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rust45
This is an experimental game using experimental roles that I made up. There may be balance issues but overall this is a testing ground for the roles. This is a closed setup game.

"You were all sent to an island for a new reality show, The Mafia, based off of the popular internet game. But you weren't told how real the game was going to be.

When everyone arrived it was already night and everyone went straight to bed. But in the middle of the night, screams were heard. When everyone woke up, the body of the boat's captain was found. You heard over the intercom, 'This is the beginning of show, your jobs are to find out the perpetrators to this crime and lynch them in an orderly fashion. Be warned though, that captain is really dead. Try to not end up like him.'

With that said, everyone agreed to find out who killed the captain."

Start of day 1
Start of day 2
Start of day 3
Start of day 4

Alive:
1. 0_o

*Number of Prods

Replacements:
A.
B.
C.
D.

Dead:
The Captain (Pre-game)
Wojjan - Mafia Goon (Lynched D1)
Two - Sheriff (Killed N1)
Kiddo-Kun - Mafia Roleblocker (Lynched D2)
adam2046 - Townie (Lynched D3)
Lybdose - Weak Lover (Killed N3)
Quaraezha - Townie (Lynched D4)
Rantai - Mafia Goon (Killed N4)
foulcoon - Contract Killer (Killed N4)

Missing:
akrolsmir (Missing N1)
LadySuburu (Missing N2)
Lilac (Missing N3)

Rules:

General
1. No direct quoting of anything the mod PMs you.
2. No talking outside the thread unless your role states otherwise.
3. No editing or deleting of posts, think thoughts through before you post.
4. If you are dead don't talk, it's alright if you have "bah" post with no content, but anything else will result in getting a forum mod to delete the post, and a possible ban from future games of mine.
5. If the mod messes something up, promptly inform the mod.

Daytime
6. Daytime will last for a week, use the time wisely.
7. The purpose of day is to attempt to lynch the mafia or other anti-town factions.
8. A player will be lynched when the majority of players vote on him/her, or they have the majority of votes at day's end.
9. Voting is done is done in this format: Vote: Player
10. Unvoting is done is this format: Unvote

Night
11. Night will last 48 hours, use the time wisely.
12. All night actions will be sent at this time to the mod via PM.
13. If the action for night is not sent from a player, they will have no action.
14. The only exception is if the mafia doesn't send a kill, that will be randomized if not sent.

Activity
15. Try to post at least once every 48 hours.
16. If a player has not posted in 48 hours, they may be requested to be prodded.
17. A player has 24 hours to respond to a prod before replacement is seeked.
18. If a player has three prods, the next time they get prodded, they will be replaced.
19. Lack of a replacement will result in slot being modkilled.

Closing
20. Town wins when all threats to town are gone.
21. Any other faction will win when they control half the votes.
22. Overall, have fun with this.
LadySuburu
/In
akrolsmir
I'd like to get /in.
Sleep Powder
/inside me
Rantai
I just can't help myself.

/in
foulcoon
replacement please
0_o
I'll have limited internet access for the next 8 days, so if somehow the game still hasn't started by then then I'll join, but for now put me as a replacement.
adam2046

rust45 wrote:

16. If a player has not posted in 48 hours, they be requested to be prodded.
Harrr I be joining.
Kiddo-Kun
/in
Lybydose
k i'll join
Quaraezha
3rd Mafia Game I'll be in, hopefully I can catch up with everything

/in
Wojjan
If you want you can put me somewhere.
foulcoon
if you're actually looking to fill 12 slots you can put me /in instead of replacement, otherwise you have your 9 people now i think?
Topic Starter
rust45
12 will be most preferable, but 9-11 players will work as well, basically, I'm gonna wait for a day now to see if we can get 12 people.
Lilac
...

Fine.
Two_old
I'm pretty bored so I'll play too I guess
adam2046
Confirm.
Rantai
Confirm
Topic Starter
rust45
All roles have been sent! Now to wait until everyone confirms.
Quaraezha
Confirm
Kiddo-Kun
Confirm.
Lybydose
confirm
Lilac
Conf--

...

Confirmed.
akrolsmir
Confirmation.
Two_old
got it
LadySuburu
Yep.
Wojjan
hi
Sleep Powder
Confirmed.

Hi everybody~! :D
foulcoon
conffffirm'd
Topic Starter
rust45
Everyone has confirmed, game starting.

It is day 1, deadline is in one week.

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Two_old
vote: animask
Sleep Powder
Question: What do you think is the best role for you?

