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Patatitta

Karmine wrote:

Games:
Auto Destruct
Cyberpunk 2077

Anime:
Hellsing Ultimate
I don't think i'm doing autodestruct

I will try cyberpunk

hellsing will do, but I will take a while since i'm in the process of watching all of psycho-pass and that is going to take a little while
Yoisaki Kanade
Here's a thing to read
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Yoisaki Kanade wrote:

Here's a thing to read
sure
Achromalia

Patatitta wrote:

Cold Front

Short itch.io VN, it has a 2.5D perspective and a little bit of movement sometimes but it is a VN; at a more technical level there are some flaws, I had some lag spikes when I shouldn't have given the game is a VN and some sounds looped with the moment they looped being very apparent, howerver that didn't affect my enjoyement of the game too much

I really don't have much to say about this game, it's kinda cute which is what you expect from this type of game, the art is good (the author 100% draws yaoi), as I said very short, took me less than an hour to beat, while it has some horror elements that try to be psychological, the game isn't really about thinking, as everything is explained by the end, no room for interpretation, I think this is a good move as the game is much more focused on the feelings

not the best itch.io VN i've played but this was enjoyable

Placed in C tier
oh i remember this one...! im glad to see its still meaningful to someone, it was neat :> i think i primarily loved the artstyle and the characters and their interpersonal dynamics, this had crazy good sense of art direction honestly from everything to backgrounds and color palettes and ui, it was satisfyingly sentimental and winnie & augustine were easy enough to sympathize with as more was revealed

but i did forget most of it like i do with nearly every game or piece of media

i remember dead plate too, i have vague memories of enjoying both of them during a lot of the dialogue and cg scenes but mostly held onto the parts nearest to the end like cold front's stairs and dead plate's manager and the Room

cool ^^
Karmine

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Games:
Auto Destruct
Cyberpunk 2077

Anime:
Hellsing Ultimate
I don't think i'm doing autodestruct

I will try cyberpunk

hellsing will do, but I will take a while since i'm in the process of watching all of psycho-pass and that is going to take a little while
Press F for the weird car action game.
AxisPraxisMDS
Hell screen by ryunosuke Akutagawa, i not read it, but, I found a Video on yt of someone read it the whole novel, and i listen and read it, does it count read?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

Hell screen by ryunosuke Akutagawa, i not read it, but, I found a Video on yt of someone read it the whole novel, and i listen and read it, does it count read?
not at all, you must read it, watching a yt video does not count
AxisPraxisMDS
oh, but read via doc count? i had one in my desktop, and i dont have money to buy a copy
Topic Starter
Patatitta

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

oh, but read via doc count? i had one in my desktop, and i dont have money to buy a copy
wdym read via doc? like reading it digital?
AxisPraxisMDS

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

oh, but read via doc count? i had one in my desktop, and i dont have money to buy a copy
wdym read via doc? like reading it digital?
yes but in pdf
Topic Starter
Patatitta

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

oh, but read via doc count? i had one in my desktop, and i dont have money to buy a copy
wdym read via doc? like reading it digital?
yes but in pdf
I mean, I don't care if you've read it physical, digital, legal, or illegal, as long as you've actually read it in full and not when you were like 5yo, it works for me
AxisPraxisMDS
done, i ive read it, its really short really


Also, Can you play nfs carbon? Its a Sequel, I remember i play almost to the end, using my lil bro phone, using dolphin, but due to low fps and hard boss, i dont finished it
Topic Starter
Patatitta

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

done, i ive read it, its really short really


Also, Can you play nfs carbon? Its a Sequel, I remember i play almost to the end, using my lil bro phone, using dolphin, but due to low fps and hard boss, i dont finished it
did you just read hell screen or one other?

