Apparently a lot of people think my actions have been scummy. Remember, this is my first mafia game. Which essentially means that I've been trying to do things by the book (aka mafiascum wiki). Random voting, FoS, suspecting lurkers and bandwagoning- this is the stuff I read about and tried to emulate. And when people started jumping on me for doing that, I instinctively defended it because I really didn't have much else to rely on. Maybe I should have been more quiet as a newbie, but as someone else mentioned I was probably a bit overeager to play.

Anyways, I'm still suspicious of Lilac and Kiddo-kun though not enough to vote at this point. Plus it would probably be seen as trying to divert attention away from me and get me lynched.

Two wrote:

akrolsmir: why are you lurking?

Because my play was pretty bad and each post led someone else to suspect me, so I decided to shut up and listen to what others had to say about it.

@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.



Would like to hear from:

animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir


Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?

well then

unvote, vote: Two

foulcoon wrote:

@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.



Would like to hear from:

animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir


Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?

conveniently leaving LadySuburu out, I'm on to you

hi Wojjan

Lybydose wrote:

foulcoon wrote:

@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.



Would like to hear from:

animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir


Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?

conveniently leaving LadySuburu out, I'm on to you

wat

I used Two's list of people not voting... LadySuburu isn't on it. Is LS voting kiddo? There at least was an FoS or HoS so I already have my answer?

Vote Count:
akrolsmir (5) - adam2046, foulcoon, Kiddo-Kun, Wojjan, Two
Kiddo-Kun (1) - LadySuburu
Two (1) - Lybydose

Not Voting (5)- Lilac, animask, Rantai, akrolsmir, Quaraezha

akrolsmir is at L-2!

foulcoon wrote:

wat

I used Two's list of people not voting... LadySuburu isn't on it. Is LS voting kiddo? There at least was an FoS or HoS so I already have my answer?

I assume he was saying that you left out LadySuburu with your "who do you find suspicious?" question, but you can never be too sure with the challenged.

I'm gonna be honest, right now I feel like foulcoon, Wojjan, and LadySuburu are the most likely to be mafia.

Oh, you wanted to know why I haven't voted yet?

I don't really have enough confidence or information to make a decent vote just yet...

Firstly, I've been keeping track of the votes and unvotes. (No, I just looked at Two's post) I have a general
suspicion on everyone who has been messing with the votes. (Mostly Lybydose) If Two and Lybydose were mafia
they could be easily be using a strategy of some kind with voting. I've noticed that Two hasn't said anything to Lybydose
about his votes. I get the feeling that adam was also onto this. Seems a bit fishy/scummy, but I'm not really sure where they
would be going with this...

akrolsmir seems to be putting in information out there, but none of it seems useful. There seems to be a lot of focus on defending
himself. His behavior seems to be really defensive which seems to be an important trait.

Lilac is probably thinking that Day 1 is the most dangerous and reckless of all the days. You should realize that when you're pro-town,
you always have a high chance of being lynched anyways. This kind of behavior seems different coming from you... FoS Lilac

animask wrote:

Firstly, I've been keeping track of the votes and unvotes. (No, I just looked at Two's post) I have a general
suspicion on everyone who has been messing with the votes. (Mostly Lybydose) If Two and Lybydose were mafia
they could be easily be using a strategy of some kind with voting. I've noticed that Two hasn't said anything to Lybydose
about his votes.

1. mafia can't talk during the day
2. masons can
3. I've actually commented on his last two votes, maybe even all of his votes who knows
4. I'm not a mason

More on Lilac (since I FoS'd him)

When he made this post:

Lilac wrote:

Rantai wrote:

Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I know it's in most people's minds that it is but I really did it in order to get a good grasp of Day 1. However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.

Shouldn't he have been thinking that in the first place? If you were a townie you can't be helpful if you don't say anything.

Two wrote:

1. mafia can't talk during the day
2. masons can
3. I've actually commented on his last two votes, maybe even all of his votes who knows
4. I'm not a mason

You wanted people to use votes instead of FoS/HoS. He used votes instead of FoS/HoS.
Did he say anything about you?

I really don't understand your question

Two wrote:

I really don't understand your question

He hasn't said anything at all. Has he?

search.php?author_id=64501&sr=posts&t=59742

you tell me

Okay then, do you find Lybydose suspicious in any way?

