No he's just being Two.
Doublepost instead of editing. Bonus points if you use the acronym "EBWOP" in there somewhere.
Doublepost instead of editing. Bonus points if you use the acronym "EBWOP" in there somewhere.
We should lynch him just to be sure.Two wrote:
I'm convinced enough animask isn't mafia.
Assuming that was your reason, you can't expect everyone to know each person's meta. Seems unreasonable to vote for someone based on that.Wojjan wrote:
vote: Kiddo-Kun
that's exactly what Two does, every time.
First post of the thread was you voting animask for no reason whatsoever. You may not have chosen it randomly, but it had just as much basis as a random vote or a "fake random vote because I don't actually have anything to go on so I'll just pick a guy for a stupid reason", which is either none, or "I wanted to vote this guy to get him to to talk or put him on the defensive".Two wrote:
You either are mafia claiming to pick a random person, or you're a townsperson purposely contributing nothing to the town.
1. don't assume things, mafiaLybydose wrote:
First post of the thread was you voting animask for no reason whatsoever. You may not have chosen it randomly, but it had just as much basis as a random vote or a "fake random vote because I don't actually have anything to go on so I'll just pick a guy for a stupid reason", which is either none, or "I wanted to vote this guy to get him to to talk or put him on the defensive".
Also discrediting WIFOM is incredibly stupid to the point where I can't tell if you're serious or just trolling.
I guess your vote for ladysuburu was "random". Or maybe you voted for them because you know for a fact they aren't aligned with you.I guess your vote for animask was "random". Or maybe you voted for them because you know for a fact they aren't aligned with you.
Voting two because he votes someone else is beyond stupid.foulcoon wrote:
Wojjan, why are you voting for someone for lack of meta-gaming knowledge?
Question: What do you think is the best role for you?I honestly have no idea, I end up getting Nightkilled/Lynched when I'm Townie, so I might as well be Mafia.
Lybydose's responses just seem like the ones I would make if I were faced with a self-contradicting set of arguments like that.foulcoon wrote:
While I find Two's argument hilarious and hypocritical, I have to agree that Lybydose's reaction catches my attention quite a bit more.
Fos: Lybydose
I'm not quite convinced enough to vote yet. Why are you in such a rush to get votes on people?Two wrote:
I would appreciate it if you people would stop being purposely apprehensive and start voting instead. fos and hos is almost as bad as wifom, I mean it advertises your aversion to direct conflict
I don't really like these sorts of lines. "Well that's exactly what I'd do so it's fine!"akrolsmir wrote:
Lybydose's responses just seem like the ones I would make if I were faced with a self-contradicting set of arguments like that.
Rule #1 of mafia games: Two dies night 1 without fail. Mafia or not.adam2046 wrote:
Two will most likely die night 1 if he is not mafia.
I don't really believe this is a real question but I'll bite: I really think the only reason anyone would use hos or fos is if they're mafia/aux and bad at the game. There really is no point to doing either of them unless the person is vulnerable to lynching, other than not having yourself on record as voting for them. There's also the convenience of never having to unvote so you can hos and fos everyone eventually without people picking up on it.LadySuburu wrote:
Why are you in such a rush to get votes on people?
I can see how you'd see it that way. However, any good player will also watch and keep track of the HoS and FoS's, as well as attacks made. Then you analyze them and see if there's anything suspicious about it.Two wrote:
I don't really believe this is a real question but I'll bite: I really think the only reason anyone would use hos or fos is if they're mafia/aux and bad at the game. There really is no point to doing either of them unless the person is vulnerable to lynching, other than not having yourself on record as voting for them. There's also the convenience of never having to unvote so you can hos and fos everyone eventually without people picking up on it.
Sorry for hitting upon a pet peeve... tell me then, what would you do in his place? I'll go on record stating that I don't believe lybydose is scum, but really my statement was to explain my suspicion of Two. I really don't see how making hypocritical accusations is good town behavior, unless you're trying to get a rise out of the accusee... but town and scum alike will respond to bad logic in the same ways, so what's the point?adam2046 wrote:
I don't really like these sorts of lines. "Well that's exactly what I'd do so it's fine!"