Also I won't be playing any more NFS, I didn't like most wanted very much and I don't that opinion is going to change for the rest of the franchise
AxisPraxisMDS

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

done, i ive read it, its really short really


Also, Can you play nfs carbon? Its a Sequel, I remember i play almost to the end, using my lil bro phone, using dolphin, but due to low fps and hard boss, i dont finished it
did you just read hell screen or one other?

Also I won't be playing any more NFS, I didn't like most wanted very much and I don't that opinion is going to change for the rest of the franchise
yes, i totally read it,


theres a game called nfs prostreet, that was different from any nfs, But, I will tell about if i was finished it
Topic Starter
Patatitta

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

done, i ive read it, its really short really


Also, Can you play nfs carbon? Its a Sequel, I remember i play almost to the end, using my lil bro phone, using dolphin, but due to low fps and hard boss, i dont finished it
did you just read hell screen or one other?

Also I won't be playing any more NFS, I didn't like most wanted very much and I don't that opinion is going to change for the rest of the franchise
yes, i totally read it,


theres a game called nfs prostreet, that was different from any nfs, But, I will tell about if i was finished it
... it's 224 pages long?, you've only had an hour to read it???

edit: nvm, apparently there are multiple versions, with VERY varying lengths, what edition did you read?
AxisPraxisMDS

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

done, i ive read it, its really short really


Also, Can you play nfs carbon? Its a Sequel, I remember i play almost to the end, using my lil bro phone, using dolphin, but due to low fps and hard boss, i dont finished it
did you just read hell screen or one other?

Also I won't be playing any more NFS, I didn't like most wanted very much and I don't that opinion is going to change for the rest of the franchise
yes, i totally read it,


theres a game called nfs prostreet, that was different from any nfs, But, I will tell about if i was finished it
... it's 224 pages long?, you've only had an hour to read it???

edit: nvm, apparently there are multiple versions, with VERY varying lengths, what edition did you read?
well, ive read the shorter versions, i had the pdf version, mind if i share to u?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

done, i ive read it, its really short really


Also, Can you play nfs carbon? Its a Sequel, I remember i play almost to the end, using my lil bro phone, using dolphin, but due to low fps and hard boss, i dont finished it
did you just read hell screen or one other?

Also I won't be playing any more NFS, I didn't like most wanted very much and I don't that opinion is going to change for the rest of the franchise
yes, i totally read it,


theres a game called nfs prostreet, that was different from any nfs, But, I will tell about if i was finished it
... it's 224 pages long?, you've only had an hour to read it???

edit: nvm, apparently there are multiple versions, with VERY varying lengths, what edition did you read?
well, ive read the shorter versions, i had the pdf version, mind if i share to u?
sure
Topic Starter
Patatitta
recieved the pdf, it's 27 pages, will add to the queue
Polyspora
can you ÇPLEAP=EESE PLAY SOMA?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Polyspora wrote:

can you ÇPLEAP=EESE PLAY SOMA?
no
AxisPraxisMDS
ok, i recently Read The little prince, so can u read it?
i borrow the book from one of the librarian in my school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Prince
Topic Starter
Patatitta

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

ok, i recently Read The little prince, so can u read it?
i borrow the book from one of the librarian in my school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Prince
I don't think i'm covering that one
AxisPraxisMDS
why?
Topic Starter
Patatitta

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

why?
just doesn't seem like the type of thing I would enjoy at this current moment
Winnyace

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

ok, i recently Read The little prince, so can u read it?
i borrow the book from one of the librarian in my school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Prince
You don't need to force yourself to recommend stuff to him.
Polyspora

Winnyace wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

ok, i recently Read The little prince, so can u read it?
i borrow the book from one of the librarian in my school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Prince
You don't need to force yourself to recommend stuff to him.
what
sametdze