Can you just tell us where you're going with this animask?

of course it's suspicious that he votes entirely without reason (you can't do that unless you are as smart as me dawg) and has yet to post anything constructive at all other than "double posts are better than editing" and "WIFOM is for smart people"

@foulcoon, I got everything I needed for now...

My "plan" is to ask questions to people "without" pressure so they somehow slip up.

you've brought me to the brink of tears animask

really

@Two, just one more question. Do you think I'm suspicious of you or not?

oh my god he's serious isn't he

well judging by what you just said and your inability to recognize emotion-driven "logic", yes

I knew coming into this game that even mentioning your name could bite me in the ass, since you have what I think is known in this game as a "u suck" mentality. If you remember, I genuinely thought you were trolling me the last game we played together, since even when faced with irrefutable logic, you would still vote for me.

Vote: Lilac

I'm not really suspicous of you, but I do hate your guts tremendously.

lets buddy up then, friend ^_^

unvote, vote Lilac

Kiddo and Lyby are my top suspicions, so no unvote.

Nothing has gone on that I feel like commenting on, so yeah.

FoS: Two for seeming like he has humor and also making me laugh earlier.

It's natural to hate. Nothing wrong about that.

However, I don't want to get lynched over stupid reasons like that. Answering foulcoon, the person I'm currently most suspicious of is Kiddo. However, my vote now would only just make me more suspicious anyway.

Vote: Kiddo-kun

Come at me, bro.

I'll keep this brief, got to go.

foulcoon wrote:

Would like to hear from:
---
Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?

akrolsmir and Lilac.

- Hiding behind the newbie excuse, attacking lurkers under the guise of "following the book'. Not buying it right now, I still believe they are just convenient excuses.

- Purposely avoided posting to 'get a grasp of things',

I'll probably contribute more but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.

That one line grinds me like sandpaper.

You're right Two, I've done nothing aside from pointing out how your logic is complete horseshit.

Since we're living in the magical world where any time Two is wrong, it didn't really happen, I guess that means I've done nothing.

well except for unvote, Vote: Lilac

I guess since we're also living in the magical world of WIFOM not existing, I can use horrible logic like "Lilac is clearly town because no mafia would ever say that he'd probably contribute more but doesn't really want to post until Day 2." or assume anyone that dies at night wasn't killed by the people he suspects, because you know, it would be too obvious for the mafia to kill off the people voting for them.

Well now that I've cleared arbitrarily cleared Lilac, I guess unvote.










































Just kidding

vote: Lilac

His recent statements are even more scummy.

I'm still suspicious of Kiddo-kun at this point, but Vote: Lilac, for trying to shift attention away from you without really providing defense for yourself. Or a case of any kind, really- I didn't really see an argument against Kiddo-kun in there. You did lampshade the fact that it would be suspicious but I think that starts to reach into WIFOM territory.

As for myself, Rantai- well, I AM a newbie, how else would you expect me to play?

Lybydose wrote:

Since we're living in the magical world where any time Two is wrong, it didn't really happen, I guess that means I've done nothing.

prettyyyyy sure your post history was barren, but if you'd like to correct me and point out where there was real substance, go ahead

also this lilac shift is shady as hell and I'd be suspicious of even myself if I didn't know better

First, he's been pretty quiet, though for some reason people seem to think I shouldn't go after lurkers. I still don't feel he adequately explained the opportunistic jump on the bandwagon, which overall just seems like he doesn't care who gets lynched as long as the day gets over and it's not him.

Well at the beginning of the game he started to piss me off with all the random votes that had weak reasoning. But now he's starting to seem less like a scum but more like a newbie trying to get a grasp the concept of this game. Since I don't find you suspicious anymore: unvote.

Look guys, I'm not lying when I said I wasn't mafia. In fact, this is the best role I've had in ages.

I mean, though I'm disappointed in Two's change of mood when he plays this now, probably a change from ragequitting that Mafia game, it's also fair to say I didn't actually have any suspicion of Kiddo to begin with. (Two, I shifted my mood because you did. ) Aren't you happy?

I'm not going to defend myself because there is no point. My lynching today will obviously mean that someone in the Mafia has voted for me already for being suspicious and if they haven't, they're probably the dumbest person ever because it's FREE KILL. I'm pretty sure that there's 3 in this game and that at least one of them has already jumped on me though, if not more.

Lybydose, there are no such thing as scummy statements because they're all subjective as hell.

