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Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
Also:

Lilac wrote:

Rantai wrote:

Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.
You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I know it's in most people's minds that it is but I really did it in order to get a good grasp of Day 1. However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.
ha ha ha ha ha?
Seriously can't you even pretend to play the game?
Quaraezha
1,491 posts
Joined February 2011
Quaraezha
Alright, I'm home now.

animask wrote:

Quaraezha, But I noticed something when you answered my question...
You say that you keep getting lynched/nightkilled so you might as well be mafia.
Why the focus on mafia? There are other roles that benefit from being a target like jester and the bus driver.
Almost FoS worthy, but you don't talk much so I can't really get much out of you...
Because being Mafia is cool, but really, fuck it. It's a tough job.
Jesters are silly and massive gamebreakers, nobody wants those.
And I have no idea what a bus driver is.


FoS: akrolsmir, what kind of player do you think you are? Have you played any other Mafia Games before?
Lilac
Elite Mapper
1,515 posts
Joined December 2008
Lilac
Actually, I want to hear from Kiddo-kun because he's the only one I haven't formulated an opinion on.
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
1,384 posts
Joined July 2008
foulcoon

Lilac wrote:

but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.
really? That irritates me to the point in which I want to vote for you so bad. The sad part is you're probably not mafia because no mafia member would be willing to admit that they're staying under the radar and not posting on purpose.
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir

Quaraezha wrote:

Have you played any other Mafia Games before?
Er, actually, no. Others have referenced the fact that I'm a newbie which is completely true.

Lilac wrote:

Actually, I want to hear from Kiddo-kun because he's the only one I haven't formulated an opinion on.
I agree about wanting to hear from him, but so far your past opinions have basically been "everyone's acting normal and must be town". It doesn't seem quite scummy, but also not quite helpful.
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan

akrolsmir wrote:

It doesn't seem quite scummy, but also not quite helpful.
Yes it does. That's exactly scummy. Why isn't Lilac suspicious of anyone?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old

Wojjan wrote:

Yes it does. That's exactly scummy. Why isn't Lilac suspicious of anyone?
that's what I was trying to find the words for earlier, but I couldn't write it properly so I went to bed

I noticed that when I was mafia in a recent game, I would spend the majority of my time explaining why someone probably isn't mafia and I rarely attacked anyone. I don't think most mafia will seriously (not "random vote", not "maybe, looks, might be") attack anyone unless it's already been initiated by someone else on day 1.
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

I noticed that when I was mafia in a recent game, I would spend the majority of my time explaining why someone probably isn't mafia and I rarely attacked anyone. I don't think most mafia will seriously (not "random vote", not "maybe, looks, might be") attack anyone unless it's already been initiated by someone else on day 1.
Playstyles vary. I've seen mafia who will latch on to a player and attack them viciously on D1.

That being said, what you said is right that most mafia won't seriously attack anyone unless someone else has started a valid-looking attack already.

Vote: Kiddo-Kun Come talk with us won't you?
Kiddo-Kun
1,014 posts
Joined May 2009
Kiddo-Kun
Ohai, I guess I should stop being a lazy ass and read through this.
Kiddo-Kun
1,014 posts
Joined May 2009
Kiddo-Kun
I read through this-ish.

Everything Two said has been rubbing me the wrong way. His arguments are just silly and don`t make sense . But, it's something about him that's leading me to believe he's not Mafia. (Maybe the whole "He's just being Two" thing got to me) It's akrolsmir. It's just the way he attacks anyone and has weak reasoning.
I'm gong to place my vote on akrolsmir.
Vote: akrolsmir
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
unvote, vote Kiddo-Kun
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir

Two wrote:

unvote, vote Kiddo-Kun
He does seem to be bandwagoning a bit, just spitting out what others have said without coming up with anything original.( But then I'm probably going to be slightly biased regarding that)

Anyways, Unvote, FoS: Kiddo-Kun more explanation please.
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
oh my god scum harder akrols
vote akro
Kiddo-Kun
1,014 posts
Joined May 2009
Kiddo-Kun
It's a good enough excuse to vote for you. Just because that excuse to vote for you has already been used doesn't mean I still can't use it.
Lybydose
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Lybydose
unvote, vote: foulcoon
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
what a poser
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2009
Lybydose
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Lybydose
nevermind

unvote, vote: Kiddo-kun
Rantai
1,000 posts
Joined July 2010
Rantai
My Lybydose, trigger happy?

akrolsmir wrote:

He does seem to be bandwagoning a bit, just spitting out what others have said without coming up with anything original.( But then I'm probably going to be slightly biased regarding that)
Why does this feel like you're only attacking him because he voted you...