I'd be pretty good as a jester, because people seem to always be suspicious of me.
akrolsmir
Last to confirm was...vote: foulcoon
Two_old

akrolsmir wrote:

Last to confirm was...vote: foulcoon
Let's not pretend to random vote, now. You may as well have just roleclaimed

And animask, no one is going to believe that you're the jester.
LadySuburu

animask wrote:

Question: What do you think is the best role for you?
Any non-essential power role.
Sleep Powder

Two wrote:

akrolsmir wrote:

Last to confirm was...vote: foulcoon
Let's not pretend to random vote, now. You may as well have just roleclaimed

And animask, no one is going to believe that you're the jester.
and that's why it would be the best role for me...?
Two_old
what you quoted was me accusing you of trying to make people think you're the jester
Sleep Powder
or you're trying to get everyone to think that I'm trying to make everyone think that I'm the jester...
Two_old
No, I'm trying to make people notice that your fake question was prompted by a vote for you.
Sleep Powder
My question was just to avoid/stop the RV of Day 1.

Instead of random voting, we can start some kind of discussion.
adam2046

animask wrote:

Question: What do you think is the best role for you?
Anything that doesn't involve guessing what other people will do at night.
Maybe mafia is my most suited role...
Two_old
Yeah to stop "random" votes on you.
Sleep Powder
You're only saying that because my question came after your "random" vote for me.

At this point, both of us could be accused of using the "RV + Question" setup to raise
suspicion on the other. Since this is Day 1, meta-gaming will not be in my favor.

Instead of only focusing on me, we should try to get information out of everybody.
Two_old

animask wrote:

At this point, both of us could be accused of using the "RV + Question" setup to raise
suspicion on the other. Since this is Day 1, meta-gaming will not be in my favor.

Instead of only focusing on me, we should try to get information out of everybody.
How exactly have I used any sort of "RV+Question" setup? My vote wasn't random, and I haven't asked you a question.

No one else has posted anything suspicious besides akrolsmir, who has abstained from responding since I was right about him and he's a novice.

But again you try to deflect any way you can.
Sleep Powder
If your vote wasn't random, why did you vote for me?
foulcoon

akrolsmir wrote:

Last to confirm was...vote: foulcoon
Wow what a jackass. I was in the hospital for 2 days and was sleeping when the role PMs went out lol.

I know its an RV but damn, how cruel.
Kiddo-Kun
@Two: I'm not liking the way you jumped at animask for asking/answering a simple question.
FoS: Two

animask wrote:

Question: What do you think is the best role for you?
I'm not sure, but i think anything independent is best for me.
Wojjan
I'm not even gonna bother with that question.

God animask.

vote: Kiddo-Kun

that's exactly what Two does, every time.
akrolsmir

foulcoon wrote:

Wow what a jackass. I was in the hospital for 2 days and was sleeping when the role PMs went out lol.

I know its an RV but damn, how cruel.
Right... you've succeeded at making me feel bad, but I"ll keep my vote there for the appeal to emotion.
Lybydose
vote: LadySuburu
akrolsmir
(Er... I hope double posting is okay, preferable to editing.)

I don't actually understand Two's accusation against me... is random voting a scummy practice or something?
Lybydose
No he's just being Two.

Doublepost instead of editing. Bonus points if you use the acronym "EBWOP" in there somewhere.
Two_old
Substitute my name for "a genius" and I'll agree with you. Random votes are up there with "WIFOM" in the top-most echelons of mafia stupidity. You either are mafia claiming to pick a random person, or you're a townsperson purposely contributing nothing to the town. You don't have to wait until day 2 to get information. If you're going to make a vote, don't do it randomly.
Two_old
On that note, I'm convinced enough animask isn't mafia. unvote, vote lybydose
Sleep Powder
@Two, you forgot to answer my question about why you voted for me...

@Wojjan, you can answer the question in whatever way you want... you don't need to be specific
with a role/alignment.
adam2046

Two wrote:

I'm convinced enough animask isn't mafia.
We should lynch him just to be sure.
akrolsmir
FoS Quaraezha for being on, posting on other threads in Forum Games but not here.
Rantai

Wojjan wrote:

vote: Kiddo-Kun

that's exactly what Two does, every time.
Assuming that was your reason, you can't expect everyone to know each person's meta. Seems unreasonable to vote for someone based on that.

FoS: Wojjan
foulcoon
FoS: akrolsmir

all you're doing is voting/FoS'ing people who seem the least active. The game has just started and we have a week. I understand everyone wants information but being a jackass doesn't help much. Your aggression just makes you seem anxious/suspicious to me.