Also, LS, that's probably the best way I've seen you play Mafia all this time. By doing nothing~

Bleh, this ain't going to work now that I re-read the topic.

Considering that there are 3 Mafia in this game, I am going to cross of foulcoon, Lybydose, Kiddo-Kun, akrolsmir and Rantai out.

1. LadySuburu - Even since I met you, I felt you were an odd person. I even told you that I could never, ever read you. It's intriguing and I hope this doesn't come back to bite me.

2. animask - You're different. You're trying to sound more serious and that's what ticks me off. I liked the old animask...but I'm sorry it just seems odd. I mean, a more serious animask! Wow, a lot of people have changed.

3. adam - You went...silent...for 6 whole pages... Are you serious? akrolsmir even try to back up the claim...Unless he didn't do it right.

4. Quaraezha - Why join if you're not contributing? You're as useless as me. Though you're mainly town when you get lynched D1, I'd really laugh/cry if you were actually Mafia though.

5. Wojjan - I never liked you...Actually, I did when you started that TTYD project. I think I might do a song but the point stands. I don't like you. You hardly do anything, you troll and yet people respect you for that. I assume it's your past history which does that considering your upper most role as the cult.

6. Two - Same with you, you're different. You're acting nothing like before and if that's how you play mafia, then I congratulate you because you will be the best at it. Not to mention your previous history of gaming too! You are someone to be feared.

What else do you want me to do to say I'm town?

Lilac wrote:

I'm not going to defend myself because there is no point. My lynching today will obviously mean that someone in the Mafia has voted for me already for being suspicious and if they haven't, they're probably the dumbest person ever because it's FREE KILL. I'm pretty sure that there's 3 in this game and that at least one of them has already jumped on me though, if not more.

If you're actually town you're not making it much better for yourself by being a defeatist. Town should be trying to stay alive and lynch scum, not actively helping the mafia lynch them.

Lilac wrote:

Considering that there are 3 Mafia in this game, I am going to cross of foulcoon, Lybydose, Kiddo-Kun, akrolsmir and Rantai out.

What?

Lilac wrote:

akrolsmir even try to back up the claim...Unless he didn't do it right.

What?

And here I was all ready to accuse Lilac of being a jester.

@adam Go back and read your last post (you know, 5 pages ago?), though I agree that Lilac's statement is pretty ambiguously worded.

I agree there is probably 3 mafia using the general 1 mafia : 4 town ratio, but I would also like to know how you ruled myself and the other people out Lilac.

Yeah, it was pretty bad wording. I have disgraced myself.

adam2046 wrote:

If you're actually town you're not making it much better for yourself by being a defeatist. Town should be trying to stay alive and lynch scum, not actively helping the mafia lynch them.

Probably too far gone for that. Also, I hate when people use that saying.

animask wrote:

Vote: Lilac

I'm not really suspicous of you, but I do hate your guts tremendously.

Two even followed your reason. WHY TWO?!? WHHHHY MUST YOU STOOP TO ANIMASK'S LEVEL!?!?!? Hate isn't a reason to kill! Only to seriously maim!

akrolsmir wrote:

Vote: Lilac, for trying to shift attention away from you without really providing defense for yourself. Or a case of any kind, really-

Answered you.

Quaraezha wrote:

I don't vote quite often but I'll bandwagon for now
Vote: Lilac

Typical.

Lybydose wrote:

vote: Lilac

His recent statements are even more scummy.

What?

Vote Count:
Lilac (5) - animask, Two, Lybydose, akrolsmir, Quaraezha

akrolsmir (3) - adam2046, foulcoon, Wojjan

Kiddo-Kun (2) - LadySuburu, Lilac

Not Voting (2) - Rantai, Kiddo-Kun

Lilac is at L-2!

Thus concludes how I feel about the last 5-6 pages.
I really couldn't be bothered dealing with all that.

akrolsmir wrote:

@adam Go back and read your last post (you know, 5 pages ago?), though I agree that Lilac's statement is pretty ambiguously worded.

Okay I get it now. I ask you a question, you answer the question, I am satisfied that that is how you feel about the subject even though I disagree. Lilac somehow expects me to start a long useless argument on the subject.

Lilac wrote:

Probably too far gone for that.

Stop doing that.

Lilac wrote:

Also, I hate when people use that saying.