Though I will agree his accusations are extremely generic.

@Kiddo-Kun, care to elaborate some more? All I see from your last post is "It's been said before, I don't need to explain myself"'
Kiddo-Kun
1,014 posts
Joined May 2009
Kiddo-Kun
I'm just saying. A lot of his post are just him jumping at people will silly accusations.

Also, I guess my other post is very unclear and I guess it gave off a very scummy vibe. What I meant was "foulcoon had a nice point, and I agree with that."
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
akrolsmir 4 kiddo 3

too tired to do anything better than that
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
k
Two votes for animask
akrolsmir votes for foulcoon
Wojjan votes for Kiddo-Kun
Lybydose votes for LadySuburu
Two votes for Lybydose (unvote)
akrolsmir votes for Two (unvote)
adam2046 votes for akrolsmir
foulcoon votes for akrolsmir
LadySuburu votes for Kiddo-Kun
Kiddo-Kun votes for akrolsmir
Two votes for Kiddo-Kun (unvote)
akrolsmir unvotes Two
Wojjan votes for akrolsmir (unvote?)
Lybydose votes for foulcoon (unvote)
Lybydose votes for Kiddo-Kun (unvote)

akrolsmir: why are you lurking?

unvote: vote akrolsmir

one more vote lynches him, mafia

edit: added wojjan's vote for akrolsmir, added foulcoon's vote for akrolsmir
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
Kiddo-Kun: LadySuburu, Lybydose
akrolsmir: adam2046, foulcoon, Kiddo-Kun, Wojjan, Two

Not Voting:

animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
Apparently a lot of people think my actions have been scummy. Remember, this is my first mafia game. Which essentially means that I've been trying to do things by the book (aka mafiascum wiki). Random voting, FoS, suspecting lurkers and bandwagoning- this is the stuff I read about and tried to emulate. And when people started jumping on me for doing that, I instinctively defended it because I really didn't have much else to rely on. Maybe I should have been more quiet as a newbie, but as someone else mentioned I was probably a bit overeager to play.

Anyways, I'm still suspicious of Lilac and Kiddo-kun though not enough to vote at this point. Plus it would probably be seen as trying to divert attention away from me and get me lynched.

Two wrote:

akrolsmir: why are you lurking?
Because my play was pretty bad and each post led someone else to suspect me, so I decided to shut up and listen to what others had to say about it.
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.



Would like to hear from:

animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir


Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Lybydose
well then

unvote, vote: Two
Lybydose
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Lybydose

foulcoon wrote:

@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.



Would like to hear from:

animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir


Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
conveniently leaving LadySuburu out, I'm on to you
Lybydose
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Lybydose
hi Wojjan
foulcoon
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foulcoon

Lybydose wrote:

foulcoon wrote:

@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.



Would like to hear from:

animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir


Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
conveniently leaving LadySuburu out, I'm on to you
wat

I used Two's list of people not voting... LadySuburu isn't on it. Is LS voting kiddo? There at least was an FoS or HoS so I already have my answer?
rust45
1,085 posts
Joined May 2009
Topic Starter
rust45
Vote Count:
akrolsmir (5) - adam2046, foulcoon, Kiddo-Kun, Wojjan, Two
Kiddo-Kun (1) - LadySuburu
Two (1) - Lybydose

Not Voting (5)- Lilac, animask, Rantai, akrolsmir, Quaraezha

akrolsmir is at L-2!
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old

foulcoon wrote:

wat

I used Two's list of people not voting... LadySuburu isn't on it. Is LS voting kiddo? There at least was an FoS or HoS so I already have my answer?
I assume he was saying that you left out LadySuburu with your "who do you find suspicious?" question, but you can never be too sure with the challenged.

I'm gonna be honest, right now I feel like foulcoon, Wojjan, and LadySuburu are the most likely to be mafia.
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
Oh, you wanted to know why I haven't voted yet?

I don't really have enough confidence or information to make a decent vote just yet...

