Right... you've succeeded at making me feel bad, but I"ll keep my vote there for the appeal to emotion.foulcoon wrote:
Wow what a jackass. I was in the hospital for 2 days and was sleeping when the role PMs went out lol.
I know its an RV but damn, how cruel.
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vote: LadySuburu
(Er... I hope double posting is okay, preferable to editing.)
I don't actually understand Two's accusation against me... is random voting a scummy practice or something?
I don't actually understand Two's accusation against me... is random voting a scummy practice or something?
No he's just being Two.
Doublepost instead of editing. Bonus points if you use the acronym "EBWOP" in there somewhere.
Doublepost instead of editing. Bonus points if you use the acronym "EBWOP" in there somewhere.
Substitute my name for "a genius" and I'll agree with you. Random votes are up there with "WIFOM" in the top-most echelons of mafia stupidity. You either are mafia claiming to pick a random person, or you're a townsperson purposely contributing nothing to the town. You don't have to wait until day 2 to get information. If you're going to make a vote, don't do it randomly.
On that note, I'm convinced enough animask isn't mafia. unvote, vote lybydose
@Two, you forgot to answer my question about why you voted for me...
@Wojjan, you can answer the question in whatever way you want... you don't need to be specific
with a role/alignment.
@Wojjan, you can answer the question in whatever way you want... you don't need to be specific
with a role/alignment.
We should lynch him just to be sure.Two wrote:
I'm convinced enough animask isn't mafia.
FoS Quaraezha for being on, posting on other threads in Forum Games but not here.
Assuming that was your reason, you can't expect everyone to know each person's meta. Seems unreasonable to vote for someone based on that.Wojjan wrote:
vote: Kiddo-Kun
that's exactly what Two does, every time.
FoS: Wojjan
FoS: akrolsmir
all you're doing is voting/FoS'ing people who seem the least active. The game has just started and we have a week. I understand everyone wants information but being a jackass doesn't help much. Your aggression just makes you seem anxious/suspicious to me.
Also I'm not really sure if everyone is RVing right now. Lyby why did you vote for LadySuburu? Wojjan, why are you voting for someone for lack of meta-gaming knowledge?
Not voting quite yet because we haven't heard from everyone. I don't need you to answer animask's super awesome question, just talk guys.
all you're doing is voting/FoS'ing people who seem the least active. The game has just started and we have a week. I understand everyone wants information but being a jackass doesn't help much. Your aggression just makes you seem anxious/suspicious to me.
Also I'm not really sure if everyone is RVing right now. Lyby why did you vote for LadySuburu? Wojjan, why are you voting for someone for lack of meta-gaming knowledge?
Not voting quite yet because we haven't heard from everyone. I don't need you to answer animask's super awesome question, just talk guys.
First post of the thread was you voting animask for no reason whatsoever. You may not have chosen it randomly, but it had just as much basis as a random vote or a "fake random vote because I don't actually have anything to go on so I'll just pick a guy for a stupid reason", which is either none, or "I wanted to vote this guy to get him to to talk or put him on the defensive".Two wrote:
You either are mafia claiming to pick a random person, or you're a townsperson purposely contributing nothing to the town.
Also discrediting WIFOM is incredibly stupid to the point where I can't tell if you're serious or just trolling.
1. don't assume things, mafiaLybydose wrote:
First post of the thread was you voting animask for no reason whatsoever. You may not have chosen it randomly, but it had just as much basis as a random vote or a "fake random vote because I don't actually have anything to go on so I'll just pick a guy for a stupid reason", which is either none, or "I wanted to vote this guy to get him to to talk or put him on the defensive".
Also discrediting WIFOM is incredibly stupid to the point where I can't tell if you're serious or just trolling.
2. "WIFOM" (I feel disgusting even typing that out, by the way) is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. This game's very core is picking posts, parts of posts etc. and deciding what they are most likely to mean.
I guess your vote for ladysuburu was "random". Or maybe you voted for them because you know for a fact they aren't aligned with you.
I guess your vote for ladysuburu was "random". Or maybe you voted for them because you know for a fact they aren't aligned with you.I guess your vote for animask was "random". Or maybe you voted for them because you know for a fact they aren't aligned with you.
don't assume things, mafia
Ok, so we've now established Lybydose and Two are mafia.
no, we've established that lybydose can't form an argument
and likes to roleclaim mafia every other post
and likes to roleclaim mafia every other post
why do I need to form an argument when I can just use yours?
Voting two because he votes someone else is beyond stupid.foulcoon wrote:
Wojjan, why are you voting for someone for lack of meta-gaming knowledge?
HoS: Lybydose
FoS: Two
FoS: Two
While I find Two's argument hilarious and hypocritical, I have to agree that Lybydose's reaction catches my attention quite a bit more.
Fos: Lybydose
Fos: Lybydose
Question: What do you think is the best role for you?I honestly have no idea, I end up getting Nightkilled/Lynched when I'm Townie, so I might as well be Mafia.
Still suspicious of Quaraezha on the basis of ignoring all the previous posts besides the random question...
