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Kanon Wakeshima - Kajitsu no Keikoku

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Kite
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Freitag, 12. August 2011 at 21:53:19

Artist: Kanon Wakeshima
Title: Kajitsu no Keikoku
Tags: lolitawork libretto kurai KuraiPettan wmfchris
BPM: 160
Filesize: 5068kb
Play Time: 02:59
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,05 stars, 136 notes)
  2. Kurai (4,7 stars, 408 notes)
  3. Normal (2,67 stars, 178 notes)
  4. Wmf's Taiko (4,89 stars, 1112 notes)
  5. yami (4,92 stars, 468 notes)
Download: Kanon Wakeshima - Kajitsu no Keikoku
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thanks Kurai for the great guest difficulty!

Enjoy playing~
Magicphoenix
=w=
Cyril Scarlet
;)
Norn_NNN
:D
Beren
CheekyPockyPro
Very good so far, please continue to make this. :D
DivX_old
lolcubes
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Kurai
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nimi
pretty mapset, loved the hitsounds :) have a star ~
(and i don't know what else to type for the message to be long enough, yay)
Topic Starter
Kite
thanks for irc modding wiinter :3

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Omega
Two IRC mods (Or one and a half. We got confused!)

Anyway, yes. Star. (Your map wasn't submitted at first mod) Kudosu star. EDIT: Woops. Don't have enough. EDITEDIT:Okay!
lolcubes
Some modding action.

[General]:
  1. I am not really a kiai fan and I like to see more mapsets without it, however I suggest kiai time: 02:29:019 - 02:53:016. It's the final chorus and the culmination of the song and placing it here would give a more epic feel.
[yami]:
  1. Maybe just rename to Hard? 2 Hards are allowed, and it's not really an insane map (even with AR8).
  2. 00:29:784 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Maybe use a normal soundset for these? (we talked about other stuff like this on irc atleast)
  3. 00:53:031 - Add a note with a finish and start the spinner 1/4 later?
  4. 01:04:280 (5,6,7) - Use normal sounds here? Beats.
  5. 01:10:654 (4) - This clap felt out of place. Either remove it or add it around in this section where it would fit, like this one does.
  6. 01:15:341 + 01:15:434 - Add 2 notes with whistles on top of the next slider? (and fix spacing a little) Follows the voice better, which you are doing here already.
  7. 01:17:028 (1) - Use normal set for the slider end and the next note? Beats.
  8. 01:23:402 (5) - Clap on start.
  9. 01:23:777 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Normal set for these? (might have to remove the whistles though)
  10. 02:34:268 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
  11. 02:56:578 (5) - Don't like this slider because (in my opinioin) more important music line got discarded. What I suggest is that you map a circle on it's spot, and then map a repeater at 02:56:765 which would repeat at 02:57:047 and return at 02:57:328 (which means discarding that circle on the last spot). Don't forget to place whistles on the slider.
[Kurai]:
  1. Unused timing sections
    01:18:533
    02:17:025
  2. Almost all timing sections are not snapped to the timeline ticks. Not a huge issue, however it would be nice to fix, especially if you decide to use custom claps like I described below (and the suggested kiai time).
  3. AR-1. Feels much nicer.
  4. 00:12:542 (1) - Remove new combo. (for consistency, or add it to 00:09:542 (6) if you think you really need a NC here, I don't think you do though)
  5. 00:18:166 (5) - New combo. (look at 02:04:277 (1)) Although I suggest you use it on (4) here instead actually (and one note earlier over there).
  6. 00:36:914 (1) - Remove this new combo, or place it on 00:36:539 (3) instead. It makes more sense because of the vocals. Also fix the spacing a little (lolnazi :D), so 1 grid right or something.
  7. 01:11:035 (2) - Finish on start?
  8. 01:17:034 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Use normal hitsounds for these? (you used it here 02:53:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6)) Also for consistency swap to normal for some notes after just like you did at the end if you can.
  9. 01:18:534 - Use soft custom set instead? Regular soft claps don't fit the song in the slightest bit imo. :D This also affects the rest of the map where the claps were used.
  10. 01:34:844 (3) - Maybe remove finish? Or use a whistle instead.
  11. 01:58:653 (1) - Don't think you really need this new combo, but up to you, it's not a bad reason to place it here but it screws with the hpdrain (although only a little, extra 5mm on the hpbar is not that meaningful).
  12. 02:11:027 (2) - Finish on start?
  13. 02:50:397 - This hole kinda confused me. Add a note with a clap. Sounds better too.
  14. 03:01:833 - Place this timing section right on the slider end. Lowering the volume here is a little weird if you spin lots of bonus.
[Normal]:
  1. Unused timing sections
    00:03:537
    00:06:537
    01:18:528
  2. 00:53:031 (1) - Maybe remove this finish? In the song such a sound is played on the spinner start, not the end. Up to you though, doesn't sound that bad.
  3. 01:03:530 (1) - Finish.
  4. 01:23:777 (3) - Spacing. Or, even better solution would be to rotate the 2 sliders before this one. Rotate the slider 1 by -4 degrees and slider 2 by 4 degrees. Now the whole combo has even spacing without much effort. Look here.
  5. 01:41:025 - Add a note with a finish and start the spinner just after it instead?
  6. 02:23:020 - Don't need this SV change.
  7. 02:59:015 - Add a note with a finish and start the spinner after it instead?
[Easy]:
  1. Unused timing sections
    00:06:537
    01:05:029
    01:17:028
    01:51:149
  2. 00:02:787 (2) - Finish on the arrow as well? (fits the music)
  3. 00:31:284 (4) - Finish at the end instead of a whistle.
  4. 00:38:033 (4) - Finish at the start. (consistency and musical reasons, look at 00:48:532 (3))
  5. 01:17:778 (1) - Remove finish.
  6. 01:24:527 (1) - Whistle at the end?
  7. 01:26:027 (2) - Whistle at the start?
  8. 02:08:022 (4) - Finish at the end?
  9. 02:59:015 - Just like in normal, add a note with a finish here and start the spinner right after it?
Amazing song. Nothing more to add. Probably not necessary to remove the unused timing sections, but if you want your mapset clean... :p
Pheon
This map is totally awesome, I can do the osu at least :D. Anyhow, perhaps this needs a taiko.
If you want that and if I can come up with something I'll tell ya.