Also I'm not really sure if everyone is RVing right now. Lyby why did you vote for LadySuburu? Wojjan, why are you voting for someone for lack of meta-gaming knowledge?

Not voting quite yet because we haven't heard from everyone. I don't need you to answer animask's super awesome question, just talk guys.
Lybydose

Two wrote:

You either are mafia claiming to pick a random person, or you're a townsperson purposely contributing nothing to the town.
First post of the thread was you voting animask for no reason whatsoever. You may not have chosen it randomly, but it had just as much basis as a random vote or a "fake random vote because I don't actually have anything to go on so I'll just pick a guy for a stupid reason", which is either none, or "I wanted to vote this guy to get him to to talk or put him on the defensive".

Also discrediting WIFOM is incredibly stupid to the point where I can't tell if you're serious or just trolling.
Two_old

Lybydose wrote:

First post of the thread was you voting animask for no reason whatsoever. You may not have chosen it randomly, but it had just as much basis as a random vote or a "fake random vote because I don't actually have anything to go on so I'll just pick a guy for a stupid reason", which is either none, or "I wanted to vote this guy to get him to to talk or put him on the defensive".

Also discrediting WIFOM is incredibly stupid to the point where I can't tell if you're serious or just trolling.
1. don't assume things, mafia

2. "WIFOM" (I feel disgusting even typing that out, by the way) is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. This game's very core is picking posts, parts of posts etc. and deciding what they are most likely to mean.

I guess your vote for ladysuburu was "random". Or maybe you voted for them because you know for a fact they aren't aligned with you.
Lybydose
I guess your vote for ladysuburu was "random". Or maybe you voted for them because you know for a fact they aren't aligned with you.
I guess your vote for animask was "random". Or maybe you voted for them because you know for a fact they aren't aligned with you.

don't assume things, mafia
adam2046
Ok, so we've now established Lybydose and Two are mafia.
Two_old
no, we've established that lybydose can't form an argument

and likes to roleclaim mafia every other post
Lybydose
why do I need to form an argument when I can just use yours?
Wojjan

foulcoon wrote:

Wojjan, why are you voting for someone for lack of meta-gaming knowledge?
Voting two because he votes someone else is beyond stupid.
LadySuburu
HoS: Lybydose

FoS: Two
foulcoon
While I find Two's argument hilarious and hypocritical, I have to agree that Lybydose's reaction catches my attention quite a bit more.

Fos: Lybydose
Quaraezha
Question: What do you think is the best role for you?
I honestly have no idea, I end up getting Nightkilled/Lynched when I'm Townie, so I might as well be Mafia.
akrolsmir
Still suspicious of Quaraezha on the basis of ignoring all the previous posts besides the random question...

foulcoon wrote:

While I find Two's argument hilarious and hypocritical, I have to agree that Lybydose's reaction catches my attention quite a bit more.

Fos: Lybydose
Lybydose's responses just seem like the ones I would make if I were faced with a self-contradicting set of arguments like that.

That said, I'm still unsure about you, but for now Unvote, FoS: Two
Two_old
I would appreciate it if you people would stop being purposely apprehensive and start voting instead. fos and hos is almost as bad as wifom, I mean it advertises your aversion to direct conflict
akrolsmir
Okay.

Vote: Two
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

I would appreciate it if you people would stop being purposely apprehensive and start voting instead. fos and hos is almost as bad as wifom, I mean it advertises your aversion to direct conflict
I'm not quite convinced enough to vote yet. Why are you in such a rush to get votes on people?

HoS: Two
adam2046
Well then, may as well get started.
Vote: akrosloslymir

akrolsmir wrote:

Lybydose's responses just seem like the ones I would make if I were faced with a self-contradicting set of arguments like that.
I don't really like these sorts of lines. "Well that's exactly what I'd do so it's fine!"
It looks more like you're trying to defend lybydose from everyone.

Lybydose has only pointed out things Two said in response to things Two said without revealing anything about himself. This leads me to believe he is MAFIA. Two will most likely die night 1 if he is not mafia.

Everything I say is absolutely true and you should blindly follow me.
Two_old

adam2046 wrote:

Two will most likely die night 1 if he is not mafia.
Rule #1 of mafia games: Two dies night 1 without fail. Mafia or not.

I honestly cannot remember a game where I wasn't killed or supposed to be killed night 1.