It looks more like you're trying to defend lybydose from everyone.
1. Not begin yet another Two argument designed entirely to benefit Two.akrolsmir wrote:
what would you do in his place?
Can you back up that claim?akrolsmir wrote:
I really don't see how making hypocritical accusations is good town behavior, unless you're trying to get a rise out of the accusee... but town and scum alike will respond to bad logic in the same ways, so what's the point?
When you're attacked with faulty reasoning, your only recourse is to point out the gaps in logic regardless of alignment. You can't verify or pretend to be town without playing by the same framework that they are using, in which case you are using bad logic yourself. Why would you want to do that when you could point out the error of their case?adam2046 wrote:
Can you back up that claim?
I maintain that Quaraezha, too, is suspicious for posting absolutely nothing of substance. And you're suspicious for being so apparently helpful.Two wrote:
That's interesting, Lilac.
Still not much in terms of substance. Whatever happened to "lynch all lurkers"? Wait, I'll bet Two doesn't approve of that either.Quaraezha wrote:
Don't be too suspicious just because I am inactive/lurking.
I just happen to be occupied with other stuff to read much of what is going on.
And from what I read so far, it's just some arguments from mostly Two and Lyby.
As if you couldn't post it again on the next page? Also, you seem to think that something in there incriminates me, I'd like to hear what.Two wrote:
that's ok though I know you are really trying to just get the thread to the next page so that some people won't read the vote count stuff
Now:Two wrote:
i called him scum and he didn't reply clearly he's scum
Two wrote:
i called him scum and he replied clearly he's scum
I was going for cute. Why won't you ever find me cute, animask?animask wrote:
Also, saying that you're the most helpful and intelligent seems kind of suspicious... or at least obnoxious.
... you answered this yourself:foulcoon wrote:
akrolsmir finds everyone suspicious
Also, two or three people != everyone.foulcoon wrote:
Big deal? I find all of you fuckers suspicious.
Two focuses a lot of attention on himself. And what you said about attacking other players and having them fight back- this is supposed to be bad/scummy?foulcoon wrote:
focuses a lot of attention on Two
Er, we get one vote each and one lynch per day. Feel free to make a case for any of the others (Lilac still has 0 posts), I'm targeting Q because he explicitly stated he was lurking/inactive.foulcoon wrote:
and for some reason only targeted one lurker when there was actually others.
I'd like to hear who else has the distinction of being in there, btw. My top 3 would be Two, Q, and... Lilac?foulcoon wrote:
He is definitely top 3 as far as my mafia predictions go at this point.
Addressing my posting, I can only post for a 5-7 hour window starting from around this time otherwise I am unavailable. Unfortunately this thread moves when I'm not awake/available.akrolsmir wrote:
Rantai, Wojjan and Kiddo-kun have the next-least number of posts (besides Lilac of course)
Nobody seems to be protecting akrolsmir at the moment since most are attacking him.This actually makes quite a bit of sense except there is a possibility that a mafia may be attacking him to keep distance, even in day 1.
So if akrolsmir is really Mafia, another Mafia wouldn't normally attack him as well, especially in Day 1.
If that's the case, the other Mafia members are luerkers, since they haven't protected/attacked anyone yet.
Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.Lilac wrote:
I'll probably contribute more but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.
Somethings probably not clicking right for me but I'd love to know how that works.adam2046 wrote:
Lybydose has only pointed out things Two said in response to things Two said without revealing anything about himself. This leads me to believe he is MAFIA
You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I know it's in most people's minds that it is but I really did it in order to get a good grasp of Day 1. However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.Rantai wrote:
Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.
ha ha ha ha ha?Lilac wrote:
You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I know it's in most people's minds that it is but I really did it in order to get a good grasp of Day 1. However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.Rantai wrote:
Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.
Because being Mafia is cool, but really, fuck it. It's a tough job.animask wrote:
Quaraezha, But I noticed something when you answered my question...
You say that you keep getting lynched/nightkilled so you might as well be mafia.