Also, have a star~
Topic Starter
Kite
taiko would be cool :3

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Fight69
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[yami]

01:42:525 (1) - This clap sounds really weird for me, use a finish instead ?

[Kurai]

Why this diff have a different offset ? o.ô
You should try to use the custom HS like in the others diff.

Mod in french o/

00:18:166 (5) - New combo.
00:18:916 (1) - Si tu as fixé le truc précédent, no new combo.
01:34:844 (3,4) - Inverse le whistle et le finish de ces deux cercles la (c'est-à-dire, whistle sur (3) et finish sur (4).
02:57:896 (1,2,3,4,5) - J'aime pas vraiment cette pattern, fait un truc dans ce style : http://puu.sh/44Fn

[Normal]

01:41:119 (1) - Same as in yami, use a finish because this clap sounds weird.
02:06:147 - Add a clap on this tick.
02:06:522 (2) - Delete the clap at the end of this slider.
02:12:146 - Add a clap on this tick.
02:12:521 (1) - Delete the clap at the end of this slider.

[Easy]

01:41:025 (1) - This spinner, once again.

Great job, ~Starz'd !
Topic Starter
Kite
Thanks for the mod Fight~
Fixed offset on Kurai's diff
Although I didnt change the claps in my diffs orz they sound fine to meeee.. sorry
Kurai

lolcubes wrote:

