Play Time: 02:54
Difficulties Available:
  1. Alazy (4.74 stars, 419 notes)
  2. Insane (4.93 stars, 435 notes)
  3. Normal (4.25 stars, 266 notes)
Download: Basshunter - Boten Anna
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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I (Table fag?) and James (Mousy?) can reach all jumps in hardest difficulty...
Alace's difficulty added.

To mod: Beat Snap
1/6 in Insane
1/3 in Normal
Last edited by Al-Azif , edited 16 times in total.
al2e10
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al2e10
It is a good song!!
But I think something you can change~
Like:

[Normal]
Timming settion
Slider Tick Rate change to 1.

[Hard]
01:17:642 Change to new combo

[ALL]
It is a good betmap , but you can change some hit-circle to finish.
It is difficult to play 3-times-combo to every time.[Hard]

Try to make a ease betmap~
*I thing you can do it !!*
Al-Azif
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Al-Azif

al2e10 wrote:

It is a good song!!
But I think something you can change~
Like:

[Normal]
Timming settion
Slider Tick Rate change to 1. no thanks, doesn't sound good here.

[Hard]
01:17:642 Change to new combo I can't find anything here, in Insane and normal

[ALL]
It is a good betmap , but you can change some hit-circle to finish.
It is difficult to play 3-times-combo to every time.[Hard]

I use alot double and tripple to create my own rhythm, but I have reduce to use these in normal.

Try to make a ease betmap~
*I thing you can do it !!*

Maybe , if it's strongly require to
Lesjuh
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Lesjuh
Awesome you revived it. I can remember it still was James'
I like the way it is mapped very much :)
VincentLaw
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VincentLaw
yes indeed it's very nice mapped

i enjoyed testing it

STAR!
Sir Minelli
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Sir Minelli
I want this ranked.

Boom!! Starrrrrred!
m980
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Here since the beginning
m980
Hi Bye
machol30
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machol30
Before anyone ranks, I will reduce back to star. I will edit this post again for Normal.

Timing: Offset sounds a bit early, by about ~10ms? I don't know what happened at around 01:53:76 (1), though. :?

Insane:
The beginning four combos bug me (00:01:19 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4)) - How should I explain? 00:02:91 (1,2) has not the same spacing as 00:03:77 (3,4). If you move 1 and 2 down so it is overlapping 3 and 4, you can see this (they won't entirely overlap exactly). I offer some suggestions for fixing this:
00:03:34 (2) - up1, right1
00:03:77 (3,4) - up1
00:05:05 (2) - up4, right2
00:05:48 (3) - up2, right4
00:06:34 (1,2,3,4) - I'm sure you can figure this one out for yourself. ;P
Well, do what you want, here. I can kind of see what you're doing by giving each deeper angles, or whatever.

00:10:48 (10,11) - Mirror of 8,9?
00:23:34 (7,1) - snap to 00:21:62 (3,4)
00:24:34 (3) - Mirror of 7,1
00:25:05 (3,4) - move left1
00:28:19 (2,3,4,5) - This is not a perfect square! :O 1 and 2: either move 1sliderend down1, left1 -or- move 2sliderend up1, left1. 3 and 4: copy and paste 1 and 2 respectively.
00:37:05 (11,1) - Move left1. 10-11 distance is not the same as 2-3 and 6-7
00:41:91 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - similar to the first section of the song/map.
00:53:34 (5) - sliderend, move left1. snap 6 back to 5's slider end.
-break-
01:16:62 (1,4) - no symmetry?
01:20:05 (1) - Move right2?
01:21:76 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Either move 1,2,3 right1 -or- move 4,5,6 right1.
01:40:48 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - similar to first section of song/map. Can be fixed by moving 01:41:76 (1,2,3,4) down1, right1.
01:42:34 (1,2,3,4) - 1: down1, right1. 2: down1. 3: down3, right1. 4: down5, left3.
01:50:91 (2) - move left1.

01:51:76 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think I have way to fix 8,1,2,3,4,5,6.
01:52:05 (5,6) - right1
01:52:05 (5,6) - right2
01:54:19 (3,4) - left1
01:54:62 (5,6) - left2
01:56:91 (8) - right2

02:15:19 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing?
02:21:76 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing?
02:38:91 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing?
02:40:19 (1,2,3,4) - check these sliders because they are not all the same. The square is not perfect.
02:41:91 (5,6) - Move this ~down6~ so it's in the center of the square.
02:45:76 (1,2) - Make them more similar please.
02:53:76 (8,9,10,11,12) - Move up2 (Mirror of 4,5)
02:57:19 (5,6,7,8) - 5,6: move left1. 7,8: move down1, left2.

and /me shots a star. <<33 this map!!
James
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go burai ahahahahaha good thing its not my map anymore~ or i'll just ignore that move one grid up down left right :P
machol30
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machol30

James wrote:

go burai ahahahahaha good thing its not my map anymore~
Not anymore?