Why the focus on mafia? There are other roles that benefit from being a target like jester and the bus driver.
Almost FoS worthy, but you don't talk much so I can't really get much out of you...
really? That irritates me to the point in which I want to vote for you so bad. The sad part is you're probably not mafia because no mafia member would be willing to admit that they're staying under the radar and not posting on purpose.Lilac wrote:
but I really didn't want to post until Day 2.
Er, actually, no. Others have referenced the fact that I'm a newbie which is completely true.Quaraezha wrote:
Have you played any other Mafia Games before?
I agree about wanting to hear from him, but so far your past opinions have basically been "everyone's acting normal and must be town". It doesn't seem quite scummy, but also not quite helpful.Lilac wrote:
Actually, I want to hear from Kiddo-kun because he's the only one I haven't formulated an opinion on.
Yes it does. That's exactly scummy. Why isn't Lilac suspicious of anyone?akrolsmir wrote:
It doesn't seem quite scummy, but also not quite helpful.
that's what I was trying to find the words for earlier, but I couldn't write it properly so I went to bedWojjan wrote:
Yes it does. That's exactly scummy. Why isn't Lilac suspicious of anyone?
Playstyles vary. I've seen mafia who will latch on to a player and attack them viciously on D1.Two wrote:
I noticed that when I was mafia in a recent game, I would spend the majority of my time explaining why someone probably isn't mafia and I rarely attacked anyone. I don't think most mafia will seriously (not "random vote", not "maybe, looks, might be") attack anyone unless it's already been initiated by someone else on day 1.
He does seem to be bandwagoning a bit, just spitting out what others have said without coming up with anything original.( But then I'm probably going to be slightly biased regarding that)Two wrote:
unvote, vote Kiddo-Kun
Why does this feel like you're only attacking him because he voted you...akrolsmir wrote:
He does seem to be bandwagoning a bit, just spitting out what others have said without coming up with anything original.( But then I'm probably going to be slightly biased regarding that)
Because my play was pretty bad and each post led someone else to suspect me, so I decided to shut up and listen to what others had to say about it.Two wrote:
akrolsmir: why are you lurking?
conveniently leaving LadySuburu out, I'm on to youfoulcoon wrote:
@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.
Would like to hear from:
animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir
Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
watLybydose wrote:
conveniently leaving LadySuburu out, I'm on to youfoulcoon wrote:
@Two according to mod it would actually take 2 more (7 votes) to lynch akrolsmir.
Would like to hear from:
animask
Rantai
Quaraezha
Lilac
akrolsmir
Who do you find suspicious? Kiddo-Kun? akrolsmir? someone else?
I assume he was saying that you left out LadySuburu with your "who do you find suspicious?" question, but you can never be too sure with the challenged.foulcoon wrote:
wat
I used Two's list of people not voting... LadySuburu isn't on it. Is LS voting kiddo? There at least was an FoS or HoS so I already have my answer?
1. mafia can't talk during the dayanimask wrote:
Firstly, I've been keeping track of the votes and unvotes. (No, I just looked at Two's post) I have a general
suspicion on everyone who has been messing with the votes. (Mostly Lybydose) If Two and Lybydose were mafia
they could be easily be using a strategy of some kind with voting. I've noticed that Two hasn't said anything to Lybydose
about his votes.
Shouldn't he have been thinking that in the first place? If you were a townie you can't be helpful if you don't say anything.Lilac wrote:
You make it sound like that's a bad thing. I know it's in most people's minds that it is but I really did it in order to get a good grasp of Day 1. However, now that I think about it, contributing in Day 1 actually makes it better for you to understand the situation.Rantai wrote:
Why would that be? Sounds like you're trying to avoid attention.
You wanted people to use votes instead of FoS/HoS. He used votes instead of FoS/HoS.Two wrote:
1. mafia can't talk during the day
2. masons can
3. I've actually commented on his last two votes, maybe even all of his votes who knows
4. I'm not a mason
He hasn't said anything at all. Has he?Two wrote:
I really don't understand your question