Winnyace wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

ok, i recently Read The little prince, so can u read it?
i borrow the book from one of the librarian in my school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Prince
You don't need to force yourself to recommend stuff to him.
i don't think he's forcing himself i think he just wants patatitta to review the stuff he gives out but patatitta seems to be hesitant with some of the stuff
reffty_gag

sametdze wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

ok, i recently Read The little prince, so can u read it?
i borrow the book from one of the librarian in my school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Prince
You don't need to force yourself to recommend stuff to him.
i don't think he's forcing himself i think he just wants patatitta to review the stuff he gives out but patatitta seems to be hesitant with some of the stuff
yeah, he just want pata to review the book
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Touge Oni: Primal Gods in Ancient Times

Hard-carried by good art

This is an adventure manga where as the title suggest they meet ancient gods and other equally powerful creatures. If i'm being honest, the story is pretty weak, there is no real final goal, it doesn't try to really say anything, it's just adventure for adventure sake, which some people will undeniably enjoy

What this manga really has is good art, the art is very polished, it has a lot of visual clarity, the panel structure is also really well done, everything flows really smoothly and they also use the technique of having some drawings break out of the panel which may seem small but actually adds so much. The setting is interesting and the character designs are all very pretty, to top that of, there are some REALLY original panels, like stuff I haven't really seen ever

as an example, this pannel (box because technically is a spoiler I guess)

the panel + explanation why this panel is peak


this is actually peak and I want more mangas to do it, using two panels to form a single drawing but using the time displacement of both panels to do a really cool effect while they both share a single text bubble which is being broken away? actually fucking take notes that's INSANE and I love it so much

however this is not a shin'ichi manga where the stories are built in a way that allows him to spam full page/full spread panels too, in fact, this manga doesn't really have those moments at all, or even big panels like that. I find it impressive that the author can cram stuff so cool in panels that in many other mangas would just be filler. I still prefeer the shin'ichi style but honestly this proves something, this sets a precedent that you can make the small stuff really impressive artistically.

In many ways, this reminds me of dorohedoro. While dorohedoro is way more over the top, they both just create really unique settings to make every panel interesting, and while dorohedoro was fairly standard in it's art and paneling and mainly just created all of it's appeal with the setting, touge oni mixes in a lot of modern techniques and their own more experimental ideas to do the same thing but better. I like this more than dorohedoro

so yeah, while I didn't care about the story at all, I still really appreciate this manga. Placed in B tier,

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started cyberpunk, have my complaints
decided not to watch the psycho-pass sequels right now and start hellsing ultimate, will watch the sequels later.
next: Hell screen
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Hell Screen

A japanese short story written in 1918, it's good. It's about an artist who gets obsessed in it's own work leading to him making awful things.

I admit it's well written and engaging from start to end, however, it didn't resonate too much with me, it doesn't really seem that there is too much meat to this short story. If anything, the most interesting thing it does is the end (not a spoiler because it's a japanese short story from 1918 you're not reading it anyways), where the guy finishes the hell screen, and well, it turns out it's like really fucking good which leads to everyone kinda forgiving him. That point of how you can be an awful person but be able to create banger art. Which i'm pretty sure was pretty interesting and groundbreaking in 1918, but nowadays, in 2024, there are many other books that explore the same topics and do it better

also, unrelated, but when I was reading the book, I searched some of the names online to see if this was based on a IRL story or if it was purely fiction, and while it is entirerily fiction, I stumbled the entire thing reuplaoded to the "Creepypasta fandom wiki"?, which like, what the fuck, this isn't even horror, yes it's a dark story, but it's not horror, it's not scary.

I'm kinda indeferent torwards this short story, placed in B rank

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i'm still playing cyberpunk and watching hellsing ultimate
nothing else to read
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Hellsing: Ultimate

This is an anime about people beating each other up, and it's one of the better ones.

Hellsing is about vampires and vampire-hunting organizations mixed in with churches and stuff, it's pretty sick, however, as you may expect it's not explored too deeply as the point is the action and gore and fights, something i'm not too into. So kinda the biggest exploration of it is how they adapt guns to be effective against vampires.