That said, I'm still unsure about you, but for now Unvote, FoS: Two
Lybydose's responses just seem like the ones I would make if I were faced with a self-contradicting set of arguments like that.foulcoon wrote:
While I find Two's argument hilarious and hypocritical, I have to agree that Lybydose's reaction catches my attention quite a bit more.
Fos: Lybydose
That said, I'm still unsure about you, but for now Unvote, FoS: Two
I would appreciate it if you people would stop being purposely apprehensive and start voting instead. fos and hos is almost as bad as wifom, I mean it advertises your aversion to direct conflict
I'm not quite convinced enough to vote yet. Why are you in such a rush to get votes on people?Two wrote:
I would appreciate it if you people would stop being purposely apprehensive and start voting instead. fos and hos is almost as bad as wifom, I mean it advertises your aversion to direct conflict
HoS: Two
Well then, may as well get started.
Vote: akrosloslymir
It looks more like you're trying to defend lybydose from everyone.
Lybydose has only pointed out things Two said in response to things Two said without revealing anything about himself. This leads me to believe he is MAFIA. Two will most likely die night 1 if he is not mafia.
Everything I say is absolutely true and you should blindly follow me.
Vote: akrosloslymir
I don't really like these sorts of lines. "Well that's exactly what I'd do so it's fine!"akrolsmir wrote:
Lybydose's responses just seem like the ones I would make if I were faced with a self-contradicting set of arguments like that.
It looks more like you're trying to defend lybydose from everyone.
Lybydose has only pointed out things Two said in response to things Two said without revealing anything about himself. This leads me to believe he is MAFIA. Two will most likely die night 1 if he is not mafia.
Everything I say is absolutely true and you should blindly follow me.
Rule #1 of mafia games: Two dies night 1 without fail. Mafia or not.adam2046 wrote:
Two will most likely die night 1 if he is not mafia.
I honestly cannot remember a game where I wasn't killed or supposed to be killed night 1.
I don't really believe this is a real question but I'll bite: I really think the only reason anyone would use hos or fos is if they're mafia/aux and bad at the game. There really is no point to doing either of them unless the person is vulnerable to lynching, other than not having yourself on record as voting for them. There's also the convenience of never having to unvote so you can hos and fos everyone eventually without people picking up on it.LadySuburu wrote:
Why are you in such a rush to get votes on people?
I can see how you'd see it that way. However, any good player will also watch and keep track of the HoS and FoS's, as well as attacks made. Then you analyze them and see if there's anything suspicious about it.Two wrote:
I don't really believe this is a real question but I'll bite: I really think the only reason anyone would use hos or fos is if they're mafia/aux and bad at the game. There really is no point to doing either of them unless the person is vulnerable to lynching, other than not having yourself on record as voting for them. There's also the convenience of never having to unvote so you can hos and fos everyone eventually without people picking up on it.
I've grown to dislike RVS while playing and watching the last few games since it gives virtually nothing to town, and I also dislike voting for someone before I'm convinced unless it's very near deadline which is the exact reason I use HoS or FoS. If I didn't show any of my suspicions I'm giving no information at all other than that I'm not posting.
Sorry for hitting upon a pet peeve... tell me then, what would you do in his place? I'll go on record stating that I don't believe lybydose is scum, but really my statement was to explain my suspicion of Two. I really don't see how making hypocritical accusations is good town behavior, unless you're trying to get a rise out of the accusee... but town and scum alike will respond to bad logic in the same ways, so what's the point?adam2046 wrote:
I don't really like these sorts of lines. "Well that's exactly what I'd do so it's fine!"
It looks more like you're trying to defend lybydose from everyone.
1. Not begin yet another Two argument designed entirely to benefit Two.akrolsmir wrote:
what would you do in his place?
2. Start a more productive conversation about you designed entirely to benefit me.
Can you back up that claim?akrolsmir wrote:
I really don't see how making hypocritical accusations is good town behavior, unless you're trying to get a rise out of the accusee... but town and scum alike will respond to bad logic in the same ways, so what's the point?
Vote Count:
Kiddo-Kun - 1 (Wojjan)
LadySuburu - 1 (Lybydose)
Lybydose - 1 (Two)
Two - 1 (akrolsmir)
akrolsmir - 1 (adam2046)
Vote History Chronologically:
Two votes for animask
akrolsmir votes for foulcoon
Wojjan votes for Kiddo-Kun
Lybydose votes for LadySuburu
Two votes for Lybydose (unvote)
akrolsmir votes for Two (unvote)
adam2046 votes for akrolsmir
Not Voting:
LadySuburu
animask
Rantai
Kiddo-Kun
Quaraezha
foulcoon
Lilac
Post Count: (ascending)
Lilac: 0
Kiddo-Kun: 1
Quaraezha: 1
Rantai: 1
Wojjan: 2
foulcoon: 3
LadySuburu: 4
adam2046: 5
Lybydose: 5
akrolsmir: 7
animask: 7
Two: 13 (with this)
That's interesting, Lilac.