Firstly, I've been keeping track of the votes and unvotes. (No, I just looked at Two's post) I have a general
suspicion on everyone who has been messing with the votes. (Mostly Lybydose) If Two and Lybydose were mafia
they could be easily be using a strategy of some kind with voting. I've noticed that Two hasn't said anything to Lybydose
about his votes. I get the feeling that adam was also onto this. Seems a bit fishy/scummy, but I'm not really sure where they
would be going with this...

akrolsmir seems to be putting in information out there, but none of it seems useful. There seems to be a lot of focus on defending
himself. His behavior seems to be really defensive which seems to be an important trait.

Lilac is probably thinking that Day 1 is the most dangerous and reckless of all the days. You should realize that when you're pro-town,
you always have a high chance of being lynched anyways. This kind of behavior seems different coming from you... FoS Lilac
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old

animask wrote:

Firstly, I've been keeping track of the votes and unvotes. (No, I just looked at Two's post) I have a general
suspicion on everyone who has been messing with the votes. (Mostly Lybydose) If Two and Lybydose were mafia
they could be easily be using a strategy of some kind with voting. I've noticed that Two hasn't said anything to Lybydose
about his votes.
1. mafia can't talk during the day
2. masons can
3. I've actually commented on his last two votes, maybe even all of his votes who knows
4. I'm not a mason
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
More on Lilac (since I FoS'd him)

When he made this post:

Lilac wrote:

Rantai wrote:

Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.
You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I know it's in most people's minds that it is but I really did it in order to get a good grasp of Day 1. However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.
Shouldn't he have been thinking that in the first place? If you were a townie you can't be helpful if you don't say anything.
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder

Two wrote:

1. mafia can't talk during the day
2. masons can
3. I've actually commented on his last two votes, maybe even all of his votes who knows
4. I'm not a mason
You wanted people to use votes instead of FoS/HoS. He used votes instead of FoS/HoS.
Did he say anything about you?
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
I really don't understand your question
Sleep Powder
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Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder

Two wrote:

I really don't understand your question
He hasn't said anything at all. Has he?
Two_old
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Joined March 2008
Two_old
search.php?author_id=64501&sr=posts&t=59742

you tell me
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
Okay then, do you find Lybydose suspicious in any way?
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
Can you just tell us where you're going with this animask?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
of course it's suspicious that he votes entirely without reason (you can't do that unless you are as smart as me dawg) and has yet to post anything constructive at all other than "double posts are better than editing" and "WIFOM is for smart people"
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
@foulcoon, I got everything I needed for now...

My "plan" is to ask questions to people "without" pressure so they somehow slip up.
Two_old
620 posts
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Two_old
you've brought me to the brink of tears animask

really
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
@Two, just one more question. Do you think I'm suspicious of you or not?
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
oh my god he's serious isn't he
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
well judging by what you just said and your inability to recognize emotion-driven "logic", yes

I knew coming into this game that even mentioning your name could bite me in the ass, since you have what I think is known in this game as a "u suck" mentality. If you remember, I genuinely thought you were trolling me the last game we played together, since even when faced with irrefutable logic, you would still vote for me.
Sleep Powder
1,540 posts
Joined October 2008
Sleep Powder
Vote: Lilac

I'm not really suspicous of you, but I do hate your guts tremendously.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
lets buddy up then, friend ^_^

unvote, vote Lilac
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
LadySuburu
Kiddo and Lyby are my top suspicions, so no unvote.

Nothing has gone on that I feel like commenting on, so yeah.

FoS: Two for seeming like he has humor and also making me laugh earlier.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
1,515 posts
Joined December 2008
Lilac
It's natural to hate. Nothing wrong about that.

However, I don't want to get lynched over stupid reasons like that. Answering foulcoon, the person I'm currently most suspicious of is Kiddo. However, my vote now would only just make me more suspicious anyway.

Vote: Kiddo-kun

Come at me, bro.
Rantai
1,000 posts
Joined July 2010
Rantai
I'll keep this brief, got to go.

foulcoon wrote:

Would like to hear from:
---
Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
akrolsmir and Lilac.

- Hiding behind the newbie excuse, attacking lurkers under the guise of "following the book'. Not buying it right now, I still believe they are just convenient excuses.

- Purposely avoided posting to 'get a grasp of things',

I'll probably contribute more but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.


That one line grinds me like sandpaper.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
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Lybydose
You're right Two, I've done nothing aside from pointing out how your logic is complete horseshit.

