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Hierophobic - Introduction

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Mara
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 22. syyskuuta 2011 at 23:39:27

Artist: Hierophobic
Title: Introduction
Source: The Legend of Zelda
Tags: remix D33d lepidopodus
BPM: 150
Filesize: 2543kb
Play Time: 01:36
Difficulties Available:
  1. Crazyphobic (4,99 stars, 298 notes)
  2. Deedophobic (2,27 stars, 95 notes)
  3. lepidophobic! - Taiko Oni (4,94 stars, 486 notes)
  4. Normalphobic (3,65 stars, 127 notes)
Download: Hierophobic - Introduction
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Facts about this mapset:
- This remix is by Hierophobic, a cool guy from Sweden.
- This mapset got perfectly timed in first try.
- This map also got unranked once.
- Crazyphobic caused so much butthurt.
- Crazyphobic will cause more butthurt.
- Everyone is mad because of this.
- Special thanks to ziin for detailing the problem friendly.
heintsi
tuubamods in ventrilo~
lepidopodus
Taiko map finished, Oni lvl. 7, I guess? I hope you like it.
The song itself is repeated twice, so map itself is almost repeated twice, though slightly modified. If you don't like it, contact me.

Hmm, I guess timing needs to be rechecked, anyway DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY SNAP THESE NOTES cause 1/3 & 1/4 mixed patterns are used.

EDIT: Whoops, so there was already BG for Taiko in the mapset, hmm, can you apply it?

Download: Hierophobic - Introduction (LunaticMara) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni].osu
Topic Starter
Mara
Applied, thanks for your taiko diff. It's beautiful. I don't think BPM is wrong since Hierophobic himself told me that he made the song 150 BPM. I wonder if my offset is wrong then.

Is this what are you talking about?


EDIT: Waiting for guest diff.
jericho2442
revived this fine shizzzz, hahaha enjoy and best of luck with getting this ranked o/
D33d
Made an Easy because I can. Huge sliders and hitsounds abound!

I'll tone it down if people dislike the amount of whistles.

http://puu.sh/4IgN
Kawayi Rika
[General]

Basic good, don't forget to add sound effects.
Slider can remove unnecessary point.
For example:01:22:808 (3) X:208 Y:144


[Deedophoic]

Look all right,nice job. :)


[Normalphobic]

00:22:408 (1,2,4) - Slider can change the angle of.
01:22:408 (5,1) - Distance error.


[Crazyphobic]

OD+1
00:29:908 (3) - add NC.
00:33:208 (5) - ^
00:58:608 (5) - ^
01:00:708 (2) - ^
01:01:608 (4) - ^
01:05:908 (7) - ^
01:16:808 (1,2) - Distance error.(Not suitable jump)
01:18:708 (8) - add NC.


good luck~
Topic Starter
Mara
I'm fixing those, once I get back home.

Forget that, I fixed them at work. Thanks for your mod, here's some kudosu as a reward.
Zelos
Here ya go Mara.

Folder:
OMGZ DELETE OSB nah im kidding folder is perfect.

Timing:
33 would be the correct offset

Random Thought:
Not once did I think you could jumpstyle or shuffle to a legend of zelda song but now I stand corrected.

Deedohphobic:
00:14:408 (1) - remove new combo here.
00:36:808 (1) - remove new combo here too.
01:16:808 (x) - insert a note here? it seems a bit quiet.

Very nice D33D

Normalphobic:
00:26:808 (6) - move this to the right 1 grid point so that it becomes centered with the previous and the next notes.
00:39:608 (4,8) - stack these? I know there a ways but it just looks weird. You could stack these by moving note 8 down 1 grid point since a break comes after this note.
00:58:808 (4) - move this to the right 1 grid point so that it becomes centered with the previous and next notes.
01:01:208 (2) - ^^

Pretty nice.

Lepidon! Taiko Oni:
Not once have I found anything wrong with your taikos.

Crazyphobic:
00:17:908 (x) - add a note here so it matches the streams you have been putting in.
00:30:708 (x) - ^

and that would be it.
Very nice imo
Star.
D33d

Zelos wrote:

Deedohphobic:
00:14:408 (1) - remove new combo here. Done.
00:36:808 (1) - remove new combo here too. Done.
01:16:808 (x) - insert a note here? it seems a bit quiet. I know that AI Mod is extremely gash for just about everything but snapping, but I kind of agree with it about having a note a beat after a spinner. Leaving the note out for recovery time.

Very nice D33D \:D/
Download: Hierophobic - Introduction (LunaticMara) [Deedophobic].osu
Topic Starter
Mara

Zelos wrote:

Crazyphobic:
00:30:708 (x) - New note etc etc
This gave me some trouble and it did end up like this. I hope that's totally okay.


Thanks for the mod and thanks for the star!
marshallracer
#modreqs criminal scum request stuff, y'know

[Deedophobic]
looks solid

[Normalphobic]
00:27:633 (1) - though Auto reaches 3000 Bonus there, it feels very short for Normal
01:15:633 (1) - ^

[lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
i like the use of 1/3 & 1/4 :3
Are all these inheriting sections on purpose unsnapped?