Kiddo-Kun - 1 (Wojjan)
LadySuburu - 1 (Lybydose)
Lybydose - 1 (Two)
Two - 1 (akrolsmir)
akrolsmir - 1 (adam2046)
Vote History Chronologically:
Two votes for animask
akrolsmir votes for foulcoon
Wojjan votes for Kiddo-Kun
Lybydose votes for LadySuburu
Two votes for Lybydose (unvote)
akrolsmir votes for Two (unvote)
adam2046 votes for akrolsmir
Not Voting:
LadySuburu
animask
Rantai
Kiddo-Kun
Quaraezha
foulcoon
Lilac
Post Count: (ascending)
Lilac: 0
Kiddo-Kun: 1
Quaraezha: 1
Rantai: 1
Wojjan: 2
foulcoon: 3
LadySuburu: 4
adam2046: 5
Lybydose: 5
akrolsmir: 7
animask: 7
Two: 13 (with this)
That's interesting, Lilac.
When you're attacked with faulty reasoning, your only recourse is to point out the gaps in logic regardless of alignment. You can't verify or pretend to be town without playing by the same framework that they are using, in which case you are using bad logic yourself. Why would you want to do that when you could point out the error of their case?adam2046 wrote:
Can you back up that claim?
Using good logic is the way to catch people because town can explain their actions while scum have to make something up, and then the accuser can use the difference to make a judgement.
I maintain that Quaraezha, too, is suspicious for posting absolutely nothing of substance. And you're suspicious for being so apparently helpful.Two wrote:
That's interesting, Lilac.
Don't be too suspicious just because I am inactive/lurking.
I just happen to be occupied with other stuff to read much of what is going on.
And from what I read so far, it's just some arguments from mostly Two and Lyby.
I just happen to be occupied with other stuff to read much of what is going on.
And from what I read so far, it's just some arguments from mostly Two and Lyby.
I'm the most helpful person in every game. Just look at my post count and intellect.
Quaraezha is like animask. They both join mafia games just to troll the hell out of them. Quaraezha does this by posting everywhere except the mafia thread, while animask does it by pretending not to read posts at all or fully. I don't think quaraezha acting exactly like he always does is suspicious at all.
You sure are for not wanting people to help the town.
Quaraezha is like animask. They both join mafia games just to troll the hell out of them. Quaraezha does this by posting everywhere except the mafia thread, while animask does it by pretending not to read posts at all or fully. I don't think quaraezha acting exactly like he always does is suspicious at all.
You sure are for not wanting people to help the town.
Still not much in terms of substance. Whatever happened to "lynch all lurkers"? Wait, I'll bet Two doesn't approve of that either.Quaraezha wrote:
Don't be too suspicious just because I am inactive/lurking.
I just happen to be occupied with other stuff to read much of what is going on.
And from what I read so far, it's just some arguments from mostly Two and Lyby.
Speaking of which, Two's defense of Q seems like trying to protect his scumbuddy. Two's argument boils down to "we're doing what we always do." I don't know if meta is an acceptable defense in this context or not, but my feeling was that he was trying too hard to prove that he was town. Why go to such lengths unless he isn't?
akrsolsmir: quaraezha is shady for not posting here
me: um he does that all the time even when he's town
aksfoskrmir: omg you both are mafia since you corrected me
that's ok though I know you are really trying to just get the thread to the next page so that some people won't read the vote count stuff
me: um he does that all the time even when he's town
aksfoskrmir: omg you both are mafia since you corrected me
that's ok though I know you are really trying to just get the thread to the next page so that some people won't read the vote count stuff
As if you couldn't post it again on the next page? Also, you seem to think that something in there incriminates me, I'd like to hear what.Two wrote:
that's ok though I know you are really trying to just get the thread to the next page so that some people won't read the vote count stuff
something doesn't have to incriminate you but I like how defensive you are
it's just your job as the informed minority to keep the majority solidly uninformed
it's just your job as the informed minority to keep the majority solidly uninformed
Earlier:
Now:Two wrote:
i called him scum and he didn't reply clearly he's scum
Two wrote:
i called him scum and he replied clearly he's scum
I don't troll. I just add some character to this game.
Also, saying that you're the most helpful and intelligent seems kind of suspicious... or at least obnoxious.
AND your playstyle doesn't benefit town as much as you think it does. I get the feeling that
you are trying to get people to appeal to emotion by acting like this. That's what you did with me?
BUT I see what you're trying to say about the voting rather than
FoS/HoS thing. People could get distracted by the FoS/HoS and forget about who the person originally
voted for.
Quaraezha, you always join these games, but never fully give attention to them. I'm
starting to think that you should stop playing these games. But I noticed something when you
answered my question... You say that you keep getting lynched/nightkilled so you might as well be mafia.
Why the focus on mafia? There are other roles that benefit from being a target like jester and the bus driver.
Almost FoS worthy, but you don't talk much so I can't really get much out of you...
akrolsmir, you seem to be focusing on logic and logical errors. I don't really know you're playstyle so I am
getting a townie-tell from you based on the information you are giving us.