Since we're living in the magical world where any time Two is wrong, it didn't really happen, I guess that means I've done nothing.

well except for unvote, Vote: Lilac

I guess since we're also living in the magical world of WIFOM not existing, I can use horrible logic like "Lilac is clearly town because no mafia would ever say that he'd probably contribute more but doesn't really want to post until Day 2." or assume anyone that dies at night wasn't killed by the people he suspects, because you know, it would be too obvious for the mafia to kill off the people voting for them.

Well now that I've cleared arbitrarily cleared Lilac, I guess unvote.










































Just kidding

vote: Lilac

His recent statements are even more scummy.
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
I'm still suspicious of Kiddo-kun at this point, but Vote: Lilac, for trying to shift attention away from you without really providing defense for yourself. Or a case of any kind, really- I didn't really see an argument against Kiddo-kun in there. You did lampshade the fact that it would be suspicious but I think that starts to reach into WIFOM territory.

As for myself, Rantai- well, I AM a newbie, how else would you expect me to play?
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old

Lybydose wrote:

Since we're living in the magical world where any time Two is wrong, it didn't really happen, I guess that means I've done nothing.
prettyyyyy sure your post history was barren, but if you'd like to correct me and point out where there was real substance, go ahead

also this lilac shift is shady as hell and I'd be suspicious of even myself if I didn't know better
Quaraezha
1,491 posts
Joined February 2011
Quaraezha
Hi guys.
It seems that I won't be having any internet connection at home for a few (or more) days.
I'm at the school library again and just read the posts.

I'll just make things quick and say what I want to say
I want to hear akrolsmir's opinion on Kiddo and Kiddo's opinion on akrolsmir.
I don't vote quite often but I'll bandwagon for now
Vote: Lilac
Also FoS on akrolsmir or Kiddo depending on their answers

And animask, your silly plan is silly, good luck with it.
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
First, he's been pretty quiet, though for some reason people seem to think I shouldn't go after lurkers. I still don't feel he adequately explained the opportunistic jump on the bandwagon, which overall just seems like he doesn't care who gets lynched as long as the day gets over and it's not him.
Kiddo-Kun
1,014 posts
Joined May 2009
Kiddo-Kun
Well at the beginning of the game he started to piss me off with all the random votes that had weak reasoning. But now he's starting to seem less like a scum but more like a newbie trying to get a grasp the concept of this game. Since I don't find you suspicious anymore: unvote.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
1,515 posts
Joined December 2008
Lilac
Look guys, I'm not lying when I said I wasn't mafia. In fact, this is the best role I've had in ages.

I mean, though I'm disappointed in Two's change of mood when he plays this now, probably a change from ragequitting that Mafia game, it's also fair to say I didn't actually have any suspicion of Kiddo to begin with. (Two, I shifted my mood because you did. ;) ) Aren't you happy?

I'm not going to defend myself because there is no point. My lynching today will obviously mean that someone in the Mafia has voted for me already for being suspicious and if they haven't, they're probably the dumbest person ever because it's FREE KILL. I'm pretty sure that there's 3 in this game and that at least one of them has already jumped on me though, if not more.

Lybydose, there are no such thing as scummy statements because they're all subjective as hell.

Also, LS, that's probably the best way I've seen you play Mafia all this time. By doing nothing~
Lilac
Elite Mapper
1,515 posts
Joined December 2008
Lilac
Bleh, this ain't going to work now that I re-read the topic.

Considering that there are 3 Mafia in this game, I am going to cross of foulcoon, Lybydose, Kiddo-Kun, akrolsmir and Rantai out.

1. LadySuburu - Even since I met you, I felt you were an odd person. I even told you that I could never, ever read you. It's intriguing and I hope this doesn't come back to bite me.

2. animask - You're different. You're trying to sound more serious and that's what ticks me off. I liked the old animask...but I'm sorry it just seems odd. I mean, a more serious animask! Wow, a lot of people have changed.

3. adam - You went...silent...for 6 whole pages... Are you serious? akrolsmir even try to back up the claim...Unless he didn't do it right.

4. Quaraezha - Why join if you're not contributing? You're as useless as me. Though you're mainly town when you get lynched D1, I'd really laugh/cry if you were actually Mafia though.