[Crazyphobic]
00:20:233 (1) - move it to 00:20:299? sounds better there imo
00:21:033 (6) - move to 00:21:099
00:21:433 (7) - move to 00:21:499

well, this is all i could find
mapping fits good to the song
lepi's Taiko is awesome as always
*gives imaginary Star*
Topic Starter
Mara

marshall_racer wrote:

[Normalphobic]
00:27:633 (1) - though Auto reaches 3000 Bonus there, it feels very short for Normal I'll not change that yet
01:15:633 (1) - ^

[lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
i like the use of 1/3 & 1/4 :3
Are all these inheriting sections on purpose unsnapped? My bad, I fucked that up when I was fixing the timing.

[Crazyphobic]
00:20:233 (1) - move it to 00:20:299? sounds better there imo ^
00:21:033 (6) - move to 00:21:099 ^
00:21:433 (7) - move to 00:21:499 ^
Thanks. Take this kudosu with you.
Raging Bull
I pick Suicide.

General:
Can you remove either combo 1 or 3? They are both the same/similar so remove one.

Deed:
00:49:633 (5) - NC here?
01:02:433 (3) - Make one of those delicious wave slider here? Since it's rather long and boring as a straight slider ;_;
Sorry everything else was delicious sliders.

Normal:
00:27:633 (1) - Spinner is rather short on normal. Mind if you remove it and replace with notes/sliders?
01:15:633 (1) - ^
Oh dear. Can you add some variety in normal? ;_; Everything is like 1/1 notes only. See if you can find some ways to add some 1/2 notes in.

Crazy:
True to its name I suppose.

I guess they call you lunaticmara because your normal difficulty gap to crazy is lunatic. Try to make a diff between normal or lower down the difficulty of crazy.
Topic Starter
Mara

Raging Bull wrote:

Normal:
Oh dear. Can you add some variety in normal? ;_; Everything is like 1/1 notes only. See if you can find some ways to add some 1/2 notes in.
I don't find 1/2s so sexy sounding for some reason in Normal.. :| I don't know why.

But yeah, thanks. I killed those spinners now and fixed colors. I'm trying to search for guest diff.
D33d

Raging Bull wrote:

I pick Suicide.
Deed:
00:49:633 (5) - NC here?Sure, I think.
01:02:433 (3) - Make one of those delicious wave slider here? Since it's rather long and boring as a straight slider ;_; It would be delicious and I'll make one, as long as I can make it fit with everything else.
Sorry everything else was delicious sliders.
Charles445
General
Why aren't combo colors consistent on all difficulties?

Easy
AR +1
00:17:633 (1) - Remove new combo
00:40:033 (1) - ^^
00:52:833 (1) - ^^
01:12:033 (1) - ^^
01:21:633 (1) - ^^
01:24:833 (1) - ^^
01:28:033 (1) - ^^
NICE difficulty, only needed combo work.

Normalphobic
AR +2
HP +1
OD +2
1/1 for the entire map is kinda boring, maybe spice it up a little?

Crazyphobic
00:22:033 (1,2,3) - Bad spacing
00:29:833 - Add circle?
00:46:433 - This would be more accurate to the music http://puu.sh/4MwE
00:58:333 - Add circle
00:58:433 - ^^
01:01:533 - ^^
01:04:733 - ^^
01:05:033 - ^^
01:08:299 - Maybe add circle? Not so sure on this though
01:19:233 - Definitely add a circle here

Taiko
HP +1?
Topic Starter
Mara
I'll update combo colors, when D33d updates his map.

I'll ask lepido about that HP +1

Thanks, Charles.
OzzyOzrock
Be warned, what I say it is might not have been his intention.
And quite frankly, I could be wrong.

[lepidon! - Taiko Oni]
00:21:099 (33,34,35,36) - 1/3
00:22:699 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - 1/3
00:24:699 (13,14) - 1/3
00:26:299 (21,22,23,24) - 1/3
00:29:099 (2,3,4,5) - 1/3*
00:57:899 (2,3,4,5) - 1/3*
01:01:133 (21,22,23,24) - 1/3*

* = I could be wrong. And may very well be.

I'd recommend asking him though~
lepidopodus
HP + 1 as I'm trying raising HP in my recent maps to 6.

I think 00:21:099 (33,34,35,36) are 1/3, so I fixed them. Others, I'm not quite sure yet. I think there are several more notes like that, so I'll check those things again as soon as I can.

Download: Hierophobic - Introduction (LunaticMara) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni].osu
D33d
Fixed the combos and approach rate. I'll admit that I was still a bit too used to making harder difficulties, for which combos tend not to last as long in a temporal sense.