Also, saying that you're the most helpful and intelligent seems kind of suspicious... or at least obnoxious.
AND your playstyle doesn't benefit town as much as you think it does. I get the feeling that
you are trying to get people to appeal to emotion by acting like this. That's what you did with me?
BUT I see what you're trying to say about the voting rather than
FoS/HoS thing. People could get distracted by the FoS/HoS and forget about who the person originally
voted for.
Quaraezha, you always join these games, but never fully give attention to them. I'm
starting to think that you should stop playing these games. But I noticed something when you
answered my question... You say that you keep getting lynched/nightkilled so you might as well be mafia.
Why the focus on mafia? There are other roles that benefit from being a target like jester and the bus driver.
Almost FoS worthy, but you don't talk much so I can't really get much out of you...
akrolsmir, you seem to be focusing on logic and logical errors. I don't really know you're playstyle so I am
getting a townie-tell from you based on the information you are giving us.
First part was directed at Two btw
I was going for cute. Why won't you ever find me cute, animask?animask wrote:
Also, saying that you're the most helpful and intelligent seems kind of suspicious... or at least obnoxious.
Vote: akrolsmir
I don't know what animask was talking about. His play-style doesn't focus on logical flaws, instead it focuses on the defense of illogical play style such as random voting and lynching lurkers.
He also takes time to focus attention on lurkers but doesn't do enough research to target the other people who have yet to vote. I'm not going to speculate at this point as to why he doesn't mention the other people lurking, but I'll instead give him a chance to explain himself. Honestly I don't understand why someone pro-town would take this much effort day one on painting someone as scum. I guess other than Two he has stated that he finds a good number of other people suspicious... Big deal? I find all of you fuckers suspicious.
I find that the people who stand the most defensive on day 1 tend to be town as mafia is typically lurking / trying to stay out of the spotlight. However, its not that you're on the defensive because someone directly targeted you, but because you are attacking other players and they are "fighting back".
tl;dr: akrolsmir finds everyone suspicious, focuses a lot of attention on Two, and for some reason only targeted one lurker when there was actually others. He is definitely top 3 as far as my mafia predictions go at this point.
I don't know what animask was talking about. His play-style doesn't focus on logical flaws, instead it focuses on the defense of illogical play style such as random voting and lynching lurkers.
He also takes time to focus attention on lurkers but doesn't do enough research to target the other people who have yet to vote. I'm not going to speculate at this point as to why he doesn't mention the other people lurking, but I'll instead give him a chance to explain himself. Honestly I don't understand why someone pro-town would take this much effort day one on painting someone as scum. I guess other than Two he has stated that he finds a good number of other people suspicious... Big deal? I find all of you fuckers suspicious.
I find that the people who stand the most defensive on day 1 tend to be town as mafia is typically lurking / trying to stay out of the spotlight. However, its not that you're on the defensive because someone directly targeted you, but because you are attacking other players and they are "fighting back".
tl;dr: akrolsmir finds everyone suspicious, focuses a lot of attention on Two, and for some reason only targeted one lurker when there was actually others. He is definitely top 3 as far as my mafia predictions go at this point.
... you answered this yourself:foulcoon wrote:
akrolsmir finds everyone suspicious
Also, two or three people != everyone.foulcoon wrote:
Big deal? I find all of you fuckers suspicious.
Two focuses a lot of attention on himself. And what you said about attacking other players and having them fight back- this is supposed to be bad/scummy?foulcoon wrote:
focuses a lot of attention on Two
Er, we get one vote each and one lynch per day. Feel free to make a case for any of the others (Lilac still has 0 posts), I'm targeting Q because he explicitly stated he was lurking/inactive.foulcoon wrote:
and for some reason only targeted one lurker when there was actually others.
I'd like to hear who else has the distinction of being in there, btw. My top 3 would be Two, Q, and... Lilac?foulcoon wrote:
He is definitely top 3 as far as my mafia predictions go at this point.
prod lilac please
Alright, finally had the time to read all the posts (Rushed it though)
Currently at my School's Library and internet is kinda slow, so I won't quote anyposts for now.
I'll just post whatever I can and remember for now.
1.
Nobody seems to be protecting akrolsmir at the moment since most are attacking him.
So if akrolsmir is really Mafia, another Mafia wouldn't normally attack him as well, especially in Day 1.
If that's the case, the other Mafia members are luerkers, since they haven't protected/attacked anyone yet.
2.
I find it really awkward being (somehow) protected by Two,
but I guess that was just to convince akrolsmir of my playstyle.
Two has always been the type to make brutal (?) posts, and that's just Two being Two,
I can't really tell if he's Town or Mafia atm.
Although, he seems to be more aggressive and protective in this game to the previous ones I've played with him,
not sure why. But that's just my opinions.
3.
So about me being active in the other forums except this one.
The other threads aren't serious as Mafia Games, and I wasn't really in the mood to play Mafia or think too hard.
And animask, about me not joining anymore Mafia Games, that's silly.
I'm here for the same reason you are, just to add more characters.