5. Wojjan - I never liked you...Actually, I did when you started that TTYD project. I think I might do a song but the point stands. I don't like you. You hardly do anything, you troll and yet people respect you for that. I assume it's your past history which does that considering your upper most role as the cult.

6. Two - Same with you, you're different. You're acting nothing like before and if that's how you play mafia, then I congratulate you because you will be the best at it. Not to mention your previous history of gaming too! You are someone to be feared.

What else do you want me to do to say I'm town?
adam2046
1,653 posts
Joined April 2008
adam2046

Lilac wrote:

I'm not going to defend myself because there is no point. My lynching today will obviously mean that someone in the Mafia has voted for me already for being suspicious and if they haven't, they're probably the dumbest person ever because it's FREE KILL. I'm pretty sure that there's 3 in this game and that at least one of them has already jumped on me though, if not more.
If you're actually town you're not making it much better for yourself by being a defeatist. Town should be trying to stay alive and lynch scum, not actively helping the mafia lynch them.

Lilac wrote:

Considering that there are 3 Mafia in this game, I am going to cross of foulcoon, Lybydose, Kiddo-Kun, akrolsmir and Rantai out.
What?

Lilac wrote:

akrolsmir even try to back up the claim...Unless he didn't do it right.
What?
akrolsmir
606 posts
Joined November 2010
akrolsmir
And here I was all ready to accuse Lilac of being a jester.

@adam Go back and read your last post (you know, 5 pages ago?), though I agree that Lilac's statement is pretty ambiguously worded.
foulcoon
osu! Alumni
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foulcoon
I agree there is probably 3 mafia using the general 1 mafia : 4 town ratio, but I would also like to know how you ruled myself and the other people out Lilac.
Lilac
Elite Mapper
1,515 posts
Joined December 2008
Lilac
Yeah, it was pretty bad wording. I have disgraced myself.

adam2046 wrote:

If you're actually town you're not making it much better for yourself by being a defeatist. Town should be trying to stay alive and lynch scum, not actively helping the mafia lynch them.
Probably too far gone for that. Also, I hate when people use that saying.

animask wrote:

Vote: Lilac

I'm not really suspicous of you, but I do hate your guts tremendously.
Two even followed your reason. WHY TWO?!? WHHHHY MUST YOU STOOP TO ANIMASK'S LEVEL!?!?!? Hate isn't a reason to kill! Only to seriously maim!

akrolsmir wrote:

Vote: Lilac, for trying to shift attention away from you without really providing defense for yourself. Or a case of any kind, really-
Answered you.

Quaraezha wrote:

I don't vote quite often but I'll bandwagon for now
Vote: Lilac
Typical.

Lybydose wrote:

vote: Lilac

His recent statements are even more scummy.
What?
rust45
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Topic Starter
rust45
Vote Count:
Lilac (5) - animask, Two, Lybydose, akrolsmir, Quaraezha

akrolsmir (3) - adam2046, foulcoon, Wojjan

Kiddo-Kun (2) - LadySuburu, Lilac

Not Voting (2) - Rantai, Kiddo-Kun

Lilac is at L-2!
adam2046
1,653 posts
Joined April 2008
adam2046
SPOILER
Summary of the 5-6 pages I was not talking.
BLAH BLAH BLAH
Qua stating the obvious
Two Two Two
Akrosmlymer: TWO IS THE SCUM HMMMM
Two: I have a problem with your post
Akrobosm: IGNORING FIRST PART FOCUSING ON JOKE PART
animask ladidadididadadida trying hard
foulcoon makes a well thought out post
Alkomiser: IGNORING LARGE PARTS OF YOUR POST LALALA
lybydose: VOTE SOMEONE UNBOAT SOMEONE BLOAT SOMEONE UNBLOAT SOMEONE
LILAC ENTERS THE RING
Lilac: META META META META META META META META TAMASHII META META ICCHOUDO akrosmsnkk is probably innocent because he's new
Rantai makes well thought out post
I don't respond because I totally forgot
Lilac makes silly comments about lying low and not getting lynched
Wojjan Wojjan Wojjan Wojjan
People react to Lilac's silly posts
Two provides helpful informatio-HOLY SHIT
LadySuburu is non confrontational
Kiddo uses orange in his posts, I feel like puking
Kiddo points out Two, votes for Alkro instead
Everyone points this out
Amklos: OMGUS vote
Lybydose: :D D: :D D: :D D: :D D:
Afkro starts learning
animask posts and then posts and then posts and oh god my brain
Sudden Lilac pile up
Thus concludes how I feel about the last 5-6 pages.
I really couldn't be bothered dealing with all that.

akrolsmir wrote:

@adam Go back and read your last post (you know, 5 pages ago?), though I agree that Lilac's statement is pretty ambiguously worded.
Okay I get it now. I ask you a question, you answer the question, I am satisfied that that is how you feel about the subject even though I disagree. Lilac somehow expects me to start a long useless argument on the subject.