The saying about how to actually play mafia? Namely that the point is actually lynching mafia?

unless you're mafia

adam wrote:

Lilac somehow expects me to start a long useless argument on the subject.

What? I did?



Also to answer foulcoon.

foulcoon: To quote adam. META META META META META. You don't really play mafia like this (as I've seen on one previous game. You're more aggressive.), unless of course you've changed just like a lot of people have in this game.

Doc: Ehh, his random voting spree doesn't sound like it has much basis. Though he seems to have voted on the basis of using other people's arguments, I'm pretty sure he's being lazy and not doing things like he's done before... In other words, META META META META META META META META META META.

akrolsmir: Playing by the book, maybe it's the newbie charm that leads me to think that people who are new to the game are not necessarily mafia at first...This is more of looking at the setup and trying to read into the host but hell that ain't going to work. Anyone that kinda leans towards town is town for me at this point in time.

Also, I like dealing with things being certain, it leads towards less WIFOM and more of having a shot at trying to get Mafia.

Rantai: ...............He's so bloody neutral. Let me meta this guy.

Wow, damn. He actually plays pretty similar for neutral, town and mafia...... But it's just my gut feeling he isn't Mafia...

Oh yeah.

Unvote

Lilac wrote:

I'm not lying when I said I wasn't mafia. In fact, this is the best role I've had in ages.

Lilac wrote:

I'm not going to defend myself because there is no point.

Lilac wrote:

However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.

have you been drinking animask juice or something

and fyi you misunderstood the whole hate thing, animask was directing that at me

I've already explained myself...

Omnomnom, juice.

so lilac who would you most like to see die

You, because I love you.

your fake answers are making it really difficult for me to justify my reasons for thinking you aren't mafia

I don't really have a strong sense on who to kill yet. I'm leaning towards LS but we've still got 4 more days to discuss this and I would really like to see how this day progresses.

And yeah, I sadly have to go now.

Lilac wrote:

I don't really have a strong sense on who to kill yet. I'm leaning towards LS but we've still got 4 more days to discuss this and I would really like to see how this day progresses.

I was considering ladysuburu too

and I'm now wondering why rantai just lurked and left after all of these posts

Two wrote:

and I'm now wondering why rantai just lurked and left after all of these posts

Because I just got home from my practicals and still reading (forgive me if I'm slow).

Double postin'

As for myself, Rantai- well, I AM a newbie, how else would you expect me to play?

By not using the fact you're a newbie to defend yourself. Take it how you like, I thinks it's a weak way out.


Anyway I'm a bit less suspicious of Lilac at this moment. While it's all WIFOM and blah blah blah, his softclaim of an aux role gives me a small amount of leeway for his willingness to stay quiet.

Still don't like the fact he had to be called out to leap out of that mind set though, I'm keeping my eye on you.


That said, Vote: akrolsmir you're the only one left on my list, coupled with the fact you jumped onto the bandwagon, you pulled omgus votes and you're still adamant on hiding behind your newbie status, you stand out more than Lilac right now, to me.

Lilac wrote:

5. Wojjan - I never liked you...Actually, I did when you started that TTYD project. I think I might do a song but the point stands. I don't like you. You hardly do anything, you troll and yet people respect you for that. I assume it's your past history which does that considering your upper most role as the cult.

/wrists

Yeah I'm good with a Lilac lynch

vote: Lilac

I forgot to unvote

but I'm only gonna vote again if a bandwagon is started on one of these people:
LadySuburu
adam2046
Wojjan
foulcoon
Quaraezha

Two wrote:

adam2046

Why? D:
I thought we was tight, yo.

Two wrote:

I forgot to unvote

but I'm only gonna vote again if a bandwagon is started on one of these people:
LadySuburu
adam2046
Wojjan
foulcoon
Quaraezha

>pick half of the names

> odds are one of them is scum

> see I was right

I don't like the Lilac bandwagon. Mainly since I've talked to Lilac enough that none of the behavior seems really out of the ordinary to me.

Might as well post my impressions of players.



Two: The only way I can read Two without always seeing him as Mafia is by meta. That being said, other than a few posts he seems to be acting pretty much as normal. - Town read.

animask: Actions seem slightly abnormal, but I don't see anything suspicious here. Neutral read.

akrolsmir: Never played with him before. Uses mafiascum newbie guide, and doesn't come off as suspicious to me. Neutral read.