[Kurai]:
  1. Unused timing sections
    01:18:533 I use this one now :P
    02:17:025 Removed
  2. Almost all timing sections are not snapped to the timeline ticks. Not a huge issue, however it would be nice to fix, especially if you decide to use custom claps like I described below (and the suggested kiai time). This is not really necessary, but I added the kiai.
  3. AR-1. Feels much nicer.
  4. 00:12:542 (1) - Remove new combo. (for consistency, or add it to 00:09:542 (6) if you think you really need a NC here, I don't think you do though) ok
  5. 00:18:166 (5) - New combo. (look at 02:04:277 (1)) Although I suggest you use it on (4) here instead actually (and one note earlier over there). ok
  6. 00:36:914 (1) - Remove this new combo, or place it on 00:36:539 (3) instead. It makes more sense because of the vocals. Also fix the spacing a little (lolnazi :D), so 1 grid right or something. ok
  7. 01:11:035 (2) - Finish on start? ok
  8. 01:17:034 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Use normal hitsounds for these? (you used it here 02:53:584 (1,2,3,4,5,6)) Also for consistency swap to normal for some notes after just like you did at the end if you can. Yeah
  9. 01:18:534 - Use soft custom set instead? Regular soft claps don't fit the song in the slightest bit imo. :D This also affects the rest of the map where the claps were used. Sorry but I like them ;~; And Even if the custom HS fit the song, I won't use them.
  10. 01:34:844 (3) - Maybe remove finish? Or use a whistle instead. Ok
  11. 01:58:653 (1) - Don't think you really need this new combo, but up to you, it's not a bad reason to place it here but it screws with the hpdrain (although only a little, extra 5mm on the hpbar is not that meaningful). ok
  12. 02:11:027 (2) - Finish on start? ok
  13. 02:50:397 - This hole kinda confused me. Add a note with a clap. Sounds better too. Mh, you're right
  14. 03:01:833 - Place this timing section right on the slider end. Lowering the volume here is a little weird if you spin lots of bonus. ok
Thanks for your suggestions :)

Fight69 wrote:

[Kurai]

Why this diff have a different offset ? o.ô Kite already fixed it
You should try to use the custom HS like in the others diff. Nope I prefer don't use them ;~;

Mod in french o/

00:18:166 (5) - New combo. Déjà fix dans le mod de lolcubes
00:18:916 (1) - Si tu as fixé le truc précédent, no new combo. Si un new combo est nécessaire là :O
01:34:844 (3,4) - Inverse le whistle et le finish de ces deux cercles la (c'est-à-dire, whistle sur (3) et finish sur (4). J'ai juste supprimé le finish sur (3), un finish sur (4) sonne bizarre donc non
02:57:896 (1,2,3,4,5) - J'aime pas vraiment cette pattern, fait un truc dans ce style : http://puu.sh/44Fn Hum, Je comprend pourquoi tu ne l'aimes pas trop car théoriquement il devrait y avoir une note à 02:58:078 mais j'ai décidé de ne pas en mettre sinon ça rend trop confus, de cette manière c'est lisible ça suis bien la musique. Si d'autres personnes me font la même réflexions, j’envisagerais de modifier, mais pour l'instant non.
Merci pour le mod :P

________________________________

Sorry Kite but I don't want to use the custom clap :/
Download: Kanon Wakeshima - Kajitsu no Keikoku (Kite) [Kurai].osu
wmfchris
sorry I'm late>_<~

*aabc is modding taiko diff while I'm finding taiko BG.

Download: Kanon Wakeshima - Kajitsu no Keikoku (Kite) [Wmf's Taiko].osu
aabc271
Hi ~
Here is my Taiko mod ~
Mod request by Wmfchris

Blue~ Critical issues, you must fix this
Purple~ I think you should fix this
Pink~ Suggestions only

[General]

I'm quite sure that the timing will be better by using the setting below :
  • BPM 160.000
    Offset 527
I got fewer 100s on the Taiko diff. It could be just me, but I feel better with this timing~

[Wmf's Taiko]

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

00:35:408 - ( 17 ) Red note ?

00:42:345 - ( 59 ~ 61 ) ooo ?

00:52:750 - ( 126 ) Blue note ?

01:09:341 - ( 237 ~ 238 ) o o ?

01:09:904 - ( 239 ~ 240 ) ^

01:10:279 - ( 241 ) Delete this note ?

01:17:028 - ( 285 ) Blue note ?

01:20:965 - ( 307 ~ 313 ) ooooooo ?

01:23:402 - ( 327 ~ 331 ) ooooo ?

01:26:402 - ( 347 ~ 353 ) ooooo o o ?

02:31:269 - ( 18 ) Blue note ?

02:36:893 - ( 57 ~ 67 ) ooooooo ooo o ?