James wrote:

or i'll just ignore that move one grid up down left right :P
You would be amazed how much difference a one grid spacing could make.
James
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James
imo its a waste of time fixing those 1 grid stuffs. its the editor's fault anyways for having not equal grid on the playfield.
Al-Azif
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Al-Azif
mwhahaahha :D
awesome

All fixed, really

01:53:76 (1) < If use 1/3 beat snap here, they fit the music imo
Soaprman
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Soaprman
I've been holding onto this map for a long time - thought about uploading it myself when James left but decided I shouldn't since I don't really know James or anything. Nice to see this uploaded again.

I've played the hell out of this map and there's no way I'm not starring this.
James
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James
I don't really care whoever uploads this map anyways~
Alace
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Alace
What can i say
Awesome~
James
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James
Ready for take off~

edit: wow i can star a map without using kudos points~
EVA-X
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EVA-X
shoot
fuffolo
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fuffolo
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Al-Azif
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Al-Azif
burai, you are holding this :?
yanki
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yanki
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proseyu
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proseyu
jump jump jump

good map >w<

STAR

☆_☆
machol30
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machol30

Al-Azif wrote:

burai, you are holding this :?
Oh, sorry. Lazy me, lazy me. >:(

Normal:
00:41:05 (5) - Make this slider the same as 1 ?
00:42:62 (4,5) - Move down1.
00:50:77 (7,1) - Move down1.
00:44:91 (3) - Move left1.
01:14:91 (1,2) - Why are there whistle sounds on these sliders?
01:24:19 (4) - Move right2.
01:41:77 (6,7,8,9,10) - Move up1.
02:08:34 (5,6,7,8) - Move down1.
02:09:77 (12) - Make sure this slider passes straight through 02:08:34 (5,6).

Insane:
00:17:77 (1,2,3,4) - Move up1.
00:28:19 (2,3,4,5) - This still looks bad. Make 3 and 5 to be the right (90-degree) rotation 2 and 4.
00:31:91 (2,3) - Move up and right just a little (no grid snap) to get the full effect (this is because 1 is also not snapped to grid).
00:55:05 (2,3,4,5) - Move all up1. For 2 and 3, also, you have to move them down and left a little (no grid snap) to get the full effect (this is because 1 is also not snapped to grid).
01:40:91 (3,4,5,6) - Move down1.
01:50:91 (2) - Move up1.
01:51:76 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Move down1.
01:57:19 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Normal soundset?


Also, that section at 01:53:76 (1) is really bugging because of the timing and such.
Al-Azif
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Al-Azif
Normal is all fixed, About Insane:

00:55:05 (2,3,4,5) - Move all up1. For 2 and 3, also, you have to move them down and left a little (no grid snap) to get the full effect (this is because 1 is also not snapped to grid).
It doesn't look good when I move these notes up 1, so I have find an other way to fix it.
00:55:05 (2,3,4,5) - on the gide
00:54:77 (1) and 00:55:84 (1,2,3) - isn't on the grid now

1:57:19 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Normal soundset?
change to soft, seems good :D

01:53:76 (1)
hmm its hard to explain really well, but the six-eight time rhythm always go double,
but never start with double at first time. just like galloping, you need one step to jump up, and then go double step jumps.

So the rhythm is start at here : 01:53:48 - at the slider end point, not 01:53:76 (1), and I can't find anyother place to make this 'sound' better, also I have no trouble to hit those notes.
machol30
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More stuff:
Normal:
00:39:77 (3) - Move middle point left1.
00:41:05 (5) - Move middle point down1, right1. Also, put clap on the first beat, not the second.
00:43:91 (10) - Move back 1/3 (timeline).
01:15:62 (2) - Get rid of the whistle on the third repeat.
02:40:91 (4) - Add whistle ?