LadySuburu: I haven't posted much. I don't post much in a lot of my games. When I have something that I feel is important to say, I'll say it. I don't like making filler posts with no content. (That doesn't mean that I haven't sometime in the past. I just don't like to do it.)

adam2046: Hasn't posted too much, but his posts are just about normal for him. (Other than one weird use of color for some reason.) Read: Slightly town.

foulcoon: Seems about normal, getting an odd feeling from him but nothing really major. Neutral read.

Kiddo: Shows up only after I vote him to get him in here, makes a scummy post, and follows it with another scummy post (excuse to vote? Slip there?). Follows it with a post trying to explain away the last post's scummy feel. (Which the post makes it seem like he was voting entirely based off of foul's reasonings alone.) Scum read.

Wojjan: Seems about normal for Wojjan. Neutral read.

Lybydose: Pretty much all but one of his posts are devoid of any sort of actual content. Random vote hopping like it's the new fad. Scum read.

Rantai: Based on what I know about Rantai: Slightly Town

Quar: Seems about normal for him but his statement of "I don't vote quite often but I'll bandwagon for now" gave me a bad feeling. Read: Neutral but leaning slightly scum.

Lilac: Talking with Lilac as often as I do, I don't think he's scum. However, I will post that him saying "I don't really have a strong sense on who to kill yet." does bug me. Still, my read is slightly town.


Oh, and I'm still staying with my vote on Kiddo.

@Rantai: I don't think I've really been bandwagoning or omgus. The only apparent omgus would be for Two, but I had no idea what he was like or what to expect and in a vacuum his posts looked suspicious. I guess you could accuse me of bandwagoning on Lilac, but I did point him out earlier before anyone started voting.

Anyways, Lilac's convinced me with his posts, at least to Unvote. That said, I was watching to see who would try to get him lynched. Vote: Wojjan your vote feels like omgus without any content, why bring him to L-1 in spite of Lilac's recent posts without providing any justification whatsoever?

Where's animask?

akrolsmir wrote:

Vote: Wojjan your vote feels like omgus without any content, why bring him to L-1 in spite of Lilac's recent posts without providing any justification whatsoever?

Because everything that's worth saying has been said, his posts have scum written all over and in a last desperate plea he gives us an "analysis" of all the players, especially mine being off-topic and riddled with misplaced pathos

these things kind of go without saying but then again you're new

Actually, your analysis was just mainly meta... Plus the fact that I wish you were like that person I knew a year ago...

But yes, this is Mafia after all.

I didn't make an analysis

Lilac wrote:

akrolsmir: Playing by the book, maybe it's the newbie charm that leads me to think that people who are new to the game are not necessarily mafia at first...This is more of looking at the setup and trying to read into the host but hell that ain't going to work. Anyone that kinda leans towards town is town for me at this point in time.

akrolsmir: Never played with him before. Uses mafiascum newbie guide, and doesn't come off as suspicious to me. Neutral read.

Apparently akrols went from town to neutral in one page.

BETTER STEP UP YOUR GEAR LAD, MEAN OL' LILAC GONNA GET YA

LadySuburu wrote:

Kiddo: Shows up only after I vote him to get him in here, makes a scummy post, and follows it with another scummy post (excuse to vote? Slip there?). Follows it with a post trying to explain away the last post's scummy feel. (Which the post makes it seem like he was voting entirely based off of foul's reasonings alone.) Scum read.

Two, why aren't you considering Kiddo in your list of people you're going to vote on? Do you think this argument isn't true, or that it doesn't hold enough merit for Kiddo to be scum on its own?

Kiddo-Kun wrote:

I'm just saying. A lot of his post are just him jumping at people will silly accusations.

Also, I guess my other post is very unclear and I guess it gave off a very scummy vibe. What I meant was "foulcoon had a nice point, and I agree with that."

I don't like this post at all. Top dollar if you can figure out the riddle.

Quaraezha wrote:

Alright, finally had the time to read all the posts (Rushed it though)
Currently at my School's Library and internet is kinda slow, so I won't quote anyposts for now.
I'll just post whatever I can and remember for now.

1.
Nobody seems to be protecting akrolsmir at the moment since most are attacking him.
So if akrolsmir is really Mafia, another Mafia wouldn't normally attack him as well, especially in Day 1.
If that's the case, the other Mafia members are luerkers, since they haven't protected/attacked anyone yet.