LadySuburu wrote:

Why are you in such a rush to get votes on people?
I don't really believe this is a real question but I'll bite: I really think the only reason anyone would use hos or fos is if they're mafia/aux and bad at the game. There really is no point to doing either of them unless the person is vulnerable to lynching, other than not having yourself on record as voting for them. There's also the convenience of never having to unvote so you can hos and fos everyone eventually without people picking up on it.
LadySuburu

Two wrote:

I don't really believe this is a real question but I'll bite: I really think the only reason anyone would use hos or fos is if they're mafia/aux and bad at the game. There really is no point to doing either of them unless the person is vulnerable to lynching, other than not having yourself on record as voting for them. There's also the convenience of never having to unvote so you can hos and fos everyone eventually without people picking up on it.
I can see how you'd see it that way. However, any good player will also watch and keep track of the HoS and FoS's, as well as attacks made. Then you analyze them and see if there's anything suspicious about it.

I've grown to dislike RVS while playing and watching the last few games since it gives virtually nothing to town, and I also dislike voting for someone before I'm convinced unless it's very near deadline which is the exact reason I use HoS or FoS. If I didn't show any of my suspicions I'm giving no information at all other than that I'm not posting.
akrolsmir

adam2046 wrote:

I don't really like these sorts of lines. "Well that's exactly what I'd do so it's fine!"
It looks more like you're trying to defend lybydose from everyone.
Sorry for hitting upon a pet peeve... tell me then, what would you do in his place? I'll go on record stating that I don't believe lybydose is scum, but really my statement was to explain my suspicion of Two. I really don't see how making hypocritical accusations is good town behavior, unless you're trying to get a rise out of the accusee... but town and scum alike will respond to bad logic in the same ways, so what's the point?
adam2046

akrolsmir wrote:

what would you do in his place?
1. Not begin yet another Two argument designed entirely to benefit Two.
2. Start a more productive conversation about you designed entirely to benefit me.

akrolsmir wrote:

I really don't see how making hypocritical accusations is good town behavior, unless you're trying to get a rise out of the accusee... but town and scum alike will respond to bad logic in the same ways, so what's the point?
Can you back up that claim?
Two_old
Vote Count:

Kiddo-Kun - 1 (Wojjan)
LadySuburu - 1 (Lybydose)
Lybydose - 1 (Two)
Two - 1 (akrolsmir)
akrolsmir - 1 (adam2046)

Vote History Chronologically:

Two votes for animask
akrolsmir votes for foulcoon
Wojjan votes for Kiddo-Kun
Lybydose votes for LadySuburu
Two votes for Lybydose (unvote)
akrolsmir votes for Two (unvote)
adam2046 votes for akrolsmir

Not Voting:

LadySuburu
animask
Rantai
Kiddo-Kun
Quaraezha
foulcoon
Lilac

Post Count: (ascending)

Lilac: 0
Kiddo-Kun: 1
Quaraezha: 1
Rantai: 1
Wojjan: 2
foulcoon: 3
LadySuburu: 4
adam2046: 5
Lybydose: 5
akrolsmir: 7
animask: 7
Two: 13 (with this)

That's interesting, Lilac.
akrolsmir

adam2046 wrote:

Can you back up that claim?
When you're attacked with faulty reasoning, your only recourse is to point out the gaps in logic regardless of alignment. You can't verify or pretend to be town without playing by the same framework that they are using, in which case you are using bad logic yourself. Why would you want to do that when you could point out the error of their case?

Using good logic is the way to catch people because town can explain their actions while scum have to make something up, and then the accuser can use the difference to make a judgement.

Two wrote:

That's interesting, Lilac.
I maintain that Quaraezha, too, is suspicious for posting absolutely nothing of substance. And you're suspicious for being so apparently helpful.
Quaraezha
Don't be too suspicious just because I am inactive/lurking.
I just happen to be occupied with other stuff to read much of what is going on.
And from what I read so far, it's just some arguments from mostly Two and Lyby.
Two_old
I'm the most helpful person in every game. Just look at my post count and intellect.

Quaraezha is like animask. They both join mafia games just to troll the hell out of them. Quaraezha does this by posting everywhere except the mafia thread, while animask does it by pretending not to read posts at all or fully. I don't think quaraezha acting exactly like he always does is suspicious at all.

You sure are for not wanting people to help the town.
akrolsmir

Quaraezha wrote:

Don't be too suspicious just because I am inactive/lurking.
I just happen to be occupied with other stuff to read much of what is going on.
And from what I read so far, it's just some arguments from mostly Two and Lyby.
Still not much in terms of substance. Whatever happened to "lynch all lurkers"? Wait, I'll bet Two doesn't approve of that either.