Lilac wrote:

Probably too far gone for that.
Stop doing that.

Lilac wrote:

Also, I hate when people use that saying.
The saying about how to actually play mafia? Namely that the point is actually lynching mafia?
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unless you're mafia
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adam wrote:

Lilac somehow expects me to start a long useless argument on the subject.
What? I did?



Also to answer foulcoon.

foulcoon: To quote adam. META META META META META. You don't really play mafia like this (as I've seen on one previous game. You're more aggressive.), unless of course you've changed just like a lot of people have in this game.

Doc: Ehh, his random voting spree doesn't sound like it has much basis. Though he seems to have voted on the basis of using other people's arguments, I'm pretty sure he's being lazy and not doing things like he's done before... In other words, META META META META META META META META META META.

akrolsmir: Playing by the book, maybe it's the newbie charm that leads me to think that people who are new to the game are not necessarily mafia at first...This is more of looking at the setup and trying to read into the host but hell that ain't going to work. Anyone that kinda leans towards town is town for me at this point in time.

Also, I like dealing with things being certain, it leads towards less WIFOM and more of having a shot at trying to get Mafia.

Rantai: ...............He's so bloody neutral. Let me meta this guy.

Wow, damn. He actually plays pretty similar for neutral, town and mafia...... But it's just my gut feeling he isn't Mafia...
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Oh yeah.

Unvote
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Lilac wrote:

I'm not lying when I said I wasn't mafia. In fact, this is the best role I've had in ages.

Lilac wrote:

I'm not going to defend myself because there is no point.

Lilac wrote:

However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.
have you been drinking animask juice or something

and fyi you misunderstood the whole hate thing, animask was directing that at me
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I've already explained myself...

Omnomnom, juice.
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so lilac who would you most like to see die
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You, because I love you.
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your fake answers are making it really difficult for me to justify my reasons for thinking you aren't mafia
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I don't really have a strong sense on who to kill yet. I'm leaning towards LS but we've still got 4 more days to discuss this and I would really like to see how this day progresses.

And yeah, I sadly have to go now.
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Lilac wrote:

I don't really have a strong sense on who to kill yet. I'm leaning towards LS but we've still got 4 more days to discuss this and I would really like to see how this day progresses.
I was considering ladysuburu too

and I'm now wondering why rantai just lurked and left after all of these posts
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Two wrote:

and I'm now wondering why rantai just lurked and left after all of these posts
Because I just got home from my practicals and still reading (forgive me if I'm slow).
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Double postin'

As for myself, Rantai- well, I AM a newbie, how else would you expect me to play?
By not using the fact you're a newbie to defend yourself. Take it how you like, I thinks it's a weak way out.


Anyway I'm a bit less suspicious of Lilac at this moment. While it's all WIFOM and blah blah blah, his softclaim of an aux role gives me a small amount of leeway for his willingness to stay quiet.

Still don't like the fact he had to be called out to leap out of that mind set though, I'm keeping my eye on you.


That said, Vote: akrolsmir you're the only one left on my list, coupled with the fact you jumped onto the bandwagon, you pulled omgus votes and you're still adamant on hiding behind your newbie status, you stand out more than Lilac right now, to me.
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Lilac wrote:

5. Wojjan - I never liked you...Actually, I did when you started that TTYD project. I think I might do a song but the point stands. I don't like you. You hardly do anything, you troll and yet people respect you for that. I assume it's your past history which does that considering your upper most role as the cult.
/wrists

Yeah I'm good with a Lilac lynch

vote: Lilac
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I forgot to unvote

but I'm only gonna vote again if a bandwagon is started on one of these people:
LadySuburu
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Wojjan
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Two wrote:

adam2046
Why? D:
I thought we was tight, yo.
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Two wrote:

I forgot to unvote

but I'm only gonna vote again if a bandwagon is started on one of these people:
LadySuburu
adam2046
Wojjan
foulcoon
Quaraezha
>pick half of the names

> odds are one of them is scum

> see I was right
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I don't like the Lilac bandwagon. Mainly since I've talked to Lilac enough that none of the behavior seems really out of the ordinary to me.