2.
I find it really awkward being (somehow) protected by Two,
but I guess that was just to convince akrolsmir of my playstyle.
Two has always been the type to make brutal (?) posts, and that's just Two being Two,
I can't really tell if he's Town or Mafia atm.
Although, he seems to be more aggressive and protective in this game to the previous ones I've played with him,
not sure why. But that's just my opinions.

3.
So about me being active in the other forums except this one.
The other threads aren't serious as Mafia Games, and I wasn't really in the mood to play Mafia or think too hard.
And animask, about me not joining anymore Mafia Games, that's silly.
I'm here for the same reason you are, just to add more characters.
It's fun to have a Mafia Game with different kinds of people.

Well, that's all I can say for now, I have classes in a few minutes.
I'll just add my other thoughts later when I get home or whatever.

1. Bullshit reasoning, WIFOM around the clock. Good mafia players don't want to fall out of tone and bandwagon right along like pretty little sheep.

2. You use seven lines to say "Two: meta's a nulltell"

Pretty long post for so little input. Love the fluff, Q

Unvote
Vote: Wojjan


everyone is mafia now?

Wojjan wrote:

Two, why aren't you considering Kiddo in your list of people you're going to vote on? Do you think this argument isn't true, or that it doesn't hold enough merit for Kiddo to be scum on its own?

cause the people I listed seem more likely than he does to me, on top of the fact that even if they aren't mafia they allow a lot more dots to be connected

if you want to know why I listed you, it's because you seem to be acting like you did day 3 or 4 or whatever in the one werewolf game where I wrote a giant fake "rolled is a werewolf" post

I actually bounced that idea off rolled and he didn't agree, but what does he know

also this seems like a bandwagon so vote: Wojjan

Wojjan wrote:

akrolsmir: Never played with him before. Uses mafiascum newbie guide, and doesn't come off as suspicious to me. Neutral read.

Apparently akrols went from town to neutral in one page.

I didn't say that second quote...LS did...

Vote: Wojjan You played like this in the first mafia game I was in. The only one where I survived until Lylo.

Also, everyone has changed...It's pretty scary.

foulcoon wrote:

Unvote
Vote: Wojjan


everyone is mafia now?

Didn't even vote anyone. I want answers, not a lynch.

Lilac wrote:

However, I don't want to get lynched over stupid reasons like that. Answering foulcoon, the person I'm currently most suspicious of is Kiddo. However, my vote now would only just make me more suspicious anyway.

Vote: Kiddo-kun

Come at me, bro.

Voting on the other bandwagon so he won't get lynched instead

Lilac wrote:

Vote: Wojjan You played like this in the first mafia game I was in. The only one where I survived until Lylo.

Voting on the other bandwagon so he won't get lynched instead

yeahhhhhh

you went from everyone is town to everyone is scum pretty quickly there.

I really enjoyed seeing rantai tell someone in that other game to "start talking" recently, given his presence in this thread

Now, now no need for personal attacks.

Referring to my posting for today or referring to my overall posting for the entire game? If the latter, I'll explain it again...

If for today, I don't have much to say.

Basically all I see is Wojjan making 4 posts with the content of one consolidation post, expressing his/her opinions of those posts. LS stating what she thinks about each player and a bandwagon on Wojjan. I still don't believe using meta to make a vote is right, but that's a difference in opinion.

Also;

I guess you could accuse me of bandwagoning on Lilac, but I did point him out earlier before anyone started voting.

Ok. I missed that line, but it still doesn't clear you due to the rest in my eyes.

I don't see it as a personal attack

oh and prod everyone please

I'm here, just don't have anything worth posting right now.

Two wrote:

oh and prod everyone please

I wasn't aware you could do that.

foulcoon wrote:

I'm here, just don't have anything worth posting right now.

do you really think I'm going to list everyone who hasn't posted in the last 24 hours when it's the majority

and do you both really have no comments on anyone even if it's not wojjan? or are you tactically withholding your opinions

Here.

is that a placeholder post, are you trying to make me rage, or are you really just intent on hurting town?

I swear there might as well be 6 mafia in some of these games

Alright alright. I get the feeling everyone was waiting for someone else to do something substantial.

I'm keeping my vote on Wojjan because I'm not satisfied with his explanation, plus his recent barrage of posts looks kind of desperate and lacking a focus.