Insane:
01:40:91 (3,4,5,6) - Move right1.
00:55:48 (4) - Add whistle ?
01:32:76 (2,3,4,5) - Move right1.
01:44:05 (3,4) - Put a finish on the down beat of both sliders ?
02:49:19 (3) - Put a whistle at the beginning and the end.
Al-Azif
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Al-Azif
amazing... u point out many details that I never notices xD
machol30
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Al-Azif wrote:

Amazing... you point out so many details that almost no one ever notices! xD
Fixed, and thank you. :)

I'll take another look later, when I'm not feeling lazy and listening to awesome Cave Story Remixes. I guess the main problem that's ultimately keeping me from bubbling is that one section with strange timing. I'll look deeper into this matter as well, when I'm running through the beatmap.

EDIT:
Normal:
00:41:05 (5) - Move the middle slider point down1 and right1.
Also, make the first and third timing sections as sc1 (soft custom override 1 soundset).
Insane:
01:35:91 (2) - Snap this onto slider end.
01:36:62 (5,6) - Move this right just a little (grid snap off) so 2--3 and 4--5 are the same distance.
02:42:33 (1) - Place a whistle at the first beat.
02:49:19 (3) - ^
Al-Azif
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Al-Azif
Thanks for improve those placement

01:36:62 (5,6) - Move this right just a little
i move to left, bcoz :
01:35:91 (2) - x365 ; y264
-
01:36:19 (3,4) - x312 ; y168
=
x53 ; y96

so the next one
01:36:62 (5) - (x312 ; y168 - x53 ; y96) = x259 ; y72

*left side. Oh damn, this is extremely picky

About offset : I feel good with 1,207 , need some more test :?
Andrea
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Andrea
[Normal]

01:45:77 (1) - Add a clap?
01:49:19 (6) - Finish here?
01:50:05 (7) - New combo.
01:52:62 (11) - Finish?
02:32:91 (1) - Move this 6 to the left.
02:33:34 (2) - Move this 3 to the left.
02:40:19 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Move this 4 to the left.

[Insane]

01:19:19 (2) - Move this 5 square up?
01:48:76 (4) - 2 square up?

Offset: 1.195 (But im not sure of it.)


That's all. Awesome map. Star'd.
Al-Azif
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Al-Azif

osuplayer111 wrote:

[Normal]

| 01:45:77 (1) - Add a clap?
| 01:49:19 (6) - Finish here?
| 01:50:05 (7) - New combo. - Its more confusion without the 'follow points' , no?
| 01:52:62 (11) - Finish?
|
|--I'm sorry to say, I don't know what they sing there, but it doesn't sound like calling any hitsound in this part.

|02:32:91 (1) - Move this 6 to the left.
|02:33:34 (2) - Move this 3 to the left.
|
|--I don't get it. those sliders spaced with same distance from each other, and going left right left right... if change everything to the left, it going off the play area.

02:40:19 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Move this 4 to the left. no thx

[Insane]

01:19:19 (2) - Move this 5 square up? no,thx
01:48:76 (4) - 2 square up? ok

Offset: 1.195 (But im not sure of it.)
thx

That's all. Awesome map. Star'd.
lukewarmholiday
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James
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i hit all of them with 400dpi settings so it should be fine ;)
lukewarmholiday
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lukewarmholiday

James wrote:

i hit all of them with 400dpi settings so it should be fine ;)
Whoop de fucking do it doesn't change the fact that is one of the most absurd difficulty spikes I've seen.

Actually I think it is the most absurd.

I feel bad for just putting that end stream at the end of The Witches Ball. This is like BLARHGLAHGLHRHLGHALHGLH.
James
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the map is supposed to be easy then it gets harder every part. so it should be fine.
Al-Azif
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normal: 01:20:05 (3) - changed, thanks for suggestion
lukewarmholiday
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lukewarmholiday

James wrote:

the map is supposed to be easy then it gets harder every part. so it should be fine.
Well that's just a dumb way to map.

Especially since normal never gets hard enough to keep me from sleeping.

So I guess people who will enjoy the map is newer players and our good ones.
machol30
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lukewarmholiday wrote:

James wrote:

the map is supposed to be easy then it gets harder every part. so it should be fine.
Well that's just a dumb way to map.

Especially since normal never gets hard enough to keep me from sleeping.

So I guess people who will enjoy the map is newer players and our good ones.
I'll map a difficulty if you want. ;)

Also, I am pretty content with this beatmap being for ranks. Just one more play-through before I thought-bubble...

EDIT:
Normal:
The first timing section still needs to have custom override.
00:30:20 (11) - Move back 1/3 and stack it on 9,10.
01:52:63 (11) - Is this finish intentional? I don't know; it just sounds a little funny at first.
Insane:
Timing section at 01:59:277: try testing this spinner. It sounds strange, especially at the end of it. :/
Al-Azif
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>lukewarmholiday
Bcoz the ranking rulz neeed one 4 stars normal difficulty, imo the normal difficulty should be everyone can pass, so that is that.
And the 'fun' map always come with the hard one, that maybe lot of jumps or stream...