Download: Hierophobic - Introduction (LunaticMara) [Deedophobic].osu
Topic Starter
Mara
Alright, uploaded changes.
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James2250
I take a random request from #modreqs for the first time in ages and it happens to be zelda.....awesome :P

-I suggest you make the dark green combo color into something slightly lighter, or it can be hard to see against the black background at times
-The background could be more colorful for a zelda related song, but up to you

Deedophobic:
-Looks good

Normalphobic:
-Sounds very monotone with basically no hitsounds (hoping you are still planning on adding some more) but everything else checks out nicely

lepidon! - Taiko Oni:
The volume actually sounds pretty low compared to the song at the moment, turn it up slightly more? (especially during the kiai)

Crazyphobic:
-Needs hitsoundsssss
00:41:233 - sounds odd without a note here
01:03:933 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing should be consistent between these 3

LunaticMara wrote:

because I think it sounds better without claps or whistles

Nope :P, needs something more to help keep it interesting for players (at least that's what I think) just a few claps in a rhythm like Easy has wouldn't hurt

What ever happened to my BAT star....oh well have a kudosu star~
Mukku
Normal with hitsound modding. If it is pure shit and you don't like, change things around a bit.

Download: Hierophobic - Introduction (LunaticMara) [Normalphobic].osu
D33d
I've fixed my difficulty at the start, because it had some weird spacings which made shit look wonky. I was sick of it. MY SHIT MUST BE PERFECT.

Download: Hierophobic - Introduction (LunaticMara) [Deedophobic].osu
lepidopodus
Fixed. Also, some 1/4 <--> 1/3.

And this post isn't that short orz

Download: Hierophobic - Introduction (LunaticMara) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni].osu
TicClick
Hitsounds help, as requested.
Well, you know why I added this spoiler.
Topic Starter
Mara
Added every damn .osu you guys uploaded.

I also refuse to change the BG because it's BG made by artist himself. It looks better that way IMO. But I did everything else you asked. @James
D33d
Yeah, there is no reason to change the background. It's a hardstyle track; not a Nintendo original.
Sallad4ever
Hi LunaticMara :D

[Deedophobic]
The only thing that I found strange from this diff is how you only give the whistle on the slider slide. For example:
00:17:633 (5) -
00:19:233 (1) -
I found it better if you at least give the start/end a whistle too just like what you did on:
00:37:233 (3) -
00:59:233 (2) - this one is very suitable with the music
And it's probably me being picky but I suggest you to make the whistle hitsound to be consistent. This rhythm you used might be a bit different, but the part after break is basically a loop so imo it'll be more interesting if you give the at least the same hitsound

[Normalphobic]
I'm actually fine with this using majority of 1/1 beat, mostly because I find the hitsound is pretty interesting. How you mix using normal - soft sound is very nice~
My suggestions for this diff are:
- Try using a normal - hitwhistle. From Deedophobic I found that it sounds great for this music, but using too many hitsound might make it bad so you may want to be careful
- Make the sliders more neat. For example on 00:25:233 (4), you can try and make it so the curve match with 00:23:633 (2)'s outline
01:34:433 (1) - The other 2 diffs use finish so maybe give this one too

[Crazyphobic]

00:16:033 (1,2) - could you make these so it have a better curve? maybe something like this (yeah I'm not very good at this either)
00:22:733 (x) - maybe add a note here. Because of the music I always thought 00:22:633 (2,3) is a 1/4 jump
00:31:233 (6) - imo it's better to either to stack this under 5 or unstack the previous circles. The current pattern doesn't look very neat
00:36:033 (1,2,3,4) - same as 00:16:033 (1,2) something like this?
00:39:633 (1) - add whistle at the start
01:19:633 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest to use 1.2x DS just like the previous 1/3 beat similar to this
I highly suggest to make the sliders more prettier

The other 3 diffs are great but unfortunately Crazyphobic diff are very messy. If you can make the pattern more prettier, please do so
Good Luck with your map amd ~star
Topic Starter
Mara
I suck at making good looking sliders :| I ignored those sliders for now, I'd like to get some help with them.

But everything else fix'd. Thanks.
Sallad4ever
if you want I can help you make them slider still, I am not as good as Krisom or Gonzvlo
Topic Starter
Mara
If you can show slider points of those what you made, I would be happy.

Or if you prefer sending .osu, that's alright too.
Sallad4ever
Here I've remade some of the curve sliders
Download: Hierophobic - Introduction (LunaticMara) [Crazyphobic].osu
I only change the sliders but it's better to double check in case I carelessly change something. No need for kudosu~
I hope this is good for you
Topic Starter
Mara
Better than good. Thanks a lot for helping!

Time to get MAT/BAT in here.
Lizbeth
Zelda<333

Crazyphobic
00:22:633 (2,3,4) - wrong spacing there, 3 and 4 shouldn't have same distance between them as 1 and 2. Should look like: http://puu.sh/5i40

Suggestions
00:10:733 (1) - move to prev red tick, I think sounds better~
00:13:933 (1) - same as above
00:17:133 (1) - ^
00:58:733 (2) - remove note
01:00:733 (1) - replace by a single circle at 01:00:833 -
01:01:533 - add note here?
01:13:833 - ^
01:17:633 (2) - End this slider on prev red tick
01:19:633 (1,2,3,4) - this sounds off

Other diffs are fine~

Prrs~
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