It's fun to have a Mafia Game with different kinds of people.
Well, that's all I can say for now, I have classes in a few minutes.
I'll just add my other thoughts later when I get home or whatever.
Currently at my School's Library and internet is kinda slow, so I won't quote anyposts for now.
I'll just post whatever I can and remember for now.
1.
Nobody seems to be protecting akrolsmir at the moment since most are attacking him.
So if akrolsmir is really Mafia, another Mafia wouldn't normally attack him as well, especially in Day 1.
If that's the case, the other Mafia members are luerkers, since they haven't protected/attacked anyone yet.
2.
I find it really awkward being (somehow) protected by Two,
but I guess that was just to convince akrolsmir of my playstyle.
Two has always been the type to make brutal (?) posts, and that's just Two being Two,
I can't really tell if he's Town or Mafia atm.
Although, he seems to be more aggressive and protective in this game to the previous ones I've played with him,
not sure why. But that's just my opinions.
3.
So about me being active in the other forums except this one.
The other threads aren't serious as Mafia Games, and I wasn't really in the mood to play Mafia or think too hard.
And animask, about me not joining anymore Mafia Games, that's silly.
I'm here for the same reason you are, just to add more characters.
It's fun to have a Mafia Game with different kinds of people.
Well, that's all I can say for now, I have classes in a few minutes.
I'll just add my other thoughts later when I get home or whatever.
Fine I guess Q's off the "lurking" category for now.
Because apparently I'm supposed to be fair and accuse everyone:
Rantai, Wojjan and Kiddo-kun have the next-least number of posts (besides Lilac of course). I find it interesting that they've basically spent their one post accusing each other, and then... nothing. If they are mafia, they're doing a pretty good job.
Because apparently I'm supposed to be fair and accuse everyone:
Rantai, Wojjan and Kiddo-kun have the next-least number of posts (besides Lilac of course). I find it interesting that they've basically spent their one post accusing each other, and then... nothing. If they are mafia, they're doing a pretty good job.
Topic Starter
Lilac has been prodded.
Yeah, I already knew this was happening... No need to prod me.
Two's being like he always is. Except when he said something about trying to be cute...that really freaked me out.
Only reason I wasn't posting is because there is nothing TO post. However, I must confess, there is a lot since I came back from school, I'll be reading now.
Two's being like he always is. Except when he said something about trying to be cute...that really freaked me out.
Only reason I wasn't posting is because there is nothing TO post. However, I must confess, there is a lot since I came back from school, I'll be reading now.
Going through again, I'm thinking Doc (Lybydose) ISN'T Mafia because by prodding me and also acting more than he does usually obviously doesn't seem like his Mafia playstyle in TF2 Mafia. (Not to mention he's just drawing more attention to himself...) Then again, that Mafia was probably really unbalanced with his simple roleclaim as Cop.
Qua being nonchalant and useless (BTW, I never use the word 'useless' in a negative connotation.) as usual meant that he probably is town. This is of course being judged from NoHItter's Island Mafia game. (I forgot the exact name but keep with me here.)
akrolsmir seems to be a newbie who wants to contribute, not necessarily helpful but considering the irony of that statement, it's probably because he's trying too hard.
...This is mainly for the people who believe in meta and some of my own observations and what not. I'll probably contribute more but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.
Qua being nonchalant and useless (BTW, I never use the word 'useless' in a negative connotation.) as usual meant that he probably is town. This is of course being judged from NoHItter's Island Mafia game. (I forgot the exact name but keep with me here.)
akrolsmir seems to be a newbie who wants to contribute, not necessarily helpful but considering the irony of that statement, it's probably because he's trying too hard.
...This is mainly for the people who believe in meta and some of my own observations and what not. I'll probably contribute more but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.
Addressing my posting, I can only post for a 5-7 hour window starting from around this time otherwise I am unavailable. Unfortunately this thread moves when I'm not awake/available.akrolsmir wrote:
Rantai, Wojjan and Kiddo-kun have the next-least number of posts (besides Lilac of course)
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As it stands I feel...
I'm willing to believe Two is not mafia at this stage. I will admit I've never played properly with him before but regardless, I don't consider meta as a good way to analyse/compare behavior patterns. Right now I'm feeling it's way too aggressive play, coupled with hypocrisy and the like I think it's just reaction fishing in an attempt to weed out suspicious people.
Speaking of reactions, I'm not sure what to make of Lybydose's reactions. It seems like he gave up trying to argue with Two due to his hypocrisy. Whether that means he's not bothering with him anymore or ran out of ideas, I'm not convinced either way.
akrolsmir's posting is striking me as odd. As far as I can tell his whole attack play has revolved around 'go after the quiet ones'. Sounds like a convenient excuse to cast suspicion at.
I still don't like how Wojjan was still pushing a vote based on a lack of meta knowledge but he/she hasn't posted much since so I'm not sure where to go with this feeling.
Nobody seems to be protecting akrolsmir at the moment since most are attacking him.This actually makes quite a bit of sense except there is a possibility that a mafia may be attacking him to keep distance, even in day 1.