Might as well post my impressions of players.



Two: The only way I can read Two without always seeing him as Mafia is by meta. That being said, other than a few posts he seems to be acting pretty much as normal. - Town read.

animask: Actions seem slightly abnormal, but I don't see anything suspicious here. Neutral read.

akrolsmir: Never played with him before. Uses mafiascum newbie guide, and doesn't come off as suspicious to me. Neutral read.

LadySuburu: I haven't posted much. I don't post much in a lot of my games. When I have something that I feel is important to say, I'll say it. I don't like making filler posts with no content. (That doesn't mean that I haven't sometime in the past. I just don't like to do it.)

adam2046: Hasn't posted too much, but his posts are just about normal for him. (Other than one weird use of color for some reason.) Read: Slightly town.

foulcoon: Seems about normal, getting an odd feeling from him but nothing really major. Neutral read.

Kiddo: Shows up only after I vote him to get him in here, makes a scummy post, and follows it with another scummy post (excuse to vote? Slip there?). Follows it with a post trying to explain away the last post's scummy feel. (Which the post makes it seem like he was voting entirely based off of foul's reasonings alone.) Scum read.

Wojjan: Seems about normal for Wojjan. Neutral read.

Lybydose: Pretty much all but one of his posts are devoid of any sort of actual content. Random vote hopping like it's the new fad. Scum read.

Rantai: Based on what I know about Rantai: Slightly Town

Quar: Seems about normal for him but his statement of "I don't vote quite often but I'll bandwagon for now" gave me a bad feeling. Read: Neutral but leaning slightly scum.

Lilac: Talking with Lilac as often as I do, I don't think he's scum. However, I will post that him saying "I don't really have a strong sense on who to kill yet." does bug me. Still, my read is slightly town.


Oh, and I'm still staying with my vote on Kiddo.
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@Rantai: I don't think I've really been bandwagoning or omgus. The only apparent omgus would be for Two, but I had no idea what he was like or what to expect and in a vacuum his posts looked suspicious. I guess you could accuse me of bandwagoning on Lilac, but I did point him out earlier before anyone started voting.

Anyways, Lilac's convinced me with his posts, at least to Unvote. That said, I was watching to see who would try to get him lynched. Vote: Wojjan your vote feels like omgus without any content, why bring him to L-1 in spite of Lilac's recent posts without providing any justification whatsoever?

Where's animask?
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akrolsmir wrote:

Vote: Wojjan your vote feels like omgus without any content, why bring him to L-1 in spite of Lilac's recent posts without providing any justification whatsoever?
Because everything that's worth saying has been said, his posts have scum written all over and in a last desperate plea he gives us an "analysis" of all the players, especially mine being off-topic and riddled with misplaced pathos

these things kind of go without saying but then again you're new
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Actually, your analysis was just mainly meta... Plus the fact that I wish you were like that person I knew a year ago...

But yes, this is Mafia after all.
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I didn't make an analysis
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Lilac wrote:

akrolsmir: Playing by the book, maybe it's the newbie charm that leads me to think that people who are new to the game are not necessarily mafia at first...This is more of looking at the setup and trying to read into the host but hell that ain't going to work. Anyone that kinda leans towards town is town for me at this point in time.
akrolsmir: Never played with him before. Uses mafiascum newbie guide, and doesn't come off as suspicious to me. Neutral read.
Apparently akrols went from town to neutral in one page.

BETTER STEP UP YOUR GEAR LAD, MEAN OL' LILAC GONNA GET YA
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LadySuburu wrote:

Kiddo: Shows up only after I vote him to get him in here, makes a scummy post, and follows it with another scummy post (excuse to vote? Slip there?). Follows it with a post trying to explain away the last post's scummy feel. (Which the post makes it seem like he was voting entirely based off of foul's reasonings alone.) Scum read.
Two, why aren't you considering Kiddo in your list of people you're going to vote on? Do you think this argument isn't true, or that it doesn't hold enough merit for Kiddo to be scum on its own?
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Kiddo-Kun wrote:

I'm just saying. A lot of his post are just him jumping at people will silly accusations.