Regarding non-Wojjan people- again, basically everyone's been lurking so I have almost no idea what to think. Prod: Animask in particular since I specifically asked for him last time (a day and a half ago) and he still hasn't responded. I think Kiddo is still shady- nothing he's done counteracts my impression that he doesn't care what's going on as long as he's safe. Oh right, and Rantai's apparently still suspicious of me.

Also, what do we have? Like less than two days left?

Oh, did you want to ask me something?

I didn't respond because I thought you wanted me to update you on any new suspicions or thoughts.

All I can say right now is that I think the bandwagon voting seems a bit suspicious so I'm watching that.

I don't really get how everyone is so easily voting without adding much of their own thoughts into their vote.
(I could be over generalizing...)

I don't really see how Wojjan was suspicious.

If you really want me to post something, I'll get to it after I take a rest for tonight.

It honestly just feels like the day is being dragged out.

can we get a votecount? This game is boring.

Vote Count:
Lilac (4) - animask Lybydose Quaraezha Wojjan

Wojjan (4) - akrolsmir foulcoon Two Lilac

akrolsmir (2) - adam2046 Rantai

Kiddo-Kun (1) - LadySuburu

Not Voting (1) - Kiddo-Kun

If the deadline feels too long, a shorter deadline for day 2 and subsequent days can be requested.

akrolsmir wrote:

I'm keeping my vote on Wojjan because I'm not satisfied with his explanation, plus his recent barrage of posts looks kind of desperate and lacking a focus.

well instead of other people you I actually bother looking at everybody's posts instead of just keep voting one person to protect a scumbuddy with the same amount of votes. It's lacking a focus because I just read through the thread and checked what I wanted clarification on. Of course that's going to bring up a lot of different names.

rust45 wrote:

If the deadline feels too long, a shorter deadline for day 2 and subsequent days can be requested.

5 days.

adam2046 wrote:

It honestly just feels like the day is being dragged out.

Wahh the game is being dragged out. Let's rush day 1 so that town has less information to go on day 2. Let's also post next to nothing so there's not much to incriminate me.

Two wrote:

adam2046 wrote:

It honestly just feels like the day is being dragged out.

Wahh the game is being dragged out. Let's rush day 1 so that town has less information to go on day 2. Let's also post next to nothing so there's not much to incriminate me.

Did I say I wanted the day to end?
People probably want it to be night already so they can use whatever overpowered ability they got. Arguments have mostly boiled down to lightly slapping each other. So they're barely posting information/at all and the day just feels like it's going on way too long.
I would love to have some conversation with actual content, but I don't see that happening unless someone makes a slightly controversial post and everyone suddenly decides to voice their opinion on it.

adam2046 wrote:

Did I say I wanted the day to end?
People probably want it to be night already so they can use whatever overpowered ability they got. Arguments have mostly boiled down to lightly slapping each other.

1. yes you did

2. why did you just roleclaim

Two wrote:

1. yes you did

2. why did you just roleclaim

1. I totally did not.
2. You think I'd miss something like that when rewriting my post for the 5th time?

no I don't think you'd miss something, or else I wouldn't ask why you decided to roleclaim

People probably want it to be night already so they can use whatever overpowered ability they got.

adam2046 wrote:

I would love to have some conversation with actual content, but I don't see that happening unless someone makes a slightly controversial post and everyone suddenly decides to voice their opinion on it.

Okay adam from now on I appoint you LEADER OF TOWN

your job is to make sure that at all times conversations are contentful and useful.

fyi we have like 17 hours 40 minutes until the day ends

if no votes are changed Lilac is being lynched

Frowny face.

unvote, vote: Wojjan

Wojjan wrote:

Didn't even vote anyone. I want answers, not a lynch.

You're playing totally different this game. Normally you're all BLAHBLAHBLAH MISLYNCH SOMEONE BLAHBLAH and then you end up town. Now you don't want a lynch?

Wojjan wrote:

Voting on the other bandwagon so he won't get lynched instead

How does that make him scum? Let's say he is town. If he votes someone else to avoid his own lynch, it leads to a higher chance of hitting scum than if he did nothing and let himself die. Oh there's also the whole "I want to keep playing and not die" thing, which is something that any role except Jester and maybe a couple other really rare roles would want to do.

Then there's that part where you tried to paint Lilac as scum by misquoting LadySuburu's post as his own.

Granted I still don't like Lilac's whole avoidance thing, but if I had to choose between Lilac or Wojjan to lynch, I'd go with Wojjan.