So if akrolsmir is really Mafia, another Mafia wouldn't normally attack him as well, especially in Day 1.
If that's the case, the other Mafia members are luerkers, since they haven't protected/attacked anyone yet.
Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.Lilac wrote:
I'll probably contribute more but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.
Also;
Somethings probably not clicking right for me but I'd love to know how that works.adam2046 wrote:
Lybydose has only pointed out things Two said in response to things Two said without revealing anything about himself. This leads me to believe he is MAFIA
You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I know it's in most people's minds that it is but I really did it in order to get a good grasp of Day 1. However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.Rantai wrote:
Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.
what
Well the Kiddo thing was basically to see how he'd react.
He didn't.
akrols isn't making any amount of sense though, but it seems that he just wants to justify his crap play (not working)
Two you are the most adorable tsundere mafia player and nobody has to tell you that for you to know it.
unvote seeing as leaving it on for so long without response makes it obtuse.
He didn't.
akrols isn't making any amount of sense though, but it seems that he just wants to justify his crap play (not working)
Two you are the most adorable tsundere mafia player and nobody has to tell you that for you to know it.
unvote seeing as leaving it on for so long without response makes it obtuse.
Also:
Seriously can't you even pretend to play the game?
ha ha ha ha ha?Lilac wrote:
You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I know it's in most people's minds that it is but I really did it in order to get a good grasp of Day 1. However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.Rantai wrote:
Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.
Seriously can't you even pretend to play the game?
Alright, I'm home now.
Jesters are silly and massive gamebreakers, nobody wants those.
And I have no idea what a bus driver is.
FoS: akrolsmir, what kind of player do you think you are? Have you played any other Mafia Games before?
Because being Mafia is cool, but really, fuck it. It's a tough job.animask wrote:
Quaraezha, But I noticed something when you answered my question...
You say that you keep getting lynched/nightkilled so you might as well be mafia.
Why the focus on mafia? There are other roles that benefit from being a target like jester and the bus driver.
Almost FoS worthy, but you don't talk much so I can't really get much out of you...
Jesters are silly and massive gamebreakers, nobody wants those.
And I have no idea what a bus driver is.
FoS: akrolsmir, what kind of player do you think you are? Have you played any other Mafia Games before?
Actually, I want to hear from Kiddo-kun because he's the only one I haven't formulated an opinion on.
really? That irritates me to the point in which I want to vote for you so bad. The sad part is you're probably not mafia because no mafia member would be willing to admit that they're staying under the radar and not posting on purpose.Lilac wrote:
but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.
Er, actually, no. Others have referenced the fact that I'm a newbie which is completely true.Quaraezha wrote:
Have you played any other Mafia Games before?
I agree about wanting to hear from him, but so far your past opinions have basically been "everyone's acting normal and must be town". It doesn't seem quite scummy, but also not quite helpful.Lilac wrote:
Actually, I want to hear from Kiddo-kun because he's the only one I haven't formulated an opinion on.
Yes it does. That's exactly scummy. Why isn't Lilac suspicious of anyone?akrolsmir wrote:
It doesn't seem quite scummy, but also not quite helpful.
that's what I was trying to find the words for earlier, but I couldn't write it properly so I went to bedWojjan wrote:
Yes it does. That's exactly scummy. Why isn't Lilac suspicious of anyone?
I noticed that when I was mafia in a recent game, I would spend the majority of my time explaining why someone probably isn't mafia and I rarely attacked anyone. I don't think most mafia will seriously (not "random vote", not "maybe, looks, might be") attack anyone unless it's already been initiated by someone else on day 1.
Playstyles vary. I've seen mafia who will latch on to a player and attack them viciously on D1.Two wrote:
I noticed that when I was mafia in a recent game, I would spend the majority of my time explaining why someone probably isn't mafia and I rarely attacked anyone. I don't think most mafia will seriously (not "random vote", not "maybe, looks, might be") attack anyone unless it's already been initiated by someone else on day 1.
That being said, what you said is right that most mafia won't seriously attack anyone unless someone else has started a valid-looking attack already.
Vote: Kiddo-Kun Come talk with us won't you?
Ohai, I guess I should stop being a lazy ass and read through this.
I read through this-ish.
Everything Two said has been rubbing me the wrong way. His arguments are just silly and don`t make sense . But, it's something about him that's leading me to believe he's not Mafia. (Maybe the whole "He's just being Two" thing got to me) It's akrolsmir. It's just the way he attacks anyone and has weak reasoning.
I'm gong to place my vote on akrolsmir.
Vote: akrolsmir
Everything Two said has been rubbing me the wrong way. His arguments are just silly and don`t make sense . But, it's something about him that's leading me to believe he's not Mafia. (Maybe the whole "He's just being Two" thing got to me) It's akrolsmir. It's just the way he attacks anyone and has weak reasoning.
I'm gong to place my vote on akrolsmir.
Vote: akrolsmir
He does seem to be bandwagoning a bit, just spitting out what others have said without coming up with anything original.( But then I'm probably going to be slightly biased regarding that)Two wrote:
unvote, vote Kiddo-Kun
Anyways, Unvote, FoS: Kiddo-Kun more explanation please.