Also, I guess my other post is very unclear and I guess it gave off a very scummy vibe. What I meant was "foulcoon had a nice point, and I agree with that."
I don't like this post at all. Top dollar if you can figure out the riddle.
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Quaraezha wrote:

Alright, finally had the time to read all the posts (Rushed it though)
Currently at my School's Library and internet is kinda slow, so I won't quote anyposts for now.
I'll just post whatever I can and remember for now.

1.
Nobody seems to be protecting akrolsmir at the moment since most are attacking him.
So if akrolsmir is really Mafia, another Mafia wouldn't normally attack him as well, especially in Day 1.
If that's the case, the other Mafia members are luerkers, since they haven't protected/attacked anyone yet.

2.
I find it really awkward being (somehow) protected by Two,
but I guess that was just to convince akrolsmir of my playstyle.
Two has always been the type to make brutal (?) posts, and that's just Two being Two,
I can't really tell if he's Town or Mafia atm.
Although, he seems to be more aggressive and protective in this game to the previous ones I've played with him,
not sure why. But that's just my opinions.

3.
So about me being active in the other forums except this one.
The other threads aren't serious as Mafia Games, and I wasn't really in the mood to play Mafia or think too hard.
And animask, about me not joining anymore Mafia Games, that's silly.
I'm here for the same reason you are, just to add more characters.
It's fun to have a Mafia Game with different kinds of people.

Well, that's all I can say for now, I have classes in a few minutes.
I'll just add my other thoughts later when I get home or whatever.
1. Bullshit reasoning, WIFOM around the clock. Good mafia players don't want to fall out of tone and bandwagon right along like pretty little sheep.

2. You use seven lines to say "Two: meta's a nulltell"

Pretty long post for so little input. Love the fluff, Q
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Unvote
Vote: Wojjan


everyone is mafia now?
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Wojjan wrote:

Two, why aren't you considering Kiddo in your list of people you're going to vote on? Do you think this argument isn't true, or that it doesn't hold enough merit for Kiddo to be scum on its own?
cause the people I listed seem more likely than he does to me, on top of the fact that even if they aren't mafia they allow a lot more dots to be connected

if you want to know why I listed you, it's because you seem to be acting like you did day 3 or 4 or whatever in the one werewolf game where I wrote a giant fake "rolled is a werewolf" post

I actually bounced that idea off rolled and he didn't agree, but what does he know :(

also this seems like a bandwagon so vote: Wojjan
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Wojjan wrote:

akrolsmir: Never played with him before. Uses mafiascum newbie guide, and doesn't come off as suspicious to me. Neutral read.
Apparently akrols went from town to neutral in one page.
I didn't say that second quote...LS did...

Vote: Wojjan You played like this in the first mafia game I was in. The only one where I survived until Lylo.

Also, everyone has changed...It's pretty scary.
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foulcoon wrote:

Unvote
Vote: Wojjan


everyone is mafia now?
Didn't even vote anyone. I want answers, not a lynch.
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Lilac wrote:

However, I don't want to get lynched over stupid reasons like that. Answering foulcoon, the person I'm currently most suspicious of is Kiddo. However, my vote now would only just make me more suspicious anyway.

Vote: Kiddo-kun

Come at me, bro.
Voting on the other bandwagon so he won't get lynched instead

Lilac wrote:

Vote: Wojjan You played like this in the first mafia game I was in. The only one where I survived until Lylo.
Voting on the other bandwagon so he won't get lynched instead

yeahhhhhh

you went from everyone is town to everyone is scum pretty quickly there.
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I really enjoyed seeing rantai tell someone in that other game to "start talking" recently, given his presence in this thread
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Now, now no need for personal attacks.

Referring to my posting for today or referring to my overall posting for the entire game? If the latter, I'll explain it again...

If for today, I don't have much to say.

Basically all I see is Wojjan making 4 posts with the content of one consolidation post, expressing his/her opinions of those posts. LS stating what she thinks about each player and a bandwagon on Wojjan. I still don't believe using meta to make a vote is right, but that's a difference in opinion.

Also;

I guess you could accuse me of bandwagoning on Lilac, but I did point him out earlier before anyone started voting.
Ok. I missed that line, but it still doesn't clear you due to the rest in my eyes.
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I don't see it as a personal attack
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oh and prod everyone please
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I'm here, just don't have anything worth posting right now.
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