>bura
I don't have time to map someting call 'fun / hard', feel free to make one diff.

00:30:20 (11) - Move back 1/3 and stack it on 9,10. - weird.
01:52:63 (11) - Is this finish intentional? I don't know; it just sounds a little funny at first. - I forget to remove.. it was testing what 'osuplayer111' suggest.

01:59:277 spinner - resnaped, ty
machol30
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Al-Azif wrote:

>burai
I don't have time to map someting call 'fun / hard', feel free to make one diff. Yep, that's the plan. ;)

Al-Azif wrote:

01:59:277 spinner - resnaped, ty I was talking about the timing section, really. :?
Also...

buraimaster1234 wrote:

Normal:
The first timing section still needs to have custom override.
:?
FurukawaPan
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FurukawaPan

lukewarmholiday wrote:

James wrote:

the map is supposed to be easy then it gets harder every part. so it should be fine.
Well that's just a dumb way to map.

Especially since normal never gets hard enough to keep me from sleeping.

So I guess people who will enjoy the map is newer players and our good ones.
Umm, for one thing the official game maps this way. Each section gets progressively harder. Also, the central challenge to this game is to not break your combo, maps generally challenge by attempting to force the player to break their combo. (Either through tiring the player out, or putting surprise jumps half way through).

That said, I've had no issues passing [Insane] on this map. It sure is hard, but insane really should be that way. With some effort, I feel it's FC-able, and the wide jumps really make it fun! (I can't remember needing this much table space for too many maps 8-) )

Al Azif: (Some modding):

I would strongly recommend reducing the drain on Insane. It is a bit too high, and it takes you out of the map just for making a few mistakes. Please reduce it about 2 tick marks!
Al-Azif
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>bura
I don't want to override those soft-hitfinish in normal, ty.

>james039
I guess james pass it with hidden already..
sorry for my custom skin, maybe hurt your eyes.

I will wait for burai's difficulty to see how much hp drain need to reduce.

machol30
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FurukawaPan
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Al-Azif wrote:

>james039
I guess james pass it with hidden already..
sorry for my custom skin, maybe hurt your eyes.

I will wait for burai's difficulty to see how much hp drain need to reduce.
Oh, well, James can do anything on hidden, he's a master of Hidden mode :)

The custom skin has no problem, my eyes feel just fine, thank you 8-)

I was just surprised at how a couple of slip-ups in Insane made me fail the map so quickly. The fact I could pass it anyway though after a couple tries means to me the level is not too difficult, but I think the drain is pretty tough on this map.
James
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i think i beat insane with hidden and hard rock too...

i guess im just really good at jumps....
James
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James
what happened to the timing? i get 3043984092384093 100s now...


edit: please delete/merge my two posts. i forgot i posted before lol
edit2: oh timing is fine. i just played it with no mods using custom offset thats why lol
Al-Azif
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is your UAO right?
i set it with peppy's offset wizard :idea:
James
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yeh the timing is fine i just forgot that im using a custom offset for this song.
Rolled
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I understand where luke is coming from when he is talking about the difficulty spikes. I read the thread before playing the map so I was semi-expecting it to get hard on my first play of the song, but I actually died. Second time I passed with a pretty poor score.

Insane is fun though, don't get me wrong, I just think it's bordering overkill in terms of difficulty towards the end. Rankable? I think so. That's not the problem at hand. I think a good in-between insane/normal difficulty is required though. Possibly burai's he has in the making?

So I'm curious if burai is still planning on making a map, and that will decide what I'd do with this. For the moment I'm going to +priority as it's a pretty fun map, but as I've said I think it needs a good, fun, more balanced difficulty.
James
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i wonder whats so hard about those jumps... i even made the circles bigger...

azif, if they want it nerfed again (for the 3rd time, 2times when i uploaded the map)
make the jumps shorter by 2-3 grids per jump lol
Rolled
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I don't really think they need to be nerfed, just a more balanced difficulty.
vytalibus
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[Insane]
00:16:06 (1,2,3) - This sounds slightly awkward. imo (1) should be at the red tick.
01:53:77 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Move these back by 1/6. Sounds better. And do something about the slider if you do follow this, since it'll probably end at a 1/6 tick.
01:57:13 (1) - Move the beginning forward by 1/6.
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