It's a good enough excuse to vote for you. Just because that excuse to vote for you has already been used doesn't mean I still can't use it.
unvote, vote: foulcoon
nevermind
unvote, vote: Kiddo-kun
unvote, vote: Kiddo-kun
My Lybydose, trigger happy?
Though I will agree his accusations are extremely generic.
@Kiddo-Kun, care to elaborate some more? All I see from your last post is "It's been said before, I don't need to explain myself"'
Why does this feel like you're only attacking him because he voted you...akrolsmir wrote:
He does seem to be bandwagoning a bit, just spitting out what others have said without coming up with anything original.( But then I'm probably going to be slightly biased regarding that)
Though I will agree his accusations are extremely generic.
@Kiddo-Kun, care to elaborate some more? All I see from your last post is "It's been said before, I don't need to explain myself"'
I'm just saying. A lot of his post are just him jumping at people will silly accusations.
Also, I guess my other post is very unclear and I guess it gave off a very scummy vibe. What I meant was "foulcoon had a nice point, and I agree with that."
Also, I guess my other post is very unclear and I guess it gave off a very scummy vibe. What I meant was "foulcoon had a nice point, and I agree with that."
akrolsmir 4 kiddo 3
too tired to do anything better than that
too tired to do anything better than that
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Two votes for animask
akrolsmir votes for foulcoon
Wojjan votes for Kiddo-Kun
Lybydose votes for LadySuburu
Two votes for Lybydose (unvote)
akrolsmir votes for Two (unvote)
adam2046 votes for akrolsmir
foulcoon votes for akrolsmir
LadySuburu votes for Kiddo-Kun
Kiddo-Kun votes for akrolsmir
Two votes for Kiddo-Kun (unvote)
akrolsmir unvotes Two
Wojjan votes for akrolsmir (unvote?)
Lybydose votes for foulcoon (unvote)
Lybydose votes for Kiddo-Kun (unvote)
akrolsmir: why are you lurking?
unvote: vote akrolsmir
one more vote lynches him, mafia
edit: added wojjan's vote for akrolsmir, added foulcoon's vote for akrolsmir
Two votes for animask
akrolsmir votes for foulcoon
Wojjan votes for Kiddo-Kun
Lybydose votes for LadySuburu
Two votes for Lybydose (unvote)
akrolsmir votes for Two (unvote)
adam2046 votes for akrolsmir
foulcoon votes for akrolsmir
LadySuburu votes for Kiddo-Kun
Kiddo-Kun votes for akrolsmir
Two votes for Kiddo-Kun (unvote)
akrolsmir unvotes Two
Wojjan votes for akrolsmir (unvote?)
Lybydose votes for foulcoon (unvote)
Lybydose votes for Kiddo-Kun (unvote)
akrolsmir: why are you lurking?
unvote: vote akrolsmir
one more vote lynches him, mafia
edit: added wojjan's vote for akrolsmir, added foulcoon's vote for akrolsmir
Kiddo-Kun: LadySuburu, Lybydose
akrolsmir: adam2046, foulcoon, Kiddo-Kun, Wojjan, Two
Not Voting:
animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir
akrolsmir: adam2046, foulcoon, Kiddo-Kun, Wojjan, Two
Not Voting:
animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir
Apparently a lot of people think my actions have been scummy. Remember, this is my first mafia game. Which essentially means that I've been trying to do things by the book (aka mafiascum wiki). Random voting, FoS, suspecting lurkers and bandwagoning- this is the stuff I read about and tried to emulate. And when people started jumping on me for doing that, I instinctively defended it because I really didn't have much else to rely on. Maybe I should have been more quiet as a newbie, but as someone else mentioned I was probably a bit overeager to play.
Anyways, I'm still suspicious of Lilac and Kiddo-kun though not enough to vote at this point. Plus it would probably be seen as trying to divert attention away from me and get me lynched.
Anyways, I'm still suspicious of Lilac and Kiddo-kun though not enough to vote at this point. Plus it would probably be seen as trying to divert attention away from me and get me lynched.
Because my play was pretty bad and each post led someone else to suspect me, so I decided to shut up and listen to what others had to say about it.Two wrote:
akrolsmir: why are you lurking?
@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.
Would like to hear from:
animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir
Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
Would like to hear from:
animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir
Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
well then
unvote, vote: Two
unvote, vote: Two
conveniently leaving LadySuburu out, I'm on to youfoulcoon wrote:
@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.
Would like to hear from:
animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir
Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
hi Wojjan
watLybydose wrote:
conveniently leaving LadySuburu out, I'm on to youfoulcoon wrote:
@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.
Would like to hear from:
animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir
Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
I used Two's list of people not voting... LadySuburu isn't on it. Is LS voting kiddo? There at least was an FoS or HoS so I already have my answer?