This is also a OVA, so it's 10 episodes, but 10 episodes of varying length, being 40+ minutes long, the artstyle is also fairly unique, it has high production value and the character designs are all very recognizable, specially alucard. This high production value really helps the anime, more here than in many other animes. A frenetic anime is going to have more complex set scenes and animation than a more calm anime, so here, the animation works really well with all of the gore and visceral scenes.

The actual plot isn't bad either, as I say it isn't exactly ambitious, the focus of hellsing is not on the plot, but what they have works.

This anime have also some fairly comedic moments, something I didn't expect, but again, it does work because of the juxtaposition

placed in B rank

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next: nothing

still playing cyberpunk 2077
Karmine
Alucard is iconic.
abraker
Watch Spaceballs
Topic Starter
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Watch Spaceballs
I'm really not feeling like spaceballs
AxisPraxisMDS
mmh, Fallout: New vegas including 3 Dlcs
also, dont blame me for its crashes
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Watch Spaceballs
I'm really not feeling like spaceballs
then The Map of Tiny Perfect Things
BluePyTheWDeer_
rate the Geometry Dash Level Editor.
burgernfat
arcane
Topic Starter
Patatitta

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

mmh, Fallout: New vegas including 3 Dlcs
also, dont blame me for its crashes
do you mind if I do fallout 1 and 2 first?, I don't care if you haven't played them I just want to try out those two games, will do new vegas after those two

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Watch Spaceballs
I'm really not feeling like spaceballs
then The Map of Tiny Perfect Things
sure

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

rate the Geometry Dash Level Editor.
this thread doesn't cover things like that


burgernfat wrote:

arcane
league of legends related so denied
Nuuskamuikkunen

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

mmh, Fallout: New vegas including 3 Dlcs
also, dont blame me for its crashes
do you mind if I do fallout 1 and 2 first?, I don't care if you haven't played them I just want to try out those two games, will do new vegas after those two
There's also Fallout 3 that comes right before New Vegas.
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

burgernfat wrote:

arcane
league of legends related so denied
it's pretty good tho
and I don't play legue
AxisPraxisMDS

Patatitta wrote:

[quote="AxisPraxisMDS"]
mmh, Fallout: New vegas including 3 Dlcs
also, dont blame me for its crashes
do you mind if I do fallout 1 and 2 first?, I don't care if you haven't played them I just want to try out those two games, will do new vegas after those two

well, do u want
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AxisPraxisMDS wrote:

mmh, Fallout: New vegas including 3 Dlcs
also, dont blame me for its crashes
do you mind if I do fallout 1 and 2 first?, I don't care if you haven't played them I just want to try out those two games, will do new vegas after those two
There's also Fallout 3 that comes right before New Vegas.
yeah but I'm not very interested in 3 and I know you don't need to play them in order


abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

burgernfat wrote:

arcane
league of legends related so denied
it's pretty good tho
and I don't play legue
still denied
Polyspora
its better to understand the lore if you play in order
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Polyspora wrote:

its better to understand the lore if you play in order
may play depending on how much I enjoy 1 and 2
Ymir

Polyspora wrote:

its better to understand the lore if you play in order
Is it really that important to play 3?
Polyspora

Ymir wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

its better to understand the lore if you play in order
Is it really that important to play 3?
no, its a great game though
Karmine

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

its better to understand the lore if you play in order
may play depending on how much I enjoy 1 and 2
Only played 1 but afaik 2d and 3d games are very different.
Topic Starter
Patatitta

Karmine wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

its better to understand the lore if you play in order
may play depending on how much I enjoy 1 and 2
Only played 1 but afaik 2d and 3d games are very different.
yeah i'm just not interested very much in 3 but idk I guess if I get really into fallout I would play it
Topic Starter
Patatitta
Cyberpunk 2077:

The anime was way better ngl

Cyberpunk is a open world shooter in a cyberpunk setting as the name implies, I would be lying if I said I enjoyed it, I think it's a pretty mediocre and messy game

The plot is about your protagonist accidently getting stuck with a chip in their head that allows her to see the spirit of johnny, a terrorist who lived 50 years ago. However, this is not sustainable as the protagonist is going to die unless they get the chip removed. The whole plot is the protagonist trying to remove the chip.