Speaking of which, Two's defense of Q seems like trying to protect his scumbuddy. Two's argument boils down to "we're doing what we always do." I don't know if meta is an acceptable defense in this context or not, but my feeling was that he was trying too hard to prove that he was town. Why go to such lengths unless he isn't?
Two_old
akrsolsmir: quaraezha is shady for not posting here
me: um he does that all the time even when he's town
aksfoskrmir: omg you both are mafia since you corrected me

that's ok though I know you are really trying to just get the thread to the next page so that some people won't read the vote count stuff
akrolsmir

Two wrote:

that's ok though I know you are really trying to just get the thread to the next page so that some people won't read the vote count stuff
As if you couldn't post it again on the next page? Also, you seem to think that something in there incriminates me, I'd like to hear what.
Two_old
something doesn't have to incriminate you but I like how defensive you are

it's just your job as the informed minority to keep the majority solidly uninformed
akrolsmir
Earlier:

Two wrote:

i called him scum and he didn't reply clearly he's scum
Now:

Two wrote:

i called him scum and he replied clearly he's scum
Sleep Powder
I don't troll. I just add some character to this game.

Also, saying that you're the most helpful and intelligent seems kind of suspicious... or at least obnoxious.

AND your playstyle doesn't benefit town as much as you think it does. I get the feeling that
you are trying to get people to appeal to emotion by acting like this. That's what you did with me?

BUT I see what you're trying to say about the voting rather than
FoS/HoS thing. People could get distracted by the FoS/HoS and forget about who the person originally
voted for.

Quaraezha, you always join these games, but never fully give attention to them. I'm
starting to think that you should stop playing these games. But I noticed something when you
answered my question... You say that you keep getting lynched/nightkilled so you might as well be mafia.
Why the focus on mafia? There are other roles that benefit from being a target like jester and the bus driver.
Almost FoS worthy, but you don't talk much so I can't really get much out of you...

akrolsmir, you seem to be focusing on logic and logical errors. I don't really know you're playstyle so I am
getting a townie-tell from you based on the information you are giving us.
Sleep Powder
First part was directed at Two btw
Two_old

animask wrote:

Also, saying that you're the most helpful and intelligent seems kind of suspicious... or at least obnoxious.
I was going for cute. Why won't you ever find me cute, animask?
foulcoon
Vote: akrolsmir

I don't know what animask was talking about. His play-style doesn't focus on logical flaws, instead it focuses on the defense of illogical play style such as random voting and lynching lurkers.

He also takes time to focus attention on lurkers but doesn't do enough research to target the other people who have yet to vote. I'm not going to speculate at this point as to why he doesn't mention the other people lurking, but I'll instead give him a chance to explain himself. Honestly I don't understand why someone pro-town would take this much effort day one on painting someone as scum. I guess other than Two he has stated that he finds a good number of other people suspicious... Big deal? I find all of you fuckers suspicious.

I find that the people who stand the most defensive on day 1 tend to be town as mafia is typically lurking / trying to stay out of the spotlight. However, its not that you're on the defensive because someone directly targeted you, but because you are attacking other players and they are "fighting back".

tl;dr: akrolsmir finds everyone suspicious, focuses a lot of attention on Two, and for some reason only targeted one lurker when there was actually others. He is definitely top 3 as far as my mafia predictions go at this point.
akrolsmir

foulcoon wrote:

akrolsmir finds everyone suspicious
... you answered this yourself:

foulcoon wrote:

Big deal? I find all of you fuckers suspicious.
Also, two or three people != everyone.


foulcoon wrote:

focuses a lot of attention on Two
Two focuses a lot of attention on himself. And what you said about attacking other players and having them fight back- this is supposed to be bad/scummy?


foulcoon wrote:

and for some reason only targeted one lurker when there was actually others.
Er, we get one vote each and one lynch per day. Feel free to make a case for any of the others (Lilac still has 0 posts), I'm targeting Q because he explicitly stated he was lurking/inactive.


foulcoon wrote:

He is definitely top 3 as far as my mafia predictions go at this point.
I'd like to hear who else has the distinction of being in there, btw. My top 3 would be Two, Q, and... Lilac?
Lybydose
prod lilac please
Quaraezha
Alright, finally had the time to read all the posts (Rushed it though)
Currently at my School's Library and internet is kinda slow, so I won't quote anyposts for now.
I'll just post whatever I can and remember for now.