The map is nice ~

Nice song & BG www

Rating : 8.5/10

Star and good luck ~ ;)
wmfchris
all fixed

*_*
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Download: Kanon Wakeshima - Kajitsu no Keikoku (Kite) [Wmf's Taiko].osu

Topic Starter
Kite
Thanks, the timing is fixed already :3
only 8,5? hah
Thanks though :P
Doomsday
Yo yo :)

  1. Timing is ever-so-slightly early I think. I'd go with +4 on the current offset: (I got offset: 534)
[EASY]

Not sure how it got this star rating. feels like it should be higher

On the whole, it feels pretty solid. My only real quiff is that even though it isn't that fast, there are not many little breaks inbetween beats, there are constant beats for large sections of the map which can be troublesome for a new player, which it's aimed at of course, having to readjust their hand and such. parts like from 00:19:284 - 01:02:034 there is always something the player must hit, with breaks no bigger than a single 1/1. Perhaps you could create a few little gaps for players to readjust their grip and recover in these long sections? (I'd suggest breaking up the parts with constant hitcircles, as in things like 01:54:909 (2,3,4)).

And one other little thing:
00:05:034 (1) - This slider felt odd with the flow, how the song starts to pick up halfway through this slider. feels a little odd. I would suggest removing the repeat so it ends on that slider end. Nothing big though, just bugged me.

[NORMAL]

And same with this difficulty's star rating. Feels like a 3+ star map to me :P

This is a nice 'n' fun difficulty. Does feel a bit hard for a normal difficulty though, but it's nice 'n' fun so you can't really argue. It's not so hard it might as well be a hard though, and the short-ishspacing helps somewhat. (even if it's quite close. those 1/2 rhythms are quite nasty for this kind of difficulty), and settles well in the difficulty spread. In that case, I'll let it slide. and apart from that, nothing really bothered me.

[KURAI]

00:02:780 (1,2) - I see why you made these sliders come in earlier/later than they should, for the symmetrical pattern, and since they're sliders they can be hit, but it still doesn't sit too well, and sound odd. Perhaps you could rearrange these in another pattern that hits those music cues better? (I'm assuming they're intentional here. If they aren't, the first slider ends a bit early, and the second slider starts early).

Apart from that though, lookin' good. Nicely done and fun to play to boot.

[YAMI]

I had great fun with this difficulty, Really nice. I'm pretty happy with how it is now0, so nothing to report really, apart from one little hitsound I noticed:
00:52:092 (2 2) - shouldn't there be a clap on the slider end? Think you missed that one D:

[WMF'S TAIKO]

Looks solid from a technical standpoint. looks like a solid taiko difficulty too even though it isn't exactly up my street with it's patterns. But that's just me and my opinion though. Looks alright.

Very nice. the easier difficulties are a little on the hard side, but not so far that they don't feel like their respective difficulties. Perhaps a bit of tuning could be done here and there to perfect it, but on the whole they're solid, and the harder difficulties are very nice. I really enjoyed those. A nice, solid map you got here.

A well deserved star from me o/
Topic Starter
Kite
Updated the timing and the hitsound on yami diff.
Gonna keep the Easy as it is though, I guess.

Thanks for the mod~ waiting for Kurai now :D

Edit: Kurai is gone for 2 weeks so I fixed it myself... I hope it's ok ;-;

should be good to go now
Doomsday
I'll take that. Bubbled!

(and another bubble added. I'd clear some but I'm away for the weekend after this post so :(. Don't kill me BATs!)
Garven
All is forgiven, Doomsy. :D

[General]
Change tag from "libreto" to "libretto" in Kurai difficulty

[Easy]
00:23:409 (2) - This whistle on the slider slide intentional?
00:45:534 (4) - I really don't recommend notes under slider ends for easy difficulties. It can be difficult to figure out the rhythm compared to normal stacks.
01:24:159 (7) - ^
02:03:909 (5) - ^
02:38:034 (1) - This whistle on the slider slide intentional?

[Normal]
00:54:909 (1) - This is fairly soon after a spinner for a Normal difficulty
02:29:034 (1) - ^

[Kurai]
00:34:284 (5,6,7) - Move these down and right one grid due to stacking
02:34:284 (1) - Add finish to end
Topic Starter
Kite
Should be all fixed except the stack in Kurais diff

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Garven
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Sakura

Garven wrote:

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Lol'd, anyways Congratz Kite
kurohana
congratz :)
wmfchris
congrats : D


(I think my post here is quite constructive, isn't it : >
Topic Starter
Kite
Ah!!
Thanks everyone :3
Thanks for ranking this Garven, didn't expect it :P
Mafiamaster
Sweet, grats Kite~
lolcubes
Hurray, awesome! :D
acidapple
I have the weirdest boner right now
Kurai
Gratz for the rank \o/
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