This by itself is not a bad concept, however it's not explored that much. In fact, most of the cyberpunk nature of the world isn't really explained. The game sells you on this idea of replacing parts of your body with mechanic implants, in fact the whole anime is about this, about the consequences of doing that and the biological limit. There is a lot you can do with this idea, and the game kinda hypes you up into expecting pretty crazy cybernetics. But that is really far from reality

This is really barely touched on the story, in fact, the only real thing that the story really uses is a fucking pdf viewer that everyone in the world has, you can load an usb in your head to see information and also connect to computers via your arm. The actual cybernetics are all very boring, you can't really go to any extremes, you can't just replace your hand with a fucking massive gun for example. The cybernetics in this game are just "you regen hp faster" or "you have increased movement speed after engaging in combat", and that cybernetic limit that the anime revolves around is only a gameplay mechanic, I don't think it's ever mentioned in the plot???, in fact, when you get a cybernetic that is required by the plot, guess what IT DOESN'T EVEN COUNT FOR THE FUCKING LIMIT

but well, you can hack other people's body, that's cool right?. Again, mostly a gameplay thing with very little impact on the story, hacks works as spell basically, you press tab, selet a enemy, and then choose from a menu if you want to apply a status effect or do damage.

You also have that cyberpunk arquitecture with lots of ads in buildings and stuff, but again, it's just something in the backgroud, it has no weight. The story of cyberpunk 2077 is one that really doesn't rely very hard on the setting at all which is surprising for a game called CYBERPUNK

In many ways it feels tone deaf, it feels like it's trying to do this homage to the cyberpunk genre by having a large portion of the night city population be japanese, so you have japanese writing and japanese themed zones, in fact you can get the bike from akira, but this game is nothing like akira. What makes akira akira isn't the bike or the general visuals, it's the story surrounding all of this weird tech and their consequences

in fact, it's so tone deaf that in night city, a dystopical american city, there are fucking PACHINKOS, something that would only make sense if gambling was banned but like what the fuck how would that ever fit into the setting

The game advertises itself as an choice-driven RPG, this is not the case at all. The only real choices you have in the game are just at the end mission and at the end mission of the DLC. And in fact, you often don't have much option in conversations where they give you multiple dialogue options because they're often than not very different at all. It's often like 4 different ways to say yes. There are also timed dialogue options, where you only have a very short span of time to read them and respond. What happens if you just decide not to answer?, nothing really, it either autoplays the choice that will progress the plot or the dialogue would continue as normal. For a game that markets itself as choice driven you kinda do feel a little bit powerless in what you can say.

There are also some dialogue choices that are locked behind skill points in certain skills. This make senses, for example in disco elysium your skill points don't only give you gameplay advantages but they also help you understand the game via it. In many ways, disco elysium is always rolling die to see if any of your skills activate and you get to learn more about a certain thing, maybe opening up new gameplay options. In cyberpunk this isn't really the case, not only because it doesn't matter if you choose that option or not, but because you can always see the option even if it's locked. And by reading what that dialogue option is, you learn about that part of the lore and you get that perspective even if your character shouldn't be able to know. So if an option is like "omg are you the guy that killed this other guy???" and that option is locked because your character shouldn't be able to know that, you, the player do end up learning that since you read the option and you now know that the guy that you're talking to killed the other guy, it's just that you can't get your character to say it

The game has so many gameplay systems and honestly none of them really matter at all. Like, you have like 4 different xp systems, one to unlock skill trees, one to unlock skills in those trees, one dlc one that is a separate skill tree that requires a different method of obtaining, and also "playstyle" specific XP, that gives you advantages in those playstyles, except it really doesn't matter, because when you kill enemies they often drop usbs that give you xp in the other playstyles you're not playing so like lmao. Thing is, none of the skills really impact the gameplay at all, they're not really transforming your playstyle, many of them are just stat buffs, and stat buffs don't matter when the enemies scale to your level, so if you become stronger, your enemies will also become equally as strong which means the gameplay experience at level 1 and max level isn't very drastic.