Topic Starter
Vote Count:
akrolsmir (5) - adam2046, foulcoon, Kiddo-Kun, Wojjan, Two
Kiddo-Kun (1) - LadySuburu
Two (1) - Lybydose
Not Voting (5)- Lilac, animask, Rantai, akrolsmir, Quaraezha
akrolsmir is at L-2!
akrolsmir (5) - adam2046, foulcoon, Kiddo-Kun, Wojjan, Two
Kiddo-Kun (1) - LadySuburu
Two (1) - Lybydose
Not Voting (5)- Lilac, animask, Rantai, akrolsmir, Quaraezha
akrolsmir is at L-2!
I assume he was saying that you left out LadySuburu with your "who do you find suspicious?" question, but you can never be too sure with the challenged.foulcoon wrote:
wat
I used Two's list of people not voting... LadySuburu isn't on it. Is LS voting kiddo? There at least was an FoS or HoS so I already have my answer?
I'm gonna be honest, right now I feel like foulcoon, Wojjan, and LadySuburu are the most likely to be mafia.
Oh, you wanted to know why I haven't voted yet?
I don't really have enough confidence or information to make a decent vote just yet...
Firstly, I've been keeping track of the votes and unvotes. (No, I just looked at Two's post) I have a general
suspicion on everyone who has been messing with the votes. (Mostly Lybydose) If Two and Lybydose were mafia
they could be easily be using a strategy of some kind with voting. I've noticed that Two hasn't said anything to Lybydose
about his votes. I get the feeling that adam was also onto this. Seems a bit fishy/scummy, but I'm not really sure where they
would be going with this...
akrolsmir seems to be putting in information out there, but none of it seems useful. There seems to be a lot of focus on defending
himself. His behavior seems to be really defensive which seems to be an important trait.
Lilac is probably thinking that Day 1 is the most dangerous and reckless of all the days. You should realize that when you're pro-town,
you always have a high chance of being lynched anyways. This kind of behavior seems different coming from you... FoS Lilac
I don't really have enough confidence or information to make a decent vote just yet...
Firstly, I've been keeping track of the votes and unvotes. (No, I just looked at Two's post) I have a general
suspicion on everyone who has been messing with the votes. (Mostly Lybydose) If Two and Lybydose were mafia
they could be easily be using a strategy of some kind with voting. I've noticed that Two hasn't said anything to Lybydose
about his votes. I get the feeling that adam was also onto this. Seems a bit fishy/scummy, but I'm not really sure where they
would be going with this...
akrolsmir seems to be putting in information out there, but none of it seems useful. There seems to be a lot of focus on defending
himself. His behavior seems to be really defensive which seems to be an important trait.
Lilac is probably thinking that Day 1 is the most dangerous and reckless of all the days. You should realize that when you're pro-town,
you always have a high chance of being lynched anyways. This kind of behavior seems different coming from you... FoS Lilac
1. mafia can't talk during the dayanimask wrote:
Firstly, I've been keeping track of the votes and unvotes. (No, I just looked at Two's post) I have a general
suspicion on everyone who has been messing with the votes. (Mostly Lybydose) If Two and Lybydose were mafia
they could be easily be using a strategy of some kind with voting. I've noticed that Two hasn't said anything to Lybydose
about his votes.
2. masons can
3. I've actually commented on his last two votes, maybe even all of his votes who knows
4. I'm not a mason
More on Lilac (since I FoS'd him)
When he made this post:
When he made this post:
Shouldn't he have been thinking that in the first place? If you were a townie you can't be helpful if you don't say anything.Lilac wrote:
You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I know it's in most people's minds that it is but I really did it in order to get a good grasp of Day 1. However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.Rantai wrote:
Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.
You wanted people to use votes instead of FoS/HoS. He used votes instead of FoS/HoS.Two wrote:
1. mafia can't talk during the day
2. masons can
3. I've actually commented on his last two votes, maybe even all of his votes who knows
4. I'm not a mason
Did he say anything about you?
He hasn't said anything at all. Has he?Two wrote:
I really don't understand your question
Okay then, do you find Lybydose suspicious in any way?
Can you just tell us where you're going with this animask?
of course it's suspicious that he votes entirely without reason (you can't do that unless you are as smart as me dawg) and has yet to post anything constructive at all other than "double posts are better than editing" and "WIFOM is for smart people"
@foulcoon, I got everything I needed for now...
My "plan" is to ask questions to people "without" pressure so they somehow slip up.
My "plan" is to ask questions to people "without" pressure so they somehow slip up.
@Two, just one more question. Do you think I'm suspicious of you or not?
well judging by what you just said and your inability to recognize emotion-driven "logic", yes
I knew coming into this game that even mentioning your name could bite me in the ass, since you have what I think is known in this game as a "u suck" mentality. If you remember, I genuinely thought you were trolling me the last game we played together, since even when faced with irrefutable logic, you would still vote for me.
I knew coming into this game that even mentioning your name could bite me in the ass, since you have what I think is known in this game as a "u suck" mentality. If you remember, I genuinely thought you were trolling me the last game we played together, since even when faced with irrefutable logic, you would still vote for me.