1.
Nobody seems to be protecting akrolsmir at the moment since most are attacking him.
So if akrolsmir is really Mafia, another Mafia wouldn't normally attack him as well, especially in Day 1.
If that's the case, the other Mafia members are luerkers, since they haven't protected/attacked anyone yet.

2.
I find it really awkward being (somehow) protected by Two,
but I guess that was just to convince akrolsmir of my playstyle.
Two has always been the type to make brutal (?) posts, and that's just Two being Two,
I can't really tell if he's Town or Mafia atm.
Although, he seems to be more aggressive and protective in this game to the previous ones I've played with him,
not sure why. But that's just my opinions.

3.
So about me being active in the other forums except this one.
The other threads aren't serious as Mafia Games, and I wasn't really in the mood to play Mafia or think too hard.
And animask, about me not joining anymore Mafia Games, that's silly.
I'm here for the same reason you are, just to add more characters.
It's fun to have a Mafia Game with different kinds of people.

Well, that's all I can say for now, I have classes in a few minutes.
I'll just add my other thoughts later when I get home or whatever.
akrolsmir
Fine I guess Q's off the "lurking" category for now.

Because apparently I'm supposed to be fair and accuse everyone:

Rantai, Wojjan and Kiddo-kun have the next-least number of posts (besides Lilac of course). I find it interesting that they've basically spent their one post accusing each other, and then... nothing. If they are mafia, they're doing a pretty good job.
Topic Starter
rust45
Lilac has been prodded.
Lilac
Yeah, I already knew this was happening... No need to prod me.

Two's being like he always is. Except when he said something about trying to be cute...that really freaked me out.

Only reason I wasn't posting is because there is nothing TO post. However, I must confess, there is a lot since I came back from school, I'll be reading now.
Lilac
Going through again, I'm thinking Doc (Lybydose) ISN'T Mafia because by prodding me and also acting more than he does usually obviously doesn't seem like his Mafia playstyle in TF2 Mafia. (Not to mention he's just drawing more attention to himself...) Then again, that Mafia was probably really unbalanced with his simple roleclaim as Cop.

Qua being nonchalant and useless (BTW, I never use the word 'useless' in a negative connotation.) as usual meant that he probably is town. This is of course being judged from NoHItter's Island Mafia game. (I forgot the exact name but keep with me here.)

akrolsmir seems to be a newbie who wants to contribute, not necessarily helpful but considering the irony of that statement, it's probably because he's trying too hard.

...This is mainly for the people who believe in meta and some of my own observations and what not. I'll probably contribute more but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.
Rantai

akrolsmir wrote:

Rantai, Wojjan and Kiddo-kun have the next-least number of posts (besides Lilac of course)
Addressing my posting, I can only post for a 5-7 hour window starting from around this time otherwise I am unavailable. Unfortunately this thread moves when I'm not awake/available.

--

As it stands I feel...

I'm willing to believe Two is not mafia at this stage. I will admit I've never played properly with him before but regardless, I don't consider meta as a good way to analyse/compare behavior patterns. Right now I'm feeling it's way too aggressive play, coupled with hypocrisy and the like I think it's just reaction fishing in an attempt to weed out suspicious people.

Speaking of reactions, I'm not sure what to make of Lybydose's reactions. It seems like he gave up trying to argue with Two due to his hypocrisy. Whether that means he's not bothering with him anymore or ran out of ideas, I'm not convinced either way.

akrolsmir's posting is striking me as odd. As far as I can tell his whole attack play has revolved around 'go after the quiet ones'. Sounds like a convenient excuse to cast suspicion at.

I still don't like how Wojjan was still pushing a vote based on a lack of meta knowledge but he/she hasn't posted much since so I'm not sure where to go with this feeling.

Nobody seems to be protecting akrolsmir at the moment since most are attacking him.
So if akrolsmir is really Mafia, another Mafia wouldn't normally attack him as well, especially in Day 1.
If that's the case, the other Mafia members are luerkers, since they haven't protected/attacked anyone yet.
This actually makes quite a bit of sense except there is a possibility that a mafia may be attacking him to keep distance, even in day 1.


Lilac wrote:

I'll probably contribute more but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.
Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.

Also;

adam2046 wrote:

Lybydose has only pointed out things Two said in response to things Two said without revealing anything about himself. This leads me to believe he is MAFIA
Somethings probably not clicking right for me but I'd love to know how that works.
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