The game is very bloated in general, there are so many activities that you can do in the map but a lot of them aren't very engaging, the one I find most outrageous is the tarot cards, you just go to a place, scan a grafitti and you get a tarot card added to a menu. These don't really have an use. It feels like they just exist to pad the playtime if you want to do 100% and add more map markers to give the illusion of a city that is alive. In fact, the dlc skill system I mentioned is kinda identical to the graffitis, you go to a place, connect to a terminal, you have a new skill point, and it's just so boring

I get the vision of having A LOT to do in the city, so that you're walking along the road with no specific goal and there are so many things around you that you can get dragged into or engage with. But this isn't really how the game is played, you're not finding the activities naturally, you're opening a map, putting a marker on it and then driving to it. And in that context a lof of the activities feel very repetitive.

In fact, this also clashes with the plot. The whole plot is that you have a bomb in your brain that is about to expldoe and you need to remove it as soon as possible, in fact, during story missions your body will stop responding during scripted segments and it will show you that the protagonist is FUCKED but then the gameplay is totally different. You're killing hundreds of guys and taking billions of bullet without consequences. It's very funny that when it's a scripted segment the protagonist is dying and then you get to shoot guys and then you're in peak physical condition.

Your body is operating fine as long as you're not in the main story, it doesn't feel like you actually have a timer that you're racing against, you're not having to choose and pick what side quests you do to get you the best probabilities to survive, there is no rush or urgency at all. In fact, it's not only that the whole plot stops existing the moment you look away, it's that the game rewards you for doing things that would make no sense if you were actually playing in character, multiple endings of the base game are locked behind doing sidequests which as I said wouldn't make much sense to stop and do if you actually had a ticking bomb in your brain. This is peak ludonarrative dissonance. At least with the DLC it was framed as "this is going to help you remove the chip from your brain"

Bosses feel pretty boring, nothing much to say, in fact in the dlc, phantom liberty, they barely have bosses because I think they realized they're not the best part of the game. Also I find funny that a boss has like a helmet that disperses bullet and makes it really hard to hit them but such technology is not ever mentioned in the story at any other point

I also take issue with this game visuals. It generally doesn't look that striking, the only real segment I went like "woahhhhhhh that's cool" is like the ones where you're in like this digital world with this really weird camera effect, that part I liked, but the rest of the game just looks eh. I get that I was playing with the graphics on low but this is not a resolution problem, this is a general art direction problem.

There is also little to none graphical progression in terms of weapons and cybernetics. Often I would upgrade to a better gun only to find the model to be more rudimentary instead of cooler and more techonological. With the implants, there are characters that just have insane movespeed at times but there isn't really anything in their body that would make you instantly go like "oh this guy can do that"

Talking about the weapons, the gameplay defines that the actual damage and stats are mainly placed on the weapon, so why am I the only one with a good weapon while the other ones are carrying shit guns?, why do their guns instantly turn 20 times better when I pick them up?, I get this from a gameplay perspective but it's still peak ludonarrative dissonance.

About the DLC, probably best part of the game, the last mission was actually good, didn't like how the president of the US was pictured tho, as she was written basically the exact same way that you would write a leader of a corporation or anything, not to mention that she doesn't seem like a politician, and more like a heavily trained solider.


Played in C tier

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haven't seen the movie that abraker requested,

next, fallout 1
Karmine
Wanted to reply to this but too lazy lol, game is good though you should play it more :P
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